Head Velocity

emn8

Rookie
How was the feel? Did the gut add any crispness to the stringbed? Biggest problem with fb velocity was being very muted.
Totally agree. FB V is very muted and in a countervail racquet which is muted to begin with just amplifys the issue. The gut to some extent negates this and I feel a bit more connected to the shot. Not sure crispness is the right word.


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emn8

Rookie
Definitely more with gut/poly but for a winter setup gut/V will do me just fine. With a semi western FH I don't miss it too much although the same can't be said for my flatter ohbh.

Spin is better than a FB of V in my opinion but then I'm just splitting hairs as the difference is not that significant

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Perhaps I need to try FB of V in the RF97A and not the Blade CV and see how that plays. May like it more in that racquet.

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Totally agree. FB V is very muted and in a countervail racquet which is muted to begin with just amplifys the issue. The gut to some extent negates this and I feel a bit more connected to the shot. Not sure crispness is the right word.


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Totally agree. FB V is very muted and in a countervail racquet which is muted to begin with just amplifys the issue. The gut to some extent negates this and I feel a bit more connected to the shot. Not sure crispness is the right word.


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Thanks for the reply. Connectedness is what I was looking for. Fb is difficult to discern where on the bed you are hitting. This sounds like an excellent hybrid, and I assume the comfort is up there with fb natty gut? I will try this whenever my arm heals up(work related, plus tennis).

Velocity seems like a second to none hybrid string. Works good with poly crosses too. I am interested to see how it works as a cross string with poly mains(assume it's a better cross string than synthetic gut). Slick, soft, and medium powered for a multi.
 

emn8

Rookie
Looks like the Klip I've ordered is out of stock and may take a few days to ship..darn.

Looks like I may give Velocity mains and revolve crosses a try after all.

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emn8

Rookie
Thanks for the reply. Connectedness is what I was looking for. Fb is difficult to discern where on the bed you are hitting. This sounds like an excellent hybrid, and I assume the comfort is up there with fb natty gut? I will try this whenever my arm heals up(work related, plus tennis).

Velocity seems like a second to none hybrid string. Works good with poly crosses too. I am interested to see how it works as a cross string with poly mains(assume it's a better cross string than synthetic gut). Slick, soft, and medium powered for a multi.
That's certainly true. Stringbed feedback was lacking. But like BBP suggested it could be something you get used to and like. It is an extremely arm friendly setup. Sweet spot in terms of tension seems to be around 50-54 or so going be the consensus. I've tried 54 and 52 and may give 50 a shot.

V and NG is definitely up there with FB NG..as close as you could get I suppose.

I've tried poly in the mains (hyper g 17) with V 16 and it was ok. Spin and control was good. Launch angle on an 18x20 was lower so that colored my view somewhat. V and max power was great just took its toll on me after a few sessions .. shoulder was aching for a few days.

Wish you a speedy recovery.


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That's certainly true. Stringbed feedback was lacking. But like BBP suggested it could be something you get used to and like. It is an extremely arm friendly setup. Sweet spot in terms of tension seems to be around 50-54 or so going be the consensus. I've tried 54 and 52 and may give 50 a shot.

V and NG is definitely up there with FB NG..as close as you could get I suppose.

I've tried poly in the mains (hyper g 17) with V 16 and it was ok. Spin and control was good. Launch angle on an 18x20 was lower so that colored my view somewhat. V and max power was great just took its toll on me after a few sessions .. shoulder was aching for a few days.

Wish you a speedy recovery.


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Thanks for the kind words. Seems to be taking forever to heal, but I'm not taking any chances of re-injuring it. Relating to your previous post, I think Velocity revolve should be excellent. Substituting velocity for gut, I bet it would play well with many of the cross strings recommended in the gut/poly thread like revolve or hawk. Velocity/Cream was good when really hitting out. Felt some slight shock on off-center hits and when hitting softly(Seems the general consensus with any poly), so good feedback. Feel was excellent with Synthetic gut/Velocity in my 18x20 Angell TC 97(Only a 3.0 player).

