Head Gravity

[nov]

The leather would be fairly thin yeh? Have always found leather fairly hard til it warms up. But on a Grav MP which is at 62 RA is it pretty darn connected or something? Did you change pallets on this, experiment, think the last Head I did that on was the Speed...

I use Head leather + overgrip. Didnt find it hard at all, but leather helps with control for me.

 

[DustinW]

Picked up a Gravity MP and now that I've had a few hits with it, I'm not exactly sure what to think about it. I like it but don't love it. The combination of flex, low static weight, and higher swingweight makes for a low power frame that isn't super easy to swing... which is weird to me. But maybe my opinion is skewed, because I'm personally not a fan of the current trend of cranking up the swingweight on lighter frames.

Definitely lots of control with the MP. I'd say it is solid all around but nothing stands out as great about it. Hitting depth from the baseline is pretty easy, but spin and power are a bit harder to come by. Serve placement is good, but again, spin and power is lacking a bit. Backhand slices seem to float on me, which I wasn't expecting.

Compared to the Radical MP, the Radical has more power and spin and is overall easier to play with. The Gravity MP has a bit more control than the Radical but not by much.

I'm going to try some other string setups and see how it goes.

 

[blablavla]

Picked up a Gravity MP and now that I've had a few hits with it, I'm not exactly sure what to think about it. I like it but don't love it. The combination of flex, low static weight, and higher swingweight makes for a low power frame that isn't super easy to swing... which is weird to me. But maybe my opinion is skewed, because I'm personally not a fan of the current trend of cranking up the swingweight on lighter frames.

Definitely lots of control with the MP. I'd say it is solid all around but nothing stands out as great about it. Hitting depth from the baseline is pretty easy, but spin and power are a bit harder to come by. Serve placement is good, but again, spin and power is lacking a bit. Backhand slices seem to float on me, which I wasn't expecting.

Compared to the Radical MP, the Radical has more power and spin and is overall easier to play with. The Gravity MP has a bit more control than the Radical but not by much.

I'm going to try some other string setups and see how it goes.

don't know man, when I tried the MP, I found that in the spin and power department for the service, it was almost as good as PA 2019.
without much effort, the ball was simply bouncing off the court.
I also found that it was very easy to slice.
My struggle was in controlling solid pace, or generating solid pace. This is where Tour excels, although Tour is not as versatile as MP.

I am wondering how would an 16x20 stringing pattern (MP) play in combination with Tour or even Pro weight.

 

[megamind]

don't know man, when I tried the MP, I found that in the spin and power department for the service, it was almost as good as PA 2019.
without much effort, the ball was simply bouncing off the court.
I also found that it was very easy to slice.
My struggle was in controlling solid pace, or generating solid pace. This is where Tour excels, although Tour is not as versatile as MP.

I am wondering how would an 16x20 stringing pattern (MP) play in combination with Tour or even Pro weight.

i wonder the same

i feel like i might like that better than 18x20 (i haven't tried it but there's a head speed with similar specs but in 16x20, different mold tho)

yea, MP lacks stability

found it hard to return strong serves, felt a little flimsy

 

[nov]

i wonder the same

i feel like i might like that better than 18x20 (i haven't tried it but there's a head speed with similar specs but in 16x20, different mold tho)

yea, MP lacks stability

found it hard to return strong serves, felt a little flimsy

What hard serves you mean?3.5 or 5.0+ level?

 

[3loudboys]

Very close to pulling the trigger and ordering a Gravity Tour, after all its fathers day on Sunday. Anyone able to compare the Gravity Tour to the old Prince Tour 18x20 which it specs out close to?

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[blablavla]

What hard serves you mean?3.5 or 5.0+ level?

don't know what is @megamind experience, but I can tell you my set-up.

1. Ball machine. It is of course not precise, but if I had to draw a line between where MP was super frame as opposed to where it lacked stability, it would be the approx. 100 km/h pace.
So 100km/h or higher, I was really struggling with the MP
Below this - a very comfortable frame.
As I understand the ball machine numbers, those are usually measured when the ball is leaving the ball machine.

2. Practice with real opponents.
Both training partners adult males.
One is within top 3% of ranking, another is within top 10% ranking in a country with tens of thousands of active male players.
The guy within 3% ranking generates really challenging pace, but I haven't measured it with radar gun to give you numbers.
At this level MP lacked stability, whereas Tour is actually helping me.

