Head Pro Tour specs and Layup?

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GoSurfBoy

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Head Pro Tour 630 specs. I have hunted through here, and all over the web, but I can't find exact specs (found the 280 archive easily), but everyone's perception is that the 630 is a bit more flexible (went thru' many many pages of the 'Official' club, too - but maybe missed).

Silicone in the handle? (I have older Heads that had silicone - stock!)

Twaron? Percentages?

All carbon?

Actual RA #?

Anyone know (325 or VS?)?

Thank you very much.
 
That helps. Thanks, Dino. So the specs are strung? RA as well? I know many say that the 630 does feel slightly more flexible. You have 56, but if that is strung, then the unstrung RA would have been higher than the 280's 58, as listed by TW.?

Still seeking info from anyone who might know the layup schedule, percentages, like 80% Carbon/20% Twaron, etc.
 
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No problem. :)

All the specs in my log are for strung racquets, unless otherwise noted (two or three racquets, I think). RA numbers can change slightly depending on tension, so one shouldn't focus too much on a one-point difference.
 
Thank you, Dino.

I was reading back through The PT Club's stuff, and many people seem to feel there really is a difference in the 2 and the 6, but one poster said it was simply the feel of the cap grommets making the 6 feel more flexible.

I would have thought that it would feel stiffer, as has been my impression of capping a frame.

Someone also mentioned that iPrestige caps were "lighter"? Were they made thinner? Less material?

I'm also a little surprised and disappointed VSB or 325 haven't bothered to throw in a few thoughts here..there is a reason for this post and seeking this info, not just a passing interest.
 
The Pro Tour 630 was Graphite/Twaron Composite. I can't remember now what the exact percentage of Twaron was but it was either 10 or 5%.
 
Thank you, VSB.

Do you know if the twaron was woven within the carbon, so that the layup would have had the carbon throughout the frame, or was it just layered into a certain area(s)?

I appreciate any technical knowledge passed along here, regardless of the frame, too, but mostly applicable to the 630.
 
I have no specifics, but as an owner of the 'trek font' 630 (Made in Austria), normal 630 (Designed in Austria), and 280 (Made in Austria); all three have a distinct feel when it comes to flex.

In stock form, the Designed in Austria PT630 is the lightest of all three, and also flexes a Lot more than the other two versions. The differences between the 280 and 'trek' 630 is not as distinct, but I can definitely tell a small difference between them, with the 280 having the least flex in comparison (it always volleys better than the 630s, not as flimsy at the net).

But, since they have all been used and strung many times, with some in much better condition than others, so some of the difference I feel could be due these other variables (if long-term use affects the flex/feel), so in the end, I apologize for lack of facts.
 
One of my 280s has the Flexpoint CAP, the other does not.
My only Designed 630 has CAP.
My two trek 630s have no CAP.

Honestly, between the 280 with CAP and the one without, they both play identically, so the plastic barely affects feel (IMO); also considering that the one with the thickest CAP (630 'Designed') plays with the most flex out of all my PTs.
 
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Azzurri said:
VS, the "designed" in Austria are those China made?
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The Pro Tour 630 with Designed in Austria were made in Austria and finished in the Czech Republic. The Pro Tour 280 with Designed in Austria AND with HEAD Barcode Label Inside were made in Austria and finished in the Czech Republic.
 
Azzurri said:
that is what I was wondering. I don't mind a Czech made racquet from the classic years but don't want a China one.
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While I get the preference, I don't see why even having a China made Head classic racquet would be all that bad. The Radical Tour OSes (Bumblebee) that were made in China are actually very good racquets in my opinion and play every bit like a classic Head racquet...they do feel a little stiffer than the original ones that had Twaron in the composition (the China ones were all graphite), but were solid racquets none the less.
 
Azzurri said:
that is what I was wondering. I don't mind a Czech made racquet from the classic years but don't want a China one.
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there was no PT630 made in China, only (some) Designed 280's came from China.
ALL of them are just fine sticks...

By the way, WHY don't you mind CZ ones, but oppose the idea of the CHinese ones. I worked with Chinese for many years (during the transition period and lately) and I live in the CZ and work with them last 6-7 months...both labor qualities are not the top notch, and very similar... I can only imagine the CZ labor 10-15 years ago...
 
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vsbabolat said:
The Pro Tour 630 with Designed in Austria were made in Austria and finished in the Czech Republic. The Pro Tour 280 with Designed in Austria AND with HEAD Barcode Label Inside were made in Austria and finished in the Czech Republic.
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Thanks VS.:)
 
ace0001a said:
While I get the preference, I don't see why even having a China made Head classic racquet would be all that bad. The Radical Tour OSes (Bumblebee) that were made in China are actually very good racquets in my opinion and play every bit like a classic Head racquet...they do feel a little stiffer than the original ones that had Twaron in the composition (the China ones were all graphite), but were solid racquets none the less.
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I had the China made PT280 and it was a log. I have read others opinion on the differences with China and "home made" versions of the same racquet and there is a difference (major in some as in the PS 85). I just don't care for China made racquets anymore. I have tried so many racquets (newer models) and they basically are either tin cans or logs. Don't get me wrong some well made China models over the years, but i like my "classics" to be home made.:)

as for the remake of the bumblebee..heard it was not at all like the original.
 
dr325i said:
there was no PT630 made in China, only (some) Designed 280's came from China.
ALL of them are just fine sticks...

