Head Rip Control

J

jrmlns

New User
I use head Rip Control 17. This string has the best playability, control and comfort but isn't very durable. Does anyone know of a string that has all of this along with durability?

Thanks
 
Maybe try the 16 version? BTW, can anyone compare NXT and RIP? Might switch from NXT but not sure what the differences are.
 
I also use Head RIP Control 17 on a BLX90, 60#. Great on the elbow, good access to spin, really nice feel, unfortunately breaks in about 8 hours of hitting. But at $7 a set, a good value.
 
I use RIP 16 in the crosses with Poly Star Energy in the mains.
I like the combination a lot because RIP is soft but low powered.
Very nice pocketing and feel. Great spin.
I break the crosses in 6-8 hours. But being a very affordable string I can live with it.
 
^ if you already string NXT at 50lbs, and you feel you need to drop the tension of RIP even further than that, then there's something seriously wrong with your strokes.
 
jrmlns said:
I use head Rip Control 17. This string has the best playability, control and comfort but isn't very durable. Does anyone know of a string that has all of this along with durability?

Thanks
Click to expand...

Yes, you need to try the 16g version. RIP Control is an odd string in playability and durability. With most strings, the 17g version is about 25-30% less durable. With RIP Control, the difference is about 50-70%. The 16g lasts me about 8 hours while the 17g about 3.
 
GameSetMatch said:
^ if you already string NXT at 50lbs, and you feel you need to drop the tension of RIP even further than that, then there's something seriously wrong with your strokes.
Click to expand...
It just I've been having shoulder problems and am keeping at that tension to help my recovery. I assure you my strokes and game are fine. Was looking to switch because heard it offers more spin. I'm actually liking the lower tension. I lose some control but gain a lot of power, especially on serves.
 
nxt is much more arm friendly than rip control. You would not do yourself (or shoulder) any favors by switching.

as far as spin, rip control is not a "easy spin" string.
 
What strings would ppl say play similar to RIP, don't die for a good while, and aren't too pricey either?

TIA,

R.
 
jrmlns said:
Thanks for the tip Saigonbond. I will give Head Intellistring a try!
Click to expand...

If its not too much trouble, maybe you can give us a review of the string after playing with it. 2 of my student athletes play with it in their sticks, but I've never personally hit with it. They have told me that the hybrid mains & cross can be switched to change the feel and playing characteristics. Its a pretty cool looking string as well, kinda retro.

CHEERS!
 
Ross K said:
What strings would ppl say play similar to RIP, don't die for a good while, and aren't too pricey either?

TIA,

R.
Click to expand...

RIP is quite the unique feeling string. Used to use RIP consistently. Actually to me, it starts out with a dead, low-powered feeling so can it die if it is already dead? Closest strings to RIP that I have tried are the ribbon strings from Isospeed.

edit: oh, but the Isospeed runs pricier
 
I don't know how people go through strings so fast, I've have my RPM Blast 16/RIP Control 16 setup for about 2 weeks now with about 40hrs of play and there is hardly any wear visible at all, let alone breakage signs. I think I could keep this same setup for another 40hrs of play and they would still hold up perfectly fine. You're gonna break any string if you mishit a lot of balls, but if you don't, these will hold up for a VERY long time, certainly longer than any other multi I've ever used in my life. Great string to soften up a string bed with, gives pretty good feel, holds tension very well, and string movement is very minimal, even after repetitive use. If you're looking for a string that will give you good playability and phenomenal durability, this is the string you want in your racquet.
 
dabudabuda said:
RIP is quite the unique feeling string. Used to use RIP consistently. Actually to me, it starts out with a dead, low-powered feeling so can it die if it is already dead? Closest strings to RIP that I have tried are the ribbon strings from Isospeed.

edit: oh, but the Isospeed runs pricier
Click to expand...

What a coincidence. Isospeed manufactures RIP for Head. :)
 
Falloutjr said:
I don't know how people go through strings so fast, I've have my RPM Blast 16/RIP Control 16 setup for about 2 weeks now with about 40hrs of play and there is hardly any wear visible at all, let alone breakage signs. I think I could keep this same setup for another 40hrs of play and they would still hold up perfectly fine. You're gonna break any string if you mishit a lot of balls, but if you don't, these will hold up for a VERY long time, certainly longer than any other multi I've ever used in my life. Great string to soften up a string bed with, gives pretty good feel, holds tension very well, and string movement is very minimal, even after repetitive use. If you're looking for a string that will give you good playability and phenomenal durability, this is the string you want in your racquet.
Click to expand...
Not true.
I break RIP 16 in the crosses after 6-8 hours.
I break them right in the middle of the stringbed, consistently.
RIP starts wearing out after ~2 hour. All the coating comes off. It looks like the string is peeling.
But i play with hybrid, never played full RIP.
my 2c.
 
gflyer said:
Not true.
I break RIP 16 in the crosses after 6-8 hours.
I break them right in the middle of the stringbed, consistently.
RIP starts wearing out after ~2 hour. All the coating comes off. It looks like the string is peeling.
But i play with hybrid, never played full RIP.
my 2c.
Click to expand...

