Head IG Prestige Pro vs Wilson 95 (16x18)

[coolschreiber]

Using a couple of IG PP at the moment strung at 52 lbs, full poly.
Playing style: About 4.0, Play the baseline mostly and hit topspin groundies and use 1hbh. Though I am trying to develop an all court game by going into the net a lot more. I just find IGPP too headlight at times, so thinking if I should go for the wilson 95 (16x18), my one inhibition is the string pattern.
Any thoughts?

 

[qwertre]

Well, I haven't played with the IGPP, but purely based on numbers, the 6.1 95 will be way more headlight than the HEAD. If you don't like the headlight feel, the Wilson probably isn't a good way to go.

 

[coolschreiber]

Yes I see what you mean when we compare numbers literally. But still the swing weight of the Wilson is listed higher TW. But I guess numbers arent everything. Going just by playability the IG PP plays a lot lighter than it's listed weight. Sometimes I feel a hard hit ball kind of twists the racket head a little. I am hoping to get the opinion of somebody who plays with a 6.1 95 (16x18) on this matter. Better still if they have played with both.

 

[RetroSpin]

I think these are pretty similar racquets. Maybe a bit less string tension would make the PP play a little friendlier?

 

[wao]

Using a couple of IG PP at the moment strung at 52 lbs, full poly.
Playing style: About 4.0, Play the baseline mostly and hit topspin groundies and use 1hbh. Though I am trying to develop an all court game by going into the net a lot more. I just find IGPP too headlight at times, so thinking if I should go for the wilson 95 (16x18), my one inhibition is the string pattern.
Any thoughts?

Have you tried to add some lead weight to the head to get it more to your liking? I play with the IG PP. Realize depending on how much weight you add, you could experience some sluggishness at the net.

 

[coolschreiber]

Have you tried to add some lead weight to the head to get it more to your liking? I play with the IG PP. Realize depending on how much weight you add, you could experience some sluggishness at the net.

Did some reading, looks like a little lead at 3 and 9 positions should fix that little wobble I sometimes encounter on the backhand. Think I'll purchase the 1/4 inch lead tape. I have never used lead before so should be a very interesting experience. Ofcourse, I just want to add minimum possible to retain this rackets maneuverability. Would be interesting to hear from ig pp users on how much lead they apply and where.

 

[spinovic]

The 6.1 95 16x18 was quite a bit more powerful in my experience. I do think what you read into the SW plays out on the court. The Prestige played "lighter" to me. I actually liked the balance and SW of the PP better, but it felt a little stiff/boardy to me. Overall, I preferred the 6.1. Of course, that's based on brief demos where you really only get a decent initial impression of a racquet.

Just my 2 cents.

 

[prjacobs]

The 6.1 95 16x18 was quite a bit more powerful in my experience. I do think what you read into the SW plays out on the court. The Prestige played "lighter" to me. I actually liked the balance and SW of the PP better, but it felt a little stiff/boardy to me. Overall, I preferred the 6.1. Of course, that's based on brief demos where you really only get a decent initial impression of a racquet.

Just my 2 cents.

Finally, someone who's actually played with the two frames, rings in .
Hello my fellow forum members - the OP can guess himself .
Sorry - I just couldn't resist...

 

[spinovic]

Well - I'm no expert by any means, but I have demoed both and that's what I found in my experience. The Wilson did feel a little heavier, but I liked the HL balance of both. I preferred the PP when just considering the weight/balance/SW combo, i.e., how it swings. It was a little easier to whip around for me. However, I didn't need to whip the Wilson around as fast because the racquet itself was so much more powerful. It was a beast. I currently play with an Extreme Pro 2.0, which is a powerful racquet, but the Wilson 6.1 95 16x18 is easily the most powerful one I've played with. What I didn't like about it was its erratic response. One shot might go long and the next just right. That is ultimately why I chose the Extreme.

And, once again, my biggest issue with the PP was the boardy/stiff feel upon contact. Something that I think could be improved with string choice, but when demoing, that's not really an option.

 

[MikeHitsHard93]

Spinovic or others, how would you all compare the 6.1, prestige pro, extreme pro 2.0, and the pure drive roddick?

