Head Gravity Pro club!

[Power Player]

Small but persistent arm issues has got me looking at hybrids more and more. Actually just ordered in some OG Sheep Micro (along with TF Multifeel, X1-Bi and Micronite), plus I have a set of PSGO that has been sitting neglected for years. Not quite sure what combination I'll go with then, but my full poly days are over for a bit. Have a feeling too the GP will actually really suit poly/syn gut or multi.

After hitting with the Auxetic GP today. I am pretty confident syn gut crosses will feel amazing in it. For me it did not feel muted, I could feel the good vibrations to my hand like all the great feeling racquets allow. It's real similar to the prior version to me. I noticed that the power got better once the strings settled in. I string mine at 48#s and since the frame is new I am sure the tension dropped quite a bit, but it still plays great. Sweet spot feels awesome, but it's not a huge sweet spot. I'd say it's medium sized, but when you are hitting it, the ball come out hot. Loving it.

 

[Anton]

Played demo strung with Lynx Tour 17, added rubber band, overgrip and 2 grams total at 3+9.

Super impressed with how well this frame handles the ball anywhere on the court.

Power from mass in a true classic fashion, but strokes are true, with easy depth control, spin or flat. 100” thin beam has tons of margin.

Slices and defense is amazeballs, the loop stiffness with mass makes it easy to direct the ball without popping it up. Like a more controlled RF97 with softer feel.

Volleys are great, 100” of laser beamin’. Not huge pop but very solid, just shoots a stay-low ball to target. Easy peasy.

For serves I found big pace from mass but also big action on the ball to place it. Overall, the best I ever served.

Bottom line - I’m in! This is just better rounded and forgiving than my 21VC95.

 

[Power Player]

Played demo strung with Lynx Tour 17, added rubber band, overgrip and 2 grams total at 3+9.

Super impressed with how well this frame handles the ball anywhere on the court.

Power from mass in a true classic fashion, but strokes are true, with easy depth control, spin or flat. 100” thin beam has tons of margin.

Slices and defense is amazeballs, the loop stiffness with mass makes it easy to direct the ball without popping it up. Like a more controlled RF97 with softer feel.

Volleys are great, 100” of laser beamin’. Not huge pop but very solid, just shoots a stay-low ball to target. Easy peasy.

For serves I found big pace from mass but also big action on the ball to place it. Overall, the best I ever served.

Bottom line - I’m in! This is just better rounded and forgiving than my 21VC95.

Yep. Its a great frame since it feels good enough to make me not want to use a PT 2.0/Prestige or similar, yet is much more forgiving.

Still is not a frame for someone who hasn't developed their technique I would say, because it will let you know when you are doing something wrong and not forgive that. But very quickly after dumping balls into the net when I was warming up, I realized what I was not doing and fixed it right there. So it is like a coach in that regard.

That said, I am not sure if you had this sensation, but once everything is grooving it feels like you can just hit lasers and not miss. Kind of like a combo in a video game where the more you hit in a row, the better you get. It's very addictive in that regard. The sweetspot has great pocketing and feel plus it's a modern frame that actually lets some vibrations into the hand instead of muting everything. It's a miracle..lol.

Serves are definitely awesome, a highlight really. I think the only "weakness" of the frame is people may expect this massive forgiving sweetspot that makes it easy to use, but the frame still demands proper footwork/technique. Which is fine with me.

 

[Anton]

Yep. Its a great frame since it feels good enough to make me not want to use a PT 2.0/Prestige or similar, yet is much more forgiving.

Still is not a frame for someone who hasn't developed their technique I would say, because it will let you know when you are doing something wrong and not forgive that. But very quickly after dumping balls into the net when I was warming up, I realized what I was not doing and fixed it right there. So it is like a coach in that regard.

That said, I am not sure if you had this sensation, but once everything is grooving it feels like you can just hit lasers and not miss. Kind of like a combo in a video game where the more you hit in a row, the better you get. It's very addictive in that regard. The sweetspot has great pocketing and feel plus it's a modern frame that actually lets some vibrations into the hand instead of muting everything. It's a miracle..lol.

