Head Velocity

RayPS97

New User
Accidental fb Velocity discovery ... low (lower) tension fb V really good for spin ...
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I just had him string fb V @54lbs, and RT is 45lbs. Based on previous RT to DT (Racquettune) ... that would mean he strung at 47-48lbs. His stringing/machine doesn't vary, and he doesn't make mistakes ... he confirmed over phone he strung it @54lbs. No clue what happened.
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Meant to reply earlier but based upon my own experience it is easy for a stringer have an off day or the trait peculiar to humans called a "brain fart". I would say he made a mistake (RaquetTune is your evidence). My guess would be that he would have released the tension head and forgot to clamp off before. I wouldn't do it but I guess it is possible to just continue tensioning from that point and finish "the job" with an attendent loss of overall tension. Still, hard to imagine a 7 pound delta when your prior stringings were practically bang between RT and stringer set tension. Relationships/respect are fundamental aspect to any joint project such as the resultant the playability of a racquet. Though I understand the "respect" you have for your stringer, it might be a tad lower if you were me....just saying...
 

RayPS97

New User
I strung the racquet with the same strings traditionally before the Sergetti method@55.5/57 IBS and can say that Segetti play's better.

Still holding tension and the OGSM/ V I already had to cut it out.

This time strung with Technifibre Pro Red Code/ Velocity 52/55.5 IBS.

It isn't too bad, but spin is definitely reduced with a lower launch angle because the poly mains don't have the snap back effect.

Despite that control and comfort is there.

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I would agree that introducting deliberate tension loss on shorter strings (aka proportional stringing or Sergetti) tends to feel/play better with a wider sweet spot. The jury in this thread (from what I remember) is that the jury is still out on Velocity as a cross with Poly. Perhaps @USPTARF97 could chime in here on this? What were the downsides to the OGSM/V that had you cut it out as the OGSM lost tension ?
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
I would agree that introducting deliberate tension loss on shorter strings (aka proportional stringing or Sergetti) tends to feel/play better with a wider sweet spot. The jury in this thread (from what I remember) is that the jury is still out on Velocity as a cross with Poly. Perhaps @USPTARF97 could chime in here on this? What were the downsides to the OGSM/V that had you cut it out as the OGSM lost tension ?
Haven’t played Velocity as a cross with poly mains. Only the reverse. Using the RF97 for the last 5-6 years have found that a soft main is the way to go with a hybrid for playability. Had a reel of OGSM so figured it was worth a try even though OGSM is a bit stiffer than Velocity. OGSM/V is the set up in my frames now @ 55/53. 54/50 had a loss of control and 57/55 what’s fairly stiff in 50 degree weather. Velocity is a great string but a bit muted for me in the mains or full bed.The more powerful mains, such as NXT with Velocity crosses, is a great set up and I am looking forward to trying X-1 Biphase and Velocity Crosses.
Also interested in trying OGSM/Vel at the same tension like 54/54 and seeing the difference.
 
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ttc2000

Rookie
I would agree that introducting deliberate tension loss on shorter strings (aka proportional stringing or Sergetti) tends to feel/play better with a wider sweet spot. The jury in this thread (from what I remember) is that the jury is still out on Velocity as a cross with Poly. Perhaps @USPTARF97 could chime in here on this? What were the downsides to the OGSM/V that had you cut it out as the OGSM lost tension ?
Yes, OGSM lost tension and even with new balls it didn't feel that I had 100% confidence on groundstrokes.

This is even though velocity was still in good shape.

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ttc2000

Rookie
Haven’t played Velocity as a cross with poly mains. Only the reverse. Using the RF97 for the last 5-6 years have found that a soft main is the way to go with a hybrid for playability. Had a reel of OGSM so figured it was worth a try even though OGSM is a bit stiffer than Velocity. OGSM/V is the set up in my frames now @ 55/53. 54/50 had a loss of control and 57/55 what’s fairly stiff in 50 degree weather. Velocity is a great string but a bit muted for me in the mains or full bed.The more powerful mains, such as NXT with Velocity crosses, is a great set up and I am looking forward to trying X-1 Biphase and Velocity Crosses.
Also interested in trying OGSM/Vel at the same tension like 54/54 and seeing the difference.
I am yet to try full bed of velocity in the RF97, so will try it with a Sergetti method ref tension of 54 IBS.

This derived from 55/53 IBS and I agree that having a powerful soft mains with a poly cross is the way to go.

However with velocity I am yet to find a good combination cross to go with it.