I use a hybrid too, and mine have started peeling a little bit, but they still aren't even close to breaking. I am not a chronic string breaker for some reason, and I usually put about 50-60 hours of play in my beds. Even with a poly in the main (It's RPM, but still a poly lol) I can move my strings around and tell they haven't dug into the RIPs much because they aren't hitched in. They still feel really new to me. They haven't peeled THAT much, just a few here and there, really. Again, I can't speak to how much they break because I simply don't break strings, but I guess I'll take your word for it?
 
I can tell you one thing fallout, theres no way the poly in your racquet isnt "dead" after 50-60 hours, just because it isnt broken doesnt mean its good. On a side note, anybody tried rip control in the crosses of a gut stringjob.
 
Many put TF MultiFeel in the same class as Rip Control. I use it and love it, not a lot of power but great feel and control. Durability is about the same as all other TF multis.

I used to hit with X-One but actually like MultiFeel better as it behaves more predictably and costs less than half.
 
I went from Head RIP Control 17 to 16 to Genesis Spin X 17 and never looked back. I started at 55lbs down to 50lbs and now 49lbs.
 
KenC said:
Many put TF MultiFeel in the same class as Rip Control. I use it and love it, not a lot of power but great feel and control. Durability is about the same as all other TF multis.

I used to hit with X-One but actually like MultiFeel better as it behaves more predictably and costs less than half.
Click to expand...

I second this.
I used MultiFeel and I like it as much as RIP.
MF is a little crispier. RIP a little softer and easier on the arm.
 
Dreamcastin said:
I can tell you one thing fallout, theres no way the poly in your racquet isnt "dead" after 50-60 hours, just because it isnt broken doesnt mean its good. On a side note, anybody tried rip control in the crosses of a gut stringjob.
Click to expand...

I like the feeling of these strings though, I intentionally string my racquets higher than where I want them to be because I know they will fall right into my range in no time, and with all the spin I generate, I can handle strings in the high-mid 40's with ease. I actually hit better with my dead strings. Just my preference I suppose. Strung them at 60/58 at first, and they dropped to where I wanted them to be in about 3 days or so and haven't looked back since then.
 
Falloutjr said:
I don't know how people go through strings so fast, I've have my RPM Blast 16/RIP Control 16 setup for about 2 weeks now with about 40hrs of play and there is hardly any wear visible at all, let alone breakage signs. I think I could keep this same setup for another 40hrs of play and they would still hold up perfectly fine. You're gonna break any string if you mishit a lot of balls, but if you don't, these will hold up for a VERY long time, certainly longer than any other multi I've ever used in my life. Great string to soften up a string bed with, gives pretty good feel, holds tension very well, and string movement is very minimal, even after repetitive use. If you're looking for a string that will give you good playability and phenomenal durability, this is the string you want in your racquet.
Click to expand...

2nd this...
 
Frequent string breaking means intense friction (wear and heat) which leads to breakage. Friction is the force of resistance to movement of two solid surfaces. It basically means that the mains and crosses "saw" against and eventually into one another.
Players who hit with a ton of power and spin will cause more "sawing." Other factors of physics such as the angle of ball impact, force of impact, speed of impact, etc. combined with string characteristics such as resiliency, elasticity, density, etc. will affect the friction or "sawing" that eventually leads to breakage.

CHEERS!
 
dabudabuda said:
RIP is quite the unique feeling string. Used to use RIP consistently. Actually to me, it starts out with a dead, low-powered feeling so can it die if it is already dead? Closest strings to RIP that I have tried are the ribbon strings from Isospeed.

edit: oh, but the Isospeed runs pricier
Click to expand...

Ha, ha :) ... btw, I think I know what you mean.

Have just had a rack strung with Multi feel, when I've spent a bit of time on it I'll report back how it compares with RIP.

R.
 
Who manufactures head ril control for head is it isopeed?

Is there an identical string out there made by them that is cheaper just without the head branding?

Also are there variations of that identical string like a spin version etc
 
pete101 said:
Who manufactures head ril control for head is it isopeed?

Is there an identical string out there made by them that is cheaper just without the head branding?

Also are there variations of that identical string like a spin version etc
Click to expand...
Yes, isospeed.

Theoretically professional/control new have the same type of construction and the feel is similar but not quite the same. Also same price point.
 
veelium said:
Yes, isospeed.