Serves are definitely awesome, a highlight really. I think the only "weakness" of the frame is people may expect this massive forgiving sweetspot that makes it easy to use, but the frame still demands proper footwork/technique. Which is fine with me.

Yes, this is definitely not a I-need-racket-to-do-more frame. This is a frame for someone that is comfortable with converting weight into momentum and wants a rock-solid, comfortable, do-all tool.

I’m usually an aggressive baseliner apprehensive about coming in, but with this in hand I felt confident throwing in volleys off a serve or a deep slice if I felt I was getting high balls back.

Loved it for doubles.

 

[ngoster]

Agreed with everyone. This is a solid all around frame. The only deficiency that I experienced with this frame is with defensive volleys against an overhead. It has too much pop so from a low position blocking up the balls fly long.

 

[Ryebread]

@Anton agree with all that jazz!

in doubles, those times when you have to throw the stick up in distress. well, the gp somehow saves my life AND the point!
amazing at net

 

[pico]

Do you guys mostly lead up the handle to make it more headlight?

 

[naturalexponent]

Co-signing the prevalent sentiment here that the GP feels like a wall at net.

 

[Anton]

Do you guys mostly lead up the handle to make it more headlight?

My TW demo felt plenty headlight with just an over grip.

With 2g added at 3+9 balance was still good for me.

 

[Ryebread]

Do you guys mostly lead up the handle to make it more headlight?

I would, but the static weight is so high, I haven't tried to. And I'm doing ok as is!
it was a leap for me, going from 330 to 340 static, with this frame, from vcore 95

 

[johnmccabe]

The only deficiency that I experienced with this frame is with defensive volleys against an overhead.

No racquet is going to really save a point in this situation.

 

[Power Player]

Do you guys mostly lead up the handle to make it more headlight?

I love it in stock form personally. Not sure I’d change anything. One thing I’d say is I had a leather grip on the prior version and it really is not needed. The bevel feel on this frame even with the synthetic grip is pretty sharp. Thats just my opinion, I am sure others are using leather and loving it. Just something to keep in mind.

 

[Ryebread]

Cheers to Head
I purchased two used GP from this forum
One shipped to me from Japan. The other somewhere in the states.
and one new one

All three g3 fwiw

#1 new, 11.10oz / 32cm
#2 used, 11.08 / 31.75
#3 used, 11.08 / 31.80

 

[ngoster]

No racquet is going to really save a point in this situation.

That night, my CX 200 Tour did. Maybe it was the racquet and strings combo but block backs were landing in. Saved and won us a few games.

 

[ngoster]

Do you guys mostly lead up the handle to make it more headlight?

Yes. Added a TW leather grip and 6g of lead strip under the trap door. It moved the BP from 32.9cm to 31.5cm which made it much quicker and easier to swing.

 

[Ryebread]

post #37 and 39 in this thread, I talk about strings a lot
I'm a stringer guys
tourna 700es machine

cheers

 

[johnmccabe]

That night, my CX 200 Tour did. Maybe it was the racquet and strings combo but block backs were landing in. Saved and won us a few games.

lol are you Brett? I hit a heavy bounce overhead and got blocked back by a cx200 last week, hahaha

 

[pico]

That night, my CX 200 Tour did. Maybe it was the racquet and strings combo but block backs were landing in. Saved and won us a few games.

how is your CX 200 Tour customised?

 

[mirceam]

Can you compare GP 2021 with PA VS ?

I have my PA VS upgraded with lead at 12 and the SW around 325-327 strung, depending on the string. I use Firestorm 1.25 on two rackets and RPM 1.30 on another two . 2 of them had same weight but a SW of 315 strung and another 2 with 325 and 327.

 

[ngoster]

how is your CX 200 Tour customised?

