Head Velocity

[liftordie]

Multifeel Black 1.30 is quite a special string and durable.

I will start with natural 1.35 to see the durability vs Velocity 1.40, PPC 1.40, Duramix 1.35, HDMX 1.35 and Triax 1.38.
I will also try some good sguts in 1.30 and 1.35 to see how it plays in fb. I know it will move a lot but maybe I will get a good surprise!

 

[Happi]

I will start with natural 1.35 to see the durability vs Velocity 1.40, PPC 1.40, Duramix 1.35, HDMX 1.35 and Triax 1.38.
I will also try some good sguts in 1.30 and 1.35 to see how it plays in fb. I know it will move a lot but maybe I will get a good surprise!

Just strung up a racquet for tomorrow with Triax, now lets see what all the fuss is about.

If you are en Europe I would be happy to cut you a set of MF Black 1.30, you should not miss out on that string.

Cheers, H

 

[liftordie]

Just strung up a racquet for tomorrow with Triax, now lets see what all the fuss is about.

If you are en Europe I would be happy to cut you a set of MF Black 1.30, you should not miss out on that string.

Cheers, H

That's really nice, man.
I will first try 1.35 to check the durability at the highest gauge.
I already tried Triax 1.38 and it was really good for spin/control but it breaks at 7 hours... Too short for the highest price on the multis market...

 

[ChanTen]

I get some string movement after 1h30 of playing with V natural 1.40 at 25kg in my Gravity S... Normal?

My string movement with FB V:
1 hr - 52 lbs, 50 lbs
30 mins - 48 lbs

Not so much when hybrid with MF.

 

[liftordie]

Why not using MF fb?? What the interest of V/MF hybrid??

 

[born_hard]

I want to string my racket today with 1,25mm Head Reflex fullbed. I have arm problems, wrist and shoulder injury in my 6th week and when i start playing again the priority is on soft arm friendly racket (Pro Kennex) and multi fullbed. What is a good strating point for the tension? Its a 100inch2 racket 16x20. It shouldnt be extremely loose cause of the string movement. I dont have Multifeel at my hand now, so multifullbed is the way to go, otherwise Multi/copoly but i a want first be sure that my arm will recover and the racket wont stop me with a too hard of strings.

 

[GravitysElbow]

I want to string my racket today with 1,25mm Head Reflex fullbed. I have arm problems, wrist and shoulder injury in my 6th week and when i start playing again the priority is on soft arm friendly racket (Pro Kennex) and multi fullbed. What is a good strating point for the tension? Its a 100inch2 racket 16x20. It shouldnt be extremely loose cause of the string movement. I dont have Multifeel at my hand now, so multifullbed is the way to go, otherwise Multi/copoly but i a want first be sure that my arm will recover and the racket wont stop me with a too hard of strings.

Great string for me, I have strung Reflex at 55lb in both my PK QTour and QTour Pro (98 sq in). Tension drops a bit initially but then stays fairly stable. Strung at 55 played about 50 give or take. It will notch fairly quickly if you hit hard and oddly I found it to stiffen up a bit as it got near the end of its life.

55 was comfortable enough for me. Personally I wouldn't string anything over 55 with arm issues and would consider lower given your racket might be stiffer.

This played OK for me, the only things I really struggled with were returns, which I tended to hit long, but that's my terrible tennis more than the string.

 

[liftordie]

Who tried V (or MF) crossed with sgut (PSGD or Head PPS)? I'm curious about control and snapback with that hybrid. Maybe a bit better than multi fb?...

 

[liftordie]

After 5h of play, V 1.40 natural is not moving so much finally... Very impressed by the durability and tension stability!! And great control for a multi! Spin is also very good. Like touch for dropshots. What a string for 70€ the reel... Thanks HEAD!!!!
And no more pain in the arm..... That's so good to feel good in your body the day after playing!!!

 

[liftordie]

Who tried V (or MF) crossed with sgut (PSGD or Head PPS)? I'm curious about control and snapback with that hybrid. Maybe a bit better than multi fb?...

No one?

 

[Happi]

No one?

MF Black is the best multi cross string for snap back. Synt gut moves all over the place for me.

 

[liftordie]

MF Black is the best multi cross string for snap back. Synt gut moves all over the place for me.

Even as a cross??

 

[Happi]

Even as a cross??

Works ok with poly mains, but with everything else there is too much friction. I tried Gosen Og, Prince Original, Forten sweet and Babolat and they are more or less the same.

Velocity mains and MF Black is a winner combo.

 

[liftordie]

Velocity mains and MF Black is a winner combo.

