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Which do you prefer?
Pretty certain could tell difference
- Orange firmest by far
- Champagne softer than Orange
- Grey softer than champagne
- Would be easy to tell orange from grey
- Would be more difficult to tell champagne from grey but think it would be possible
Sorry—if you really believe that, then you also believe in Santa Claus.Pretty certain could tell difference
- Orange firmest by far
- Champagne softer than Orange
- Grey softer than champagne
- Would be easy to tell orange from grey
- Would be more difficult to tell champagne from grey but think it would be possible
How obvious is the difference between the colors? I've heard interviews with the people who design and manufacture strings and they claim that while color has some impact on the playability of the strings, it is marginal at best.
If there were a way to do blind tests with the different colors, would you be able to tell the difference between them?
To nitpick, just mathematically, 2g of extra weight in the string bed don't add 8 SW (more like 4-5).So Lynx tour mains and Truffle X added 2 grams and 8 SW pts.
Measurement inaccuracy would be my guess.You're probably correct, but how then are the balance and static weight the same? One racket having added 2GM at 12 with O-Toro and the Lynx Tour racket with no added weight in the hoop? If they measure out to be clones now, wouldn't one assume that the SW is the same? Is it the position of weight at 12?
Still a signifinant bump in swingweight that should affect performance. I suspect that one of the reasons I gelled with Lynx Tour so well was the marginal increase in swingweight.To nitpick, just mathematically, 2g of extra weight in the string bed don't add 8 SW (more like 4-5).
I even doubt 2g of weight across the entire string bed add 4-5 SW, seeing that 2g on the hoop at 12 add about 6.5 SW.To nitpick, just mathematically, 2g of extra weight in the string bed don't add 8 SW (more like 4-5).
I was a bit generous since his stick is extended.I even doubt 2g of weight across the entire string bed add 4-5 SW, seeing that 2g on the hoop at 12 add about 6.5 SW.
You can average around the center of the stringbed (also where most of the strings are). There it's around 2 * added weight in g for SW increase. Racquet shape matters some too.Where's a decent mathematician when you need one. 3-4,5 SW should be in the ball park.
In my Percept 100D, 2g of string weight equaled 3sw pts measured on BriffidiI was a bit generous since his stick is extended.
You can average around the center of the stringbed (also where most of the strings are). There it's around 2 * added weight in g for SW increase. Racquet shape matters some too.
I've been a Poly Tour Pro guy forever but want to try Lynx Tour now!!Played mostly round strings over my tennis career. This list includes using Hawk Power which was referenced. Switched to Lynx Tour cause I feel and think it's a superior string. I'm allowed to have an opinion lol
M8 is a wonderful cross string if you want something lively, I also used it with a smooth poly main.I was using Sniper mains before I switched to gray HLT and with M8 I had a lot of power. I was playing into the wind in 52 degrees and the ball was just going over. The same racket, with Sniper mains and Alu crosses hit the tape a lot. Then I went go play indoors and the M8 was just too lively. Also, since they are both shaped strings, I did not feel a consistent rebound off the strings. When I'm home on the sofa I'll do backhand keepy up volleys and with M8 crosses the ball struggled to go straight up, it bounced at an angle. With smooth crosses it goes straight up. Is this scientific, not really. With HLT and Hyper G round, the ball bounces even straighter than Sniper/Alu. My next cross will be silver Hawk.I've never had an issue with stiff strings before, so I'm not entirely sure what the issue is. Worst case is I'll throw in Tour M8 as a cross and leave the mains. I honestly wasn't that impressed with this string the first time out- it felt launchy without that much predictability, and it died when I didn't fully commit, which was hard to do given the launchiness. Maybe it lost too much tension from my dropweight. I could see how someone could like this at higher tensions in a soft racket though.
There was something odd with the HLT/M8 combo. It had the power of a full bed of M8, but not the spin. Once I go back to a full bed of M8, it plays great again. I think I just prefer strings with more snapback and a lower launch.M8 is a wonderful cross string if you want something lively, I also used it with a smooth poly main.I was using Sniper mains before I switched to gray HLT and with M8 I had a lot of power. I was playing into the wind in 52 degrees and the ball was just going over. The same racket, with Sniper mains and Alu crosses hit the tape a lot. Then I went go play indoors and the M8 was just too lively. Also, since they are both shaped strings, I did not feel a consistent rebound off the strings. When I'm home on the sofa I'll do backhand keepy up volleys and with M8 crosses the ball struggled to go straight up, it bounced at an angle. With smooth crosses it goes straight up. Is this scientific, not really. With HLT and Hyper G round, the ball bounces even straighter than Sniper/Alu. My next cross will be silver Hawk.