Looking forward to hearing what you think about V/Revolve if you end up trying it. Thanks for sharing your experience, helped convince me to try gut/Velocity.
 

Gamechanger

New User
I am searching for a good Multi, or Syn Gut for my students. (2.5- 4.0). Do you think Velocity is too low powered?
Do you have any Advice for a good Multi besides V? For the average Club Player? Thx
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
I am searching for a good Multi, or Syn Gut for my students. (2.5- 4.0). Do you think Velocity is too low powered?
Do you have any Advice for a good Multi besides V? For the average Club Player? Thx
That won't be based on level ... but rhs. Velocity works with decent rhs, but it's not for a player looking for added pop from a string. For example, my wife wouldn't like Velocity compared to her Sensation.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
That's certainly true. Stringbed feedback was lacking. But like BBP suggested it could be something you get used to and like. It is an extremely arm friendly setup. Sweet spot in terms of tension seems to be around 50-54 or so going be the consensus. I've tried 54 and 52 and may give 50 a shot.

V and NG is definitely up there with FB NG..as close as you could get I suppose.

I've tried poly in the mains (hyper g 17) with V 16 and it was ok. Spin and control was good. Launch angle on an 18x20 was lower so that colored my view somewhat. V and max power was great just took its toll on me after a few sessions .. shoulder was aching for a few days.

Wish you a speedy recovery.


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I just started videoing my ball machine sessions again. Judging by where I'm hitting my 2hbhs (tip) I might could have used the feedback. :eek: But then, feedback is only useful if you can correct the problem. It is one hell of a ad for Velocity ... "you won't even feel your mishits".
 

Gamechanger

New User
That won't be based on level ... but rhs. Velocity works with decent rhs, but it's not for a player looking for added pop from a string. For example, my wife wouldn't like Velocity compared to her Sensation.
So you think Velocity is only good for average Players with Rhs, that wants to play a multi that is near Poly? Then what is a good (more powered) Multi that stays even in the Stringbed( at lower Price)? Wilson Sensation? Or any other Advice? Cause not many Students who came from Poly likes to bring back Strings in Position after every Point.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
I do not know of any multi that stays in position for the life of the string bed. That includes Prince, Wilson and Tecnifibre multis. If you do not want to reset your mains after every point, go back to poly or use the Kevlar/ZX hybrid. If cost and comfort are your major concerns, you're going to have to live with string movement.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
So you think Velocity is only good for average Players with Rhs, that wants to play a multi that is near Poly? Then what is a good (more powered) Multi that stays even in the Stringbed( at lower Price)? Wilson Sensation? Or any other Advice? Cause not many Students who came from Poly likes to bring back Strings in Position after every Point.
Who said "average"? I play with FB Velocity ... and I'm better than average. :D

Other than full bed poly, gut/poly, gut/zx ... strings are probably not going to stay straight, particularly in open pattern racquets.

FB multi is going to move ... Velocity appears to be better than most here in reduced movement.

If it's beginners, developing stokes ... I would just tell them to straighten strings with a arm-friendly synthetic gut or multi as they learn strokes. I guess is they want to waste some $, FB gut would stay straight because it tends to lock up. The spin racquets are going to be the worse for string movement ... 18 x 20 the least, but most beginners probably don't start with a 18 x 20.

It's funny how we all got so "string straightening sensitive", including me. I played for 40+ years fine without ever worrying about straightening strings. Then I played with RPM for 5 years, and yeah ... it's pretty cool when strings don't move. Tell your beginners straight strings will be their reward later for learning their strokes safely.

All of that said, if one person in your group strings up FB Velocity, let others try it. Maybe I'm wrong ... it might work just fine for a beginner.