I trust you but it's an expensive combo...
I will try it soon with Velocity black 1.40. Just to see if it is really better than V fb.

 

[K1Y]

No one?

why would syn gut give more snapback... All I can think of is more powerful feel from syn gut. But depends on the syn gut. If you want more control and snapback you have to go poly cross. If thats too stiff then go with Happi his advice. If you just wanna get the cost down then yeah.. do syn gut, but don't see how that would improve control or snapback. Maybe control if it's a stiff syn gut then yeah.

 

[liftordie]

why would syn gut give more snapback... All I can think of is more powerful feel from syn gut. But depends on the syn gut. If you want more control and snapback you have to go poly cross. If thats too stiff then go with Happi his advice. If you just wanna get the cost down then yeah.. do syn gut, but don't see how that would improve control or snapback. Maybe control if it's a stiff syn gut then yeah.

Yes I was talking about stiff sgut like PSGD. I will try.

 

[dallastxtennis]

Which color do you guys prefer or they all play the same.

 

[K1Y]

Which color do you guys prefer or they all play the same.

Only played the yellow one in a cross with a round poly main lol but I'll say this: probaly the yellow not the best one, atleast I hope this is not the best one. 3rd hour and it starts to fray heavily. coating/color wears off and don't feel like it spins that well.

 

[Jimb33]

I actually have a reel in both 16 and 17g of both Velocity black and MF black, and I tried every possible combination, and to me the best was to keep the same gauge in both mains and crosses. I string fairly low compared to most here at TT, so 21kg main and 20kg MF cross, but you might like other tension you have to experiment a little to find your sweetspot. This is with 17g in a 18x20 100 head racquet, and 16g in a 16x19 95 head racquet.

Reflex is a great smooth string and it might work very well with MF.

My experience is when just off the stringer there seem to be very little snapback if you pull a main and let go, sort of disapointing. But let it rest overnight without playing, it has settled down and suddenly you will have the same snapback or even more that if you used a poly string as cross, so be patience.

Be sure to get the black MF

Looking forward to hear what you think.

V useful- will give it a try and report back for a couple of 98 frames 16 x 19 and 16 x 20.

 

[tobi9008]

Does velocity 16g work better / last longer with YPTA if put in the mains or crosses?
Fullbed V was good for my arm but felt dead very quickly in terms of spin potential.
If you would recommend cream over YPTA I'm open to that as well thought I just may take the softest poly first, but will rely on the crowd wisdom here.

 

[ChanTen]

Does velocity 16g work better / last longer with YPTA if put in the mains or crosses?
Fullbed V was good for my arm but felt dead very quickly in terms of spin potential.
If you would recommend cream over YPTA I'm open to that as well thought I just may take the softest poly first, but will rely on the crowd wisdom here.

I'm currently using Velocity 16 Black w/ YPTA in my Ezone 2022, and it has work better for me than a FB V, as at some point, FB V for me tends to be too launchy.

 

[51504Tennis]

Great thread and have read the 68 pages. I thought I’d offer my experiences.

I’ve been testing some multi strings for the last couple months due to some soreness in my right elbow. I play in a 4.0-4.5 doubles group and average 12-14 hours a week over 4 mornings. I utilize spin on my shots to pull an opponent off the court, to hit a deep heavy ball or when utilizing a second serve kick. Other than that, my shots are a little flatter. I hit with pace off both wings. Currently, I’m using a 2021 Yonex Vcore Pro 97d 18x20 rotating between two primary racquets with a couple in reserve. I string for myself on an Alpha Axis Speed with a Wise 2086.

I’ve tried black Velocity FB 17g @ 51lbs and after 2 hours the strings would start to move and would no longer snap back. The notches began to appear especially on the mains where they would slide over the crosses. This was to be expected.

I‘ve tried both Volkl Cyclone 17g and Cyclone tour 17g mains with Velocity 17g crosses at 46/51. After about 3 hours the notches would appear on the Velocity crosses and it would lock the mains from sliding and snapping back.

I switched it around and what a difference. I strung Velocity on the mains at 51lbs and Cyclone on the crosses at 46lbs. I average about 12 hours on this set up before I snap a main. Feel, touch, low power is there and even at 12 hours the Velocity glides over the Cyclone. Snapback is still present. Spin has not been an issue. I’m getting excellent performance from this set up during my weekly play. However, there is notching on the Velocity mains and is locked in place horizontally, which does not affect the mains performance or snapback. The mains still slide over the crosses with ease and slide back into place. And the biggest bonus is that I have not experienced any elbow pain since using Velocity.

