Discussion in 'Classic Racquet Talk' started by vsbabolat, Jun 11, 2014.
The SMU PT280/630 is very remote. However, a new IG prestige at $120 is one great deal.
If that's the case that just plain sucks. Come HEAD what the hell is wrong with you guys.
Surely there must some HEAD representatives that are on these forums, listen to the people and make it happen.
It's just business. Chances are, they'd lose money on a run of a classic for a bunch of enthusiast nerds like us. And the tennis equipment biz is in such fragile shape now, there is no reason they would risk it.
It's easier to continue selling Chinese ultralight frames to club players. That's how you keep a viable racquet company going these days. :cry:
Finally, a sensible (and realistic) post.
It is interesting that Wilson put out a SMU of the Pro Staff Midsize and that Prince has the Graphite Oversize back in the lineup.
My PT280 is the best frame I have ever owned. I like it more than my prestige classics, various other prestiges, club pros, and radicals. It has a lack if any negative aspect. It seems to have not a single bad vibration and truly feels "like buttah".
The first time I hit with it (strung with plain old PSGD) I thought "oh, this is what a tennis racquet is supposed to feel like"
If Prince, Dunlop and Wilson can do it I don't see why HEAD can't. The PT630 is held in the highest regard compared to the other classics and should out sell all of them.
Wasn't the re-issue of PC600 a success?
All my fellow PT630 fans! Right now, there is a survey on the Head Tennis facebook page, in which you actually can choose the PT630 as your favourite model. Just choose "Others" and there it is, listed. If you want to let the good people at Head know of your fondness for this Classic...
It takes A LOT of lead to get the 315 to a similar spec as a PT630. I have 15 grams of lead at noon on my 315 just to equal the swingweight of my PT630. Even then it doesn't play as stable as the PT630.
For me, the PT630 is my go-to frame when I really want to penetrate the court. It's the only frame that let's me push around 4.5 guys
I replaced the grips and butt caps on my PT630s, they now have leather grips and normal trap door butt caps. They both weigh in around 375 grams with swingweights around 345ish. 6 points HL. The most stable frame I've ever used.
Maybe this is every PT630 fan's chance to let HEAD know there is still a market for this frame, why else would they have the option to choose the PT630 in the survey.
Take the survey here. Go forth my fellow PT630 brethren!
Did it too! Pt630 all the way
I did the survey. Bring back the pt630
I took the survey twice. i wanted to see what the options were for the Prestige. They had the Prestige Pro 600! Thats my dream. Have the Prestige Pro 600 and Pro Tour 630 available again.
I have never hit with the PP600, but to bring back the pt630 would be great. Its been done with the ps85.. come on HEAD
Think of the Prestige Classic but with a much nicer paint job.
Any racquet with those specs would be stable. It's not rocket science, mate.
thanks for the link
I just did it too... well x3 times
had to vote for the PT630, PP600 and also PC600XL
I did the survey. Bring back the pc600 but would not mind also being able to buy the pt630
The total value of those racquets in the photo got to be over $1000 Oh to be single again...
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It's not just the numerical specs, though, which gives this racquet its adherents.
It's the feel.
Head tuned the flex and vibration characteristics to really offer a good compromise between crisp enough and plush enough.
One could take most any racquet and tune it to 375g/6HL, and it would indeed feel stable (I never did enjoy the PT630 myself, it was too stable - it felt to me as though it carries its weight in the shoulders, making it less manoeuverable than I prefer), but you can't really tune for that flex and vibration shedding.
People get so hung up on swingweight, RA, weight, and balance specs, but the vibration amplitude processing of a frame is just as important - yet racquet nerds often fail to factor this in their thinking, and wind up with frames that look great on paper, but are uncomfortable or unhealthy to play with. :-|
Nice posting. Did you try full cap Pt630 or the bumper or both?
Hi, thank you.
I have tried both. My problem was, I think, that I trained and played for so long with the Elite Pro that the PT630 - though the weight, vibration processing, and flex felt quite similar, the width of the head and the difference in torsional moment around the central axis of the frame just made it feel too stable for me... just not manoeuverable enough: a sluggish, bigger-headed Elite Pro. It is a great frame, though, there is no doubt, and it one of a small few classic designs which have relevance to the "classic" and "modern" styles of play. Quite simply, a versatile and friendly racquet that a good player can do anything very well with.
I do most of my playing now with classic 630 cm2 racquets, but they are not by Head, rather a different company from Austria...
Would that be the Pro's Pro Art Of War?
No. I bought a few of those, but just didn't like them. But I really like the old tapered beam Fischer Elliptics.
Was just in your backyard (SJC) last week. We should go for a hit next time I am over there (July 8th). I'll bring my PT630 painted in iPrestige, Ti. Radical, LM Radical, IG Prestige, MG Radical...your choice
My small collection of "tour series"
I always thought the lite and the vamp tour would be 21mm (beam) but they are definitly 22mm.
Just now a radical tour bumblebee to complete it.
Have you guys ever seen a Pro Tour with a molded handle like the Wilson and Prince racquets have?
^That could be custom work by someplace like **** or P1. They make custom grips.
Yo @vsbabolat question for you, which radical/prestige retail frames are the same mould as the pt630? I know the layup will differ, but what's closest to the pt630 in a retail release??
The Radical Tour 260 MP (Bumblebee) The Radical Tour TwinTube 630 is also the same mould.
Thanks mate I appreciate that. Dying to hit with the 630 mould
Have you tried a Prestige MP? (MG, YT, IG, G, G-XT)?
I played some pretty decent tennis(for me!) with the Pro Tour 280 back in the old days...before I switched to the Volkl Teaching Staff. That PT280 would respond just as you asked...about as neutral a frame as ever designed, IMO.
And not string sensative either. Played great with what ever you put in it.
PT280/630 mold is the groat and I consider just extensions of the pc600 and how about the tour xtra long for a little extra kaboom !
Some counterfeiter could surely do well out of a run of these. If they were actually good quality (like when they were selling n90's painted up as k90's) then probably a lot of people would be happy to have one...
Took all these models out for a windy hit this weekend thinking the XTRA long would provide some extra power and sweet spot from my standard pc600 and it surely did. Used the full cap version strung with ALU at 50lbs and it was a hitting monster. Interesting how underpowed both the 630 and 600 felt after switching back.
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