Maybe the hawk rough is too low powered in this set up, so a 3.5 IBS drop isn't enough, so if I wanted 55.5/52 I should really go 55.5/49 IBS.

I won't be able to experiment this til coming spring now got 1 year end tournament and early Jan tournament abroad that I want to do well in.

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USPTARF97

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Yes, OGSM lost tension and even with new balls it didn't feel that I had 100% confidence on groundstrokes.

This is even though velocity was still in good shape.

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That was my thought process in going up a couple of pounds on the mains with OGSM/Velocity. Liked it better after it had settled and the OGSM definitely seemed to stretch more than Velocity. Prefer loose setups so maybe that’s why it hasn’t bothered me a whole lot. May try pre-stretching the OGSM mains and stringing 55/53. After that will try 54/54.
 

ttc2000

Rookie
That was my thought process in going up a couple of pounds on the mains with OGSM/Velocity. Liked it better after it had settled and the OGSM definitely seemed to stretch more than Velocity. Prefer loose setups so maybe that’s why it hasn’t bothered me a whole lot. May try pre-stretching the OGSM mains and stringing 55/53. After that will try 54/54.
Ah yes, I forgot that I can pre-stretch the OGSM mains.

Will give that a go.

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ttc2000

Rookie
That was my thought process in going up a couple of pounds on the mains with OGSM/Velocity. Liked it better after it had settled and the OGSM definitely seemed to stretch more than Velocity. Prefer loose setups so maybe that’s why it hasn’t bothered me a whole lot. May try pre-stretching the OGSM mains and stringing 55/53. After that will try 54/54.
Do you recommend trying the Six One 95 18x20 2017 with full bed of velocity 16g@48/46 IBS?

I do have Hyper G in 17g that you have tested. Would this be ideal @45/43 IBS?

Otherwise I will take 2 RF97's and 1 Six One 95 16x18 2014 all strung with full bed velocity abroad to play the tournaments.

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ttc2000

Rookie
Wow. Had an amazing session with a classic 1987 POG 110 strung with full bed Velocity@60/58 IBS.

It played better than the six one 95 16 x 18 2014 strung with full bed velocity @53/51 IBS that was strung maybe a month ago.

I rallied for an hour hitting topspin, flat and slice. It just felt so comfortable and connected.

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ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Wow. Had an amazing session with a classic 1987 POG 110 strung with full bed Velocity@60/58 IBS.

It played better than the six one 95 16 x 18 2014 strung with full bed velocity @53/51 IBS that was strung maybe a month ago.

I rallied for an hour hitting topspin, flat and slice. It just felt so comfortable and connected.

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That actually makes sense to me. Velocity is muted low-mid power, it feels better fb in my RA 68 Volkl than my RA 61 Yonex. I would have guessed Velocity would be a good non-poly choice with the bigger trampoline of a 110 (although 60lbs Velocity is probably to high for me in any racquet). If I switch to geezer flyswatter doubles racquet ... would try fb Velocity first.
 

USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Do you recommend trying the Six One 95 18x20 2017 with full bed of velocity 16g@48/46 IBS?

I do have Hyper G in 17g that you have tested. Would this be ideal @45/43 IBS?

Otherwise I will take 2 RF97's and 1 Six One 95 16x18 2014 all strung with full bed velocity abroad to play the tournaments.

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Would play with whatever frame you are most accustomed to start. String those two RF97’s with Hyper G 1.25 at 50lbs and you will probably get through the trip fine without stringing.
 

Jouke

Semi-Pro
Alright, you guys did it. Just bought a reel 1,25 natural colour. I string for a lot of people in our club. Mostly relatively new to Tennis, thought this would be a good string for them to start with. But now what to do? Full bed, or hybrid with gosen syn gut? ( Velocity in the crosses or in the mains?)
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Alright, you guys did it. Just bought a reel 1,25 natural colour. I string for a lot of people in our club. Mostly relatively new to Tennis, thought this would be a good string for them to start with. But now what to do? Full bed, or hybrid with gosen syn gut? ( Velocity in the crosses or in the mains?)
Start with fb ... best way to learn the characteristics of the string, and a base knowledge to experiment from. My 2 cents. I assume you have read enough to know it's not a powerful multi ... so I would not start any higher tension than mid-tension. If someone needs more power, mid-tension - 3-5 lbs. OK... that's up to 3 cents. :cool: Let us know who likes it, who hates it, who fired you as a stringer. :p

Edit: just noticed you got the 17g ... my tension suggestion was for 16g. Some of the 17g natural Velocity players can chime in.
 