3. A match with what probably would have been equivalent of 3.5 opponent or something like that.
MP was a great tool.
Very versatile, impossible to make mistakes.
Easy access to depth, control, top spin, slice.

 

[nov]

don't know what is @megamind experience, but I can tell you my set-up.

1. Ball machine. It is of course not precise, but if I had to draw a line between where MP was super frame as opposed to where it lacked stability, it would be the approx. 100 km/h pace.
So 100km/h or higher, I was really struggling with the MP
Below this - a very comfortable frame.
As I understand the ball machine numbers, those are usually measured when the ball is leaving the ball machine.

2. Practice with real opponents.
Both training partners adult males.
One is within top 3% of ranking, another is within top 10% ranking in a country with tens of thousands of active male players.
The guy within 3% ranking generates really challenging pace, but I haven't measured it with radar gun to give you numbers.
At this level MP lacked stability, whereas Tour is actually helping me.

3. A match with what probably would have been equivalent of 3.5 opponent or something like that.
MP was a great tool.
Very versatile, impossible to make mistakes.
Easy access to depth, control, top spin, slice.

But Tour compared to MP have SW higher by 2 and 11gr more static weight but pattern 18 x 20 which should have less stability compare to 16 x 20. How can it be much different?

 

[blablavla]

But Tour compared to MP have SW higher by 2 and 11gr more static weight but pattern 18 x 20 which should have less stability compare to 16 x 20. How can it be much different?

I'm not a big expert in frames and customization, but to my knowledge 18x20 has inherently more stability.
perhaps @travlerajm can explain the physics of this.

to make it short:
an open pattern, like 16x20, or 16x19 will let the ball sink more in the stringbed. Everything else being same, you will get more pace and more spin from an open pattern but less "pin point control"
closed pattern. Imagine same frame, just with a different drilling, namely 18x20. If you hit the sweet spot, there will be more strings at the contact point, so the ball won't sink that much in the stringbed, but you will get more "pin point" control, with less pace and less spin.

as you mentioned, another point is SW difference.
and then another point is static weight.

another point, which derives from the SW and static weight, is how the weight is distributed on the racket, and how much lay-up is applied in Tour as opposed in MP.

but hey, finally, you need to test the frame by yourself and see if what I noticed and what @megamind noticed will happen in your case.
perhaps MP is a good fit for your game, and this is all that matters, isn't it?

 

[nov]

I'm not a big expert in frames and customization, but to my knowledge 18x20 has inherently more stability.
perhaps @travlerajm can explain the physics of this.

to make it short:
an open pattern, like 16x20, or 16x19 will let the ball sink more in the stringbed. Everything else being same, you will get more pace and more spin from an open pattern but less "pin point control"
closed pattern. Imagine same frame, just with a different drilling, namely 18x20. If you hit the sweet spot, there will be more strings at the contact point, so the ball won't sink that much in the stringbed, but you will get more "pin point" control, with less pace and less spin.

as you mentioned, another point is SW difference.
and then another point is static weight.

another point, which derives from the SW and static weight, is how the weight is distributed on the racket, and how much lay-up is applied in Tour as opposed in MP.

but hey, finally, you need to test the frame by yourself and see if what I noticed and what @megamind noticed will happen in your case.
perhaps MP is a good fit for your game, and this is all that matters, isn't it?

I got a bit confused, ye 18 x 20 will have a bit more stability. I never played with 18 x 20 racquet for longer period, just few hits. I actually bought Tour before but returned, because it was bad quality control, very heavy (315gr unstrung) and even balance without strings...

 

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[nov]

Gravity's in short summary:

Tear drop shape frame, makes the sweet spot insanely large, and i have not found a racquet with a better, more forgiving sweet spot.

Gravity MP:
User friendly, great feel, good level of spin with mid to high launch angle, low powered, but can provide decent power once you adapt to the speed you need to swing), very manoeuvrable, decent for serving (accuracy and power), not a ton of control, is stable at lower levels of play, but not great for high pace NTRP 4.5++. Added lead for stability and counter balance does not seem to provide too many benefits and takes away from what makes the racquet great at stock.

