Head Velocity MLT - anyone tried?
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SJSA
Professional
I playtested this string last July from TW.
It is very durable for multi with a good price.
Check the following posting to review.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...d-multifilament-playtest.538522/#post-9563519
It is very durable for multi with a good price.
Check the following posting to review.
http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/inde...d-multifilament-playtest.538522/#post-9563519
NetNinja68
Rookie
Agreed. Great as a hybrid with Lynx
SJSA
Professional
I like natural color better due to string movements for the black one.
JackB1
G.O.A.T.
just tried this one as a full bed in my Formula 100 and came away very impressed.
For a multi, it hardly moves around at all. No constant string straightening. Really incredible.
Another bonus is the control. Not springy and launchy like most multis and with a nice crisp feel too.
For a multi, it hardly moves around at all. No constant string straightening. Really incredible.
Another bonus is the control. Not springy and launchy like most multis and with a nice crisp feel too.
markwillplay
Hall of Fame
reviving this one. I have lynx and velocity here. Tried lynx full bed and liked it. If I was to hybrid it with Velocity which would go I he mains? What would be the benefit of either combo? Thanks
time_fly
Hall of Fame
Good performance, good value. I use it as a go-to for friends who don’t care about their strings and don’t need poly. It does feel a bit more muted and control-oriented than premium multifilaments like NRG2, Biphase, or NXT. IMO those are intended to be as gut-like as possible and Velocity is not. Velocity offers very good all-around performance without hurting your arm like a poly.
Dartagnan64
G.O.A.T.
It's a great value multi. Low powered so you can use it in a Tweener and not get that trampoline launch. Slippery enough to provide good snapback and spin for a multi.
Works well in a full bed and as a cross to soften up a poly hybrid. I used to use it as a cross with Origin as my poor mans "gut/poly" when my arm was a mess.
Works well in a full bed and as a cross to soften up a poly hybrid. I used to use it as a cross with Origin as my poor mans "gut/poly" when my arm was a mess.
graycrait
Legend
@morten
I consciously poo pooed Velocity after only using a set or two some while back. I recently got a couple of barely used Head rackets from TW that were prestrung with 17g Velocity. I would guess they are in the mid to low 50s as far as tension. I was totally sold on TF Multifeel but now I am reassessing. One reason is that you can generally get Velocity in a variety of colors, it also seems to be routinely more available in all its colors & gauges than TF or PPC, and is comparatively low powered for a multi.
I consciously poo pooed Velocity after only using a set or two some while back. I recently got a couple of barely used Head rackets from TW that were prestrung with 17g Velocity. I would guess they are in the mid to low 50s as far as tension. I was totally sold on TF Multifeel but now I am reassessing. One reason is that you can generally get Velocity in a variety of colors, it also seems to be routinely more available in all its colors & gauges than TF or PPC, and is comparatively low powered for a multi.
Dartagnan64
G.O.A.T.
How low are you talking? I'd usually string it in the 52-54 lb range for a standard powered racket. For a Power frames i'd go to 56. For a low powered mid I'd go to 50 lbs.
Grinch
Rookie
What did you like about the full bed of Lynx? Spin, distance control, pocketing and lateral control, durability? If you hybrid Lynx with Velocity, I would think keep Lynx in the mains if you want to hit more spin and control (less straight power). Or keep Lynx in the mains if you tend to break main strings quickly. Try Velocity in the mains if you want more pop and spin isn’t your priority. Overall tension should also last longer with Velocity in mains. I’ve used both Lynx and Velocity and I agree with the other posters that Velocity is a low powered multi (which I like) and Lynx is a poly that has above average power. So when you hybrid them you are NOT putting vastly different strings together. Some players like hybriding the most spinny shaped/textured poly with the liveliest multi (or a gut). I’ve tried that but personally never liked the feel of two completely opposite strings together. But that was just a subjective “feel” thing.
Traffic
Hall of Fame
One key aspect of Velocity (that's covered in the million post thread) is the low powered nature of Velocity. It was discussed as a comfortable multi that has lower power, good spin potential (that are desired traits of poly) without the harshness that is associated with poly strings. To me, that's what really separates it from many other multis.