What is over-tension?[img=600]
Static stiffness for Orange and Grey are same, champagne is softer, but its not the best indicator of comfort in some cases. Dynamic stiffness is linked to the over-tension the string experiences at impact: the greater the over-tension, the greater the shock transmitted. This is where real comfort comes into play. By looking at the dynamic stiffness, Grey will feel more comfortable than champagne, even though static stiffness is higher. Orange will be least comfortable with the highest shock transmitted on impact. This is for the 1.30mm Lynx tour.
It is the measurement of simulated deflection force of the string at impact of the ball.What is over-tension?
Is comfort directly correlated to arm pain and health? If so, which would be the most comfortable color in the Lynx Tour family?[img=600]
Static stiffness for Orange and Grey are same, champagne is softer, but its not the best indicator of comfort in some cases. Dynamic stiffness is linked to the over-tension the string experiences at impact: the greater the over-tension, the greater the shock transmitted. This is where real comfort comes into play. By looking at the dynamic stiffness, Grey will feel more comfortable than champagne, even though static stiffness is higher. Orange will be least comfortable with the highest shock transmitted on impact. This is for the 1.30mm Lynx tour.
This was my findings exactly when I played them side by side. Glad to see more folks agreeing with my findings, cause like you said the information is quite contradictory lolThis thread is full of contradictory opinions on which color of LT is stiffest. Of course this is totally subjective and specific to each user.
So I spent the last two weeks testing the 1.25 Champagne and Grey HLT at the same reference tensions in matched frames and have come to the conclusion that the Champagne is a touch stiffer. Playing with the champagne felt slightly stiffer and according to my ERT had a higher DT off the stringer. It also held tension slightly better throughout the playtest. There are a lot of variables and of course my opinion is totally subjective, but I ended up liking the grey version better. A fraction more comfortable and pocketing. The grey didn’t have the same break-in period that the champagne does. Other than that they played pretty much the same.
Would love to hear some feedback on this ?Sorry but I cannot find the answer to how the champagne lynx tour 1.30 plays differently to the 1.25mm champagne
Anyone played with both and comment on playability , feel and spin and durability ?
I see lots of discussion of the string on this forum and ask myself whether the string is as popular in the real world as it is on the forum, or whether this bubble doesn't necessarily represent the real world.
Do you guys see this string on the courts regularly?
I played a lot with full beds of orange 1.25 and champagne 1.30. Didn't play side by side but playability is roughly the same. Durability of 1.25 was aporox 5.5 hours and the 1.30 6.5 hours until breakage.Sorry but I cannot find the answer to how the champagne lynx tour 1.30 plays differently to the 1.25mm champagne
Anyone played with both and comment on playability , feel and spin and durability ?
What surprises me here isn't that the color play similarly; I'd expect that considering that the coloring has but a marginal impact as per the developers. I'm more surprised that the different gauges played similarly. Usually, gauges have a significant impact on playing characteristics. At the very least, it would impact the swingweight considering the higher weight of the 1.30 over the 1.25.I played a lot with full beds of orange 1.25 and champagne 1.30. Didn't play side by side but playability is roughly the same. Durability of 1.25 was aporox 5.5 hours and the 1.30 6.5 hours until breakage.
It's a lot of difference. You need to play it back to back with the same racket with a smaller gauge. Lynx Tour especially, since it's a heavy string. I can't use the 1.25mm because it made the whole racket face heavy, but love the 1.20mmi cannot feel the difference in swingweight with a 0.05mm thicker string really, and even if i could it wouldn't have any impact![]()
You're saying that the same racquet measured 5 swingweight points higher with Lynx Tour 1.25 than with Hawk Touch 1.25? What a dramatic result!Same racket and same sw machine. With lynx tour 1.25 racket was 3g heavier and 5 more sw. String before was hawk touch 1.25..
What racquet, pattern? Briffiti? 5 SW seems a lot but I'll take it.Same racket and same sw machine. With lynx tour 1.25 racket was 3g heavier and 5 more sw. String before was hawk touch 1.25..
Wow that's a lot! Are all colours the same heavy weight?Yes, Speed MP Legend 2025 16x19. SW was measured on a Head 3 in 1 machine.
Weight was measured at home.
Currently have alu power so will measure again when I find time.
Only string I hate after stringing and yes, for me 22/21 or even lower.Wow that's a lot! Are all colours the same heavy weight?
On other note, I think Lynx tour performs best below 22 kilos.
The string plays fantastic but it needs some time to settle, I don't like going into matches with fresh strings
You can divide the amount of swingweight the strings added, by the amount of weight the strings added and you will get a number somewhere around 1.5-1.9. That's a pretty close estimate to how much swingweight per gram of string.Same racket and same sw machine. With lynx tour 1.25 racket was 3g heavier and 5 more sw. String before was hawk touch 1.25..