Head Pro Tour 2.0 - Ask Us All Your Questions! (podcast now here!)
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Slick Tennis
Rookie
Ok, interesting. Might be a question of feel. A friend of mine barely feels the difference between the tk82 and 82s where to me it’s a world of difference (I much prefer the traditional TK82). With comments shared by playtesters and some knowledgeable folks on this board, it sounds like it has the traditional pallet.
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Deleted member 766578
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Yeah nah it's an TK82 apologies, edited my message above - i used to have a TK82 in grip 4, and it felt very weird to me, but having this at grip 2 i feel no difference at all
TW Staff
Administrator
Yep, that's all I bring to the table
"Pros have been playing with this same mold for years"
Michelle’s only contribution to the podcast is that if you can swing it you’re hot
Thanks for listening!
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PT630Wannabe
Professional
The mass of the racquet will give you power if you take a full swing.
nohandedbackhand
Semi-Pro
pverissimo
New User
I have a question. What was the level of implication of some TT users on this launch?
TW Staff
Administrator
@nohandedbackhand
Thanks for the love and reminder
We appreciate you guys as well! And love that you guys geek out as much as we do Michelle, TW
Addxyz
Hall of Fame
Are the pallets on this going to be changeable?
McGradey
Hall of Fame
For sure. I miss my 6.1 95's mass–power. Quietly hoping this PT2.0 might provide all the things I love about the 6.1 in a slightly lighter, sexier package.
And if not, I'll just hang it on the wall and ogle the paint.
Shangri La
Hall of Fame
Honestly I could probably buy into the 65 feeling a lot softer, especially with that great swingweight; this doesn't sound like a recreation of any one of the PT280/630/57 variants so much a as a hybrid of several of them in retail form. Maybe it plays like a slightly softer i.Prestige? If so I'd be pretty happy. Not sure if this has been asked already, but I'd love to know if it's foam-filled. Has anyone popped the buttcap off to check yet?
I dont see TWEU multi-racquet discount now
it's gone now. it was at 120 euros when buying 2+
MasterZeb
Legend
I did. But idk if I can take that risk. I’ve had a pretty bad history with tendinosis
johndajohn
New User
Accidentally went a bit too crazy with this release, but that’s fine.
love the pro tour 630 and the infamous Pro stock PT57A.
love the pro tour 630 and the infamous Pro stock PT57A.
djNEiGht
Legend
about 17 grams
MasterZeb
Legend
Unstrung I think
strung
galain
Hall of Fame
I appreciate the trouble somebody has gone to in order to get us this run. Still one of the prettiest paintjobs of the past few decades, but at 65RA I won't be pulling the trigger. I hope everyone else who's bought one (or two) enjoys them. It was always about feel with my PT630 and if it's not even close to my stick in terms of flex I can't imagine it'd feel similar at all.
Strange hit
Rookie
Would'nt the PT 2.0 feel and play close to the LM Radical tour?
tennistiger
Professional
There must be issues in the production? Measured RA strung:
Tennismagazin 1993: 59
Tennismagazin 1995: 55
Tennisrevue 1993: 63
TW Staff: Does it have the Integrated Damping System IDS ?
lucieisland
Semi-Pro
I think you have to know how to moderate a little ..
ask several questions
for me there are three types of people interested in this PT630 2.0
the first part, those who have already played with this frame and liked the impression of softness that it gives off. and who will be disappointed with 2.0
the second who has never played with PT630 MIA twaron, but who say that if it is such a sought after frame (for what reasons?) is that it must be really good. those there, will necessarily find this 2.0 great .. because it will be a great frame. what many have been asking for a long time (a commercial version of a modern PT67)
Finally, the 3rd category which says that this frame has served as a mold for so many pro stock head frames, that necessarily, it must be super good .. and will have exactly what they expect. and will be happy with it.
so, my opinion.
I think those who know the PT630, and who are looking to have the same thing. and not something else, as if you like ground beef steak, and you were served a beef-colored beef-flavored soy steak !. it will look like it, maybe, it will have the shape, the color, but it will only be an imitation and not the taste, not the texture. but will it be disgusting? no! a bit like the radical anniversary tour compared to the original radical tour. the same color, the same shape, the same weight, but inside, it's not the same !. (I tried both, mine (v 2018) and the original (v 1993), it looks like it, a lot, in the hand, it's the same thing, on the court, it's not all the same thing. the 2018 v is drier, less soft, .. there is something different.