I have a couple of 16M's and 1 18M. My gamer (16M) is completely stock. I may have messed up my other 16M. The BP felt a little different so I tried adding 3g's of lead strip under the trap door but I suspect that the strip somehow slipped passed the staples and is on one of the sides where the throat meets the hoop (At least, that's where I feel more weight.). I don't know how to extract it so the 18M is now my backup and sometimes my warmup.

 

[ngoster]

lol are you Brett? I hit a heavy bounce overhead and got blocked back by a cx200 last week, hahaha

No. That's just another lucky SOB. Mine were pretty spectacular though (At least, I thought so.). A couple went from a defensive block to an offensive lob that landed inches from the BL.

ps
My block backs were not taken on the bounce. I was standing in the service box and caught both shots in the air haha.

 

[pico]

I have a couple of 16M's and 1 18M. My gamer (16M) is completely stock. I may have messed up my other 16M. The BP felt a little different so I tried adding 3g's of lead strip under the trap door but I suspect that the strip somehow slipped passed the staples and is on one of the sides where the throat meets the hoop (At least, that's where I feel more weight.). I don't know how to extract it so the 18M is now my backup and sometimes my warmup.

How does the 16M compare to the 18M?

 

[johnmccabe]

Bought a set of 3 gp with leather grips from the bay. Will start to sell my ezone 98 and ats tour 100p. I'm probably done messing around with racquets for a while.

 

[ngoster]

How does the 16M compare to the 18M?

I love both but prefer the 16M. While I fantasize about playing well all the time with the 18M, the 16M's more open, but still tight, string pattern is more forgiving. This also allows me to have more versatility with my shots. I have a flat stroke but can still vary the amount of spin and launch angle. Serves are more versatile as well. I have a much easier time hitting them all...flat, kick and slice. The 18M is pretty much flat all the time. I can do the other things also but produce less action. I can hit piercing shots through the court with both but the 18M shots may be marginally faster. Both are quick and fantastic at the net. What really stands out are defensive volleys that pop up and over the opposing net guys and land in. I had so many of them tonight! Haha.

The 18M feels like it has a smaller sweetspot and is more controlled but not so much from the 16M that makes it difficult to adjust from one to the other. It compliments the 16M well as a backup. When I warm up with the 18M and then switch to the 16M, hitting the ball feels easier. However, the reverse is true also. If my strokes get a little pushy with the 16M, making control challenging, switching to the 18M helps me regain some of that control.

At $100 each right now, the rackaholic in me is fighting the urge to buy more everyday.

 

[ngoster]

Bought a set of 3 gp with leather grips from the bay. Will start to sell my ezone 98 and ats tour 100p. I'm probably done messing around with racquets for a while.

That's what I said also when I gelled with the CX 200 Tour 16M but, damnit, every time I see an interesting review on something else then it shows up on sale somewhere, it's too hard to resist. Since the CX 200 Tour 16M, I've picked up a third 16M, 2 18M's, a Prince Phantom 93P and Pro 100 18M's, a Tecnifibre TF40 315, a Wilson Shift 315 and, lastly, a GP...haha.

 

[Power Player]

I had the cx200 tour 16 and switched to the prior gravity pro from it. Lol. More power and feel for me with with the gravity and I didn’t need to mod it like the dunlop.

 

[Ross K]

@Power Player and others...

Decided to definitely do a poly/ OGSM hybrid... Q. Any thoughts or preferences around Poly Mains/OGSM Crosses tension differentials? Also, what gauges for the Poly/OGSM would you opt for in the GP?

Thanks for any assistance.

 

[Power Player]

@Power Player and others...

Decided to definitely do a poly/ OGSM hybrid... Q. Any thoughts or preferences around Poly Mains/OGSM Crosses tension differentials? Also, what gauges for the Poly/OGSM would you opt for in the GP?

Thanks for any assistance.

I think you can go higher on the crosses with this head shape. So maybe 48/51 poly/syn?

 

[pico]

Gravity Pro 2018 vs Prestige Pro 2021 comparisons?