Theoretically professional/control new have the same type of construction and the feel is similar but not quite the same. Also same price point.
Click to expand...
Oh i see so there isnt an identical rip control string but there are slight variances? Like is there a spin version?
 
pete101 said:
Oh i see so there isnt an identical rip control string but there are slight variances? Like is there a spin version?
Click to expand...
Nothing that I'd consider a spin version.

There's prof/control new which is very similar to rip control, both polyamide fibers with a type of Polypropylene ribbon coating.
I prefer rip control though, better spin.
If you haven't, try professional/control classic, won't get you more spin either though.
 
veelium said:
Nothing that I'd consider a spin version.

There's prof/control new which is very similar to rip control, both polyamide fibers with a type of Polypropylene ribbon coating.
I prefer rip control though, better spin.
If you haven't, try professional/control classic, won't get you more spin either though.
Click to expand...
So is it called isospeed professional?

Is it just one other variant or does isospeed have more than one?

I was thinking maybe doing a hybrid of rip control and isospeed if there are good options.

What would say isospeed professional offers that is different to rip control?
 
pete101 said:
So is it called isospeed professional?

Is it just one other variant or does isospeed have more than one?

I was thinking maybe doing a hybrid of rip control and isospeed if there are good options.

What would say isospeed professional offers that is different to rip control?
Click to expand...
There is isospeed professional classic which is the 1.20 (might be closer to 1.25) and control classic which is the 1.30 version.

The most well known hybrid version would be rip control mains and isospeed control (or professional) classic crosses. Head sells this as the intellitour hybrid and Gilles Simon used to play this for most of his pro career. So I'd recommend trying this.

Imo the main difference is feel, classic feels a bit crisper. I'd need to play them side by side again to give you the finer points. They both excel at the same things, that nice sweet spot between power, control, spin and good durability. Classic I'd recommend stringing 1kg higher.

So variants, there is one other and that is professional new (or also called +). Again control new for 1.30. I only occasionally string this for others as I think rip control and classic are better.

Then there's axon multi (hard to get) that I haven't tried yet. It has that ribbon style coating like rip or professional but instead of polyamide fibers in the core, there's a polymonofilament core.

At some point there was also a green version of classic but nothing else I know about. Thiem used to play this one in his late junior days before being sponsored by Babolat.
 
veelium said:
There is isospeed professional classic which is the 1.20 (might be closer to 1.25) and control classic which is the 1.30 version.

The most well known hybrid version would be rip control mains and isospeed control (or professional) classic crosses. Head sells this as the intellitour hybrid and Gilles Simon used to play this for most of his pro career. So I'd recommend trying this.

Imo the main difference is feel, classic feels a bit crisper. I'd need to play them side by side again to give you the finer points. They both excel at the same things, that nice sweet spot between power, control, spin and good durability. Classic I'd recommend stringing 1kg higher.

So variants, there is one other and that is professional new (or also called +). Again control new for 1.30. I only occasionally string this for others as I think rip control and classic are better.

Then there's axon multi (hard to get) that I haven't tried yet. It has that ribbon style coating like rip or professional but instead of polyamide fibers in the core, there's a polymonofilament core.

At some point there was also a green version of classic but nothing else I know about. Thiem used to play this one in his late junior days before being sponsored by Babolat.
Click to expand...
Wow so interesting had no idea thanks for this info
and was very surprised about the intellitour
.

Is it probably cheaper to buy rip control and isospeed professional separately for a hybrid rather than a 12m packet of intellitour

So am i right in thinking head owns isospeed like how wilson owns luxilon?

Or does isospeed just manufactures it for head only?

I always assumed they would make a generic identical string sold under the isospeed brand name like how wilson super ink and yonex ink are identical bottles just with different labels.

I guess head have patent rights over their products like other brands which makes sense esp when it comes to strings - ink is just ink
 
veelium said:
There is isospeed professional classic which is the 1.20 (might be closer to 1.25) and control classic which is the 1.30 version.

The most well known hybrid version would be rip control mains and isospeed control (or professional) classic crosses. Head sells this as the intellitour hybrid and Gilles Simon used to play this for most of his pro career. So I'd recommend trying this.

Imo the main difference is feel, classic feels a bit crisper. I'd need to play them side by side again to give you the finer points. They both excel at the same things, that nice sweet spot between power, control, spin and good durability. Classic I'd recommend stringing 1kg higher.

So variants, there is one other and that is professional new (or also called +). Again control new for 1.30. I only occasionally string this for others as I think rip control and classic are better.

Then there's axon multi (hard to get) that I haven't tried yet. It has that ribbon style coating like rip or professional but instead of polyamide fibers in the core, there's a polymonofilament core.

At some point there was also a green version of classic but nothing else I know about. Thiem used to play this one in his late junior days before being sponsored by Babolat.
Click to expand...
What differences are there in control new ans professional new you are seeing?