Gravity Tour:
100% in the hands of QC, anything over descriptive spec swing weight makes it kind of useless if it matches the Pro's SW. If you can get on spec or under spec, then this would provide a faster version of the pro with similar (great) feel, feels exactly like the MP but more stability, similar level of control to the Pro, stable for static weight, and a very solid all court racquet. Adding weight to handle could really turn this into A+ racquet if your swing weight is between 325-330. Spin level is fine in my opinion even with 18x20 (because it's an open 18x20), but if you have issues with launch angle, use sharp / shaped / thin poly and it will be perfect

Gravity Pro:
Amazing touch and feel, can become a bit cumbersome over long period of use, but the thinner beam is really easy to cut through air, the power difference between the Pro and Tour is negated by the fact that the Pro has a higher static weight and swing weight, providing an amazing plow through feel that the Tour doesn't, which helps basically hit the same amount of power (unless you weight up the Tour's head). I think it is the best one out of the 3 if you are capable of swinging it around and using it's full capabilities without sacrifice. Amazing for attacking and forgiving enough to still defend if needed. Launch angle basically same as the Tour. I would recommend requesting a lower spec if possible, having a SW of around 330 with some space to move up if you prefer to

Nice summary. But could you explain more why added lead didnt helped and what exactly lead takes away from stock form?

 

[blablavla]

Nice summary. But could you explain more why added lead didnt helped and what exactly lead takes away from stock form?

MP.
When I added 4 gr of lead at 3/9 it seemed to be the right direction.
Then I added another 4 gr of lead, same placement, making the total to 8 gr. The stability wasn't there, and it became more difficult to handle the frame. Perhaps if I would have counter-balanced it, although counter-balancing isn't known for improving stability, only maneuverability.
But Tour, has the stability from stock form.
Maneuverability is not as good as with MP, but:
Volley with Tour is easy
Slice is easy
Control is there
Spin - if you have the right technique is also there

So Tour just nailed it.
Now I wonder if moving to GPro is a good consideration

 

[nov]

MP.
When I added 4 gr of lead at 3/9 it seemed to be the right direction.
Then I added another 4 gr of lead, same placement, making the total to 8 gr. The stability wasn't there, and it became more difficult to handle the frame. Perhaps if I would have counter-balanced it, although counter-balancing isn't known for improving stability, only maneuverability.
But Tour, has the stability from stock form.
Maneuverability is not as good as with MP, but:
Volley with Tour is easy
Slice is easy
Control is there
Spin - if you have the right technique is also there

So Tour just nailed it.
Now I wonder if moving to GPro is a good consideration

I think ill buy Pro version if i could get it at 305gr-310gr unstrung with advertised SW. But quality control these days is hortible and my experience with Tour wasnt good.

 

[jbdbackfan]

Gravity's in short summary:

Tear drop shape frame, makes the sweet spot insanely large, and i have not found a racquet with a better, more forgiving sweet spot.

Gravity MP:
User friendly, great feel, good level of spin with mid to high launch angle, low powered, but can provide decent power once you adapt to the speed you need to swing), very manoeuvrable, decent for serving (accuracy and power), not a ton of control, is stable at lower levels of play, but not great for high pace NTRP 4.5++. Added lead for stability and counter balance does not seem to provide too many benefits and takes away from what makes the racquet great at stock.

Gravity Tour:
100% in the hands of QC, anything over descriptive spec swing weight makes it kind of useless if it matches the Pro's SW. If you can get on spec or under spec, then this would provide a faster version of the pro with similar (great) feel, feels exactly like the MP but more stability, similar level of control to the Pro, stable for static weight, and a very solid all court racquet. Adding weight to handle could really turn this into A+ racquet if your swing weight is between 325-330. Spin level is fine in my opinion even with 18x20 (because it's an open 18x20), but if you have issues with launch angle, use sharp / shaped / thin poly and it will be perfect

Gravity Pro:
Amazing touch and feel, can become a bit cumbersome over long period of use, but the thinner beam is really easy to cut through air, the power difference between the Pro and Tour is negated by the fact that the Pro has a higher static weight and swing weight, providing an amazing plow through feel that the Tour doesn't, which helps basically hit the same amount of power (unless you weight up the Tour's head). I think it is the best one out of the 3 if you are capable of swinging it around and using it's full capabilities without sacrifice. Amazing for attacking and forgiving enough to still defend if needed. Launch angle basically same as the Tour. I would recommend requesting a lower spec if possible, having a SW of around 330 with some space to move up if you prefer to

So if one were to get a spec matched Tour what strings best suit this frame? All poly or a hybrid?