 

[Ryebread]

second restring for me with
18 gauge ytex Square X Sharp
52/50
love it
soft co poly, with incredibly sharp edges, on a square string.
so much bite/spin/control/&/feel!

those who have never heard of ytex,
made in germany
very good quality strings
just don't have the name yet

 

[pico]

second restring for me with
18 gauge ytex Square X Sharp
52/50
love it
soft co poly, with incredibly sharp edges, on a square string.
so much bite/spin/control/&/feel!

those who have never heard of ytex,
made in germany
very good quality strings
just don't have the name yet

I always wanted to try it but man are they expensive!

 

[johnmccabe]

second restring for me with
18 gauge ytex Square X Sharp
52/50
love it
soft co poly, with incredibly sharp edges, on a square string.
so much bite/spin/control/&/feel!

those who have never heard of ytex,
made in germany
very good quality strings
just don't have the name yet

is it hard to weave the cross through? I like sharp edges square mains just wish I don't have to string it myself.

 

[Ryebread]

is it hard to weave the cross through? I like sharp edges square mains just wish I don't have to string it myself.

it prob takes me an extra 2-3 mins overall
not a big deal, well worth it!

I always wanted to try it but man are they expensive!

I sent you a pm!

 

[Ross K]

I think you can go higher on the crosses with this head shape. So maybe 48/51 poly/syn?

Cheers PP. Hybrids like this and 18x20 patterns aren't all that familiar to me.

second restring for me with
18 gauge ytex Square X Sharp
52/50
love it
soft co poly, with incredibly sharp edges, on a square string.
so much bite/spin/control/&/feel!

those who have never heard of ytex,
made in germany
very good quality strings
just don't have the name yet

Hmm. Interesting re the Square X Sharp. I may well have to look into that one... BTW last year I ended up investigating, and rather liking, the reg. YT ProTour. Wonder how the latter would suit the GP as well?..

 

[Power Player]

Gravity Pro rules. God I love this thing. Not sure there is really anything on the market like it. I'd say the closest frame to it is possibly the 18x20 Solinco Whiteout or the PK Q+ series, but neither bring the sensational feel and pocketing of this racquet.

 

[pico]

Gravity Pro rules. God I love this thing. Not sure there is really anything on the market like it. I'd say the closest frame to it is possibly the 18x20 Solinco Whiteout or the PK Q+ series, but neither bring the sensational feel and pocketing of this racquet.

Used mine yesterday at my lowest tension ever - 45lbs. Felt awesome too! I was expecting more free power at this tension. Strung it with BHS7T 1.25mm. The thud on impact was thunderous!

 

[Power Player]

Used mine yesterday at my lowest tension ever - 45lbs. Felt awesome too! I was expecting more free power at this tension. Strung it with BHS7T 1.25mm. The thud on impact was thunderous!

Its not a free power frame but it lets me generate a lot of controlled and big power with it. S7T is an amazing string for it, probably my favorite.

 

[TwinCinema]

The thud on impact was thunderous!

This. Someone I play with every week has a GP and every groundstroke has this massive THWACK and it’s even got Hyper G in it, which isn’t a particularly thwacky string. I wish it had a lower static weight so I could use it easier. The Blade 98 is fantastic for me but I do feel like it’s still the middle sibling when it’s next to the alpha dog GP.

 

[Anton]

Got my new Gravity Pro...weight/blance is just not the same as TW demo unfortunately, seems to be missing mass somewhere in the upper handle, will have to spend some time to bring this home. Should have taken down all specs from the demo.

Also demo strings (HEAD Hawk Tour 17?) were much better than RS Lyon 17 I strung it up it with. RS Lyon went from slightly stiff playing off the stringer to hard to control launcher within 2 hours of play

Thankfully flex and general impact dynamic is just like it was on demo.

 

[pico]

Btw, the GPro I am using is still my 2019 one.

 

[LordRaceR]

For an almost year now, didn’t manage to find 2023 Pro to test. Local distributor doesn’t have Pro for a demo, and don’t plan to have it….