Also, unless they are hitting topspin, most strings aren't going to be moving that much.
 

emn8

Rookie
I just started videoing my ball machine sessions again. Judging by where I'm hitting my 2hbhs (tip) I might could have used the feedback. :eek: But then, feedback is only useful if you can correct the problem. It is one hell of a ad for Velocity ... "you won't even feel your mishits".
Ignorance is bliss [emoji6] as they say. No such thing as a shank with Velocity. Can see it working well in a stiff racquet where it's muteness is a value.

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emn8

Rookie
I play mostly 18x20 and as BBP and esgee48 have already alluded to V like any multi moves. Does it move as much as other Multis? I would suggest not, well from my experience anyway. I wouldn't class V as an ideal multi for 2.5-3.0 players because of its low power and their need to develop strokes and technique. Feel and feedback is not V's strong suit.

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emn8

Rookie
On the flip side a low powered multi might be just the ticket for beginners. Would encourage the development of full strokes as opposed to high power Multis/syn guts that will allow shorter strokes and/or bunting the ball back. Guess it comes down to individual style and coaching

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ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
On the flip side a low powered multi might be just the ticket for beginners. Would encourage the development of full strokes as opposed to high power Multis/syn guts that will allow shorter strokes and/or bunting the ball back. Guess it comes down to individual style and coaching

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Actually this is a good question. Is it helpful to encourage longer strokes from the start? Maybe I should donate my 7 month old ball machine balls. :D

But now you have me thinking ... don't give them the pop they think they want. Give them the cr@ppy trampoline Velocity. Tough love.
 

emn8

Rookie
Actually this is a good question. Is it helpful to encourage longer strokes from the start? Maybe I should donate my 7 month old ball machine balls. :D

But now you have me thinking ... don't give them the pop they think they want. Give them the cr@ppy trampoline Velocity. Tough love.
7 month old balls and a dead poly should do the trick. If TE from bad technique/form doesn't set them right nothing will.. Tough love indeed [emoji12]

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Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
On the flip side a low powered multi might be just the ticket for beginners. Would encourage the development of full strokes as opposed to high power Multis/syn guts that will allow shorter strokes and/or bunting the ball back. Guess it comes down to individual style and coaching

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Some of us grew up on wooden tennis racquets that we restrung every 3 years. Those things were weighty but low powered and you couldn't bunt. But they did encourage longer all arm strokes because of the small head size and heavy frame.
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
So one thing I do notice about this string is that its not as good on clay as it is on HC. The dust from the clay seems to adhere to the string and leads to increased friction. Strings move and stay out of place even early on in the string's life. Once you wipe them off and return to HC, the snapback comes back. Not sure there is a good solution to this.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
So one thing I do notice about this string is that its not as good on clay as it is on HC. The dust from the clay seems to adhere to the string and leads to increased friction. Strings move and stay out of place even early on in the string's life. Once you wipe them off and return to HC, the snapback comes back. Not sure there is a good solution to this.
Solution is to not play on dirt. :D Velocity can not be held responsible for dirt. I hate clay. I'm sure my legs from the knees to the ankles would like clay, but the rest of my body including the bottom of my feet hate clay. On my last USTA team we had a lot of guys, so we needed to rotate when we played. It was always "schedule the clay club match without BBP". Nice club ... except for the dirt.

Actually, makes sense the dirt would stick to Velocity. It definitely has some kind of oily surface. Hope it's not toxic.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Velocity 16g Natural 54#/17g Black 52# update (@9 hours ... not matches, just hitting and ball machine):

Short version:
- a couple of 50% notches, this is a little faster than fb 16g natural @55 and @52
- strings straight, which was the main reason I tried the hybrid
- like fb 16g natural @52 better ... both for feel (pocketing I think is it), and better spin for me (I expected the opposite)

Longer version (yeah, you know I have a longer version):

In order of my Velocity tests:

Velocity 16g Natural @55:
- best control of all setups, if I played tournament singles any more, probably would play this ... swing out
- control came at the cost of touch ... dropshots kind of brickish. String is muted to begin with
- got 30 hours until they broke (wow) ... played good until they broke, and stayed pretty much straight
- tension settled after approx 10% loss

Velocity 16g Natural @52:
- string feels much better at this tension, dropshots not brickish :D
- low powered string so still plenty of control
- seemed like spin was close to the same @52 and @55
- looked like I would have got 20-25 hours ... but cut out before broke for testing purposes. String was still playing the same
- tension settled after approx 10% loss
- strings moved more ... reason to try the hybrid

Velocity 16g Natural 54#/17g Black 52#
- good control ... close to fb 16g @55
- seems like less spin than fb 16 g natural (this makes no sense to me)
- don't like the feel as good as fb 16. I like all of these setups... could play with any of them and be happy, so just giving "head to head" comment
- strings straight at 9 hours
- 50% notch came a bit earlier @9 hours ... but not much. I guess 17g cuts in a bit faster.
- tension loss 12% after 9 hours (52.2 off stringer, 46.6 @9 hours ... 53.2, 49.4, 48.7, 47.9, 48.1, 47.6, 47.0, 46.6 ... would have stopped changing by now with 16g ... still great)

Humor: I'm doing my RT thing on that last reading, and kept getting 0.0. WTF ... I'm pinging the hell out of it with my screw driver. How can you get 0.0? Then I saw the dampener still in racquet. LOL ... but ZERO? I would not have expected that. :p

Only have about a month left of outdoor tennis. I won't play much in winter (maybe once a week), so not sure if I will test more this month.

Thoughts:

I suspect I just don't like 17g as good in this string (or maybe black plays different). A real test would need to be FB 17g black ... maybe @52. I intend to always keep FB 16g Natural @52 one racquet (ball machine and backup). The other racquet (match racquet) ... I can experiment. I want to experiment with it, because ball machine balls aren't the best test. You need to test in match conditions. So worse case if I pick something that sucks, I will just use the backup racquet until restringing.

What counts for more keeping mains straight? Tension (upping the tension to 54#) or differential. For example, one of the things I could try before giving up on hybrid is something like 16g @54/17G 50. I wonder if that couple of pounds less in cross would bump up the spin.

The other "next test" would be FB 17g black @52. I'm leaning in this direction because it should tell me if 17g (at least in black) is in or out (straight up head to head with 16g Natural @52).
 
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emn8

Rookie
Velocity 16g Natural 54#/17g Black 52# update (@9 hours ... not matches, just hitting and ball machine):

Short version:
- a couple of 50% notches, this is a little faster than fb 16g natural @55 and @52
- strings straight, which was the main reason I tried the hybrid
- like fb 16g natural @52 better ... both for feel (pocketing I think is it), and better spin for me (I expected the opposite)

Longer version (yeah, you know I have a longer version):

In order of my Velocity tests:

Velocity 16g Natural @55:
- best control of all setups, if I played tournament singles any more, probably would play this ... swing out
- control came at the cost of touch ... dropshots kind of brickish. String is muted to begin with
- got 30 hours until they broke (wow) ... played good until they broke, and stayed pretty much straight
- tension settled after approx 10% loss

Velocity 16g Natural @52:
- string feels much better at this tension, dropshots not brickish :D
- low powered string so still plenty of control
- seemed like spin was close to the same @52 and @55
- looked like I would have got 20-25 hours ... but cut out before broke for testing purposes. String was still playing the same
- tension settled after approx 10% loss
- strings moved more ... reason to try the hybrid

