Here's the funny thing. I used the speed MP for about a year, but the pure strike 3rd gen 16x19 kept calling me. And I switched back to the PS. Just enjoyed the slightly more swing weight and feel of it. Maybe it's the box beam but it feels more rewarding. Though the speed is a little easier to play with
Head Speed MP 2022
- Thread starter mscream
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Speeds off the shelf can definitely have different swing weights. The 1 I bought from TW was 7 units lighter than the TW SW measurement where as another I bought off the big auction site came in today on spec. 324SW with HyperG 17+3g dampener+ 2g rubber band on top of a 5g OG.
I was told they can charge an extra $10 to pick out 1 with good spec? Anyone know more on that?
So I’ve played a couple matches with it in stock form with HyperG 17 at 48#. Spin and power r definitely better than my Radical MPs. Directional control isn’t as good as the 98 sq in Radicals.
The vibration on certain shots can be felt in the 4-1/4” sized handle. My other Radicals and Speed MP were all 4- 3/8” but I prefer the 4-1/4” for better grip since my wrist injury. I was wondering if anyone had the same issue and if a better replacement grip or injecting silicon inside the handle can help dampen the shock? The shock felt the same as when I used the Extreme Tour 360+ model with 4-1/4”. Since then I’ve been getting the 3/8” size to avoid the issue.
The vibration on certain shots can be felt in the 4-1/4” sized handle. My other Radicals and Speed MP were all 4- 3/8” but I prefer the 4-1/4” for better grip since my wrist injury. I was wondering if anyone had the same issue and if a better replacement grip or injecting silicon inside the handle can help dampen the shock? The shock felt the same as when I used the Extreme Tour 360+ model with 4-1/4”. Since then I’ve been getting the 3/8” size to avoid the issue.
I put a leather grip on mine. I always think that improves the feel and reduces vibrations. To me the speed MP feels quite comfortable with black code at 48lbs.
I think leather grip amplifies vibration. Not a fan.
Ruvi the Kruv
Rookie
After playing twice with this racquet, here is my impression:
Coming from more "traditional" feel frames, such as Gravity Tour and Prince Phantom 100x, it was quite strange at first. The first time I chose no to string it, and played with factory strings. The thing I noticed the most was a surprising jarring feeling when hit outside the sweet-spot, and a disturbing sound when manufacturing spin - metal-like noise, which makes you wanna through away the racquet. But, it was easy to play with, from the begining. Although the trajectory is quite high and loopy, you can FLAT the ball if you stroke really fast. And the feel is not bad either. I had a problem putting the serve inside the box, but it was powerful when it got it. The second time I played, it was with my strings - KIRSCHABAUM CHAMPION 1.25 strung at 48/47. By doing this I got rid of the jarring almost completely and CONTROL was much better. Once I realized that "speed" is the key - you have hit the ball as fast as you can, and you don't need long strokes just accelerate in the right time - the racquet was working really great, even with my serves, which is my weakest aspect of the game. But, still I'm not sure this racquet is predicable enough for the long run - it hold too much "surprising" when the ball leave the racquet - sometimes you benefit from this because it's also hard to anticipate your shots, but sometimes it's just fail you. That's the reason I sliced all my backhands instead of hitting with 2 hands - I knew I can't trust it, with a shot I'm less comfortable with. But slices, surprisingly, sometimes works really well, and rarely fly out of the court.
Coming from more "traditional" feel frames, such as Gravity Tour and Prince Phantom 100x, it was quite strange at first. The first time I chose no to string it, and played with factory strings. The thing I noticed the most was a surprising jarring feeling when hit outside the sweet-spot, and a disturbing sound when manufacturing spin - metal-like noise, which makes you wanna through away the racquet. But, it was easy to play with, from the begining. Although the trajectory is quite high and loopy, you can FLAT the ball if you stroke really fast. And the feel is not bad either. I had a problem putting the serve inside the box, but it was powerful when it got it. The second time I played, it was with my strings - KIRSCHABAUM CHAMPION 1.25 strung at 48/47. By doing this I got rid of the jarring almost completely and CONTROL was much better. Once I realized that "speed" is the key - you have hit the ball as fast as you can, and you don't need long strokes just accelerate in the right time - the racquet was working really great, even with my serves, which is my weakest aspect of the game. But, still I'm not sure this racquet is predicable enough for the long run - it hold too much "surprising" when the ball leave the racquet - sometimes you benefit from this because it's also hard to anticipate your shots, but sometimes it's just fail you. That's the reason I sliced all my backhands instead of hitting with 2 hands - I knew I can't trust it, with a shot I'm less comfortable with. But slices, surprisingly, sometimes works really well, and rarely fly out of the court.
Your impressions with the factory strings are most likely due to they being “synthetic gut” (single core nylon with a few outer wraps). These have a high friction coefficient and don’t slide past each other easily. That’s why hitting with spin feels harsh but they feel softer on flat hits because they are more elastic than polyester, although not as much as multifilaments.