Between futures kids, find only one that is using 2023 Gravity but it is Tour…

TW Europe has nice discount at the moment, and today almost pressed “buy” for two… but I am holding back, as I didn’t try them and what if I like them less than my 2021 Pros…

Sorry, just a rant...

 

[Power Player]

For an almost year now, didn’t manage to find 2023 Pro to test. Local distributor doesn’t have Pro for a demo, and don’t plan to have it….

Between futures kids, find only one that is using 2023 Gravity but it is Tour…

TW Europe has nice discount at the moment, and today almost pressed “buy” for two… but I am holding back, as I didn’t try them and what if I like them less than my 2021 Pros…

Sorry, just a rant...

They are very very similar to the 2021 for me. I like the new version better but some like the prior version a little more. They are real similar though so I suspect you will be fine with it.

I grabbed a discounted Tour from Europe and it should show up soon as it’s in customs now. Ill try and get the weight similar to my pro and see how it compares .

 

[pico]

One thing I am noticing with my 2018 GPro is that it is quite dead on the top and sides. Everytime I try to put lead on, it feels heavier to swing.

 

[Ryebread]

They are very very similar to the 2021 for me. I like the new version better but some like the prior version a little more. They are real similar though so I suspect you will be fine with it.

I grabbed a discounted Tour from Europe and it should show up soon as it’s in customs now. Ill try and get the weight similar to my pro and see how it compares .

in the racquet comparison app, the auxetic isn't listed, is this weird?

Racquet Comparison Tool

also been meaning to ask you what your string setup is with the GPA?

 

[Power Player]

in the racquet comparison app, the auxetic isn't listed, is this weird?

Racquet Comparison Tool

also been meaning to ask you what your string setup is with the GPA?

I have durafluxx in there now. It plays great. But I love silver 7 tour in the prior version and will try that next.

 

[cuonglaiphoto]

They are very very similar to the 2021 for me. I like the new version better but some like the prior version a little more. They are real similar though so I suspect you will be fine with it.

I grabbed a discounted Tour from Europe and it should show up soon as it’s in customs now. Ill try and get the weight similar to my pro and see how it compares .

Hi PP,
I was look at the old thread of the Tfight 315 LTD and I've seen lots of your thoughts and loves about that frame. How do you compare the 315LTD leaded 5g at 12 to the Auxetic GP?

 

[Power Player]

Hi PP,
I was look at the old thread of the Tfight 315 LTD and I've seen lots of your thoughts and loves about that frame. How do you compare the 315LTD leaded 5g at 12 to the Auxetic GP?

Awesome, I still have my 315. Its a great frame. I'd say the Gravity Pro is easier to use and it plays at a lighter weight than the 315, since you need that lead on it and a counterbalance in the handle.

Feel wise they are both fantastic, I think the 315 has a little more rubbery feel since it is so soft, but you can't go wrong there with either.

 

[cuonglaiphoto]

Awesome, I still have my 315. Its a great frame. I'd say the Gravity Pro is easier to use and it plays at a lighter weight than the 315, since you need that lead on it and a counterbalance in the handle.

Feel wise they are both fantastic, I think the 315 has a little more rubbery feel since it is so soft, but you can't go wrong there with either.

I appreciate that PP. I somehow think that the 315LTD plays easier with lower swingweight than the GP. With 5g of lead at 12, the sw of the 315LTD is still well under 330 comparing to the GP.

 

[Power Player]

I appreciate that PP. I somehow think that the 315LTD plays easier with lower swingweight than the GP. With 5g of lead at 12, the sw of the 315LTD is still well under 330 comparing to the GP.

Yeah I think it really matters what your GP is specced at and what your 315 has. My gravity is 297 SW unstrung, so that works great. I think my 315 was like 277 unstrung so it took a lot to get boom out of it. That said. I am going to set mine up again at some point and try and see what I can get.

 

[pico]

Can anyone who has played a CX 200 Tour and Gpro care to compare pls?