 

[BBM]

So if one were to get a spec matched Tour what strings best suit this frame? All poly or a hybrid?

That's 100% personal.. it can handle whatever. I thought it really shined with hybrid (multi in the mains, poly in the crosses), but that's because I love that setup in most sticks. I'm now trying it with Hyper-G 1.15, it really opens the stringbed up and makes it a little more HL which I like... But it feels a bit more flimsy/noodly for some reason, probably too thin of a gauge.

 

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[bertrevert]

Compared to the Radical MP, the Radical has more power and spin and is overall easier to play with. The Gravity MP has a bit more control than the Radical but not by much.

Gee I don't think this at all. Dunno which Rad model you are referring to but the Rad is definitely a control frame and low powered. The Grav MP is more forgiving and powerful, but not overly much... at least IMHO.

I'm kinda glad this comparison is going on though. I've have quite a few Radicals liquid metal onwards. They were always brilliant for me in dbls, but not in singles.

On many levels, without going into details, it's not hard to understand given the different forms of the game - think, short sharp points at the net vs longer built up, played out points. Too many errors in singles rallies. So I've flip-flopped between control 98 frames vs more powerful 100 frames.

Anyway it's been a slow process for me to find a racq that works for both. Gravity MP has good maneuverability at net and that upper hoop is a lifesaver. Then from the baseline it can hammer some stuff.

 

[nov]

Pretty similar to what @blablavla said. It's like the MP was perfect as it was, aside from the control aspect, once you add lead, you either lose it's lightweight feel and it becomes maybe too powerful, or you counterbalance and then it stops being a lightweight frame and moves into exactly what the Tour is, but you don't have the control of the Tour, because the MP is already generating decent spin and power, and then you add lead it over does it but doesn't have the control to back it up, that's what i thought anyway. It could be the strings I used was too powerful, could of dialed it down



I don't know if other people had the same experience, maybe it's because my wrist is more sensitive these days, but i feel that many of the Head 360+ models are string sensitive & tension sensitive. Anytime i put a stiffer poly in these 360+ head racquets, like a Lux 4G, or a Weiss Cannon Ultra, the flex seemed to become more hollow, tiny and lose it's great feel. Also for me anything over 52lbs (more so 48-50lbs) was not great unless i used a softer poly or hybrid

String choice when it comes to the Tour or Pro is more about what launch angle you want and if you need enough spin. I currently got a set of Head Lynx Tour in the GTour and it feels really good and spin is perfect.


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Also with the GPro's weight, i would use 1.15 gauge to remove a few grams off the head of the frame, which would reduce the swing weight and make it easier to swing, and at the same time fixed the launch angle that i wasn't used to, that's when I connected with the Pro and immediately played the best I ever played

I don't think you can really go wrong with any of the Gravity's, i think they are all good for a certain level or purpose. Been using them since day of the release, and I've bought at least 10 new models of other racquets since for fun, that were also very enjoyable frames, but nothing I've found just matches up with the feel and forgiveness of a Gravity. The shape isn't for everyone, but for those who like it, nothing can quite compare

Do you think its good to put Leather grip on MP without counterweighting head?It prob shift sweetspot a little bit lower?

 

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[DustinW]

^ My MP is only 2 points headlight strung, so I couldn't imaging adding lead to it.

Gee I don't think this at all. Dunno which Rad model you are referring to but the Rad is definitely a control frame and low powered. The Grav MP is more forgiving and powerful, but not overly much... at least IMHO.

Sounds like you are talking about the pre-Graphene Radicals. I am talking about the post-Graphene Radicals, specifically the Touch MP.

 

[blablavla]

^ My MP is only 2 points headlight strung, so I couldn't imaging adding lead to it.


Sounds like you are talking about the pre-Graphene Radicals. I am talking about the post-Graphene Radicals, specifically the Touch MP.

if you counter balance it by adding weight into the grip, or by replacing the standard grip with a leather grip and adding an overgrip, then you can add lead to the desired location: 12, 2/10, 3/9

 

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[DustinW]

if you counter balance it by adding weight into the grip, or by replacing the standard grip with a leather grip and adding an overgrip, then you can add lead to the desired location: 12, 2/10, 3/9

Yep I know, but then you are talking about adding 10-15 grams to the static weight, which I don't want.

 

[jdx2112]

In comparing the Gravity Tour with TF 305, in stock how would those that have used both comment on stability, maneuverability, spin and power?

