Head Speed MP (360+ & Older Gens) Official Thread

Damotuky

New User
The Touch version is the best imo. I stocked up when the 360 version came out. Maneuverable, spinny, great control, power... So easy to take balls early and play aggressive tennis. Must be why Sinner plays with this version still
 

MikhailT

Rookie
The Touch version is the best imo. I stocked up when the 360 version came out. Maneuverable, spinny, great control, power... So easy to take balls early and play aggressive tennis. Must be why Sinner plays with this version still
Did you customize it? Or happen to know the swing weight? Asking, because the numbers vary between TW review and TWU tools
 

Damotuky

New User
Did you customize it? Or happen to know the swing weight? Asking, because the numbers vary between TW review and TWU tools
I put a Gamma leather grip on it. I had lead at 12 but eventually took it off for some reason-don’t remember why. Played great with the lead. I have Lynx string that is beyond dead but playing with it anyway. I’m caught between this and Gravity Tour which is amazing as well
 

Damotuky

New User
Did you customize it? Or happen to know the swing weight? Asking, because the numbers vary between TW review and TWU tools
Not sure of swing weight. I have 8 of them so I'm sure it varies. I'm in Houston so when I go to the large tennis store which moderators won't allow me to post for some reason, I'll see if they can measure
 

flipflap

Rookie
Just bought one and it's 3gram below spec and 3mm more head heavy, so no problem adding 3g to the handle to make it on spec.

But before the stringjob im thinking of putting 3 gram total to the head also. Do this a lot with my 300gram racquets.

Anyone experience with adding lead to the hoop on the mp360+? Havent seen much posts on this, except that guy that added 12 (!!!) or so.
 

glenWs

Rookie
I added weight to the hoop and handle and completely ruined the balance. Couldn’t dial it in at all. Then I took all weight out of handle (about 6g) and left about 4g at 3&9 and it’s muuuch better.
 

Tmano

Professional
Maybe you guys know this; what's the difference between the head graphene speed mp tour and the regular graphene speed mp?
 

MikhailT

Rookie
Just bought one and it's 3gram below spec and 3mm more head heavy, so no problem adding 3g to the handle to make it on spec.

But before the stringjob im thinking of putting 3 gram total to the head also. Do this a lot with my 300gram racquets.

Anyone experience with adding lead to the hoop on the mp360+? Havent seen much posts on this, except that guy that added 12 (!!!) or so.
I'd leave it as it is,the swingweight is already substantial as it is, assuming it's on spec.
 

flipflap

Rookie
I'd leave it as it is,the swingweight is already substantial as it is, assuming it's on spec.
Yes, well that's exactly where my doubt is. with for example a pure aero i also add a couple of grams in the hoop (only a total of 2 to 3 grams)....
 
I recently purchased a Head Graphene 360+ Speed MP from a user on here and so began another chapter in my racketholic life. I'm not sure if it's the honeymoon phase, but this racket shot up in my rankings immediately based on my first singles match. I'd put it right above my Yonex VCORE 95 and Blade 98 (2013) frames. It's the opposite of those two low-powered control/precision frames, which I generally don't like. But this thicker frame with its huge 100sq head size and open pattern doesn't play like other similar frames. It has great control and stability. It doesn't feel like a light plastic toy like Babolat frames do. The feel is solid with a predictable response even on off-center shots. My slice was the best it has been in a long time and my shots on defense are exactly why I wanted it (block it to float a ball and allow me to get back into a rally). It has more power but it isn't a rocket launcher like other similar spec frames. Anyways, going to try it for doubles tonight. I won't say the magic words about switching because I had a medical condition well known among this tennis community (racketholism). But I can say if things go well, I won't be selling this one.

It's strung with technifibre ice code at 49lbs and has a leather grip. What are your setups and experience with this frame and/or older generations?
I'm glad that I found this thread. The 360+ Speed MP is on my demo list along with the Babolat Pure Strike 16x19 third generation and Prince Textreme Tour 100 (310). Coming from the Prince Rebel 95, I need a more user friendly frame with a lower, more manageable swing weight with better maneuverability and pop that can help drive the ball to get court depth. Hopefully it will be an easy stick to use for serves too. The 360 + Speed MP gets great review marks by TW and those who use them. It looks to be a fabulous all-rounder. I am very excited to try it!