I buy Cyclone and Velocity by the reel at $140 and $86 respectively. This works out to about $6.50 per string job at 38’ of string per racquet. Labor of course I provide. I do have to string about once a week though. Just my $.02

 

[ChanTen]

Great thread and have read the 68 pages. I thought I’d offer my experiences.

I’ve been testing some multi strings for the last couple months due to some soreness in my right elbow. I play in a 4.0-4.5 doubles group and average 12-14 hours a week over 4 mornings. I utilize spin on my shots to pull an opponent off the court, to hit a deep heavy ball or when utilizing a second serve kick. Other than that, my shots are a little flatter. I hit with pace off both wings. Currently, I’m using a 2021 Yonex Vcore Pro 97d 18x20 rotating between two primary racquets with a couple in reserve. I string for myself on an Alpha Axis Speed with a Wise 2086.

I’ve tried black Velocity FB 17g @ 51lbs and after 2 hours the strings would start to move and would no longer snap back. The notches began to appear especially on the mains where they would slide over the crosses. This was to be expected.

I‘ve tried both Volkl Cyclone 17g and Cyclone tour 17g mains with Velocity 17g crosses at 46/51. After about 3 hours the notches would appear on the Velocity crosses and it would lock the mains from sliding and snapping back.

I switched it around and what a difference. I strung Velocity on the mains at 51lbs and Cyclone on the crosses at 46lbs. I average about 12 hours on this set up before I snap a main. Feel, touch, low power is there and even at 12 hours the Velocity glides over the Cyclone. Snapback is still present. Spin has not been an issue. I’m getting excellent performance from this set up during my weekly play. However, there is notching on the Velocity mains and the Cyclone is locked in place horizontally, which does not affect the mains performance or snapback. And the biggest bonus is that I have not experienced any elbow pain since using Velocity.

I buy Cyclone and Velocity by the reel at $140 and $86 respectively. This works out to about $6.50 per string job at 38’ of string per racquet. Labor of course I provide. I do have to string about once a week though. Just my $.02

Arghh, been considering VCT for a long time, but hesitate due to it being a poly. Now your experiments makes me want to try this setup on my Ezone.

 

[51504Tennis]

Arghh, been considering VCT for a long time, but hesitate due to it being a poly. Now your experiments makes me want to try this setup on my Ezone.

I must say the Velocity slides and snaps back a bit better on the Cyclone instead of VCT. Durability is a bit better on Cyclone but maybe by only 30min to an hour. I’m assuming the twist on the VCT is a bit more harsh on the Velocity than the straight geared bevels on Cyclone. Both are very soft poly’s and the Velocity is mainly what you’ll feel, which is very arm friendly and lower powered than other multis.

 

[Happi]

For non poly users, try Multifeel black as cross string for Velocity mains, its a great soft setup with almost the same snapback as poly.

 

[liftordie]

I must say the Velocity slides and snaps back a bit better on the Cyclone instead of VCT. Durability is a bit better on Cyclone but maybe by only 30min to an hour. I’m assuming the twist on the VCT is a bit more harsh on the Velocity than the straight geared bevels on Cyclone. Both are very soft poly’s and the Velocity is mainly what you’ll feel, which is very arm friendly and lower powered than other multis.

Cyclone is not soft at all.

 

[liftordie]

For non poly users, try Multifeel black as cross string for Velocity mains, its a great soft setup with almost the same snapback as poly.

Same snapback when freshly strung...

 

[ChanTen]

For non poly users, try Multifeel black as cross string for Velocity mains, its a great soft setup with almost the same snapback as poly.

Didn't recognize you from your profile picture Happi haha.

 

[Happi]

Same snapback when freshly strung...

Yes, even more when freshly strung, but snapback does not last as long as poly. Be sure to get the MF black version, and its spin potential in TWU is up there with good polys.

 

[Happi]

Didn't recognize you from your profile picture Happi haha.

Big Marley fan

 

[liftordie]

Yes, even more when freshly strung, but snapback does not last as long as poly. Be sure to get the MF black version, and its spin potential in TWU is up there with good polys.

Yes but for a little time before the coating disappear... V/MF has better snapback than full V but for 2 hours... And control is better with V fb. MF is too powerful.
But I agree with you, V/MF is a good hybrid. But really too expensive for what it gets compare to full V.

