Head Gravity Tour w/modifications vs. Pro

[CosmosMpower]

Thinking about trying a Head Gravity, debating between the Pro or buying a Tour and weighting it up by adding a leather grip and some weight in the handle to make it around 8 points head light.

Things I like about the Tour: Swing weight range is perfect for me at mid 320's, beam is slightly thicker than Pro (bit more free power?), the only main downside is that it's only 4pts HL strung which is way too head heavy for my taste.

I love playing 335-345 gram (with strings, dampener, overgrip) 18x20 control frames. For reference I am a big fan of the G360+ Prestige MP, Blade V8 18x20 (modified with weight in the handle). Was not a fan of the Speed Pro, Radical Pro etc.

 

[t_pac]

I have my Gravity Tour weighted up this way. So far I've been happy with the SW where it is but also prefer something in the 8pt HL range so added 8g under the butt cap to get to 7pt, then with a tourna overgrip that gets me up to 8pts HL.

Plays great, as you say there is a bit more free power than the Pro and it's much easier to swing, but still plenty stable enough.

 

[ryushen21]

I just got my GPro yesterday and strung with overgrip it's right at 336g. It could be a little more HL but it swings really nice as it is. The biggest difference between the Pro and the Tour is going to be the beam width. I wouldn't expect that you will get the same feel out of the Tour that you would out of the Pro.

 

[Pp3355]

Thinking about trying a Head Gravity, debating between the Pro or buying a Tour and weighting it up by adding a leather grip and some weight in the handle to make it around 8 points head light.

Things I like about the Tour: Swing weight range is perfect for me at mid 320's, beam is slightly thicker than Pro (bit more free power?), the only main downside is that it's only 4pts HL strung which is way too head heavy for my taste.

I love playing 335-345 gram (with strings, dampener, overgrip) 18x20 control frames. For reference I am a big fan of the G360+ Prestige MP, Blade V8 18x20 (modified with weight in the handle). Was not a fan of the Speed Pro, Radical Pro etc.

Buy tour and tune for mgri

 

[t_pac]

Getting the GTour to 8pts HL gives an mgr/i of 20.74 which is fine. Getting it to 21 will just require adding a bunch of pointless lead and won't make any tangible difference.

In terms of feel, the Pro is a bit better but the Tour isn't that far off.

 

[Pp3355]

Getting the GTour to 8pts HL gives an mgr/i of 20.74 which is fine. Getting it to 21 will just require adding a bunch of pointless lead and won't make any tangible difference.

In terms of feel, the Pro is a bit better but the Tour isn't that far off.

Sure you can feel .3 points of mgri

Really it depends on your height

If you are over 6ft then mgri of 20.8ish is optimum. At 5ft 11 it's 21

 

[t_pac]

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[CosmosMpower]

I just got my GPro yesterday and strung with overgrip it's right at 336g. It could be a little more HL but it swings really nice as it is. The biggest difference between the Pro and the Tour is going to be the beam width. I wouldn't expect that you will get the same feel out of the Tour that you would out of the Pro.

Meaning the thinner Pro will be a bit more flexible and softer feeling?

 

[CosmosMpower]

Buy tour and tune for mgri

What is MGRI and why does it need to change based on your height? Never heard of this stat

 

[ryushen21]

Meaning the thinner Pro will be a bit more flexible and softer feeling?

There's some magic in that 20mm beam for sure. Buttery and plush even with full poly.

 

[CosmosMpower]

There's some magic in that 20mm beam for sure. Buttery and plush even with full poly.

I'm tempted to go with the pro but worried I'll get one over spec on static weight and too head heavy then if I have to add a leather grip to get it more head light it will be 350+ grams again and a sledge hammer.

 

[ryushen21]

I'm tempted to go with the pro but worried I'll get one over spec on static weight and too head heavy then if I have to add a leather grip to get it more head light it will be 350+ grams again and a sledge hammer.

If you aren't dead set on leather, try a thin synthetic grip. Wilson Feather Thin is my preferred but there are none anywhere at the moment. Babolat Syntec Team is also good.

 

[Deleted member 775108]

Thinking about trying a Head Gravity, debating between the Pro or buying a Tour and weighting it up by adding a leather grip and some weight in the handle to make it around 8 points head light.