I think they would clean up with a more power based or spin version as rip control lacks a bit of both but i appreciate you'll sacrifice durability and control in the process - i think that is ok as rip control lasts me like 50-60 hours before i break them with hard hitting (it helps i hit flat) my friend hits with spin and got betweem 30-40 hours before breaking which is still excellent
 
pete101 said:
Wow so interesting had no idea thanks for this info
and was very surprised about the intellitour
.

Is it probably cheaper to buy rip control and isospeed professional separately for a hybrid rather than a 12m packet of intellitour

So am i right in thinking head owns isospeed like how wilson owns luxilon?

Or does isospeed just manufactures it for head only?

I always assumed they would make a generic identical string sold under the isospeed brand name like how wilson super ink and yonex ink are identical bottles just with different labels.

I guess head have patent rights over their products like other brands which makes sense esp when it comes to strings - ink is just ink
Click to expand...
Head doesn't own isospeed as far as I know but the produce a large part of their strings. Isospeed is part of a larger company specialized in all things plastic.

Intellitour sets aren't that expensive so not sure what is cheaper.

pete101 said:
What differences are there in control new ans professional new you are seeing?

I think they would clean up with a more power based or spin version as rip control lacks a bit of both but i appreciate you'll sacrifice durability and control in the process - i think that is ok as rip control lasts me like 50-60 hours before i break them with hard hitting (it helps i hit flat) my friend hits with spin and got betweem 30-40 hours before breaking which is still excellent
Click to expand...
Rip control has a tad more spin than new, the coating feels somewhat slicker. Power feels similar.

Classic has more power (not much). I'd try that or the rip/classic hybrid.
 
veelium said:
Head doesn't own isospeed as far as I know but the produce a large part of their strings. Isospeed is part of a larger company specialized in all things plastic.

Intellitour sets aren't that expensive so not sure what is cheaper.


Rip control has a tad more spin than new, the coating feels somewhat slicker. Power feels similar.

Classic has more power (not much). I'd try that or the rip/classic hybrid.
Click to expand...
Rip/classic sounds a good combo more power will be welcome have you tried them in mains n crosses and vice versa to see how it differs performance wise?
 
pete101 said:
Rip/classic sounds a good combo more power will be welcome have you tried them in mains n crosses and vice versa to see how it differs performance wise?
Click to expand...
I've only tried it with rip mains. Gut feeling says that's probably the better combo. Would want to try the other combo but too many injuries over the last months and too little tennis.
 
veelium said:
I've only tried it with rip mains. Gut feeling says that's probably the better combo. Would want to try the other combo but too many injuries over the last months and too little tennis.
Click to expand...
Is the control classic the old one and the new one is just called control (+arm protection)?

It is quite expensive here in the uk like £20 if I buy from TW europe though it is much cheaper around £13

Head rip control only costs around £8-9
 
veelium said:
I've only tried it with rip mains. Gut feeling says that's probably the better combo. Would want to try the other combo but too many injuries over the last months and too little tennis.
Click to expand...
You mentioned previously the intellitour is supposed to a hybrid of rip control and something else right?

But it is written rip tour and rip feel, i forget what you said were differences between rip tour rip feel and rip control?
 
pete101 said:
You mentioned previously the intellitour is supposed to a hybrid of rip control and something else right?

But it is written rip tour and rip feel, i forget what you said were differences between rip tour rip feel and rip control?
Click to expand...
polypropylene ribbon
 
pete101 said:
You mentioned previously the intellitour is supposed to a hybrid of rip control and something else right?

But it is written rip tour and rip feel, i forget what you said were differences between rip tour rip feel and rip control?
Click to expand...
rip feel = isospeed professional/control classic
rip tour = rip control
 
pete101 said:
Is rip feel a combo of both isospeed so actually it is different than me using rip control in a hybrid with control classic only?
Click to expand...
It is actually RIP Control for main and Isospeed Professional Classic as cross for the 17g Intellitour.
 
pete101 said:
Is rip feel a combo of both isospeed so actually it is different than me using rip control in a hybrid with control classic only?
Click to expand...
Ah no,
1.30mm / 16 gauge intellitour uses isospeed control classic,
1.25mm / 17 gauge intellitour uses isospeed professional classic.

The only difference between control and professional classic is the gauge.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Similar threads

M
Head Rip Control question
2
Replies
95
Views
15K
veelium
V
J
Rip Control Help - Increased Durability
Replies
4
Views
874
jolten55
J
*Gooch*
Strings similar to Rip Control...
Replies
27
Views
3K
Valjean
Valjean
D
Head RIP Control alternative
Replies
6
Views
1K
altawolfe
A
POGforEver
Durable solution to Head RIP Control
Replies
2
Views
637
JW10S
J
Back
Top