Velocity 16g Natural 54#/17g Black 52#
- good control ... close to fb 16g @55
- seems like less spin than fb 16 g natural (this makes no sense to me)
- don't like the feel as good as fb 16. I like all of these setups... could play with any of them and be happy, so just giving "head to head" comment
- strings straight at 9 hours
- 50% notch came a bit earlier @9 hours ... but not much. I guess 17g cuts in a bit faster.
- tension loss 12% after 9 hours (52.2 off stringer, 46.6 @9 hours ... 53.2, 49.4, 48.7, 47.9, 48.1, 47.6, 47.0, 46.6 ... would have stopped changing by now with 16g ... still great)

Humor: I'm doing my RT thing on that last reading, and kept getting 0.0. WTF ... I'm pinging the hell out of it with my screw driver. How can you get 0.0? Then I saw the dampener still in racquet. LOL ... but ZERO? I would not have expected that. [emoji14]

Only have about a month left of outdoor tennis. I won't play much in winter (maybe once a week), so not sure if I will test more this month.

Thoughts:

I suspect I just don't like 17g as good in this string (or maybe black plays different). I real test would need to be FB 17g black ... maybe @52. I intend to always keep FB 16g Natural @52 one racquet (ball machine and backup). The other racquet (match racquet) ... I can experiment. I want to experiment with it, because ball machine balls aren't the best test. You need to test in match conditions. So worse case if I pick something that sucks, I will just use the backup racquet until restringing.

What counts for more keeping mains straight? Tension (upping the tension to 54#) or differential. For example, one of the things I could try before giving up on hybrid is something like 16g @54/17G 50. I wonder if that couple of pounds less in cross would bump up the spin.

The other "next test" would be FB 17g black @52. I'm leaning in this direction because it should tell me if 17g (at least in black) is in or out (straight up head to head with 16g Natural @52).
Great review! Agree with a lot of your observations.

I'm using 17g black and it does notch quicker than 16g natural. Other than durability it plays very similar across the gauges. I prefer 16/17g @52. Any higher and touch shots suffer..but then my blade is very muted to begin with.

That is some serious value out of a string with the hours you got.

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ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Great review! Agree with a lot of your observations.

I'm using 17g black and it does notch quicker than 16g natural. Other than durability it plays very similar across the gauges. I prefer 16/17g @52. Any higher and touch shots suffer..but then my blade is very muted to begin with.

That is some serious value out of a string with the hours you got.

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So the 17g notches quicker even in FB? I was hoping it was maybe just a 17g black thing (harder coating), and it would fare better FB?

I won't repeat my crazy "rotate the racquet at 10-15 hours" thing again because these guys have heard it to often. The short version is with my wear pattern, I can rotate the other edge up and almost double my string life. I would probably snap Velocity around 15 hours ... but only because of a few bad notches (remember my NOT IN THE CENTER thing ... it's related).
 

emn8

Rookie
So the 17g notches quicker even in FB? I was hoping it was maybe just a 17g black thing (harder coating), and it would fare better FB?

I won't repeat my crazy "rotate the racquet at 10-15 hours" thing again because these guys have heard it to often. The short version is with my wear pattern, I can rotate the other edge up and almost double my string life. I would probably snap Velocity around 15 hours ... but only because of a few bad notches (remember my NOT IN THE CENTER thing ... it's related).
It did for me. Both in FB and hybrid with a poly. Didn't really affect playability for me though. Could play either. With HyperG had a locked stringbed after 6 hours or so. With 16g it may have been 7-8 hours.

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esgee48

G.O.A.T.
What counts for more keeping mains straight? Tension (upping the tension to 54#) or differential.
The answer depends as usual because the world is nothing but shades between Black and White in spite of our POTUS world view. It all depends on the string COFs and whether they would stick to each other at your main/cross tensions. You could increase main tension and if the resulting string was stiff enough, it will move if the cross tension remains the same. Or you could decrease the cross tension. If you use a high COF cross string, then the mains will not move well and when they do move, will stick. If you use a low COF string like ZX, then you could probably use any main at a reasonable tension.