One question from you all - some of you have said that the feel is a little "off"? Does that mean it has a different feel from the previous generation or that it just has a unique feel compared to other frames?

Oh, and the demo will be the all black frame - very slick.
 
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I don't know why the Speed isn't a huge hit here. Maybe people are unsure what it is all about? Bad name? Bad PJ? Dislike of Djokovic? Graphene hate? Not sure, but it seems that something hasn't quite clicked.
Maybe it because Head has so many racquet lines and iterations that the Speed MP gets overlooked. It took me a good couple months of research and input from other players to find the Speed MP. It doesn't seem to be as well-known as say, a Pure Aero or a Wilson Pro Staff.
Head's diverse offerings make my head spin (no pun intended). It's almost as bad as Prince's nomenclatures...
 
I'm glad that I found this thread. The 360+ Speed MP is on my demo list along with the Babolat Pure Strike 16x19 third generation and Prince Textreme Tour 100 (310). Coming from the Prince Rebel 95, I need a more user friendly frame with a lower, more manageable swing weight with better maneuverability and pop that can help drive the ball to get court depth. Hopefully it will be an easy stick to use for serves too. The 360 + Speed MP gets great review marks by TW and those who use them. It looks to be a fabulous all-rounder. I am very excited to try it!

One question from you all - some of you have said that the feel is a little "off"? Does that mean it has a different feel from the previous generation or that it just has a unique feel compared to other frames?

Oh, and the demo will be the all black frame - very slick.
Some users have described the feel as 'plasticy'? I have the MP and it's a nice frame, but for me the Pro works better. The MP is not as plush as the Pro, but definitely has easier power and spin while being comfortable with good feel. Haven't decided if I'll sell my MP or keep in in the bag as an alternative for those days we all fear when everything's going awry and you just need something different or easier.

As for the Speed line... I think the Gravity line has stole some of the thunder from it. Plus there are so many really good new racquets out there that even the Gravity line seems to be getting lost in the shuffle. The current Speed 360+ line has been out for almost two years now so it's easy for people to overlook at this point and there are so many more new toys hanging on the wall. I overlooked this line myself having tried the 360 and didn't think the new 360+ would be that big of a change, but I'm glad I gave in to my inner racquetholicness and gave it a try anyway. I've had some nagging elbow and wrist things also that have been keeping me continually searching for a racquet that fits my game while still being kind enough to allow me to heal and get healthy. Glad I tried it and ever since I've been with the Speed 360+ my elbow and wrist have been thanking me by getting gradually better.

Again there just so many good racquets out there right now, but I've been very impressed with the Speed 360+ line... definitely needs more love and will probably get it if a younger player like Sinner or Gauff happens to pick up a major. Also even though it should be synonymous with Djokovic that fact that he's been playing with the black frame for so long probably has folks confused as well.
 

MikhailT

Rookie
Also even though it should be synonymous with Djokovic that fact that he's been playing with the black frame for so long probably has folks confused as well.
purely anecdotally, but two of my 5 regular partners commented on the my standard stormtrooper 360+ Speed MP as "Oh, Djokovic's racquet?" when I brought to the court for the first time.
 

agu

Rookie
Some users have described the feel as 'plasticy'? I have the MP and it's a nice frame, but for me the Pro works better. The MP is not as plush as the Pro, but definitely has easier power and spin while being comfortable with good feel. Haven't decided if I'll sell my MP or keep in in the bag as an alternative for those days we all fear when everything's going awry and you just need something different or easier.

As for the Speed line... I think the Gravity line has stole some of the thunder from it. Plus there are so many really good new racquets out there that even the Gravity line seems to be getting lost in the shuffle. The current Speed 360+ line has been out for almost two years now so it's easy for people to overlook at this point and there are so many more new toys hanging on the wall. I overlooked this line myself having tried the 360 and didn't think the new 360+ would be that big of a change, but I'm glad I gave in to my inner racquetholicness and gave it a try anyway. I've had some nagging elbow and wrist things also that have been keeping me continually searching for a racquet that fits my game while still being kind enough to allow me to heal and get healthy. Glad I tried it and ever since I've been with the Speed 360+ my elbow and wrist have been thanking me by getting gradually better.

