Head Gravity

Alex78

Hall of Fame
And here it is: Gravity MP Lite with leather grip, TW tungsten putty (28g) in the handle (swapped out the butt cap as well), and 3g each at 2 and 10 under the bumper guard


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Return_Ace

Hall of Fame
And here it is: Gravity MP Lite with leather grip, TW tungsten putty (28g) in the handle (swapped out the butt cap as well), and 3g each at 2 and 10 under the bumper guard


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Have just done something similar with my G360 Radical MP Lite, CAP'd, Leather Grip and 20g Tungsten Putty in the handle.

Plays very similar to my G360 Radical Pro, albeit it in a lighter form atm.

Needs a bit more weight somewhere, but I haven't quite decided where and how much since I haven't re-measured the specs after getting it strung.
 
I also ordered a Gravity Tour with matching service. These are specs I got from TWE:

Schläger 1 : 306 289 31,5

Schläger 2 : 307,8 290 31

Schläger 3 : 306,6 290 31

Schläger 4 : 305,4 285 31,2

Schläger 5 : 308,8 291 31,6

Schläger 6 : 308,1 291 31,4

I honestly can’t quite believe these balance numbers, seems to be that 31 should read 32. Unsure which one to order now although swingweight is alright on all of them.
I’d go with 5 and 6 - weight is a little higher, but worth a similar SW and with a balance that’s closest to advertised specs
 
I’d go with 5 and 6 - weight is a little higher, but worth a similar SW and with a balance that’s closest to advertised specs
Yeah, that’s what I did...just received my racquets and checked balance specs with a table and a ruler. Values seem to match, so there was no error. The demo racquet and a second hand Gravity Tour I played with had unstrung balances around 33cm that’s why I was sceptical about the rather head light specs TWE gave me.
 

alpenglo

Rookie
We all talk on this board like the racquet engineers don't know what they are doing, but I'm pretty sure they know quite a bit more. They design the stiffness, stability, power, spin, etc. all to fit a type of player and preferences... along with a level of play. There is a context that we often forget to the market, player, feel, etc. they are pursuing.

Too much weight and/or in the wrong place and IMO the frame doesn't react in the swing, hit, etc. with how it was originally designed. You can really lose the racquet... adding weight does not always 'fix' a racquet like so many believe. If you do like it stock, but feel it needs a little more this or that... than you can add a little to enhance that, but too much and I find that you often can lose the original racquet feel/playability.
Generally agree, and yet I have found the effects of a couple of grams of lead to be almost magical in eliminating the deficiencies (for my game, of course) of racquets that I otherwise would have abandoned or been greatly frustrated with. I was having problems serving effectively with my GPro, for instance, and in desperation (as the swingweight is already quite high), I added a couple of grams at 10 and 2...and WOW, now it's "working" great (for me, again). I suspect that what we are doing is not so much tweaking poor racquet designs as making them work better with our individual idiosyncrasies (my serve motion is less than ideal). The takeaway seems to be: if it works, it works!
 

nov

Rookie
Got my Gravity Tour and tried it for the first time today. Strung specs with overgrip and dampener: 326gr, balance 32.6cm, SW 322-325, Technifibre Triax 1.28mm strings 24/23kg. Swings lighter than my weighted MP, but has much better stability without added weight and lower SW than my MP for sure. It has lower launch angle but wasnt hard to adapt as i thought it will be. But i need to swing harder to get mass on the shots and i got more tired than usual.
Net play and touch shots were much better compared to MP. Made some great half volleys and felt nice on those shots, because usually i try to avoid half volley shots. My backhand come alive and i finally feel condifent hitting topspin 2HBH after long time. Slices were awesome. I already had good slice but with Tour it just became nice weapon. Shots i struggled the most were serve and FH with a lot of spin. I have good serve but have to work very hard and swing fast to have good power on the ball but it wasnt biggest problem for me. The biggest problem was FH when i try to hit with a lot of spin. I didnt feel like racqet have less spin but when i get ball into middle court i usually hit with grip between SW-W with a lot of spin and sharp angles and all those shots gone into the net. Im not sure about addapting, but actually all those shots gone into the net didnt made any of those. Never happened before.
Another thing to mention is that the racquet even with less RA (61 compared to 62 MP) felt less comfortable even i strung 24/23kg, usually i strung higher. But i played GUT/Poly hybrid wtih Gravity MP strung at 26/25kg and now for the first time i tried Technifibre Triax which is good string but i think GUT\Poly hybrid is better. To sum it up its not like the racuqet isnt comfartable but felt much crisper. Will see how it affects my hand in the future.
Overall i think i played better with Tour. I had more control,placement and consistency. I hit many flat winners which i couldnt hit before with any other racquet i played. On flat shots it really shined. Im just a bit worried about huge top spin shots, i dont know maybe i need more time to adjust on those. Next play i think ill try add 2gr on 12 o'clock to bring some power for my serves and will see how it goes.
 