I tried hybriding the two once with Velocity in the mains and the stringbed locked up after 3 or 4 hours or so...have you had a different experience? I really like Lynx but full bed it goes dead after 8 hours for me. I know some consider that average to good, but stringing isn't my passion. Looking for something similar with better tension maintenance but may just have to try full bed Velocity to see if that can survive past 8.
Grinch
Rookie
Not sure what you mean by “locked up”. Do you mean the Velocity mains wouldn’t move and snap back for topspin strokes? I don’t think I felt that with Velocity hybrid in mains. I also tried velocity in crosses with Hyper-G mains. That softened the feel a little but I didn’t seem to get much else out of that combo.
I agree with your dead Lynx analysis. I got a PT2.0 that came pre-strung with full bed of Lynx 16 (50 lbs using sound app) and it felt like a entirely different string after 6 days of 4.0 doubles (about 18 hrs and it “measured” 40 lbs). But I’ve found the same for all polys I’ve tried.
I definitely recommend trying full bed Velocity if you don’t want to restring every couple of weeks (in my case playing about 3 doubles and 2 singles per week). What racquet are you trying Velocity on? That makes a bing difference too. After experimenting with some hybrids and about half a dozen polys, I have settled for now on full bed Velocity at 50 lbs on my PTs (280x2, a 630, and a new PT2.0). That‘s my favorite setup right now for doubles where a low launch angle, flatter ball, more emphasis on pinpoint depth and lateral accuracy (threading the needle) works best for me. I tried other multis like NXT and Reflex but I found that I had to string them in high 50s/60 to get depth control, and then the bed felt too “boardy” for my old arm. As far as Velocity durability, I use an 18x20, hit with moderate semi-western spin on only half my strokes (or less), and try to play about 10 hours a week ... my 3 old racquets in rotation last 3 or 4 months until one breaks or the strings start moving too much. Then I restring all at the same time. My odyssey with trying to find a modern string and racquet more suited for singles on clay is another long story for another short day. Sorry for the verbose answer.
Basically strings wouldn't move and was like everything was dead. Went from full of power and life to board like and no power or spin with deep notching. This was my first hybrid ever and I was surprised it lasted so shortly.
I'm using the Blade v7 18x20. Recovering from injury and my arm pain and TE are getting pretty severe as I recover since I'm constantly increasing tension. Low tension poly was working well for me but now that I'm getting to higher (normal) tension levels to control the power, the stiffness is a bit too high. Unfortunately I feel like there's no answer to the whole "affordable and soft" situation since strings snap or go dead so quickly. I'm trying full bed velocity soon and praying it will last a bit.
Grinch
Rookie
I think you may really like full Velocity in your 18x20 Blade. Everyone tells me I should update my PTs with that 18x20 Blade ... I demoed it once but not long enough to make an impression to buy. If your stick was a 16x19 PureAero, Extreme, EZone, Clash, etc., I’d say forget full bed Velocity. But with a relatively flexy, 18x20 stick, the low powered Velocity gives you multi comfort for your TE, and great spin and good durability for a multi. I also feel some ok pocketing/dwell (for a multi) when I use Velocity 17ga at =<50 lb(23kg). I prefer 17ga with the 18x20, but if you’re a hard hitter and more worried about breakage, try 16. If your more worried about your arm, I‘d start with 17ga at 50lb (23kg).
FIRETennis
Professional
I usually play with gut/poly but had some Velocity left and wanted to try all the combos...
Velocity mains / Poly crosses
Poly mains / Velocity crosses
Gut mains / Velocity crosses
Velocity Full bed...
The only useable combo for 2-3h was Velocity mains / Poly crosses. Forget about full bed Velocity if you are over 4.0 and hit with topspin.
If you think Velocity mains / poly crosses locked up quick, wait until you see how quick the full bed Velocity locks in the Blade....
Idk what to do then haha had heard Velocity had good durability. Does Velocity just break easy or will that lock up fast too? Was hoping I'd have a chance with the 18x20 full bed. Soft poly's in the 40's were okay, but too powerful and too much tension loss.
Seems like there's just nothing cost or time effective involving soft string. Might have to start exploring some smaller brands with "new" poly or just go back to hyper G strung low forever.