 

[51504Tennis]

Cyclone is not soft at all.

cyclone is much softer than many other polys out there. But for plush softness, VCT does the trick. But VCT tears through the Velocity much quicker for me.Also, the Velocity on the mains does a pretty good job at softening up either poly. And again, this has been my experience and others may have much more sensitive arms than me. This set up really helped alleviate the TE that was starting to develop with fb of other polys I was using. This may not work for everyone. I actually wanted to highlight that it roughly costs $25 a month to play with a freshly strung racquet every 10-14 hours, or in my case a week of play. This is if you string for yourself. I know a lot of people that spend that a week on Starbucks lol.

 

[liftordie]

cyclone is much softer than many other polys out there. But for plush softness, VCT does the trick. But VCT tears through the Velocity much quicker for me.Also, the Velocity on the mains does a pretty good job at softening up either poly. And again, this has been my experience and others may have much more sensitive arms than me. This set up really helped alleviate the TE that was starting to develop with fb of other polys I was using. This may not work for everyone. I actually wanted to highlight that it roughly costs $25 a month to play with a freshly strung racquet every 10-14 hours, or in my case a week of play. This is if you string for yourself. I know a lot of people that spend that a week on Starbucks lol.

You break the V main at 10 hours?

 

[51504Tennis]

You break the V main at 10 hours?

Sometimes. But most of the time it’s been at about the 12hr mark when using Cyclone crosses. The Velocity is pretty notched at this point from sliding over the poly. VCT is about 10 hours or even less. I think the twist on VCT cuts through the V quicker.

In fact, I just got done stringing my racquet as I snapped one of the mains in the third set today. I knew I didn’t have long when I started playing this morning. But up until then, the performance was pretty consistent. I did hit longer than normal on a couple of shots but I think it was me. Control on the serves was a little less as well. I snapped the main on a second serve where I use a lot of kick.

 

[eminaise]

For non poly users, try Multifeel black as cross string for Velocity mains, its a great soft setup with almost the same snapback as poly.

Using a blade 104v8 with some arm issues when I tried and liked Mayami tour hex... love the spin until the pain.
Normally use YPTP yellow at 52, but the TE sneaks back in after 2 sets...
Tried V mains @ 56 and Kirshbaum PLII crosses @ 52 and didn't like it at all.
other racket is stung with Triax 1.28 at 56 and it's plush and soft, but not enough spin.

If using V mains 1.30 and MF crosses 1.30 would you recommend the same tension on mains and crosses?

 

[Happi]

Using a blade 104v8 with some arm issues when I tried and liked Mayami tour hex... love the spin until the pain.
Normally use YPTP yellow at 52, but the TE sneaks back in after 2 sets...
Tried V mains @ 56 and Kirshbaum PLII crosses @ 52 and didn't like it at all.
other racket is stung with Triax 1.28 at 56 and it's plush and soft, but not enough spin.

If using V mains 1.30 and MF crosses 1.30 would you recommend the same tension on mains and crosses?

I generally string mains and crosses at the same tension if same type of string. So yes, and let us know what you think.

 

[liftordie]

V 1.40 black crossed with PSGD 1.30 black is a great hybrid for saving your arm while keeping good spin and control. Durability is also there.

 

[liftordie]

And it's really cheap for the quality.
I will also try Pro's Pro Synthetic 1.30 black as a cross to compare. It would be even smoother on the wallet.

 

[ChanTen]

Using a blade 104v8 with some arm issues when I tried and liked Mayami tour hex... love the spin until the pain.
Normally use YPTP yellow at 52, but the TE sneaks back in after 2 sets...
Tried V mains @ 56 and Kirshbaum PLII crosses @ 52 and didn't like it at all.
other racket is stung with Triax 1.28 at 56 and it's plush and soft, but not enough spin.

If using V mains 1.30 and MF crosses 1.30 would you recommend the same tension on mains and crosses?

I have tried strung MF on main w/ V on the cross, at 50/48 on a Clash 100 V2 for my wife's racket, so far so good.

 

[QQQ]

How long would you guys use the Velocity as a cross?

I love using Velocity as a cross for the Black code main.
The problem is that after 2-3 hours, the string starts to notch and the coating is gone in the area that I hit.
Would you cut it as soon as the notch appeared or wait until it snapped?

 

[liftordie]

How long would you guys use the Velocity as a cross?

I love using Velocity as a cross for the Black code main.
The problem is that after 2-3 hours, the string starts to notch and the coating is gone in the area that I hit.
Would you cut it as soon as the notch appeared or wait until it snapped?

If you have one racket, cut. If you have two, wait.

 

[superjon027]

Tried Velocity (natural) as a cross with Lynx Tour Mains in the RF97. Played about an hour with it. No notching, but the Velocity has a bunch of court dirt and felt stuck onto it preventing snapback. Wont come off unless I dig my nails in and scratch every individual string. Have you guys experienced this?