Things I like about the Tour: Swing weight range is perfect for me at mid 320's, beam is slightly thicker than Pro (bit more free power?), the only main downside is that it's only 4pts HL strung which is way too head heavy for my taste.

I love playing 335-345 gram (with strings, dampener, overgrip) 18x20 control frames. For reference I am a big fan of the G360+ Prestige MP, Blade V8 18x20 (modified with weight in the handle). Was not a fan of the Speed Pro, Radical Pro etc.

Ask for a low weight version of the Gravity Tour with racquet matching. Mine is currently at 328g / 6HL / 319sw. I bought it at 315sw (I had options of 315,317,320,323 & 325 if I want not mistaken) and added a little weight to head and handle to acheive this (it would be an exact mactch to my currect racquet). If I wanted 8HL all I would do is add 6-7g in the butt... which would make it 335 / 8HL / 319sw and I can easily add some in the 2.5g each to the head and butt to beef up the swingweight and keep the same balance etc..

JUST MAKE SURE TO BUY THE LIGHTER SWINGWEIGHT VERSION OF THE RACQUET YOU WANT.

 

[AA7]

I'm tempted to go with the pro but worried I'll get one over spec on static weight and too head heavy then if I have to add a leather grip to get it more head light it will be 350+ grams again and a sledge hammer.

My advice would be to pay $20 more for customization and get a lightweight version. I bet they can find a 325sw one for you and most likely will be a little lower in static weight anyways...

 

[Hagberg]

You are actually allowed to own both the Tour and Pro

The Tour can easily be adjusted to Pro-like specs by swapping the butt cap. The Pro has the butt cap with 5g ballast and the Tour has not.
By putting such a butt cap in the Tour, you get closer to the same weight and less head heavy.

It's very easy to swap between these two models. The Tour feels a bit more towards "normal" racquets while the Pro has a more buttery sensation that is very addictive. The ball flies in similar trajectories anyway so there is no need for a significant adjustment period when swapping.
The maneuverability at net can be worked around in several ways if you find that it's a problem. Maybe the best way is to hit the gym.
Or, just get used to grip the racquet a few millimeters in when volleying. I heard this is a common solution for professional double players who plays with extended racquets.

 

[esm]

The Tour can easily be adjusted to Pro-like specs by swapping the butt cap. The Pro has the butt cap with 5g ballast and the Tour has not.
By putting such a butt cap in the Tour, you get closer to the same weight and less head heavy.

thanks for that info - didn't known GTour is without the weighted butt cap.

 

[t_pac]

My Tour has it - weighs 7g

 

[Yamin]

I'm not a fan of modding rackets to match other racket specs, but the gravity pro I played with was a log. Was at least high 330's for sw.

Sure you can feel .3 points of mgri

Really it depends on your height

If you are over 6ft then mgri of 20.8ish is optimum. At 5ft 11 it's 21

Been seeing this stat pop up more and more recently. What's optimum for 5 ft 8 and western grip? Just plugged in my racket stats 20.4 and it seems like I'm very far off the direction I need to be going in.

 

[CosmosMpower]

You are actually allowed to own both the Tour and Pro

The Tour can easily be adjusted to Pro-like specs by swapping the butt cap. The Pro has the butt cap with 5g ballast and the Tour has not.
By putting such a butt cap in the Tour, you get closer to the same weight and less head heavy.

It's very easy to swap between these two models. The Tour feels a bit more towards "normal" racquets while the Pro has a more buttery sensation that is very addictive. The ball flies in similar trajectories anyway so there is no need for a significant adjustment period when swapping.
The maneuverability at net can be worked around in several ways if you find that it's a problem. Maybe the best way is to hit the gym.
Or, just get used to grip the racquet a few millimeters in when volleying. I heard this is a common solution for professional double players who plays with extended racquets.

I thought all G360+ generation frames have the butt cap with the 7G weight built in? This was the case for my Prestige MP, Extreme Tour, Speed Pro and Radical Pro that I owned.

 

[CosmosMpower]

If you aren't dead set on leather, try a thin synthetic grip. Wilson Feather Thin is my preferred but there are none anywhere at the moment. Babolat Syntec Team is also good.

