Boredsurfer
Semi-Pro
I have a Gravity Pro with Head Leather grip and PSG @ 58. Sublime feel and forgiveness. I have never hit heavier serves and my D on this bat is insane. HOWEVER..... the head shape is kinda doing me in on groundies..... I hit near the bottom of the hoop a lot apparently and I am a little shankapotamus with the PRO 
I alternate lot's of rackets so that is probably the culprit. Having said that, I am considering the Head Graphene 360+ Prestige MP as the next best thing..... can anyone here compare?
I alternate lot's of rackets so that is probably the culprit. Having said that, I am considering the Head Graphene 360+ Prestige MP as the next best thing..... can anyone here compare?
Villain
Professional
I’ve played quite a bit with both and like them all a lot. I would test the Speed Pro too. Not quite as flexy but still great feel with more power than the PMP and a similar but larger head shape.I have a Gravity Pro with Head Leather grip and PSG @ 58. Sublime feel and forgiveness. I have never hit heavier serves and my D on this bat is insane. HOWEVER..... the head shape is kinda doing me in on groundies..... I hit near the bottom of the hoop a lot apparently and I am a little shankapotamus with the PRO
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
I'm going to go from memory, but I have posted the exact details in this thread somewhere before.
Firstly, I have 2 Gravity Pros, and even though they came in at the same static weight and balance, they felt like they had a different weight distribution. When I swung them without strings (or that cardboard advertising thing), one felt like it had more weight in the tip then the other (but I don't have a SW machine).
Therefore, they have slightly different weights added, but both are now the same static weight and balance when strung... and feel very similar to swing. I haven't measured the SW, but I can play with them both interchangeably without a problem or any feel differences (so I'm happy).
The first GP (the one with less weight in the tip), I added 1g at 3,9, and 12 o'clock, and 0.5g at 2,4,8, and 10 o'clock. Then, I added 5-6g at 7" above the butt cap (I use two small coins, one on each wide bevel of the handle - so it's usually 5.5g but can vary a little as the coins vary a bit), 2 overgrips ( which is about 10g - the first with no overlap, and the second as usual), and about 3g of Tungsten Putty inside the butt cap. I then put on a No.64 rubber band as a dampener. That made the racquet 360g and 315mm balance strung (string dependent). I use thinner gauge strings (1.15-1.20mm for both Mains and Crosses).
The second GP, I did everything the same, except I didn't add any weight to 12 o'clock. This racquet is also 360g and 315mm strung (again string dependent).
Hope that helps
Junioradae
New User
Most definitely.thanks
pico
Hall of Fame
I have both as well. Did you customise your MP? Do you use the same string setup on both?
Ordered four Gravity Pro on the site-wide sale off TWE last week and should be getting them tomorrow which I'm really excited about.
I demoed my friends GP's and really liked them, coming from 2015 Blade 20x18 at 335 gram static weight 32.5 balance I actually found Gravity Pro to be way more manouverable and it felt much lighter than my blades even though the ones I tried probably has a static weight of 340, I guess it comes down to a combination of swing weight, balance, beam width and mass distribution.
I hear a lot of people saying that GP is too heavy and have not understood where that is coming from really, other than if you got unlucky with overspecced frame.
Thinking about trying the frame with Head Lynx Tour 1.25, Alu Power 1.25 (which is my current string), Head Lynx 1.25 and might also try a hybrid, all poly at 21 KG. Do anyone have other string recommendations?
I demoed my friends GP's and really liked them, coming from 2015 Blade 20x18 at 335 gram static weight 32.5 balance I actually found Gravity Pro to be way more manouverable and it felt much lighter than my blades even though the ones I tried probably has a static weight of 340, I guess it comes down to a combination of swing weight, balance, beam width and mass distribution.
I hear a lot of people saying that GP is too heavy and have not understood where that is coming from really, other than if you got unlucky with overspecced frame.