Polyester is almost the exact opposite (low friction and less elastic): smoother on spin and harsher on flat.
factory string in the speed mp is Head lynx (polyester) not syn gut.
lazywombat
Rookie
Unfortunately yes. I've seen even more spec variation on the Gravity line.
For Speed Pro is no problem to find one on spec even from 6 racquets.
lazywombat
Rookie
They make way more MPs than Pros, so molds for press machines are way more worn out resulting in more variation. That's my guess.
ChipReturns
New User
Jannick sinner plays hawk touch in his graphene touch speed mp! He strings at 60lbs but I don’t recommend that!
I always recommend poly tensions a little higher than normal in the speed MP, due to the very open string spacing. So if your normal is 45lbs, you could try 48lbs. But it’s personal preference.
I always recommend poly tensions a little higher than normal in the speed MP, due to the very open string spacing. So if your normal is 45lbs, you could try 48lbs. But it’s personal preference.
TwinCinema
Professional
Yeah if Hawk touch is anything like Lynx touch, then def string it higher than normal. I had it at 48 in a Radical MP and it was way too low. 50+ minimum.
What do you call a lower swingweight for Speed MP?
Im not sure how its possible to measure that bad. Maybe my Dunlop board defective
) But my racquet seems great, by swinging it feels like my Speed Pro, both about about same SW. I put 4gr in the butt and final strung specs: 328.4 gr, 32.5 cm balance, 324SW. Gonna try it tonight. Will see if it replaces my Speed Pro 2022.
Shankmeister-Chubs
Rookie
Ruh roh, my first time reading this thread. Last month I bought a used black speed mp and fell I love with it, it had just the right balance for my swings and great feel. It felt soft but connected. Then I sold it, because I'm crazy. Well I just rebought one, and based on what people have been saying, maybe I got a rare low swingweight one? It swung super easily!
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Lol... "it was perfect for me but I sold it because im crazy"
Shankmeister-Chubs
Rookie
Yeah, you know it's full-blown racketholism when the decisions are clearly irrational.
Played some matches with Speed MP and have mixed opinions. Liked that its easier to use and i didnt get tired as much as with Speed Pro even the match was intense. Spin is better but not better like i excepted. Comfort is very good, which is nice. But im not sure i play better with it. Sometimes stringbed feels inconsistent, but my biggest issue is with stability. Im not sure it's stability, but sometimes racquet feels weird, like stringbed is different, dont know how to say. Specs are almost identical, so it should be stable as Pro i guess. Im not sure, maybe im not fully used with the racquet.
Is there a racquet like Speed Pro but with Speed MP launch angle?Or its impossible?
Is there a racquet like Speed Pro but with Speed MP launch angle?Or its impossible?
TwinCinema
Professional
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Is there a racquet like Speed Pro but with Speed MP launch angle?Or its impossible?
Essentially impossible; it’s a common wish for us to get a 16x19 Speed Pro but that won’t happen.
But there are some reasonable alternatives. One is different (thinner, bite-ier strings on the Speed Pro (with a lower tension) to help with launch angle (not to mention varying your stroke mechanics). The other is an Extreme Tour, weighted up. Plenty of launch and that MP power, but with Pro-style control, plus good spin.
How thinner you have in mind?Less than 1.20?
TwinCinema
Professional
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
In my demoing experience 2024 seems less erratic. Preferred the pro tho the mp hit such a weak ball stock. Pro such a low launch angle though is the problem
the mp def doesnt hit a weak ball stock..
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
ChipReturns
New User
I agree with this - I love the speed pro and the only thing I would change is to have a slightly higher launch angle. What other racquet(s) would you recommend?
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
Nothing is like speed ots unique but I'd try PS 97 v14 and Blade v9
In what way is it weak compare to other lines? which racket has the strongest ball then?
Aestheticsaboveallelse
Legend
pure aero 100 or ezone 100
Flying_Axe
Rookie
gmedeiros321
New User
Hi guys. Has anyone felt lack of stability when using thinner strings? I strung her with confidential 18 g at 48 lbs and i felt a tons of difference in stability when compared to my Blade v8 18x20. After adding 4 grams in 3 and 9 and put a dampener, the racket change a lot for better. Would I achieve the same result if I simply put a thicker gauge?
Strings weight can change depending on strings and how loose you string. You can have 2-5 SW difference in the same racquet. Dampener increase SW a bit too, but not much. 4gr at 3/9 probably increase stability more than any heavy string you gonna put in your racquet.
gmedeiros321
New User
I consider switching to Lynx Tour 1.25 or Confidential also 1.25. They would increase the weight by 5/4 grams respectively and nearly 10 points on SW. I'm thinking about changing to higher gauges because the current one has so much power, but without lost the stability or add more weight on setup.
Yes I lost 3g of weight going from Lynx tour 1.25 to Hyper G 1.15. That’s like 6 units of SW difference I was skeptical at 1st and tried playing with it and it wasn’t playable. Added 2g at 12 o’clock and instantly made it playable just like b4 except for the thinner string.
