Head Pro Tour 2.0 - Ask Us All Your Questions! (podcast now here!)

dr325i said:
I disagree. The Gravity, Speed, Prestige 360+ all feel great and MUCH improved over the previous Graphene (and even Innegra) feels...
Definitely the right direction...
The PT2.0 has nothing to do with the Graphene in the layup
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The previous Graphenes were pretty bad in terms of feel, plushness etc, so it doesn't take much for there to be an improvement. I've owned every generation and whilst 360+ is an improvement, its still got that disconnected hollowness (not least because the racquets are actually hollow). If the PT 2.0 is like that, you'd be better off buying an original PT630.
 
6august said:
Any photo yet?
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1) When is the release date pushed back to?
2) Have any layup changes been made in comparison to the original and if so what are they and for what purpose?
3) Will it be an 18x20 only or will there be different patterns?
4) Will it be a single model released or will this be an entire line?
5) What are the specs?


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Many years waiting for this.
I really do not need it, since I have 5 PT630 MIA, but I would like other colleagues to enjoy this authentic player racket.
It could also be the beginning of other reissues of Head's 80s and 90s classics, without a doubt the best rackets in history (IMO)
The big question is if they come close in performance to the originals.

Good luck
 
I appreciate the fact that Murray uses a different string pattern in the PT57A, but I just don't see Head releasing the 16x19 version of this. I'm just happy they've ostensibly listened to the vocal minority and released a classic frame. Even if it's not EXACTLY like the OG, it's still a welcome announcement.

Wilson brought back the 6.0 85
Dunlop brought back the MW200G and HM300G
Prince keeps the POG around

Now Head joins the party. It's nice to see in a world gone hollow and tinny.
 
Lavs said:
why it will be limited in stock? not enough twaron?
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To sell at a ridiculous price, then release again at customers' request and go on...

If the quality is as good as the old PT280 then it's safe to say that it's even better than some prostocks now.
 
As others asked already, what are the changes from the original version? That "2.0" - if that's its official code - doesn't really suggest an actual reissue (as happened instead a few years ago on TW with the Wilson PS85).
 
I would love to have Pro Tour 2.0 in the new paintjob. Could be mostly black/darkred.

95"
18x20 or 16x19
RA between 57-61
320g (unstrung)
310mm (balance point)
SW between 320-325

Available for Europe ASAP.
 
I too want to know when it will be available.
I will buy one just to see how it plays compared to my MIA PT 630's. If it's close in terms of feel and performance I will be happy and buy more. They certainly will be better than all the racquets Head put out recently with Graphene.
 
I'm also curious about this Pro Tour 2.0 how it compares to my Wilson Ultra Tours and the Graphene 360+ Prestige MP.
Besides the specs already mentioned into this thread I would like to know the RA stiffness as well.
Which grip pallets does the PT 2.0 have? The TK82 or TK82S ones?
Will it also be available by TW Europe?
 
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No chance to get the exact materials as 30 years ago ! So same layup is simply not possible. There will always be a different feel.
 
legrandLeconte said:
I use this and many other classic rackets.
For a veteran school player these racquets are suitable and easy to handle, they really are their natural racquets.
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LGLeconte...I agree totally. I‘m turning 60, and play mostly with a seriously old PT280 with a 630 backup (MIAs). For some reason the 280 gives me a little more pinpoint accuracy than the 630, especially on serves (maybe a touch stiffer). I customized them to match at 360g, 335SW, 32bal. I sometimes use my old PS85 SVs when all the stars align with my footwork, timing, vision, etc. (P85s are sniper rifles if the conditions are right). Also still have and use real (old) POGs as well. When I’ve lent any of these to a 4.5/4.0 30-something or millennial, they hit hilariously late and short, or shank frame trying to Rafa it, or dump it into the bottom of the net. Usually they stare at the racket and ask, “how can you hit with this, this, this, THING?” I have yet to find anyone under 50 who will give a classic player racket a serious tryout over a few weeks or months. I bought a few nextgen rackets on various whims, and I play with them on occasion, but only when I’m feeling ridiculously lazy or hungover, and want to pretend I can still generate serious RHS (which I can’t really do any more for longer than a set, without taking massive anti-inflammatories). I can still swing long OR fast, just not long and fast. If I have to pick between the two, swinging long strokes (with heavier racket) but slower RHS is easier on my bod. So I think heavy, low RA rackets are perfect for us old geezers, provided we have a lifetime of tennis in our bones. I will probably buy at least one of these PT2.0s (without a demo) if the TW and you TTW gurus say they have ANY kind of a retro feel. I’ve demo’d most of the latest 18x20 offerings also, but I haven’t fallen in love with any one enough to buy. When my 280 cracks, or my body can no longer wield a 360g warclub, I’ll ask for advice and spend another 3 months doing demos.
 