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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
Strung my RF97’s at 55/53 with OGSM/ Vel and they play well. Strung one of them at 54/54 and it has more control and feels really solid at the same tension. If lost spin it is very marginal. Going to play same tension for awhile and either go up or down depending on playing inside or outside.
 

USPTARF97

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Just trained with a 5.0 guy on the clay. Did serve and volley drills cross court. Attacking the mid court ball, quick volley drills. Stringing same tension is the way to go with OGSM/ Vel.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Just trained with a 5.0 guy on the clay. Did serve and volley drills cross court. Attacking the mid court ball, quick volley drills. Stringing same tension is the way to go with OGSM/ Vel.
Some thoughts/speculation.

I would think with hybrids, or same fb string with diff, it's always "control" vs "spin/snapback".

Taking the easiest example, fb Velocity @54 would probably have marginally more control and less spin then fb Velocity 55/53. That's the theory anyway.

I would say it gets more complicated (or more guessing) when two strings are involved. I have never hit OGSM, so I will use Origin/Velocity as the example. I know from fb tests of both strings "control" is fb V @54/54 and O @58/58. If I was trying to match the fb V 54/54 control with O/V ... my logic says O/V 58/54. Note ... with that logic, it had nothing to do with desired/target differential ... it was simply using the tension for each string I prefer in a fb. Not perfect logic, because you have V mains @54 working together with V crosses @54 in the fb V @54/54 setup. There is no guarantee V cross @54 will have same dynamic wirh Origin mains @58. But ... pretty good ballpark you would think.

It seems even more complicated if you want that 2-3lbs differential equivalent of fb V @55/53 in O/V. If O/V @58/54 = V @55/53 ... then the 2lb differential in O/V would be something like 59/53. o_O

I guess my main point is "all 2 lbs differentials aren't equal". O/V 2 lb diff not equal to fb V 2 lb diff.

Add to the complexity ... @esgee48 will be along soon to explain how mains tend to settle out at crosses tension (or the opposite :p) ... and you really are just down to wild ass guessing.
 

ttc2000

Rookie
Some thoughts/speculation.

I would think with hybrids, or same fb string with diff, it's always "control" vs "spin/snapback".

Taking the easiest example, fb Velocity @54 would probably have marginally more control and less spin then fb Velocity 55/53. That's the theory anyway.

I would say it gets more complicated (or more guessing) when two strings are involved. I have never hit OGSM, so I will use Origin/Velocity as the example. I know from fb tests of both strings "control" is fb V @54/54 and O @58/58. If I was trying to match the fb V 54/54 control with O/V ... my logic says O/V 58/54. Note ... with that logic, it had nothing to do with desired/target differential ... it was simply using the tension for each string I prefer in a fb. Not perfect logic, because you have V mains @54 working together with V crosses @54 in the fb V @54/54 setup. There is no guarantee V cross @54 will have same dynamic wirh Origin mains @58. But ... pretty good ballpark you would think.

It seems even more complicated if you want that 2-3lbs differential equivalent of fb V @55/53 in O/V. If O/V @58/54 = V @55/53 ... then the 2lb differential in O/V would be something like 59/53. o_O

I guess my main point is "all 2 lbs differentials aren't equal". O/V 2 lb diff not equal to fb V 2 lb diff.

Add to the complexity ... @esgee48 will be along soon to explain how mains tend to settle out at crosses tension (or the opposite :p) ... and you really are just down to wild ass guessing.
It's all down to experimenting.

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USPTARF97

Hall of Fame
The infinite “hybrid” rabbit hole.
Agree with your theory, Makes sense, My thought was that I could string OGSM/Vel with 2lb differential at 55/53 and the tension loss of OGSM would be greater than Velocity and the string bed would feel controlled after the initial tension loss. Think I achieved that somewhat but it wasn’t equal to the control I got at 54/54.. left me thinking that the tension loss of both strings was about the same. The higher the differential the more control I lose with Gut/poly as well. Nice to get some snapback at a 3lb differential but anything 5lb and over I start giving up control of the ball for more spin.
 
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Jouke

Semi-Pro
Tried full bed of Velocity 1.25 at 22/21 kg. 18/19 String pattern. Very nice feeling but string didnt snap back at all. That sucks and makes a string unplayable for me. Now trying it in the mains with poly crosses
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
Agree with your theory, Makes sense, My thought was that I could string OGSM/Vel with 2lb differential at 55/53 and the tension loss of OGSM would be greater than Velocity and the string bed would feel controlled after the initial tension loss. Think I achieved that somewhat but it wasn’t equal to the control I got at 54/54.. left me thinking that the tension loss of both strings was about the same. The higher the differential the more control I lose with Gut/poly as well. Nice to get some snapback at a 3lb differential but anything 5lb and over I start giving up control of the ball for more spin.
Yeah ... I had that thought also, have to factor in different tension loss with both strings in your hybrid.
 