Again there just so many good racquets out there right now, but I've been very impressed with the Speed 360+ line... definitely needs more love and will probably get it if a younger player like Sinner or Gauff happens to pick up a major. Also even though it should be synonymous with Djokovic that fact that he's been playing with the black frame for so long probably has folks confused as well.
Have you, by chance, tried the wilson blade v7 16*19 so you could give me a comparison with the MP and Pro?
 
I've only hit with the Blade v7 16x19 very briefly. I have a buddy that plays with one... I'll try to borrow it from him to provide a better answer. From my brief hit with the v7 Blade... the MP has more power and easier access to spin. The Pro is more controlled like the Blade but still has more power available than the Blade. Regarding feel... the Blade feels more muted to me. I think Head really nailed it with the 360+ spiral fiber tech... it's comfy yet still provides a lot of great feel/feedback.
 

flipflap

Rookie
What I notced is that the white is matte first (starting from grip side) and then there's a spot where it becomes glossy! You also feel the transition...
 

agu

Rookie
I've only hit with the Blade v7 16x19 very briefly. I have a buddy that plays with one... I'll try to borrow it from him to provide a better answer. From my brief hit with the v7 Blade... the MP has more power and easier access to spin. The Pro is more controlled like the Blade but still has more power available than the Blade. Regarding feel... the Blade feels more muted to me. I think Head really nailed it with the 360+ spiral fiber tech... it's comfy yet still provides a lot of great feel/feedback.
Great. And what about maneuverability? Are both easier to maneuver than the blade?
 

flipflap

Rookie
First impression on court (added 4 gram in the butt and 2 grams at 12 but the racquet was 3 grams under spec)

It is still around 5 grams lighter than my usual set up but it feels heavier, very strange.

So it feels very solid but not neccesarily very speedy. Nor crisp but that might also be affected by the fresh strings.

This sunday another session...
 

flipflap

Rookie
Session 3: now also removed the blutac from the butt...even better. very strange that a 300 gram racquet, which was even 2 to 3 gram below spec can feel so solid.

I usually find that racquets are too weak in the hoop and I like some polarization therefore I always add some lead to 300 to 310 gram racquets but this one seems just stable enough.

Must be because of the higher swingweight, should start measuring that as I usually only do balance and static weight. Always thought that SW was a bit unnecessary

Maybe I will miss some weight in difficult circumstances against hardhitters, but for now it feels like it has the ease of a pure aero/drive with more control, more feel and more stability, quite what I am looking for.
 

Ryebread

Semi-Pro
Session 3: now also removed the blutac from the butt...even better. very strange that a 300 gram racquet, which was even 2 to 3 gram below spec can feel so solid.

I usually find that racquets are too weak in the hoop and I like some polarization therefore I always add some lead to 300 to 310 gram racquets but this one seems just stable enough.

Must be because of the higher swingweight, should start measuring that as I usually only do balance and static weight. Always thought that SW was a bit unnecessary

Maybe I will miss some weight in difficult circumstances against hardhitters, but for now it feels like it has the ease of a pure aero/drive with more control, more feel and more stability, quite what I am looking for.
I don't mind the swing weight of the MP

what is your goal, to reduce static weight?
if anything, I was going to add a gram to the handle to make it more whippy for serves.
 

beltsman

Legend
Had a great match with the Speed MP today. After not playing for a long time, it was easy to get in the groove. My favorite shot is the FH. Very point and shoot with good spin and nice pace. Control is so good that going DTL is no problem at all. It's fantastic for keeping your opponent off balance. Like I said in my 360 Speed review, it really wants to make you play offensive tennis. I call it slashing offensive tennis. Taking balls early, changing up angles, moving into the court. It's fun to play swashbuckling tennis with this. I understand why they call it the Speed.
 

bigdaddy

Rookie
Had a great match with the Speed MP today. After not playing for a long time, it was easy to get in the groove. My favorite shot is the FH. Very point and shoot with good spin and nice pace. Control is so good that going DTL is no problem at all. It's fantastic for keeping your opponent off balance. Like I said in my 360 Speed review, it really wants to make you play offensive tennis. I call it slashing offensive tennis. Taking balls early, changing up angles, moving into the court. It's fun to play swashbuckling tennis with this. I understand why they call it the Speed.
Is this the 360+
 

flipflap

Rookie
I don't mind the swing weight of the MP

what is your goal, to reduce static weight?
if anything, I was going to add a gram to the handle to make it more whippy for serves.
No i just wanted to point out that it's so stable that it doesn't need lead, even when I normally add lead to my rackets. I like the stability.
 