Any recommendations? Any stiffer poly's you may know that play well at lower tension? Didn't stick to lower tension stiff strings because I found the stringbed to become too... unpredictable when it got low enough for comfort.
markwillplay
Hall of Fame
Uh, I play 4.0-4.5 tennis against people who can crush the ball. A full bed of velocity is fine. I can hit hard with lots of spin and I find that full bed of velocity gives me what I put in it. i like Lynx and am trying 4g soft too. Still, I can pick up my Gravity pro with full bed of Velocity and hit with almost as much spin and more power. You do realize that at one point, Joker hit full bed of a multi on the ATP tour. If you are a complete brusher, maybe Velocity would let you down, but it is not a string that 4.5's can't compete with.
FIRETennis
Professional
I'm not saying Velocity isn't a great string, quite the opposite.
I do think it plays great... but for me it was 20' in a full bed before it was full of ball fuzz, half way notched and hard to move any mains and crosses even with my fingers. I wish I took a pic of it. I played on clay with new balls.
I found it playable for 2-3h as a main with a slick poly cross. Lots of comfort and spin but the problem there was notching and durability. Mains broke after 3h.
And here is the 60 page thread on the topic of Velocity... plenty of players confirming heavy notching in a hour or two. I'm sure they aren't all "brushers".
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Slowtwitcher
Legend
I'm playing with BHS7T/Velocity at 53/56 on a GPro now. I was pleasantly surprised on how low powered the setup (Velocity) is. Decent spin, but nothing mind-blowing. What I liked more about this setup was the low tension loss on the combo. No notching issues, Velocity will eventually break because it's wearing out from ball friction.
Grinch
Rookie
What’s your level and style? If you‘re 4.5 to Open, and either crush flat or wipe every forehand with full western, then I agree with FIRETennis, Velocity full bed will experience rigor mortis under that pressure. I know a lot of 4.5s and better (and a few retired WTA, and I don’t know any who play with multi in the mains.
I'm playing with 4.5's singles and with 3.5s-4.5s in doubles right now. I hit harder than most 4.5's and play western. If I'm not over powering my opponents or always attacking I'm not winning since everyone I play against are good all court.
Back in the day I didn't know any better and just went dead poly until it broke. Had no arm issues, wasn't playing seriously/ frequently so didn't really notice how expensive tennis is, and how short string life is.
Now that I'm actually paying attention to tension loss and have a more weak arm while playing 2-3 times a week for 1.5-2 hours a day.... I guess I'm just shocked that there's no solution yet for a comfortable string that doesn't have a 4 - 8 hour life with 3 stages of tension and feel to it.
I probably need to explore hybrids/gut to find the answer but I've been really turned off since 3 hour velocity in mains incident haha. Anything you can recommend that is comfortable and lasts? I haven't even explored gut yet because of the price and fear of breaking it quickly...
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FIRETennis
Professional
Try gut/poly. It will last longer than full bed poly or multi hybrids. The crosses will flatten out and go dead but those could be replaced. You can probably get something like 10-20h out of a gut/poly and that's half a set of gut and 1-2 crosses.
Full bed polys that last 4-8h and are soft: Yonex Poly Tour Air, Isospeed Cream, Volkl Cyclone Tour (more like 3-4h), Luxilon Element, ALU Power Soft (more like 6h).
markwillplay
Hall of Fame
I gotcha. I will say that I use string savors with my full beds and it is possible that they help with spin. Not sure why more people don’t use them with Multi. Having said all that, I am trying hyper g soft to see if I like it. I thought lynx gave me more spin at same tension as hyper soft. I do not like cream in full bed even though supposed to be soft. Just too springy
Hansen
Professional
Dude also probably had 10 rackets in his bag and could afford to string whenever lol. It's not that everyone can't play with multis. It's that they don't last long enough for most people that are hitting harder. I'm looking to get over 8 hours if possible.
Gut doesn't break too easily? That has been my hesitance.
Traffic
Hall of Fame
If you're a hard hitting 4.5, then you just have to accept that you'll be re-stringing frequently.