Thinking about trying the frame with Head Lynx Tour 1.25, Alu Power 1.25 (which is my current string), Head Lynx 1.25 and might also try a hybrid, all poly at 21 KG. Do anyone have other string recommendations?
Does anyone find any problems with slice with thinner strings? I've switched down to 1.20 YPTP and YPTS in a hybrid and I'm finding it considerably more "launchy" than the same strings, at the same tension, in 1.25.
As far as I'm aware, I've not changed anything technique wise. Control on everything else seems fine.
As far as I'm aware, I've not changed anything technique wise. Control on everything else seems fine.
smithie
Professional
Did you get the TW matching service? Peoples complaints about the manoeuvrability stems from SW's exceeding the advertised specs.
I use the Tour variant (I preferred it over the Pro) and have used Head Lynx, Lux Element, Lux Alu Power and Solinco Hyper-G and all work really well so I assume the racket is not string sensitive (and by extension the same should be true for the Pro). One word of warning is that Head Lynx Tour is notably heavily than other 1.25 mm strings, so if your Pro's are already at your upper SW limit, this may push it over the edge.
Do you get the same behavior with other frames? 1.20 strings to my experience can be quite irratic.
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I did not get the matching service as I think that is not offered from the European branch, my thinking on this point is that I ordered four racquets and that should mean that I theoretically should get at least one racquet that are close to spec and in worst case return three. I ordered them unstrung so that I will be able to return.
Related to the strings, I'm not a big fan of Hyper g, it might be the color of the string that I dislike, but the others ones sounds great. To my understanding regarding weight of HLT 1.25 I heard it is on-par with Alu Power 1.25 but that might not be correct? (19-20 gram)
My first time stringing with 1.20. I've got some 1.25 around, so I'll string that at the same tensions and compare side to side.
I've got an MP as well, but I string that with thicker gauge multi. My slice is fine with that
smithie
Professional
TWE do offer a matching service for a small fee (for grabbing the specs of 6 rackets - additional cost thereafter if you want them to measure more) but you need to e-mail/phone them either pre- or immediately post-purchase as it isn't actively advertised. However, I agree that you should hopefully find at least one stick with good specs/easily matchalbe (if that's even a word)!
Tbh I'm also not a fan of the Hyper-G colour but in the new paint job (assuming you have bought the 2021 model) it looks really good (especially on the yellow/green side!).
Regarding HLT - I've personally not used it but there is a thread about it here: Head Lynx Tour - Official Thread | Talk Tennis (tennis-warehouse.com) and many people have noted on how heavy it is (in fact this is the reason I haven't tried it yet). However, it might be worth posing that question in there as someone will have used both Alu Power and Lynx Tour, and will be able to give a fair comparison (rather than my anecdotal shenanigans).
Ah! Thanks for informing, its a shame they dont advertise it nor internalize it within the PDP and check-out process like some other retailers, I would've surely pounced on it if I knew. I'll get an idea of the specs from weighing and checking balance of the unstrung frames but since it will include handle plastic, factory strings and head card I'm not sure how to assess swing weight or weight distribution, I assume that it would show in balance if its very off.
Yeah, I got the 2021 version so it might actually make sense esthetically.
I read now there was one poster who said they were approx same weight, albeit HLT seems to be a bit larger gauge than other 1.25s.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
No. I string my GP with 1.15mm and 1.18mm polys in the Mains and both 1.20mm and 1.25mm strings in the Crosses, and there has been no problem with slice of any kind from either the BH or FH side.
smithie
Professional
You can measure SW at home following this method - Do-It-Yourself Swingweight (tennis-warehouse.com) or by downloading an App called 'SwingTool'. Personally, I prefer the app as its a little less fuss! I would think all the strings, card etc will add about 30 points total to SW so that should give you a rough idea of what the unstrung SW is. To measure balance there is a section covering that at the end of the above article but I should have linked to the specfic section here: Do-It-Yourself Swingweight (tennis-warehouse.com). At home I tend to just hand my racket off the end of the table and measure the distance between the butt cap and the table edge. Hope that helps!
Must just be something to do with me.