jdx2112

Rookie
I hope so too. It’s such a good racquet line already, I don’t want to see Head tinker with it too much.
I can't imagine what they would do to the Pro or Tour. The spec relationship there is pretty acute. So much so that if you get a Tour with a too high SW, you're in the Pro category. Making the Pro any heavier stresses its marketability.

And the hoop shape doesn't lend itself to 98" head, like the Extreme Tour is to the Extreme line.
 

Villain

Semi-Pro
I can't imagine what they would do to the Pro or Tour. The spec relationship there is pretty acute. So much so that if you get a Tour with a too high SW, you're in the Pro category. Making the Pro any heavier stresses its marketability.

And the hoop shape doesn't lend itself to 98" head, like the Extreme Tour is to the Extreme line.
I guess I mean more with the flex and feel which I know the catalogue doesn’t have anyway. Anyone know what the new tech will be called? I see from the pics it still has the 360+ logo in the throat, which is a good thing. I’m guessing Head is combining 360+ with something “new.” Who would of thought we would actually want Head to hold onto some Graphene tech? How times have changed from the dark days of XT and Touch.
 

jdx2112

Rookie
I guess I mean more with the flex and feel which I know the catalogue doesn’t have anyway. Anyone know what the new tech will be called? I see from the pics it still has the 360+ logo in the throat, which is a good thing. I’m guessing Head is combining 360+ with something “new.” Who would of thought we would actually want Head to hold onto some Graphene tech? How times have changed from the dark days of XT and Touch.
Ok, so I see two new markings on this MP image. There's one on the outside throat, maybe Flex Groove? with a line graphic that makes me think it's about the deep string grooves? If so, that's not necessarily new. Labeling it is, but I think the grooves are the same. But there is another new graphic image midway on the inside of the hoop: elliptical something.
 

mscream

Professional
Played an hour with the Gravity Tour (demo) today. I'm searching for possible DR98 replacements. I was very pleasantly surprised with the GT - initially I was skeptical of the combination of 100 inch head and 18/20 pattern but it actually works very well! String density is similar to the DR98. So far good balance between forgiveness and feedback, power and control. Launch angle is just right. The demo unfortunately came strung with something superstiff and brassy, need to replace it with one of my go to strings. I tested the GPro a few months ago and liked that one as well. However with the Tour there is more room to customize and the Tour is actually not that far from the Pro in terms of feel. I would definitely change the replacement grip to something less squishy and depending on the received specs tinker with something like 2g at 12. It felt slightly unstable in the hoop but I'm used to fairly polarized racquets, nothing that couldn't be fixed easily.

I'm very curious about a potential new release as well. The Gravity line is on sale everywhere, in Europe you can get the Tour for €130. New release appears to be imminent, would be good to know if it's only cosmetic or not.
 

Villain

Semi-Pro
Played an hour with the Gravity Tour (demo) today. I'm searching for possible DR98 replacements. I was very pleasantly surprised with the GT - initially I was skeptical of the combination of 100 inch head and 18/20 pattern but it actually works very well! String density is similar to the DR98. So far good balance between forgiveness and feedback, power and control. Launch angle is just right. The demo unfortunately came strung with something superstiff and brassy, need to replace it with one of my go to strings. I tested the GPro a few months ago and liked that one as well. However with the Tour there is more room to customize and the Tour is actually not that far from the Pro in terms of feel. I would definitely change the replacement grip to something less squishy and depending on the received specs tinker with something like 2g at 12. It felt slightly unstable in the hoop but I'm used to fairly polarized racquets, nothing that couldn't be fixed easily.