Traffic

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Some thoughts/speculation.

I would think with hybrids, or same fb string with diff, it's always "control" vs "spin/snapback".

Taking the easiest example, fb Velocity @54 would probably have marginally more control and less spin then fb Velocity 55/53. That's the theory anyway.

I would say it gets more complicated (or more guessing) when two strings are involved. I have never hit OGSM, so I will use Origin/Velocity as the example. I know from fb tests of both strings "control" is fb V @54/54 and O @58/58. If I was trying to match the fb V 54/54 control with O/V ... my logic says O/V 58/54. Note ... with that logic, it had nothing to do with desired/target differential ... it was simply using the tension for each string I prefer in a fb. Not perfect logic, because you have V mains @54 working together with V crosses @54 in the fb V @54/54 setup. There is no guarantee V cross @54 will have same dynamic wirh Origin mains @58. But ... pretty good ballpark you would think.

It seems even more complicated if you want that 2-3lbs differential equivalent of fb V @55/53 in O/V. If O/V @58/54 = V @55/53 ... then the 2lb differential in O/V would be something like 59/53. o_O

I guess my main point is "all 2 lbs differentials aren't equal". O/V 2 lb diff not equal to fb V 2 lb diff.

Add to the complexity ... @esgee48 will be along soon to explain how mains tend to settle out at crosses tension (or the opposite :p) ... and you really are just down to wild ass guessing.
I was about to give up on L/V setup as I thought it really abandoned me. Then I saw my notes that I strung it 10/25. So discounting the week in Florida for my son’s nationals, that’s 6 weeks.i feel like 4weeks is about the maximum playability before things start to change on me. No spin...hard to control.

So, guess OGSM/V will have to wait until after I cut out V and re-string just the cross. When I do, I’ll be targeting 53/51 with pre-stretch.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
I was about to give up on L/V setup as I thought it really abandoned me. Then I saw my notes that I strung it 10/25. So discounting the week in Florida for my son’s nationals, that’s 6 weeks.i feel like 4weeks is about the maximum playability before things start to change on me. No spin...hard to control.

So, guess OGSM/V will have to wait until after I cut out V and re-string just the cross. When I do, I’ll be targeting 53/51 with pre-stretch.
Jeeze ... thought 10/25 was your tension at first ... read too many buddy Shroud posts. :unsure:

You are still testing the sheep with Legend in the house? You are indeed a committed scientist.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
Tried full bed of Velocity 1.25 at 22/21 kg. 18/19 String pattern. Very nice feeling but string didnt snap back at all. That sucks and makes a string unplayable for me. Now trying it in the mains with poly crosses
Will be a little bit better but not much, unless you get into pulling the mains above 60.

I would say that the next string to look at for control/spin above V is isospeed cream.

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bertrevert

Hall of Fame
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OK into my Speed 360 MP is going V @ 52 in the mains, with volkl cyclone Bab Pro Hurricane @ 50 crosses
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Man o man, heaps more controlled power than fb of V: more spin.

Comfort: great.

Pro Hurricane (16) is listed as 86% energy return (V as 94%) and it is true I wanted a little less power last night, poly in the mains would have tamed that.
Quick (sorry: repetitive) update.

Man o man.

This V mains, Bab Pro Hurricane cross, is something else.

I can't explain the power that comes from it, the freedom to hit out, the afterburner pwr n spin co-poly provides.

Got on hardcourt last night and I swear it is the arrow not the Indian in this case - just mega powerful and accurate serves, just serious RoS surety and strength, just great groundstroking grunt...

Hard work in the gym, playing more often per week, a RoS lesson, strings bedded in (month old!), great recent racquet, and voila - prob best play in quite a while...

But I attribute a whole lot of this to the... strings. Tuned right it all feels like an extension of the arm, but the strings provide all the shape to the intention.

V is a control multi that, coupled with co-poly, is seriously strong. FB of V and I can throw the racquet at the ball and it all lands in. But put co-poly in the cross and it feels even more powerful I guess because I can throw the racquet even harder perhaps?

Unsure what is the go here but V is fantastic!
 