I've been demoing both of these rackets, too. I tend to prefer the GTour more than the TF. TF feels just a tad more powerful, but also a bit stiffer. It's a great racket and I love hitting with it, but it is just slightly more board like than the Tour, which to me is noticeably plusher.

 

[jbdbackfan]

I've been demoing both of these rackets, too. I tend to prefer the GTour more than the TF. TF feels just a tad more powerful, but also a bit stiffer. It's a great racket and I love hitting with it, but it is just slightly more board like than the Tour, which to me is noticeably plusher.

Thanks!

 

[bertrevert]

Made a video review

Great stuff, liked it! Interesting point where you say the "tear-shaped" hoop provides almost all sweetspot.

I tried the Clash and found it very interesting in that it also expands the sweetspot. A very even stringbed from edge to edge.

I do not know how this is done but it certainly appears an aim of modern frames to try for a little error-correction in expanding the window in which to make contact and get a more certain, a more even response. Earlier some frames used to have distinct hotspots, as if the manufacturing process could not control it.

The Head Radicals always had a bit more of a teardrop shaped hoop than an oval, and I think Head have cleverly gone after this characteristic and emphasised and maximised it here in this new Gravity line of frames. It's a good idea to pursue a unique selling point after all...

But whereas I found the Clash a bit vague over the stringbed, I certainly don't with the Grav MP. It's upper hoop area I find very useful, and unique. It's responsive, not dead, and you can feel it work (or it's something I can work with).

Besides the upper hoop area it is also across the middle that I think the Grav achieves some roundness, a bit like the Extreme (sorry for all these comparisons don't know how else to say it). So in topspin groundies you get that surety of a wide hitting area. Not narrow oval like a 300g, rather wide and responsive. It's a bit depowered of course however at least it cuts down the errors! (Not targeting errors but rather simpler errors when staying in a rally.)

 

[qtmtran]

Has anybody here try Luxilon Big Banger with a Gravity Pro? I am wondering how does that feel like? I have Hyper G on my pair of Gravity Pros and they feel great but I am interested in stringing with Luxilon.

 

[Hit 'em clean]

Not yet, I’ve played mostly with multifilaments and synthetic guts (technifibre multifeel and Wilson power syn gut) at around 50-51 lbs. I tried Volkl Cyclone but didn’t like it at all (48lbs). Something about the sting itself created some unwanted vibrations. I put in Lux 4G Rough at 46lbs and it has been fantastic. I would imagine that Alu Power would be good. Big Banger original might work but any poly I would string at 46lbs or even slightly lower.

 

[Yamin]

I've just returned from several years off from tennis and a few shoulder surgeries. Saw glowing reviews for the gravity Pro. I used to play with the Youtek speed pro 98 but is a bit too demanding and stiff for me now. This racket sounded great on paper with a lower weight, swing weight, and more arm friendly. Seems like larger head sizes and lower weights are how things have progressed.. Though I hit well, there seemed to be a lot of vibration and pinging. I use a western grip.....

Saw a few pages back someone was talking about a pinging on the Gravity pro while others dismissed it. I would guess it was strung with head hawk? (this is a guess based on the gray color and this place keeping string within the family but there was no label) Not sure the tension but (didn't seem too high or low) even with a dampener unless I was hitting flat shots the pinging and vibration was pretty bad. Can anyone else speak to this? Also saw mention of "spiral fibers" which may be the case but just wanted to confirm it's not just me and one other guy experiencing this. I actually enjoyed hitting with the racket and loved the control but the pinging and vibration is turning me off.

Hit along side a blade 98 and had no complaints aside from the horrendous paint job and just never enjoying wilson rackets in the past. I have always played with Head rackets so I didn't want to disqualify the Gravity pro just yet.

 

[PD1978]

I went back and played with my Clash 100 Tour for a few days as I was having some shoulder pain. It’s so much more headlight then my GPro or GTour. I normally use the GTour. I’m definitely going to weight up the handle to get a more headlight balance on my Gravity frames.

 

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[smalahove]

Sold my last Heads a few weeks ago: GPro, MP+, PT 2.0. Bought a couple of PS 16x19 Japan ltd flag ed. Bought a Yonex VCore Pro 97 330g (blue).
Realized how good the GPro and MP+ were *slaps forehead*. Sold the Babs and Yonex. Bought a new GPro. All is good.