I'm very curious about a potential new release as well. The Gravity line is on sale everywhere, in Europe you can get the Tour for €130. New release appears to be imminent, would be good to know if it's only cosmetic or not.
This line is one of Head’s best selling lines and was only released last July. Strange that Head is already looking to replace it.
 

geubes

Rookie
hmmm I like the purple, not sure on the blended shading, its not as striking as the current. The two separate solid sides work better. A Purple and Lime would have been good, think ill grab a 3rd Pro in the current colour. Just need to time the price drop right
 

Villain

Semi-Pro
hmmm I like the purple, not sure on the blended shading, its not as striking as the current. The two separate solid sides work better. A Purple and Lime would have been good, think ill grab a 3rd Pro in the current colour. Just need to time the price drop right
Not sure if you’re in the States, but TW has them on sale right now.
 

jdx2112

Rookie
Just heard from a TW racquet specialist that they’ve heard it’s more than a paint job. Pressure is on now: but a second Gravity or wait...
 

HitMoreBHs

Rookie
The specs for the entire Gravity range in the 2021 catalog are identical to 2020. I can’t imagine that the changes are more than just a new paint job. Not especially when the Gravity range is less than a year old and has shown strong sales. It’s a bad idea to mess with a winning layup!
 

beltsman

Legend
I only hit with my Gravity MP demo briefly, but I think it is too low powered for me. Although it could be the strings? I like the idea and specs of the Gravity, but I might need more stiffness/power.
 

snoflewis

Hall of Fame
I only hit with my Gravity MP demo briefly, but I think it is too low powered for me. Although it could be the strings? I like the idea and specs of the Gravity, but I might need more stiffness/power.
depends on your standards for power. I thought it had more than enough in stock form.
 

mad dog1

G.O.A.T.
I only hit with my Gravity MP demo briefly, but I think it is too low powered for me. Although it could be the strings? I like the idea and specs of the Gravity, but I might need more stiffness/power.
Plenty of spin and power for me. But my main sticks are Prestige Pros and Ultra Tours and the playing with the Gravity MP feels like I just consumed a Super Mario Bros power up Shroom.
 

nov

Rookie
Played again with Tour and its awesome racquet i dont think they're gonna change anything to Gravity line and even old paintjob looks better for me.
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
I have two gravity pros with only a leather grip, I really like playing with the frames. I may not have enough skill to make use of the 344 weight, if it was a 16/19 with 6 center mains maybe, but then I’m demoing the aero plus so idk. Great racquet for people who like player’s frames.
 

jdx2112

Rookie
What is power then?:) If i hit ball with same speed and ball bounce more then it has more power, no?
It's a good question. I might describe that as more spin, not more power. I equate power with force. I suppose the difference in definitions are best represented by the Pure Drive and the Pure Aero. Pure Drive provides more force than the Aero. The Aero gives more spin.
 

nov

Rookie
It's a good question. I might describe that as more spin, not more power. I equate power with force. I suppose the difference in definitions are best represented by the Pure Drive and the Pure Aero. Pure Drive provides more force than the Aero. The Aero gives more spin.
Hmm whatever you call it. But if i swing same speed both racquets MP gives more powerfull shot, but it doesnt mean you cant hit more powerfull shot with Tour. You can just need to swing faster where with MP if you swing that fast you prob miss the shot.
 

flex

Rookie
I always thought of "more power" when talking about racquets to mean it provides a deeper ball with more ease (relative to another racquet)
 

HitMoreBHs

Rookie
I have MP and Tour modded to about same specs, 330 static, 330 SW, Tour balance 32.7 and MP 33. Tour have much less power for sure.
Seems we have a near identical preference. I modded an MP and Tour to my preferred specs of 333g and 335SW. BP was 33.3mm (Tour) and 33.6mm (MP). Lynx Tour at 50lbs. Both felt similar to swing and I probably couldn’t tell which was which blindfolded.

However, they played with distinct differences. Easier spin generation and higher launch angle on the MP as expected given 16x19. Ball velocity was also faster for similar swingspeed of strokes with the MP. So to me, the MP is the more powerful of the two (ie: less effort needed to generate equivalent ballspeed, especially on serve and when hitting stretched on the run).

What was dramatically noticeable was the greater stability of the Tour, particularly when playing against harder hitting players. Probably down to the higher twistweight of the Tour. As others have posted, modding up an MP to Tour specs does not yield a Tour. They remain distinctly different racquets.

In the end, I much preferred the Tour and it’s now my main stick, and will likely remain for a long time. It suits my flatter stroke style, has a more stable hoop than the MP and has a nice plush feel reminiscent of classic HEAD racquets. The MP is also a really nice stick, and if the Tour didn’t exist, I’d be entirely happy using it instead. If your game is more modern and spin oriented, you’ll probably prefer the MP. But for someone like me who learned to play on grass in 1982, I’ll never quite learn how to play with heavy spin!