Nick777

Semi-Pro
Tested the velocity 1.25 natural FB in one of my dr98, really nice multi but on the crisper side, first impression its like a very soft poly to me, after a half an hour switced to my second dr with hybrid isospeed control classic /yptp and i think plays about the same comfort wise maybe even better, same tension both rackets probably V needs a brake period?
 

Big_Dangerous

Talk Tennis Guru
I'm curious to try this string out, but wondering about a few things. Normally, I use Cyclone in the mains and a multi in the crosses. I'm just wondering how this compares to a string like Cyclone. Obviously the feel will be much improved over a poly, but how much of a drop off in spin? Also, with polys, I tend to go lower 48-52 pounds, but with Multis I know it should be somewhere around 54-57 pounds.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
I'm curious to try this string out, but wondering about a few things. Normally, I use Cyclone in the mains and a multi in the crosses. I'm just wondering how this compares to a string like Cyclone. Obviously the feel will be much improved over a poly, but how much of a drop off in spin? Also, with polys, I tend to go lower 48-52 pounds, but with Multis I know it should be somewhere around 54-57 pounds.
Velocity is not a typical multi when it comes to feel, power and spin.

power: I used fb rpm blast 16g @52 ... and V @52. Sounds whack ... but you can see in this thread most of us kept lowering V tension.

spin: poly adjacent ... plan on 2/3 fb rpm blast spin. I have only played poly/nylon a couple of times, and spin never seemed close to fb poly to me. FB V might come pretty close to cyclone/multi spin.

feel: we all like different feel, and even describe a string differently. Most of us have found fb V muted, low to medium power for a multi, better than avg multi spin (slick coat, doesn't fray like a typical multi), not mushy.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
I'm really in a quandary about my tennis. Been enjoying Gut/Cream hybrid for its control and spin but last night i went out with my POG107 strung with good old Origin/Velocity. Playing in my higher level men's doubles group and totally kicked butt. Just screaming returns, getting great spin on kick serves, reflexing volleys into all sorts of difficult places. I've not been en fuego like that in a while.

I have literally no idea what I play best with these days. I've certainly settled on a lower tensions and slippery crosses and but I'm not as sure anymore that gut/poly beats Origin/Velocity for my game.

Anyways I'm restringing this week trying some other combos but maybe this hunt for the perfect combo is fruitless and just stick with something comfy and durable and learn to love it.
 

ByeByePoly

G.O.A.T.
I'm really in a quandary about my tennis. Been enjoying Gut/Cream hybrid for its control and spin but last night i went out with my POG107 strung with good old Origin/Velocity. Playing in my higher level men's doubles group and totally kicked butt. Just screaming returns, getting great spin on kick serves, reflexing volleys into all sorts of difficult places. I've not been en fuego like that in a while.

I have literally no idea what I play best with these days. I've certainly settled on a lower tensions and slippery crosses and but I'm not as sure anymore that gut/poly beats Origin/Velocity for my game.

Anyways I'm restringing this week trying some other combos but maybe this hunt for the perfect combo is fruitless and just stick with something comfy and durable and learn to love it.
I would have never been changing strings very often in my tournament days ... minimize the variables. But you play with more than one racquet ... string variations are a minor detail. :cool:
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
I would have never been changing strings very often in my tournament days ... minimize the variables. But you play with more than one racquet ... string variations are a minor detail. :cool:
Variables are nothing to me. Cerebral flexibility ;).

I have a playing partner that uses a different racket for serving and returning. Now that's real crazy. I at least stick with the racket i warmed up with.

I think it all comes down to the fact that its the human on the other side of the handle that matters most. So I think as long as I dial in the tensions well for the power level of the frame and stick with a soft, good tension maintenance main with a smooth slippery and muted cross string I'm good to go. Origin and Gut meet the mains criteria and Velocity and any smooth soft co-poly meet the crosses criteria.
 

Dartagnan64

Legend
Of course after a great night of doubles last Tues with my POG 107 and O/V, I got it re-strung with legend/Max Power and went out today and stuck the court up. Don't think it was the strings. Just couldn't command the racket. Switching to my 93P also strung with Legend/ Max power and played far better.

I think there are days your body just fits right with a racket and days it seems not to. Stupid sport.
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
I don't think V black gets enough credit on this thread as being a great replacement for a full poly job.

The overall tension doesn't need to be any different from what you string your typical poly. Although, to approximate poly snapback, I would suggest doing the center 4 mains 2-3 lbs above the other mains.

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Jouke

Semi-Pro
I don't think V black gets enough credit on this thread as being a great replacement for a full poly job.