Verbose, ain't I. :p For your particular case, I would drop the cross tension since the 17 Ga crosses are notching the 16 Ga mains. Increase tension of mains would also work, but at the cost of increased notching.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
The answer depends as usual because the world is nothing but shades between Black and White in spite of our POTUS world view. It all depends on the string COFs and whether they would stick to each other at your main/cross tensions. You could increase main tension and if the resulting string was stiff enough, it will move if the cross tension remains the same. Or you could decrease the cross tension. If you use a high COF cross string, then the mains will not move well and when they do move, will stick. If you use a low COF string like ZX, then you could probably use any main at a reasonable tension.

Verbose, ain't I. :p For your particular case, I would drop the cross tension since the 17 Ga crosses are notching the 16 Ga mains. Increase tension of mains would also work, but at the cost of increased notching.
A lot of words for "try 52/48"
 

emn8

Rookie
You guys got me. Strung 17 black full bed at 44 in the IG Prestige MP. We'll see.


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May help with pocketing and feel. Haven't gone that low myself. Will be interested to hear how it plays.

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ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
May help with pocketing and feel. Haven't gone that low myself. Will be interested to hear how it plays.

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I don't think anyone on this thread posted about trying it that low. I think 48-50. I won't go lower than 52 because I don't need to ... but have to say I am now curious. It's a weird multi ... might actually be playable mid-40s.
 

emn8

Rookie
I don't think anyone on this thread posted about trying it that low. I think 48-50. I won't go lower than 52 because I don't need to ... but have to say I am now curious. It's a weird multi ... might actually be playable mid-40s.
I'm inclined to agree. 50-52 seems low already and it plays pretty sweetly in this range - but like you i'm curious too. Have a feeling it might be too launchy - for me anyway.
 

emn8

Rookie
You have the stringer ... you have to be the tester. :D
Was hoping not to waste any of my precious V [emoji86] . Seeing as i have two reels though i will chance it for the greater good of this thread [emoji72] . 16g white or 17g black? Methinks 17g in my backup blade. Will string it up tomorrow and playtest it over a few days.

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ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Was hoping not to waste any of my precious V [emoji86] . Seeing as i have two reels though i will chance it for the greater good of this thread [emoji72] . 16g white or 17g black? Methinks 17g in my backup blade. Will string it up tomorrow and playtest it over a few days.

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Wow ... going the extra V mile... a true V brother. ;) Band of V Brothers. The V Mile.

V common good ... I like that.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
asked Shroud about CA fires and smoke. Are you dealing with it? Have you and Shroud met up ever?
When the wind comes from the North, you can smell the smoke. Sometimes it is REALLY bad, other times, not so bad. But the atmosphere is smoggy/hazy. Spectacular sunsets.

AFA as meeting others, nope. I frequent SF and points South. Too many groups and players on the Penninsula to go searching for more people to play. Rarely go across the SF Bay Bridge because traffic is awful.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Snapped V16/V17 today with ball machine ... 10 hours. Pretty sure I like 20-30 hours with FB 16 better. :eek:

Going to restring with FB 16 @52. Then at some point, will try FB 17 in the Tonic/Cream racquet ... just can't cut out gut when I only have 15ish hours on it and virtually no fraying or notching.
 
Hi folks,

There are almost 1000 posts maybe question is already been asked.

I'm testing the Babolat AeroProDrive GT 2013. My last setup was Head Lynx M @ 25 kg / X @24 kg at a CP Strinway machine.
I want to test with the Velocity as X with Head Lynx 17 and also as Main with Lynx as X.

What is your advice for both setups?

Thanks a lot
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Hi folks,

There are almost 1000 posts maybe question is already been asked.

I'm testing the Babolat AeroProDrive GT 2013. My last setup was Head Lynx M @ 25 kg / X @24 kg at a CP Strinway machine.
I want to test with the Velocity as X with Head Lynx 17 and also as Main with Lynx as X.

What is your advice for both setups?

Thanks a lot
I have never hit Lynx, but here is "some" feedback.