 

[coolschreiber]

Well - I'm no expert by any means, but I have demoed both and that's what I found in my experience. The Wilson did feel a little heavier, but I liked the HL balance of both. I preferred the PP when just considering the weight/balance/SW combo, i.e., how it swings. It was a little easier to whip around for me. However, I didn't need to whip the Wilson around as fast because the racquet itself was so much more powerful. It was a beast. I currently play with an Extreme Pro 2.0, which is a powerful racquet, but the Wilson 6.1 95 16x18 is easily the most powerful one I've played with. What I didn't like about it was its erratic response. One shot might go long and the next just right. That is ultimately why I chose the Extreme.

And, once again, my biggest issue with the PP was the boardy/stiff feel upon contact. Something that I think could be improved with string choice, but when demoing, that's not really an option.

Good point about the erratic response, TW review also emphasizes on that. If you ever get a chance again, try to play with a IG PP strung in lower 50's (with poly), it doesn't feel boardy at all, it makes very nice plush contact and you feel the ball actually pocket in the string bed.
Considering some previous responses as well I'm definitely going to experiment with lead at 3 and 9 of this racket. Much easier on the wallet than going out shopping for a new one.

 

[coolschreiber]

Spinovic or others, how would you all compare the 6.1, prestige pro, extreme pro 2.0, and the pure drive roddick?

Can't say about 6.1 95 or extreme pro but I have a PDR that I play with once in a while. In my view the best way to test a racket is to play in wind - both against the wind and with it on your back.

PDR -
Against the wind - No problem whatsoever! No matter what your opponent hits at you you will get it back deep.
With the wind - I tend to hit the short ball out a lot of times, even when there is no wind. Its a beast on the baseline but as soon as I get a short ball and I quickly hustle to take advantage of it, with adrenaline pumping ofcourse .. I tend to over hit lot of times. I have to make a conscious effort to measure my shot. But lot of times I'm too excited to think about that.

IG PP -
Against the wind - Again no problem, it gets the ball back in deep. Lot of credit goes to its head light balance. Easy generate racket head speed, even if you are off balance a little.
With the wind - and short balls, just with a little concentration you can find very good accuracy with this racket. I don't overhit with this one.

My only issue is sometimes on my 1hbh if I make contact 'just above' the sweetspot, the shot isn't great, just a loopy ball with no topspin. Ofcourse, I know I have to improve my technique. But I'm no pro so I'll try to cheat a little with adding some lead to minimize this effect.

Hope this helps.

 

[spinovic]

Spinovic or others, how would you all compare the 6.1, prestige pro, extreme pro 2.0, and the pure drive roddick?

I haven't played with a PDR, so I can only compare the others.

The PP isn't as powerful as the other two and it felt boards as I mentioned earlier. I believe that could be improved with strings and tension. The Prestige line is one of the best feeling racquets when just holding and taking swings. The weight, balance and SW feels superb.

The 6.1 is powerful and sometimes erratic. I also believe one could adjust to this one with more time and stringing choices.

The Extreme was simply my favorite of them. For me, it did everything well and made everything easier. It also was the softest feeling despite its stiffness rating. It gave me the forgiveness and power I needed with consistent response and control. The string pattern is pretty dense in the middle of the bed on this racquet, which I believe has much to do with its combo of power and control.

The Prestige is definitely the most demanding of the bunch.

Some people don't like the shape of the Extreme, but it never bothered me. Hope this helps.

 

[prjacobs]

Good point about the erratic response, TW review also emphasizes on that. If you ever get a chance again, try to play with a IG PP strung in lower 50's (with poly), it doesn't feel boardy at all, it makes very nice plush contact and you feel the ball actually pocket in the string bed.
Considering some previous responses as well I'm definitely going to experiment with lead at 3 and 9 of this racket. Much easier on the wallet than going out shopping for a new one.

Yes. The 16 X 18 version of the 6.1 95 is not an accurate frame. It launches balls all over the place.

 

[RetroSpin]

Spinovic or others, how would you all compare the 6.1, prestige pro, extreme pro 2.0, and the pure drive roddick?

I know this much. The PP is far better looking than any of the others. In fact, it may be the best looking frame around. The Extreme is well, extreme.

 

[spinovic]

I've been playing some with the Tecnifibre TFight 320 VO2Max lately and have really been liking it. I'm considering switching. It is similar to the 6.1 95 and the Extreme Pro, IMO. The power level suits me and it gives a more consistent response than the 6.1.

Anyone considering that "class/type" of racquet, should give that one a look, IMO. Similar to the Extreme head shape that bothers some, I've read where some are bothered by the TFight's "pingy" sound. Again, that hasn't been an issue to me. It is an excellent racquet. Listed at 95 in, it is more like 98-100.