Head Pro Tour 2.0 - Ask Us All Your Questions! (podcast now here!)

Faris

Professional
Believe it or not, the average of those is 64! I don't think I'd be able to tell the 1 RA difference and it certainly wouldn't hinder me from purchasing one.. or two... ;)
Average is 64.56 if you add six measurements from TWE above as well along with 10 from TW (so if you really want to get technical here it is closer to 65 than 64 ;)). That is offcourse if you believe TW machine is accurate. I do believe it is but the guys you tagged have mentioned in this thread earlier multiple times that they don't. Just fyi)..

@TW Staff Jon would be great as the page updates and we get a better sample size. Thanks..

And sure, one point here or there is understandable and doesn't matter. Already ordered mine last week. RA never shows whole picture and so many other factors in play..
 

TW Staff

Administrator
Average is 64.56 if you add six measurements from TWE above as well along with 10 from TW (so if you really want to get technical here it is closer to 65 than 64 ;)). That is offcourse if you believe TW machine is accurate. I do believe it is but the guys you tagged have mentioned in this thread earlier multiple times that they don't. Just fyi)..

@TW Staff Jon would be great as the page updates and we get a better sample size. Thanks..

And sure, one point here or there is understandable and doesn't matter. Already ordered mine last week. RA never shows whole picture and so many other factors in play..

Yup, I will provide updates after I get more sticks. So far, from all the feedback we've received from folks with RDC machines, the range is 63-67. Given how quickly RDC machines slip out of calibration (especially if they are heavily used and the memory isn't routinely cleaned), it's not surprising to see this kind of range. I may send a couple sticks to my old colleagues at the USRSA to see what their machine is getting. Either way, though, the vibration frequency measured by the TWU professor is low. This is a flexible frame. Once I find a 62 or 61, I will save it.

Jon
 

dak95_00

Hall of Fame
Yup, I will provide updates after I get more sticks. So far, from all the feedback we've received from folks with RDC machines, the range is 63-67. Given how quickly RDC machines slip out of calibration (especially if they are heavily used and the memory isn't routinely cleaned), it's not surprising to see this kind of range. I may send a couple sticks to my old colleagues at the USRSA to see what their machine is getting. Either way, though, the vibration frequency measured by the TWU professor is low. This is a flexible frame. Once I find a 62 or 61, I will save it.

Jon
What about the replacement grommets? Will there be more?
 

sanister

Professional
Yup, I will provide updates after I get more sticks. So far, from all the feedback we've received from folks with RDC machines, the range is 63-67. Given how quickly RDC machines slip out of calibration (especially if they are heavily used and the memory isn't routinely cleaned), it's not surprising to see this kind of range. I may send a couple sticks to my old colleagues at the USRSA to see what their machine is getting. Either way, though, the vibration frequency measured by the TWU professor is low. This is a flexible frame. Once I find a 62 or 61, I will save it.

Jon
I'll post my specs very soon as well Jon. I have a freshly calibrated RDC at home so hopefully that helps & gives a better idea too along with others who have posted their measurements. I agree that they need to be calibrated after heavy use. Great that we are all chipping in and excited for this lovely racquet.More power to everyone.
 

Val-Dieu

New User
Hi all ! I’m really excited about PT2.0 but I’ve got few questions for the lucky ones who already have it ! I really like Andy Murray play style and always wanted a PT57A so I want to know if this frame give similar sensation as PT57A. Thanks for your answers !
 

Val-Dieu

New User
Really ? It’s a really good news ! I’m just disapointed about the stringing plan I would prefer 16x19 but if the difference isn’t that big I’ll buy this for sure :)
 

jdeloach

Hall of Fame
Seems to get along with the others so far....
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jdeloach

Hall of Fame
Before I start hitting the 2.0, how should I string it up? Here are some I have, but I need to order some more so I can get anything.
Ghost Wire, Klip Gut, Hyper-G, RPM Blast. I know for sure I am gonna try the VS/Ice Code that was suggested, but want to try more.
I really love a comfortable string and love to get to the net as early as possible, so that may help in any recommendations.
 

McGradey

Hall of Fame
I think Hyper-G will work great, it will just look kinda ugly because of the colour clash
I'm thinking of going with Tour Bite 17 or Alu Power Rough
 

Grieeegoorr

Semi-Pro
Really ? It’s a really good news ! I’m just disapointed about the stringing plan I would prefer 16x19 but if the difference isn’t that big I’ll buy this for sure :)
It's going to be your technique which will really bring the spin, ultra thin shaped/edged poly strung low will help. It'll also save you some swing weight which you could redistribute at 12 o'clock to help a bit more with the spin.
 
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Deleted member 766578

Guest
Just been looking at the Tennis Only website and it seems they've sold out of every grip size except 41/2. The only one they're still listing.

If worst comes to worst, they also sell pallets so you'd just have to spend another $15-20 to make it your grip size (if they don't decide to stock anymore)
 

djNEiGht

Legend
Before I start hitting the 2.0, how should I string it up? Here are some I have, but I need to order some more so I can get anything.
Ghost Wire, Klip Gut, Hyper-G, RPM Blast. I know for sure I am gonna try the VS/Ice Code that was suggested, but want to try more.
I really love a comfortable string and love to get to the net as early as possible, so that may help in any recommendations.