I liked fb RPM Blast 16g (lower powered than Lynx per TW reviews ... Lynx 70, RPM 43) @52 in a Babolat PD. I like fb Velocity 16g @52 in my V1 Pros. The V1 is similar power to PD, but less. I have never hit RPM in the V1.

The general experience in this thread from players that have played poly is V is pretty low powered for a multi ... and plays poly-like including tension preferences. I would say most settled @50-55#. I have played @55 and @52, and for me you get "more" feel @52. Feel isn't Velocity's best feature ... so a little lower tension helps, and still plenty of control.

Also ... mixture of 16g and 17g, and natural and black in this thread.
 

KluddKalle

Semi-Pro
I finally strung up my pure control tour with full bed velocity 16. Decided to drop the tension quite a lot compared to my regular setup (pure strike 24-25kg/52-55lbs). So it’s strung at 22kg/48lbs. It really worked just as good at that tension for me. The ball didn’t fly on me, actually I didn’t notice any big difference in power/trampoline effect. Of course, there’s a difference in the racquets but my pct was strung with syn gut before this and was launching the balls with ALOT more speed than velocity at 22kg.

So...I’m happy.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
I finally strung up my pure control tour with full bed velocity 16. Decided to drop the tension quite a lot compared to my regular setup (pure strike 24-25kg/52-55lbs). So it’s strung at 22kg/48lbs. It really worked just as good at that tension for me. The ball didn’t fly on me, actually I didn’t notice any big difference in power/trampoline effect. Of course, there’s a difference in the racquets but my pct was strung with syn gut before this and was launching the balls with ALOT more speed than velocity at 22kg.

So...I’m happy.
Cr@ppy trampoline comes through yet again.
 

g4driver

Hall of Fame
So you think Velocity is only good for average Players with Rhs, that wants to play a multi that is near Poly? Then what is a good (more powered) Multi that stays even in the Stringbed( at lower Price)? Wilson Sensation? Or any other Advice? Cause not many Students who came from Poly likes to bring back Strings in Position after every Point.
Gamechanger,

Head FXP is the best multi for staying straight in frame. It is the slickest multi I have ever strung and I string about 60 frames a month at home.

It is so slick, the standard bulky starting with two loops will pull through on a starting knot when using it as a cross string. Solution : make three loops for the starting knot.

Head FXP, Technibre HDX Tour and Wilson NXT all have poly fibers in these strings so somewhat lower powerful multis than their non-poly infused cousins.

I have 16g reels of Head FXP & Velocity, Technifibre X1 & NRG2, and several reels Prince Premier Control (15, 15L, 16). And a dozen plus packs of Technibre HDX Tour which holds tension better than any multi.

Head FXP behaves like no other multi I have found. Bonus: it is just $8.95 a pack when not on sale.

Read the thread on Mickler's multis. Great read on about 30 multis playtested by a USTA 4.5 guy. He and I have similar string favorites with the notable exception of Babolat Excel. That string is awful IMO. It is gummy.

He and I both agree that X1 Bi-phase plays closer to natural gut than any other multi. Considering I get Wilson Natural Gut or Lux Gut for less than $40 a pack, I choose natural gut/ Head Hawk for two of my frames.
 

emn8

Rookie
Gamechanger said:
So you think Velocity is only good for average Players with Rhs, that wants to play a multi that is near Poly? Then what is a good (more powered) Multi that stays even in the Stringbed( at lower Price)? Wilson Sensation? Or any other Advice? Cause not many Students who came from Poly likes to bring back Strings in Position after every Point.

Not sure I see the logic in that statement. Velocity plays quite dead for a multi so you have to generate your own power typically with increased rhs. X1 for example is the opposite in my experience - plenty of access to free power and suited to players with lower rhs.
Can't comment on FXP et al as I've not tried them. I'm a poly guy trying multi to get past a shoulder injury - typically played kirschbaum strings.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Gamechanger,

Head FXP is the best multi for staying straight in frame. It is the slickest multi I have ever strung and I string about 60 frames a month at home.