The other variable at play here is that when I've used that combination in the past I've put the YPTS in the mains. I thought I'd have a try with it in the crosses this time though.
I strung my other Pro yesterday with YPTP 1.25 in the mains and 1.20 in the crosses. Slice was much more predictable.
I also had a bit of a mess around. I needed to replace the grommets in one of my Pros for the first time. I've got a couple of old Yonex RDX 500's knocking around in which the throat pieces have disintegrated. I decided to chop around on the piece from the Gravity and reuse it (8 hole throat piece, rather than 6). It actually seems to have worked pretty well. I restrung it with the problematic 1.20 YPTP/YPTS combo. Same tension. Slice was fine with it.
Thank you! I usually measure balance on the the table which works well, however I haven't gotten around trying the DIY swing weight measurement but will try! I guess 30 points should be about right, estimating that head card weighs about 15 gram and Head Velocity factory string about the same...
Can you do a comparison of the GP and 2015 Blade 18x20?
Which one have more power? More flexible?
I haven't tried any other iteration than 2015 18x20, and mine aren't exactly stock, high level stats are 335 static weight, 345-350 swing weight and 32.5 balance. On paper they are quite similar though, other than beam width.
I feel they have about the same power levels, even though my Blades are on the higher end of the swing weight spectrum, this is countered by Gravity Pro being faster in the air, not sure about the specs of the ones that I have tested though.
Gravity Pro feels much more flexible, and most likely the thin beam is influencing this together with the fact that it has two points less RA unstrung. Finally, since Gravity is less head heavy in balance, it doesn't need as much weight in the handle as Blades which I really like. I have about 10-12 gram + leather on my Blades to retain 32.5 balance.
Interesting that you say they have the same power level when the BP has thinner beam and more flexible as you say. I have the GP and it is great but sometimes I would like some more "free power" on the forehand side so I was looking at the 2015 Blade 18x20.
Yeah, but on spec Gravity Pro has more static weight, swing weight and a larger head. According to Tennis warehouse racquet comparision tool both have 42%, not sure how that is derived.
pico
Hall of Fame
There is something magical abt the balance and feel of the Gravity Pro. I have mine with a Gamma leather grip and overgrip and 1g of lead at 3, 9 and 12. I string with BHS7T 1.25mm at 55lbs though I am going to experiment with Signum Hextreme 1.20mm on cross today. The bh slice is one of my main strokes and the Gravity lets me hit this the best.
Got the four frames today, did some measuring and chose two of them, no factory strings so could 't measure swing weight, haven't found any DIY method for that, but 313 & 314 in static weight, 31.5 balance, when I tried the swing weight DIY directly on the grommit they got same or very similar time for 10 swings, I thought that should indicate similar SW albeit I'm not sure.
Now I just have to find someone to string them that doesn't have a full weeks queue.
Now I just have to find someone to string them that doesn't have a full weeks queue.
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Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Where do you live?
A Swedish online retailer named Tengo still offers it in L2 and L3, if you are based in Europe I would contact them.
smithie
Professional
In case you missed my reply in the other thread.
If you can handle the weight then absolutely. I use the Tour (and demoed the Pro) and IMO my OHBH has never been better
And if you need a larger size, you can always buy and swap pallets.
I couldnt handle it on my ohbh. Prefer the blade 98
Dbrizz
Rookie
Michigan, USA
Dbrizz
Rookie
In US
I guess you already know, but many OHBH players lean towards smaller head sizes.
Classic-TXP-IG MID
Hall of Fame
Is there any chance you can get the retailer to check the static weight and balance before you purchase? Otherwise pay for the TW matching service. I wish I knew that before I purchased my last frames.
Dbrizz
Rookie
So you just purchase 3 for example and then call them after you order or is there like a up charge or something at checkout? For matching service.
Also are people liking the new colors vs original? I’m debating which one to go with
You can also get this service if you're buying only one racquet. Basically, TW charges you for two racquets and then adds the matching service. You get specs on six racquets (chosen randomly, I think) and you make a selection. Then they hold that racquet, cancel the purchase for two racquets and charge you for the single racquet you selected.