I have to restring my son's racquet every week. He plays with gut/poly hybrid. It can vary sometimes depending on whether he is playing singles or doubles. When he played fb poly, he'd either break the strings or it would go dead 10-12hrs. So in terms of durability, poly wasn't really better.
I'm pretty sure Velocity won't last as long as gut. But it's a lot cheaper.
Get your own stringer, buy a reel of your favorite strings and have 3 racquets to rotate; 1 you play with, 1 fresh in your bag in case you break string, 1 on your machine getting ready to string.
FIRETennis
Professional
It only breaks fast 6-8h for me when playing on very wet clay where the balls, grips, everything turns orange/bad. Check the gut/poly thread.
I would say average in a 16x19 is about 20h with 2-3 crosses, on clay. Probably 50% longer on hard court.
I echo this.
The best tennis investment has been a stringing machine and learning to string.
Velocity is cheaper as a string but costs about the same as gut/poly on a "per hour" basis.
4h Velocity/Poly hybrid vs. 14-20h VS/Poly hybrid.
Traffic
Hall of Fame
My son typically breaks the gut in about 10-15hrs of play normally. but he played when the courts were a little wet this past week. Went through 2 racquets in 2 hitting sessions. I'm now stringing one of his racquets with S-gut/poly that he can hit when the conditions are still a bit wet. That setup probably costs me $9 a stringing...
graycrait
Legend
I am so happy I got a stringing machine but I am not sure it is an "investment." It has caused me to buy miles of string and many many dozens of rackets just to see what is possible
A stringing machine is part of the hobby, for some it can become a business or side hustle. I can't imagine not having a stringing machine now.
But I am thinking TF Multifeel, Prince Premier Control and Velocity are the go to multis unless you want something natural gut like, then NRG2 and X-1 Biphase would be the likely choices.
FIRETennis
Professional
Time investment :- )
Well he says in the video, that he can play a whole match with one string job, he usually gets 3 hours of play from one racquet and brings 3-4 to a match.
Strayfire
Rookie
How does it compare? (For a multi, roughly speaking, YMMV)
Rexis 1.25mm
Power - Medium High
Feel - Very Crisp
Spin - Good
Durability - ??
Velocity 1.30mm
Power - Medium Low
Feel - Muted
Spin - Good
Durability - Quite Good
Multifeel 1.30mm
Power - Medium
Feel - Crisp
Spin - Average
Durability - Average
I would use Velocity and Multifeel in different frames - Velocity to soften up a frame, Multifeel to crisp up a frame or Rexis to really crisp up a frame. Then again I live in my own lala land of full bed multis. YMMV.
Pretty sure Multifeel comes in natural, black, pink and blue. The only missing colour would be yellow (which I might buy).
Guess I need to try PPC at some point then.
Rexis 1.25mm
Power - Medium High
Feel - Very Crisp
Spin - Good
Durability - ??
Velocity 1.30mm
Power - Medium Low
Feel - Muted
Spin - Good
Durability - Quite Good
Multifeel 1.30mm
Power - Medium
Feel - Crisp
Spin - Average
Durability - Average
I would use Velocity and Multifeel in different frames - Velocity to soften up a frame, Multifeel to crisp up a frame or Rexis to really crisp up a frame. Then again I live in my own lala land of full bed multis. YMMV.
Pretty sure Multifeel comes in natural, black, pink and blue. The only missing colour would be yellow (which I might buy).
Guess I need to try PPC at some point then.
graycrait
Legend
@Strayfire , I'll have to give Rexis a try some time. They don't give that string away, right up there in price with NXT, X-1 and NRG2. I see it is on sale now.
Strayfire
Rookie
Rexis here is cheaper than Multifeel/Sensation/Velocity by a fair margin. It competes with syngut here. It ought to be in this price range.
Rexis imho is not worth the investment in the USA. NRG2, X-1 are superior strings (albeit with different performance properties).
Power is on the higher side. It's like a poor man's NRG2 because the comfort isn't there.
I'll have a better feel on the string after a few more hits but that's how I feel about it now.
warney
Semi-Pro
Almost same rating from me but I use both in hybrid with Cream cross. For me spin is very similar with both setups. I definitely prefer feel of multifeel over Velocity. I have tried multifeel only in black.
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