It is so slick, the standard bulky starting with two loops will pull through on a starting knot when using it as a cross string. Solution : make three loops for the starting knot.

Head FXP, Technibre HDX Tour and Wilson NXT all have poly fibers in these strings so somewhat lower powerful multis than their non-poly infused cousins.

I have 16g reels of Head FXP & Velocity, Technifibre X1 & NRG2, and several reels Prince Premier Control (15, 15L, 16). And a dozen plus packs of Technibre HDX Tour which holds tension better than any multi.

Head FXP behaves like no other multi I have found. Bonus: it is just $8.95 a pack when not on sale.

Read the thread on Mickler's multis. Great read on about 30 multis playtested by a USTA 4.5 guy. He and I have similar string favorites with the notable exception of Babolat Excel. That string is awful IMO. It is gummy.

He and I both agree that X1 Bi-phase plays closer to natural gut than any other multi. Considering I get Wilson Natural Gut or Lux Gut for less than $40 a pack, I choose natural gut/ Head Hawk for two of my frames.
I have probably asked this before:

- have you hit the following fb yourself? If so, how do they compare:

- velocity
- head fxp
- head fxp tour
- tf hdx tour

@scotus has played both Velocity and tf hdx tour ... and was really positive about fb tf hdx tour. I see a lot of other favorable comments on tf hdx tour. The tw review didn't give it great marks on spin. I always wish tw had reviewed Velocity so I could measure tw reviews against my experience.

Edit: What I wonder with my post TE elbow is if strings with "a little poly" hurt at 20 hours. When I reach 20 hours with fb Velocity 16g, I never have any thought of elbow risk. A little poly may be fine fresh ... but a "liitle dead" starts to have a cumulative effect.
 
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g4driver

Hall of Fame
@ByeByePoly,

I like TF hdx tour the most of each of the four you mentioned, but then again, I don't use full beds of multi and haven't since 2010 when I started using poly / multi hybrids, then went to full polys. I broke a full bed of HDX Tour 16 in less than 15 hours 3X. Multis are just too easily broken for me.

Head FXP is my favorite for people who fuss about string movement/ sticking out of place.

Not a fan of FXP Tour.

Velocity seems like TF multi-feel. It is a good value string at $10 a set and will replace my PPC reels when I run out of PPC. I buy multis by the reel as I use them mostly for crosses.
 
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Traffic

Hall of Fame
Snapped V16/V17 today with ball machine ... 10 hours. Pretty sure I like 20-30 hours with FB 16 better. :eek:

Going to restring with FB 16 @52. Then at some point, will try FB 17 in the Tonic/Cream racquet ... just can't cut out gut when I only have 15ish hours on it and virtually no fraying or notching.
I just cut out VS/Cream with only about 27hrs. Very light notching on the gut. Light fraying main and crosses. Played consistently. Probably would have gone 40+ hrs for me.

Just re-strung V1P#2 with Velocity/Cream @ 52/51. Tension recommendation by @esgee48 . Will give it a go. This will be my synthetic back-up. I felt FB V was too muted, too low powered. I actually like OGSM/V better for added feel and power and same spin.

Gonna hit the court this afternoon. If ball machine available, that will be great. Otherwise I'll just hit with my daughter. She's only 11 so won't be doing any real rallying. Just feeding her balls to work on her strokes. But son and his buddies will be in next court. Maybe I'll borrow one of them to hit with.
 

esgee48

G.O.A.T.
Don't blame me. I said to wait for wet weather unless it is already raining the Pacific North West. One of my clients is addicted to reading the Strings Forum. Looking for more power coming from RIP Control/poly; Tried the normal multis, but was not impressed with the spin production nor longevity. May be a good trial for this person with Cream or ZX 16 crosses.
 
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