I don’t change my racquets often once I find something that works well. I used the Prestige Tour 600 for 20+yrs prior to switching to the Gravity Tour this year. At 50, I need a bit more help from the stick! I agree that power is highly subjective and depends on what you’re used to. Compared with the PT600, most of today’s sticks are cannons!
 
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c0ppo

New User
I've bought two GTs. And I got lucky, both are at 305gr, one is 32cm balance, while other is at 31.8cm.

Now, this doesn't suite me. I'm used to 30,5 to 31 balance (without strings). I thought about changing base grip with wilson leather grip. That would add about 10gr if I'm not mistaken? And what would the balance be like then? Has anyone tried this?
 

SinneGOAT

Hall of Fame
I've bought two GTs. And I got lucky, both are at 305gr, one is 32cm balance, while other is at 31.8cm.

Now, this doesn't suite me. I'm used to 30,5 to 31 balance (without strings). I thought about changing base grip with wilson leather grip. That would add about 10gr if I'm not mistaken? And what would the balance be like then? Has anyone tried this?
I have two gravity pros, I added leather grips. The leather grip will help bring up the maneuverability, and because the tour is a little less weight than the pro it will still be fast. I would try it, and if it’s not headlight enough maybe add lead under the leather.
 

Villain

Semi-Pro
I've bought two GTs. And I got lucky, both are at 305gr, one is 32cm balance, while other is at 31.8cm.

Now, this doesn't suite me. I'm used to 30,5 to 31 balance (without strings). I thought about changing base grip with wilson leather grip. That would add about 10gr if I'm not mistaken? And what would the balance be like then? Has anyone tried this?
A leather grip will adjust towards a HL balance approximately two points. Just realize leather grips aren’t for everybody and there are heavier synthetic options out there that will achieve the same thing WRT balance without changing the grip feel.
 

c0ppo

New User
I've already used leather grips in the past, and always loved them.
So now, balance of my racket would drop from 32cm to 30cm (or so...)?

Well, I'm ordering wilson leather grips. Thanks for the assistance guys.
 

Villain

Semi-Pro
I've already used leather grips in the past, and always loved them.
So now, balance of my racket would drop from 32cm to 30cm (or so...)?

Well, I'm ordering wilson leather grips. Thanks for the assistance guys.
Balance won’t drop that much. A leather grip, if it’s 10 grams heavier than the stock grip, will change balance from 32 cm to about 31.3 cm (2 points). An over grip will move it further to about 31 cm depending on the weight of the grip.
 

nov

Rookie
Seems we have a near identical preference. I modded an MP and Tour to my preferred specs of 333g and 335SW. BP was 33.3mm (Tour) and 33.6mm (MP). Lynx Tour at 50lbs. Both felt similar to swing and I probably couldn’t tell which was which blindfolded.

However, they played with distinct differences. Easier spin generation and higher launch angle on the MP as expected given 16x19. Ball velocity was also faster for similar swingspeed of strokes with the MP. So to me, the MP is the more powerful of the two (ie: less effort needed to generate equivalent ballspeed, especially on serve and when hitting stretched on the run).

What was dramatically noticeable was the greater stability of the Tour, particularly when playing against harder hitting players. Probably down to the higher twistweight of the Tour. As others have posted, modding up an MP to Tour specs does not yield a Tour. They remain distinctly different racquets.

In the end, I much preferred the Tour and it’s now my main stick, and will likely remain for a long time. It suits my flatter stroke style, has a more stable hoop than the MP and has a nice plush feel reminiscent of classic HEAD racquets. The MP is also a really nice stick, and if the Tour didn’t exist, I’d be entirely happy using it instead. If your game is more modern and spin oriented, you’ll probably prefer the MP. But for someone like me who learned to play on grass in 1982, I’ll never quite learn how to play with heavy spin!

I don’t change my racquets often once I find something that works well. I used the Prestige Tour 600 for 20+yrs prior to switching to the Gravity Tour this year. At 50, I need a bit more help from the stick! I agree that power is highly subjective and depends on what you’re used to. Compared with the PT600, most of today’s sticks are cannons!
Im loving the Tour more every time i play with it. Its superior compared to MP i think. Only one downside it is a little bit more stiffer, probably due to 18 x 20 pattern. But its still comfortable frame.
 
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