Dbrizz
Rookie
or they can try and match 3 as close as possible right if I wanted?
Two hours in, one without leather grip and one with. There is something that I'm not gelling with even though it is too early to say, I might have to eat my own words related to weight. I find it good allround, very manouverable, great on serves and volley. I guess what I'm missing is some whipiness that is more present in my Blades, my amateur theory would be that much weight on my Blades is added to the buttcap whilst the overall static weight is distributed evenly through the GP, add to that high stock swing weight and bigger frame.
I will most likely experiment with removing some of the leather grip, and if that doesn't seem better replace it with synthethic and add some grams to buttcap, together with testing some other string options than HLT 1.25....
GPro weighs more than the stock blade...not sure if you're playing with the Blade Pros...
Not sure. I've never asked for that. Though I can't imagine they wouldn't do that for you...probably means you provide a spec request and then they find others that are close.
Dbrizz
Rookie
You play with a 2HB or 1HB?
Sorry, didn't mention it in that specific post. It's 2015 Blades, they weigh about 335 with some tailweight, but I just weighed my GPro and they weigh 340, so it might actually be those five gram that makes a lot of difference.
I play 2HBH, no issues with that, actually much better than my blade.
Sorry for rambling on, but I figure it can be helpful to someone down the line.
After removing leather grip and adding Syn Yonex Tour Grip and Yonex Super Grap, it is now weighed at 332 gram, 32.5 balance, and feels much better, might add two or three grams of putty in buttcap. Will try the stick tonight again.
I saw some comment previously about experiences with leather grip, and I would say from my side I would prefer it, but the sheer weight is too much for me.
An additonal reflection related to the weight and balance is that I demoed this stick with a hybrid setup, and that might be very much the root of the issue since mine are now strung up with Head Lynx Tour which makes the stick much more (head) heavy. Unfortunately I'm neither a fan of 1.20 string nor hybrid setup but might opt for a lighter 1.25 string.
After removing leather grip and adding Syn Yonex Tour Grip and Yonex Super Grap, it is now weighed at 332 gram, 32.5 balance, and feels much better, might add two or three grams of putty in buttcap. Will try the stick tonight again.
I saw some comment previously about experiences with leather grip, and I would say from my side I would prefer it, but the sheer weight is too much for me.
An additonal reflection related to the weight and balance is that I demoed this stick with a hybrid setup, and that might be very much the root of the issue since mine are now strung up with Head Lynx Tour which makes the stick much more (head) heavy. Unfortunately I'm neither a fan of 1.20 string nor hybrid setup but might opt for a lighter 1.25 string.
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Dbrizz
Rookie
I use a blade too and have a 2HB so interested in your testing. I’m happy with my blade but always looking to test stuff.
Curtennis
Hall of Fame
I’ve owned both. I find the PP does move a bit easier and cuts through the air better. Feels less heavy upon swinging. Who knows what my racquets actual specs were. I just found that the gravity gave me more consistency and more power. Both likely due to larger head size, greater sweet spot.
I sold the PP and traded it for another Gravity.
It’s a fine frame but I just didn’t see the need to force myself to adjust to a 95.
Hulger
Semi-Pro
As Zverev is playing solid, I took the GPro to the court -
What an incredible FEEL this thing has!!! Flat serve was a bomb. However wasn’t too excited about the maneuverability, but then decided to shave off 4 g from the bumper; should be around 320 SW now.
Feels like a different animal now in hands. Eager to see though if the stability/power is lost on court.
Has anyone else tried to decrease the weight from the hoop?
What an incredible FEEL this thing has!!! Flat serve was a bomb. However wasn’t too excited about the maneuverability, but then decided to shave off 4 g from the bumper; should be around 320 SW now.
Feels like a different animal now in hands. Eager to see though if the stability/power is lost on court.
Has anyone else tried to decrease the weight from the hoop?
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