Wouldn't a thin synthetic grip weigh less? The point is to increase weight in the handle to make it more head light.

 

[ryushen21]

Wouldn't a thin synthetic grip weigh less? The point is to increase weight in the handle to make it more head light.

Synthetic will weigh less than leather but you don't have control over how much the leather weighs. Using a thin synthetic group would allow you to get a similar grip feel to leather and then add weight more precisely to achieve your desired balance. I would consider it to be the best option to get your desired outcome without making the racquet too heavy.

 

[CosmosMpower]

Synthetic will weigh less than leather but you don't have control over how much the leather weighs. Using a thin synthetic group would allow you to get a similar grip feel to leather and then add weight more precisely to achieve your desired balance. I would consider it to be the best option to get your desired outcome without making the racquet too heavy.

I use leather grips for adding weight, not feel but I get your point. I usually want to add about 7-10 grams to the handle so it works out fine. If I need to add even more weight I will add a lead wheel balancing weight inside a small foam block in the butt cap.

 

[ryushen21]

I use leather grips for adding weight, not feel but I get your point. I usually want to add about 7-10 grams to the handle so it works out fine. If I need to add even more weight I will add a lead wheel balancing weight inside a small foam block in the butt cap.

Fair enough, I used to be all about leather for the added weight and the bevel feel. Now, I'm usually trying to keep my racquets under a certain static and strung weight and that is easier to accomplish with synthetic. But, you should be good to use leather in your case.

 

[Pp3355]

I'm not a fan of modding rackets to match other racket specs, but the gravity pro I played with was a log. Was at least high 330's for sw.



Been seeing this stat pop up more and more recently. What's optimum for 5 ft 8 and western grip? Just plugged in my racket stats 20.4 and it seems like I'm very far off the direction I need to be going in.

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[CosmosMpower]

Fair enough, I used to be all about leather for the added weight and the bevel feel. Now, I'm usually trying to keep my racquets under a certain static and strung weight and that is easier to accomplish with synthetic. But, you should be good to use leather in your case.

I do like the crisper feel of the bevels with leather but I use an over grip so it negates that a bit.

 

[dr325i]

You are actually allowed to own both the Tour and Pro

The Tour can easily be adjusted to Pro-like specs by swapping the butt cap. The Pro has the butt cap with 5g ballast and the Tour has not.
By putting such a butt cap in the Tour, you get closer to the same weight and less head heavy.

It's very easy to swap between these two models. The Tour feels a bit more towards "normal" racquets while the Pro has a more buttery sensation that is very addictive. The ball flies in similar trajectories anyway so there is no need for a significant adjustment period when swapping.
The maneuverability at net can be worked around in several ways if you find that it's a problem. Maybe the best way is to hit the gym.
Or, just get used to grip the racquet a few millimeters in when volleying. I heard this is a common solution for professional double players who plays with extended racquets.

Both, Tour and Pro come with identical pallets and buttcaps...and hairpin that is made to fit them.
Not sure what are you talking about

 

[HitMoreBHs]

You are actually allowed to own both the Tour and Pro

The Tour can easily be adjusted to Pro-like specs by swapping the butt cap. The Pro has the butt cap with 5g ballast and the Tour has not.
By putting such a butt cap in the Tour, you get closer to the same weight and less head heavy.

All HEAD “tour” racquets released after the HEAD Zepp sensor have the 7g weighted buttcap. This allows the Zepp sensor to be substituted without altering the racquet specs. If your Gravity Tour does not have a 7g weighted buttcap, yours is the exception (or you bought it second hand and the previous owner swapped it out with an unweighted one).

 

[dr325i]

All HEAD “tour” racquets released after the HEAD Zepp sensor have the 7g weighted buttcap. This allows the Zepp sensor to be substituted without altering the racquet specs. If your Gravity Tour does not have a 7g weighted buttcap, yours is the exception (or you bought it second hand and the previous owner swapped it out with an unweighted one).