Klip/ghost IMO

Personally I’d string it with synthetic first to get an honest feel for the racquet. It then helps me decide what strings and tension to go with next.
 

jackcrawford

Professional
Haha, stop it :). Why not the new layup (360+ like) in new sticks... life goes on
I also love Heads new paint schemes (next extreme is totally awesome looking frame)
Yes - quite possibly in 2044 there will be a Gravity Pro 360+ 2.0 and the thread will have posts about if there is as much Spiral Fiber content in the reissue as the original, and whether at 64 stiffness vs 62 in the original it is worth buying!
 

dr325i

G.O.A.T.
PS2.0 feels good no matter if the RA is 65 or 63. It is nearly impossible to feel a RA difference of 2 points.
As I pointed out multiple times, the layup in this one is so well balanced, that it feels like the classic stick but crisper. So stable, great plow through, great feedback and does everything well. Head put a lot of time and trials to get to that point and they did an awesome job! I guess we do not appreciate how much science and complexity and trial and error is involved with every (new) layup...
 

Lavs

Hall of Fame
As I pointed out multiple times, the layup in this one is so well balanced, that it feels like the classic stick but crisper. So stable, great plow through, great feedback and does everything well. Head put a lot of time and trials to get to that point and they did an awesome job! I guess we do not appreciate how much science and complexity and trial and error is involved with every (new) layup...
I wonder then why the price of PT2.0 is 50€ lower than Prestige or Gravity... :cool:
 

sanister

Professional
Well both of mine are in & these racquts are beautiful I tell you! Haven't seen this nice of a blue paint in a long long time. Paint is is identical to pt280 and specs inside throat too obviously.My kids too seem mildly curious.They all play & have never shown interest in my tennis gear so this is huge!!Anyways my rdc readings are

340.1/328/32.4
341.2/329/32.3

RA for those who wanna know top one is 65 and bottom ones 64.

They have Lynx rite now but I will likely switch to full gut just to remind me of those days I used to feel invincible or maybe gut mains & lux crosses.Will update here once i hit with them some!!
 

Addxyz

Hall of Fame
Well both of mine are in & these racquts are beautiful I tell you! Haven't seen this nice of a blue paint in a long long time. Paint is is identical to pt280 and specs inside throat too obviously.My kids too seem mildly curious.They all play & have never shown interest in my tennis gear so this is huge!!Anyways my rdc readings are

340.1/328/32.4
341.2/329/32.3

RA for those who wanna know top one is 65 and bottom ones 64.

They have Lynx rite now but I will likely switch to full gut just to remind me of those days I used to feel invincible or maybe gut mains & lux crosses.Will update here once i hit with them some!!

so the SW didn't even hit 330? is Lynx super light?
 

aehjmeyer

Rookie
Somewhat off topic (apologies)...but as more 2.0s start arriving, I’d appreciate if anyone can offer a few words comparing their 2.0 to the Angell K7 Lime.
 

sanister

Professional
so the SW didn't even hit 330? is Lynx super light?
Yep on sw, But my pt280 swings exactly same so Im expecting really good things with this one! Lynx btw weighs same as rs lyon 17 which Ive used a lot in past in my angells so that probably isn't it.Your post got me curious so I just went went back & seems @Strange hit reported very similar numbers as me so swing weight seems in acceptable range.
 

blablavla

G.O.A.T.
I wonder then why the price of PT2.0 is 50€ lower than Prestige or Gravity... :cool:

one can throw many ideas for both directions:
- sell them at higher price
- sell them at cheaper price

but let me make some assumptions
1. Head knows how many units of Agassi special edition they sold
2. Head knows how many PT57A and other pro stock they are producing, and what is "leaking" from various auction sites is already in those numbers
3. Essentially 1 SKU. Sure various grip sizes, but what if the grip pallets are assembled at the warehouse, before dispatching the shipment to tennis warehouse for example? this means relative low cost of manufacturing as the factory has to deal with 1 single frame. A sweet bonus is reduced complexity across supply chain which again translates into relatively low costs of running this SKU
4. Launch investment. Virtually zero investment, just leave this part to TTW forum

5. Probably zero endorsements that have to covered from this frame
yes, if it cannibalizes sales of Gravity or Speed or Prestige or other line then it's a problem.
but, the combination of static weight and SW and head size -> it's not gonna steal users from Gravity or Extreme or Speed, probably not really from Prestige
so, as long as this is "occasional" business -> it's probably poised to bring only additional sales with almost no risk of cannibalization

6. Given the current situation, a higher price tag might have killed the sales of the frame
I know that the pro stock sells much higher, but as mentioned earlier, probably Head knows the number of frames that can be sold at that price point, as those frames "leak" from Head production.
So, if they manufacture 100 units of PT57A per year, that is probably the potential to sell at 1000 EUR / USD per unit, while a production run, that will keep the manufacturing cost down, might require 50'000 units or 100'000 units.
 
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