Ryebread

Semi-Pro
No i just wanted to point out that it's so stable that it doesn't need lead, even when I normally add lead to my rackets. I like the stability.

gotcha
yes, the mp is quite stable.
it's a miracle, that it's so stable, considering how maneuverable it is!
forget it's swing weight, b/c that doesn't seem possible, it feels closer a 318 SW, than 330 somehow.
given that it's not super head light, how is this possible!? -not complaining- : )
 

beltsman

Legend
I will repost my review of the 360 Speed MP but MODIFIED for the 360+ MP, because they have the same essential characteristics with key differences:

It swings so easily but it still has great plowthrough and retains excellent maneuverability. It does not tire me out. You are rewarded when "throwing" the racquet into shots, especially the FH. It rewards you with insane angles, immense spin, and great pace. 1HBH is a breeze. Groundstrokes are SO much fun with this. Not just fun, but effective and versatile. But you have to SWING. It encourages you to really swing out and that is where it rewards you. If you want to swing at a slower speed on a lot of shots, get an Extreme.

Volleys are good. It holds up at the net and responds quickly. But, it does suffer in bunting the ball back. It just doesn't have the mass to do it super well. However, the + version does better here. I like to chip service returns, but this racquet makes it more difficult (not as bad with the +). Instead, I find myself taking far more aggressive swings on ROS, which is probably a good thing overall. It does get me in trouble on defense though, when I bunt a ball instead of giving it a good slice swing. This necessitates some more thought on slices.

I also think the slice is good, not amazing. It doesn't float the ball too badly and you can really knife it.

Serves are good. Not amazing, but good. Nice mix of pace and spin.

In total, it is FUN to play with because it rewards and encourages you to swing out on the ball. It makes you play FAST.

Use this racquet if:
- You like to play offensive but creative tennis from the baseline - not ballbashing or grinding.
- You are comfortable hitting shots from all over the court.
- You look to be aggressive on return.
- You get to the net to finish points, but don't live there.
- You hit with a loose wrist/arm.

Don't use this racquet if:
- You want to grind out points from the baseline.
- You want to rely on chipping/blocking the ball back.
- You want extreme power from your racquet.
- You like to swing with moderated strokes.
- You arm the ball.

Maybe use this racquet if:
- You like to S&V. It will work, but there are probably better options.
 

Flying_Axe

New User
No i just wanted to point out that it's so stable that it doesn't need lead, even when I normally add lead to my rackets. I like the stability.
Yeah, stock form is stable enough. I tend to make contact at upper part, so I added 3 grams at 12 for extended sweet spot and a little bit more plow. The original sweet spot is lower and tips could be dead.
 

flipflap

Rookie
Question: I play with RPM blast 23,5/22,5kg (51,8/49,6 lbs), quite some power. Will increase with 1kg/2,2lbs next time I think...

What do you guys play with?
 

edelp

Semi-Pro
I play with Dyreex Alu Tour 1.25 (23kg) or Super tour 1.30 (22.5kg). Also tested with Hyper G Soft 1.20 at 22.5 kg and Yonex Poly tour pro 1.25 (yellow) at 22.5
the yonex nice feeling but too much power for my taste on this frame at that tension. HG soft fine! Prefer the other Dyreex strings and they are very comfortable to the arm...
I have to admit that my arm does not tolerate RPM Blast even for 10min.
 

beltsman

Legend
Had another hit with the 360+ tonight. The + tech is a really great upgrade. The feeling is sublime. The precision is so good that it keeps my Extreme in the bag. It's just more fun to hit with the Speed. Control/power/spin balance is on point.
 

bertrevert

Hall of Fame
With my prev version MP 360...

I now have 6g in the butt, 2g at 12oclock, and theus the static weight = 320g.

Does anyone reckon I would therefore be getting close to the new version 360+ with its SW listed as 329?

Unsure if there is a calculation I should do?

Because I am wondering (still!) about that higher SW on the 360+ would I be able to handle it on specifically my 1HBH?

Think the Speed MP is the one and only 100 sq in racquet that gels with my 1HBH.

(Also recently tested PureStrike 100 for a comparison and it felt way, way, way more stiff than the Speed...)

Can't believe there aren't more users of the Speed... hang on, probably everyone thinks that about their own racq.
 
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