This is the first time I've sold and re-bought the same frame within a few weeks. Don't know what happened, but the GPro stays. I was keen on staying with Yonex, as I really like their build quality and QC, which is still much better than the other mfcs, but the GPro and MP+ are better frames for me than the VCORE Pro 97 and Vcore 95. If Yonex releases a new Vcore 95, I'll be checking that out closely, but for now I'm thinking of trying (buying) the Mid+, possibly re-buying the MP+, and looking out for the new 360+ version of the Radical Pro and the new Extreme Tour.

 

[tribesmen]

GPro is really a special racket. Head shape is super forgiving. Racket is not too light and not too heavy and it has decent plow already in stock form. And for 100 inch head is super maneuverable. Spin is not a problem as 18x20 pattern is quite open.

What more could a man want?

 

[DustinW]

Does anybody else find the upper 1/3 of the MP hoop to be super flexy? Feels like low-to-mid 50s up there... reminds me a bit of the Phantoms.

 

[redmini]

Just joined the Gravity club! Brand new Tour - first outing tomorrow!

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[Paul Y]

My son is trying to decide on a new set of rackets for the upcoming season. He has tried every Head line but the Gravity and is planning to try out the Tour. Right now the racket out of the whole head line he likes is the Prestige Tour, how well does the Gravity Tour compare to it?

 

[PD1978]

Anyone use a full bed of Element in their Pro or Tour?

 

[blablavla]

Just joined the Gravity club! Brand new Tour - first outing tomorrow!

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good choice!

 

[La Pavoni]

Hi All.
Picked up a Gravity Pro at the weekend. I've had 2 hits with it so far and enjoyed it. I couldn't decide between it and the tour, but decided that the extra weight of the pro would be good for my arm.

I had been playing with a Blade 98s CV for a few months before that, but it totally shredded my arm and ended up with me having to take a long break from hitting (which coincided with the lockdown period here in the UK). It was a shame as I had been playing really nicely with it until the point where it wrecked my arm....

I strung the GP with Kirschbaum gut feeling at 48lbs whilst my arm is still needing a bit of TLC. It's turned it in to a bit of a cannon, especially the second time that I played with it. I'm not sure whether that was just the style of the person that I was playing or that the string had relaxed a bit more.

Anyone have any recommendations for full beds of arm friendly strings?

I'm going to weight with 5g in the butt for my next hit and if I enjoy that, then I'll chuck a leather grip on.

 

[DustinW]

Its taken me a few weeks and a 3rd string setup to finally start grooving with the Gravity MP, but I'm digging it now.

Let's start with the feel. I didn't love it at first. It felt pingy and not great outside of the sweetspot. But... I think the problem was that I am used to muted frames. I've been playing with the original Graphene Radical MP for quite some time, and more recently the Touch Radical. I really like both, but I went back to the Touch Radical today, and it felt super muted (where I had never thought it was muted before). So I switch back to the Gravity, and it was a bit eye opening. I could feel everything, and I knew exactly where the ball was hitting on the stringbed from the feedback.

I typically don't enjoy flexible racquets, but I'm liking this one. You can definitely feel it flex, especially at the tip of the frame, but it doesn't feel springy like some others do, and you're really not losing any power at the tip.

The MP hits a nice heavy ball... much heavier than I'm used to at 295g unstrung. I haven't hit with any really big hitters yet, but I expect it to hold up to pace just fine. The power/control balance is good. It is on the lower end for power, but power is there if you want it, and depth and directional control is always good.

I think I'm most impressed by the spin I can generate on groundstrokes. I feel like the flex is contributing to that a bit, or maybe its the thin poly that I'm using, or maybe the roundish 100 sq in head... but I've been pleasantly surprised.

Now I'm tempted to try the Tour for a slightly more head light balance.

 

[nov]

Its taken me a few weeks and a 3rd string setup to finally start grooving with the Gravity MP, but I'm digging it now.

Let's start with the feel. I didn't love it at first. It felt pingy and not great outside of the sweetspot. But... I think the problem was that I am used to muted frames. I've been playing with the original Graphene Radical MP for quite some time, and more recently the Touch Radical. I really like both, but I went back to the Touch Radical today, and it felt super muted (where I had never thought it was muted before). So I switch back to the Gravity, and it was a bit eye opening. I could feel everything, and I knew exactly where the ball was hitting on the stringbed from the feedback.