I'm afraid the PT630 2.0 is also different.
my brother played quite a bit with PT630, and one day he praised one. he then tried to find one, it was complicated, he then tried to buy on a well-known site that sells pro stock, a PT57, with a PJ prestige XT I think. on paper all the same (prestige a bit heavier). but on the ground he found it to be an eyesore (compared to his second PT630). from there to say that the pro stock PT57 was zero, no .. just that it played different. it was not a PT630!
there, I think it's a bit the same principle.
we make a PT630. but it is not a PT630.
head maybe should (pu?) make a PT57, with an 18/20 plan, and call it pt57 ... instead of misleading people on an interpretation of the original PT630 .. (like the radical tour anniversary version is only an interpretation of the original radical tour.
ask several questions
for me there are three types of people interested in this PT630 2.0
the first part, those who have already played with this frame and liked the impression of softness that it gives off. and who will be disappointed with 2.0
the second who has never played with PT630 MIA twaron, but who say that if it is such a sought after frame (for what reasons?) is that it must be really good. those there, will necessarily find this 2.0 great .. because it will be a great frame. what many have been asking for a long time (a commercial version of a modern PT67)
Finally, the 3rd category which says that this frame has served as a mold for so many pro stock head frames, that necessarily, it must be super good .. and will have exactly what they expect. and will be happy with it.
so, my opinion.
I think those who know the PT630, and who are looking to have the same thing. and not something else, as if you like ground beef steak, and you were served a beef-colored beef-flavored soy steak !. it will look like it, maybe, it will have the shape, the color, but it will only be an imitation and not the taste, not the texture. but will it be disgusting? no! a bit like the radical anniversary tour compared to the original radical tour. the same color, the same shape, the same weight, but inside, it's not the same !. (I tried both, mine (v 2018) and the original (v 1993), it looks like it, a lot, in the hand, it's the same thing, on the court, it's not all the same thing. the 2018 v is drier, less soft, .. there is something different.
I'm afraid the PT630 2.0 is also different.
my brother played quite a bit with PT630, and one day he praised one. he then tried to find one, it was complicated, he then tried to buy on a well-known site that sells pro stock, a PT57, with a PJ prestige XT I think. on paper all the same (prestige a bit heavier). but on the ground he found it to be an eyesore (compared to his second PT630). from there to say that the pro stock PT57 was zero, no .. just that it played different. it was not a PT630!
there, I think it's a bit the same principle.
we make a PT630. but it is not a PT630.
head maybe should (pu?) make a PT57, with an 18/20 plan, and call it pt57 ... instead of misleading people on an interpretation of the original PT630 .. (like the radical tour anniversary version is only an interpretation of the original radical tour.
DJ-
Hall of Fame
@vsbabolat @dr325i is it possible to change full cap grommets of this pt 2.0 to non full cap grommets to lower swingweight? And if so, which ones? Tx
DJ-
Hall of Fame
Agreed, deliberately lists 20 in a row to cover the search page, but people are aware and recognise his a.) high prices, and b.) that ugly brown carpet lol
Good luck to him selling them for those prices when TW have them hahaha
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
Yes, I’d suggest the TK231 grommets - MG Radical MP
It will shave off about 10g of static weight. Not sure how much of SW
smalahove
Hall of Fame
RA is just an indicator of how you perceive frame stiffness.
Another metric that is just as important, is the vibration frequency.
The PT 2.0 has a low vibration frequency of 136 hz.
And if you look at through the list, you'll see that TT favorites like the IG Prestige, Youtek and Microgel MP and Mid, all have much higher vibration frequency numbers, and only a few have slightly lower RA.
Ime, vibration frequency is a much better indicator of perceived frame stiffness than RA.
I'm getting one for sure, as for me, there's no clear correlation between (super) low frame stiffness and the illustrious holy grail feel.
Another metric that is just as important, is the vibration frequency.
The PT 2.0 has a low vibration frequency of 136 hz.
And if you look at through the list, you'll see that TT favorites like the IG Prestige, Youtek and Microgel MP and Mid, all have much higher vibration frequency numbers, and only a few have slightly lower RA.
Ime, vibration frequency is a much better indicator of perceived frame stiffness than RA.
I'm getting one for sure, as for me, there's no clear correlation between (super) low frame stiffness and the illustrious holy grail feel.
Thank you! it would not matter the beam of MG radical is 22 and PT 2.0 is 20??
vsbabolat
Talk Tennis Guru
I was lucky to receive a Pro Tour 2.0 about a week ago. Strung with a leather grip that I put on, I get 63RA on my Babolat RDC machine. TW’s RDC machine is always higher than my RDC machine. After having played with it 63RA feels right to me. It’s pretty plush and not harsh playing. It’s got that 57A DNA in there
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Bud
Bionic Poster
My PT630 felt very similar to the LMRT
dgoran
Hall of Fame
Current Blade will feel touch softer but pt will be more precise sweet spot easier to finish points with and more stable.Just compared to the Blade as it's my current racquet. The twistweight on the PT2.0 stands out as beefy
dgoran
Hall of Fame
Which one do you prefer at this point? New Prestige or PT2.0?
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
It will fit nicely. Those Radical TK231 grommets are very soft and nicely sit on the frame.
I used them on my PT57A (same mold as the PT2.0) as well as on the PT113 (22mm beam)
dr325i
G.O.A.T.
vsbabolat
Talk Tennis Guru
That’s tough. I like them both. I love the TK57 mold though. The PT2.0 feels crisper and you have a slightly more connected feeling to the ball
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