The simple reality check is that if it did not come with it, the swap would NOT be as simple as claimed as the old hairpins did not provide enough room for the sensor bulge in the new buttcaps.
the pro stock buttcaps have lead weighting in them for the similar purpose

 

[Power Player]

The simple reality check is that if it did not come with it, the swap would NOT be as simple as claimed as the old hairpins did not provide enough room for the sensor bulge in the new buttcaps.
the pro stock buttcaps have lead weighting in them for the similar purpose

Yep, the PT2.0 can't take the weighted buttcap, only the basic one. I borrowed the PTs buttcap to lessen the weight on my GP a little. Managed to get some Head buttcaps in a few days later so the Pt is back in action. Let me add leather to my GP and only added back 4 grams this way.

With the Tour I think I would just add a leather grip as the mod and be good to go there. My GP SW is 329/330 depending on the strings though, so im not sure it would make much sense to do all this. Instead I could just buy another GP from TW and use the matching service.

 

[Hagberg]

I have 2 Tour frames, one 2019 and one 2021, both bought new. Both without the heavy butt cap.
Difference in weight between heavy and standard butt cap is ~5 grams

 

[HitMoreBHs]

I have 2 Tour frames, one 2019 and one 2021, both bought new. Both without the heavy butt cap.
Difference in weight between heavy and standard butt cap is ~5 grams

Intriguing. You’re saying your Gravity Tours haven’t got a buttcap like this type?

 

[t_pac]

Are the Tour and Pro meant to be the same head shape? Been a while since I hit with the Pro, but grabbed a demo frame from one of our club pros tonight and immediately noticed it had less of a teardrop shape and more of a traditional shape.

It's narrower and longer than my Tour. Also there total length of the racquet is a few mm longer.

 

[t_pac]

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[t_pac]

Hard to get good pics but you can see the Pro is definitely narrower and longer

 

[esm]

Hard to get good pics but you can see the Pro is definitely narrower and longer

The Tour head looks to be “squashed”. Can I ask if the pre-strung length measurement is the same as strung measurement?
Which one measures @ 27”?

 

[Pneumated1]

Glad I checked this thread out. When I bought my Gravity Tour, I swapped out the L3 for L4 (compliments of dr325i). I just checked, and the L4 has a light cap, but the L3 I removed has the heavy one. 5g difference, so I swapped them. Who would have known?

 

[t_pac]

The Tour head looks to be “squashed”. Can I ask if the pre-strung length measurement is the same as strung measurement?
Which one measures @ 27”?

Not sure about un-strung / strung length, planning on re-stringing soon though so can check

What I can tell you is the strung length of the tour is the same as all my other frames, it's definitely the Pro that is longer

 

[Hagberg]

Intriguing. You’re saying your Gravity Tours haven’t got a buttcap like this type?

Exactly... My two (Tour) racquets came with the buttcaps without the metal weight.
My Gravity Pros have the heavy buttcap.

Regarding the discussion about difference between Tour / Pro frames, I can't visually detect any difference between my Tours (2) and Pros (4).
Both 2019 and 2021 frames are represented

 

[EggSalad]

Not sure about un-strung / strung length, planning on re-stringing soon though so can check

What I can tell you is the strung length of the tour is the same as all my other frames, it's definitely the Pro that is longer

Was the GP a demo racquet or the pro’s personal racquet? If it was personal, any chance your pro extended it .5” ?

Im pretty sure they are all 27” racquets so there should be no difference in length when stock.

Also, queue up the Gut/Poly shrinks racquet discussion.

 

[t_pac]

Was the GP a demo racquet or the pro’s personal racquet? If it was personal, any chance your pro extended it .5” ?

Im pretty sure they are all 27” racquets so there should be no difference in length when stock.

Also, queue up the Gut/Poly shrinks racquet discussion.

The GPro is a demo, completely stock (still has plastic on the grip). It's longer than all my other frames, whether they are strung or un-strung.

I cut the strings out of the Tour and the width difference has definitely reduced, but it's still there (see photo!) and the Pro is still slightly longer.

Guess they were both slightly compressed just in different dimensions. The interesting thing is they're both poly hybrids, but with poly in the crosses on my Tour, but in the mains on the Pro (with what looks like syn gut crosses)...

I've also noticed that one of my other frames is also slightly shorter (TF40) strung with (you guessed it) gut/poly

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