By the way, WHY don't you mind CZ ones, but oppose the idea of the CHinese ones. I worked with Chinese for many years (during the transition period and lately) and I live in the CZ and work with them last 6-7 months...both labor qualities are not the top notch, and very similar... I can only imagine the CZ labor 10-15 years ago...
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CZ models were "finished" there, but the racquet itself was still made in Austria.

as for Chinese, read my post above. too much junk out there. its not the 'way' Chinese make the product, but the quality and materials. you guys seem to think I am talking about a Chinese person or their ability to make a racquet. I was talking materials for the most part. odd, but aren't you the one that blah, blah, blah about the PT reacquets? FYI, those are not your "typical" Chinese racquets for a few reasons, so your question to me is a bit weird for you to ask.
 
Azzurri said:
CZ models were "finished" there, but the racquet itself was still made in Austria.

as for Chinese, read my post above. too much junk out there. its not the 'way' Chinese make the product, but the quality and materials. you guys seem to think I am talking about a Chinese person or their ability to make a racquet. I was talking materials for the most part. odd, but aren't you the one that blah, blah, blah about the PT reacquets? FYI, those are not your "typical" Chinese racquets for a few reasons, so your question to me is a bit weird for you to ask.
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yes, I was blah, blah-ing about the PTs but for the feel reason that cured my arm...
I agree about the materials. Not sure how bad it was with the PT280...
 
Azzurri said:
I had the China made PT280 and it was a log. I have read others opinion on the differences with China and "home made" versions of the same racquet and there is a difference (major in some as in the PS 85). I just don't care for China made racquets anymore. I have tried so many racquets (newer models) and they basically are either tin cans or logs. Don't get me wrong some well made China models over the years, but i like my "classics" to be home made.:)

as for the remake of the bumblebee..heard it was not at all like the original.
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Azzurri said:
CZ models were "finished" there, but the racquet itself was still made in Austria.

as for Chinese, read my post above. too much junk out there. its not the 'way' Chinese make the product, but the quality and materials. you guys seem to think I am talking about a Chinese person or their ability to make a racquet. I was talking materials for the most part. odd, but aren't you the one that blah, blah, blah about the PT reacquets? FYI, those are not your "typical" Chinese racquets for a few reasons, so your question to me is a bit weird for you to ask.
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I was referring to the late '90s rerelease of the OS Bumblebee and not the 2007 Agassi Limited Edition (which did indeed use a different mold to the original as well of course being made in China). The Radical Tour OS released sometime around 1998 or 1999 was sold at big chain sporting goods stores like Big 5. That's where the China made Pro Tours were also sold too. I own and have owned several of the China made Radical Tour OSes and in my opinion, I think feels close to the original one, but just a little stiffer and crisper. I only have one Austrian made Pro Tour and no China made one (yet), so I can't comment myself on the difference for that one. I also wasn't referring to the China made racquets themselves and will little focus on the fact that they're made there. Forum member VGP has a counter argument in another thread about this with regards to materials and I agree with that, but to me I don't find today's materials make that bad of a racquet either. I realize it's all preference, but maybe I'm just more accepting to change. For one thing, I really don't get how anyone could call today's racquets "tinny" feeling. Some feel hollow, but I remember racquets from the late '80s like the Wilson Profile feeling hollow. At worst, I could say that some of today's racquets feel "plasticky", but to me, I expect that. But fair enough, to each their own I guess.
 
dr325i said:
yes, I was blah, blah-ing about the PTs but for the feel reason that cured my arm...
I agree about the materials. Not sure how bad it was with the PT280...
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yes, feel is probably the most importan overal aspect to each racquet. any racquet can be made to be speced a certain way but the feel is all about what it is made of and that is what I and many of us complain about with Chinese made racquets..the tin cans. Obviously I was talking about feel and so is everyone else. you know better than most the qulaity difference between a Chinese made racquet (mold) and the "good stuff" that is the Pt or in prior years Austrian made racquets. Just like I know the difference between a st. vincent made racquet and a China made one. materials have changed over the years and yes that is the issue, hence why i said not because a Chinese person made it but more so materials. glad we are on the same page.:)

actually the PT280 felt fine, but in a log kinda way. it had its softness (not as much as my Radial TT) but it was just blah, nothing could be done with the stick.
 
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