The overall tension doesn't need to be any different from what you string your typical poly. Although, to approximate poly snapback, I would suggest doing the center 4 mains 2-3 lbs above the other mains.

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Full bed has no snap back at all imho. After 10 minutes strings were moving everywhere. Now will try V mains poly crosses
 

2nd Serve Ace

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Full bed has no snap back at all imho. After 10 minutes strings were moving everywhere. Now will try V mains poly crosses
I guess you didn't read my recommendation to do the 4 center mains 3 lbs up!

Also, do the top and bottom Xs a few lbs down, and make sure your clamps aren't slipping.

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Traffic

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Full bed has no snap back at all imho. After 10 minutes strings were moving everywhere. Now will try V mains poly crosses
I played fb V and it's got great control. But just lacked enough spin for me. When I crossed it with a poly, I got enough spin. Playing V/Cream, I got a low launch angle, enough spin, and it still was comfortable enough. Cream holds its tension pretty well and is one of the softer poly's. Beware, you need to restring at a regular interval as V loses its teeth.
 

ttc2000

Rookie
I haven't hit for 2 weeks, but full bed of Velocity strung with the Sergetti system with ref tension of 54 IBS deriving from 55/53 IBS on a Red RF97A felt really good.

Serves, groundstrokes, slice shots and volleys were good. However touch isn't great still.

I played a 19 year old and I had the upperhand for the first 5 games on an indoor carpet court.

I was 4-1 with a breakpoint to go 5-1, then I got too excited and played a few too many stupid drop shots. Double faults crept in too and lost 4-6.

However Velocity full bed is magical IMO vs the 19 year old with Babolat Pro Hurricane tour in his Head Speed 16x19.

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Nick777

Semi-Pro
Does anyone think that V 1.25 plays as comfortable as soft polys like cyclone tour, black venom, cream etc or is it my idea and is in fact more comfortable ?
 

gazz1

Rookie
I bought a reel of Velocity black.
Very good value for money.

I do prefer the MLT but not for the price.

My only problem with Velocity is that it gums up my clamps and I have to clean them.
It stretches so much during stringing that the string becomes thinner and slips through the clamps.

Other than that, it’s exceptional from a price/performance perspective
 

2nd Serve Ace

Hall of Fame
My only problem with Velocity is that it gums up my clamps and I have to clean them.
It stretches so much during stringing that the string becomes thinner and slips through the clamps.
I have this problem too. Must use my old floating clamps + the fixed to string Vb.

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Traffic

Hall of Fame
My only problem with Velocity is that it gums up my clamps and I have to clean them.
It stretches so much during stringing that the string becomes thinner and slips through the clamps.
I know what you mean. I think I have to clean my gripper. Was starting to slip when I was finishing up the crosses last night...
I find that pre-stretching V helps lessen the stretching during stringing a bit. Also takes up the initial loss in tension so I string slightly lower tension but it plays beautifully from day one. Typically I needed 1-2hrs of playing or sitting in my bag for a week to settle.
 

Nick777

Semi-Pro
I will buy a reel of V 1.25 but havent decided yet between natural and Black, played natural only, can someone compare between this two?
 

Micathra

New User
I played fb V and it's got great control. But just lacked enough spin for me. When I crossed it with a poly, I got enough spin. Playing V/Cream, I got a low launch angle, enough spin, and it still was comfortable enough. Cream holds its tension pretty well and is one of the softer poly's. Beware, you need to restring at a regular interval as V loses its teeth.
I had the same experience with a full bed of V so also experimenting with a poly to up the spin. Trying Volkl Cyclone Tour mains.

Why have you chosen to put V in the mains vs crosses? Is there much difference either way?
 

Micathra

New User
I know what you mean. I think I have to clean my gripper. Was starting to slip when I was finishing up the crosses last night...
I find that pre-stretching V helps lessen the stretching during stringing a bit. Also takes up the initial loss in tension so I string slightly lower tension but it plays beautifully from day one. Typically I needed 1-2hrs of playing or sitting in my bag for a week to settle.
How does one pre-stretch the string? I also felt a full bed of V played significantly better after around 3 hours and didn’t pre-stretch it beforehand.
 

ttc2000

Rookie
How does one pre-stretch the string? I also felt a full bed of V played significantly better after around 3 hours and didn’t pre-stretch it beforehand.
Either you use an electric tensioner with a pre-stretch function or you tension the string twice.

Otherwise the old fashion way is to use your hands to stretch it first.

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