Thiem's 1HB said:
Will this racquet make me better than Thomas Muster?
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lol Thiem1HB ... Not better at tennis, but maybe better at something else. Gardening? I heard Thomas is a horrible gardener. Btw Muster lost one of his last matches at the spry age of 44 to ... wait for it ... young Dom Thiem.
 
Grinch said:
LGLeconte...I agree totally. I‘m turning 60, and play mostly with a seriously old PT280 with a 630 backup (MIAs). For some reason the 280 gives me a little more pinpoint accuracy than the 630, especially on serves (maybe a touch stiffer). I customized them to match at 360g, 335SW, 32bal. I sometimes use my old PS85 SVs when all the stars align with my footwork, timing, vision, etc. (P85s are sniper rifles if the conditions are right). Also still have and use real (old) POGs as well. When I’ve lent any of these to a 4.5/4.0 30-something or millennial, they hit hilariously late and short, or shank frame trying to Rafa it, or dump it into the bottom of the net. Usually they stare at the racket and ask, “how can you hit with this, this, this, THING?” I have yet to find anyone under 50 who will give a classic player racket a serious tryout over a few weeks or months. I bought a few nextgen rackets on various whims, and I play with them on occasion, but only when I’m feeling ridiculously lazy or hungover, and want to pretend I can still generate serious RHS (which I can’t really do any more for longer than a set, without taking massive anti-inflammatories). I can still swing long OR fast, just not long and fast. If I have to pick between the two, swinging long strokes (with heavier racket) but slower RHS is easier on my bod. So I think heavy, low RA rackets are perfect for us old geezers, provided we have a lifetime of tennis in our bones. I will probably buy at least one of these PT2.0s (without a demo) if the TW and you TTW gurus say they have ANY kind of a retro feel. I’ve demo’d most of the latest 18x20 offerings also, but I haven’t fallen in love with any one enough to buy. When my 280 cracks, or my body can no longer wield a 360g warclub, I’ll ask for advice and spend another 3 months doing demos.
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I agree totally .
Some young players don't understand that these are our racquets.
I also use besides the pt630, ps85, max200g, pt600, rt630, f200carbon, pk ba98, pro cynetic1 and many other classics especially head.
I am not able to play with the current ones: they do not give me precision or feel.
 
Grinch said:
LGLeconte...I agree totally. I‘m turning 60, and play mostly with a seriously old PT280 with a 630 backup (MIAs). For some reason the 280 gives me a little more pinpoint accuracy than the 630, especially on serves (maybe a touch stiffer). I customized them to match at 360g, 335SW, 32bal. I sometimes use my old PS85 SVs when all the stars align with my footwork, timing, vision, etc. (P85s are sniper rifles if the conditions are right). Also still have and use real (old) POGs as well. When I’ve lent any of these to a 4.5/4.0 30-something or millennial, they hit hilariously late and short, or shank frame trying to Rafa it, or dump it into the bottom of the net. Usually they stare at the racket and ask, “how can you hit with this, this, this, THING?” I have yet to find anyone under 50 who will give a classic player racket a serious tryout over a few weeks or months. I bought a few nextgen rackets on various whims, and I play with them on occasion, but only when I’m feeling ridiculously lazy or hungover, and want to pretend I can still generate serious RHS (which I can’t really do any more for longer than a set, without taking massive anti-inflammatories). I can still swing long OR fast, just not long and fast. If I have to pick between the two, swinging long strokes (with heavier racket) but slower RHS is easier on my bod. So I think heavy, low RA rackets are perfect for us old geezers, provided we have a lifetime of tennis in our bones. I will probably buy at least one of these PT2.0s (without a demo) if the TW and you TTW gurus say they have ANY kind of a retro feel. I’ve demo’d most of the latest 18x20 offerings also, but I haven’t fallen in love with any one enough to buy. When my 280 cracks, or my body can no longer wield a 360g warclub, I’ll ask for advice and spend another 3 months doing demos.
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Great post.

I played a session with a guy (he's 50 something) who collects wooden racquets and plays woodie tournaments across Europe. He could not believe it's my first time hitting/playing a set with wooden frame. I told him I developed my game using classic graphite midsizes (Fischer Vacuum Mid, PS85, PS90...I'm in mid 30s, started to play in my mid 20s) so even though I usually hit more "modern" with sticks I play right now, I don't find it particularly hard to switch to longer, smoother strokes. Made sense to him but he said it's still unusual since most younger guys he knows can't do that. That surprised me a bit but after reading your post, I guess it's not that uncommon after all.
 
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