I typically don't enjoy flexible racquets, but I'm liking this one. You can definitely feel it flex, especially at the tip of the frame, but it doesn't feel springy like some others do, and you're really not losing any power at the tip.

The MP hits a nice heavy ball... much heavier than I'm used to at 295g unstrung. I haven't hit with any really big hitters yet, but I expect it to hold up to pace just fine. The power/control balance is good. It is on the lower end for power, but power is there if you want it, and depth and directional control is always good.

I think I'm most impressed by the spin I can generate on groundstrokes. I feel like the flex is contributing to that a bit, or maybe its the thin poly that I'm using, or maybe the roundish 100 sq in head... but I've been pleasantly surprised.

Now I'm tempted to try the Tour for a slightly more head light balance.

I always tought its better to play with stiffer frames. But its only better if you playing very low static weight racquet <320gr strung i guess. Gravity its my first flexible racquet and i can do touch shots like i never imagined i would do. I strung with Babolat VS Touch 1.30 in mains and slick poly 1.25 in crosses.
Dont try the tour if you cant handle 330++ SW and 330 ++ static weight if you will make it atleast 4 HL. Unless you will be very lucky with QC, you will get Tour with Head heavy balance. Put leather grip or tungsten putty inside buttcap of your MP and make it 4-5 HL, that works best for MP i think. I tried 7 HL but it played worst with 7 HL for me, not sure why.

 

[bmd9]

That's 100% personal.. it can handle whatever. I thought it really shined with hybrid (multi in the mains, poly in the crosses), but that's because I love that setup in most sticks. I'm now trying it with Hyper-G 1.15, it really opens the stringbed up and makes it a little more HL which I like... But it feels a bit more flimsy/noodly for some reason, probably too thin of a gauge.

I've tried 16 to 18 in Hyper G and one go round with Confidential 17 (not great); Hyper G 17 (1.20) is the sweet spot, for me, with the tour. Just enough control and stability with plenty of spin at 52 lbs.

 

[bertrevert]

Its taken me a few weeks and a 3rd string setup

I typically don't enjoy flexible racquets, but I'm liking this one. You can definitely feel it flex, especially at the tip of the frame, but it doesn't feel springy like some others do, and you're really not losing any power at the tip.

The MP hits a nice heavy ball... much heavier than I'm used to at 295g unstrung.

What strings? mains/crosses?

Yes that upper hoop area seems ok. Usable, responsive, lifesaver,

Dunno, cannot seem to get much on groundies yet, am fooling around with lead - any suggestions!

 

[DustinW]

What strings? mains/crosses?

Yes that upper hoop area seems ok. Usable, responsive, lifesaver,

Dunno, cannot seem to get much on groundies yet, am fooling around with lead - any suggestions!

Currently using Tour Bite Soft 18 at 48 pounds. I went with a thinner poly to reduce the weight in the head by a few grams. I'm getting good spin and decent power with this setup.

A multi/poly hybrid and a full multi were both a no-go for me.

 

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[nov]

Weird thing happened with my Gravity MP after last few sessions. Lately i felt something wrong with control and wasnt sure what is it. Racquet started make sound like its cracked in handle, maybe not cracked but some weird sound. Its only happening from one side when i swing and especially slice swing from other side its ok. I tried inspect it but couldnt see any damage. I didnt hit racquet to ground or whatever and its used not much time. Anybody know what could be the issue?Could it be that pallets cracked or got glued off?

 

[Howard H]

Weird thing happened with my Gravity MP after last few sessions. Lately i felt something wrong with control and wasnt sure what is it. Racquet started make sound like its cracked in handle, maybe not cracked but some weird sound. Its only happening from one side when i swing and especially slice swing from other side its ok. I tried inspect it but couldnt see any damage. I didnt hit racquet to ground or whatever and its used not much time. Anybody know what could be the issue?Could it be that pallets cracked or got glued off?

Probably the butt cap is loose and the reason for a creaking sound. This can happen sometimes. Take off the base grip and check the four stapels that go through butt cap and pallets into the carbon hairpin. Maybe one of these stapels is loose and you need to replace it by using a staple gun.

 

[jbdbackfan]

So what I've gathered from this thread is Head QC is still awful?

 

[BBM]

Not as much as Wilson or Babolat but yes, awful. Yonex is ok, and to get spot on you need to go to a smaller brand that takes it seriously like Angell.