 

[eminaise]

I generally string mains and crosses at the same tension if same type of string. So yes, and let us know what you think.

I know this is a velocity thread, but tried MF / PLII hybrid and really loved it, except for the fact it broke after 4.5 hours (3 1.5 hour sessions). Trying Velocity / MF combo now (both black). Stringing the Velocity at 55 and MF at 52. Will update.

 

[liftordie]

I know this is a velocity thread, but tried MF / PLII hybrid and really loved it, except for the fact it broke after 4.5 hours (3 1.5 hour sessions). Trying Velocity / MF combo now (both black). Stringing the Velocity at 55 and MF at 52. Will update.

55/55 would be better.

 

[ByeByePoly]

I know this is a velocity thread, but tried MF / PLII hybrid and really loved it, except for the fact it broke after 4.5 hours (3 1.5 hour sessions). Trying Velocity / MF combo now (both black). Stringing the Velocity at 55 and MF at 52. Will update.

V @52 better than V @55 ...

 

[51504Tennis]

Great thread and have read the 68 pages. I thought I’d offer my experiences.

I’ve been testing some multi strings for the last couple months due to some soreness in my right elbow. I play in a 4.0-4.5 doubles group and average 12-14 hours a week over 4 mornings. I utilize spin on my shots to pull an opponent off the court, to hit a deep heavy ball or when utilizing a second serve kick. Other than that, my shots are a little flatter. I hit with pace off both wings. Currently, I’m using a 2021 Yonex Vcore Pro 97d 18x20 rotating between two primary racquets with a couple in reserve. I string for myself on an Alpha Axis Speed with a Wise 2086.

I’ve tried black Velocity FB 17g @ 51lbs and after 2 hours the strings would start to move and would no longer snap back. The notches began to appear especially on the mains where they would slide over the crosses. This was to be expected.

I‘ve tried both Volkl Cyclone 17g and Cyclone tour 17g mains with Velocity 17g crosses at 46/51. After about 3 hours the notches would appear on the Velocity crosses and it would lock the mains from sliding and snapping back.

I switched it around and what a difference. I strung Velocity on the mains at 51lbs and Cyclone on the crosses at 46lbs. I average about 12 hours on this set up before I snap a main. Feel, touch, low power is there and even at 12 hours the Velocity glides over the Cyclone. Snapback is still present. Spin has not been an issue. I’m getting excellent performance from this set up during my weekly play. However, there is notching on the Velocity mains and is locked in place horizontally, which does not affect the mains performance or snapback. The mains still slide over the crosses with ease and slide back into place. And the biggest bonus is that I have not experienced any elbow pain since using Velocity.

I buy Cyclone and Velocity by the reel at $140 and $86 respectively. This works out to about $6.50 per string job at 38’ of string per racquet. Labor of course I provide. I do have to string about once a week though. Just my $.02

Just an update to my original post as my journey with Velocity continues. I currently am testing Prince Tour XP 17 as it is a smooth poly for use as a cross. I really loved the performance of the Cyclone cross but the Prince strings really help with snapback (the MLT does not move out of place much), tension maintenance and most importantly, durability. I get about 6 more hours of play before I snap a main, for a total of 18-20hrs. I don’t usually like to play with a poly after this many hours, so it’s pretty convenient that the main snaps at about this time. This set up feels much like my set up with Cyclone, but just a tad more feel. Ultimately, the Velocity begins to notch as it slides over the XP, but it still slides back into place.

 

[liftordie]

V @52 better than V @55 ...

V at 55 for more control.

 

[ByeByePoly]

V at 55 for more control.

Weird multi … control but touch/feel challenged.

For me … and most in this thread, V woke up a lot around 52, still with control. It is definitely worth trying at least once if one hasn’t dropped below 55.

 

[liftordie]

Weird multi … control but touch/feel challenged.

For me … and most in this thread, V woke up a lot around 52, still with control. It is definitely worth trying at least once if one hasn’t dropped below 55.

I will try.
What is your gauge?

 

[ByeByePoly]

I will try.
What is your gauge?

16g natural fullbed

How weird is it to play a multi at same tension I preferred rpm blast? Just for reference ... I always preferred other multis I have tried at mid-tension (55 lbs). Played for years with Wilson Sensation @55.

If hybrid instead of fb ... always a chance other string might influence your tension preference. For me ... I always started with fb ... and whatever tension I preferred was what I would string that at in a hybrid. For example ... I liked Velocity/Cream @52/48.

I will search for my old V/Cream comments in this thread and link in this post:

Edit: post 722 ... half a decade ago

Head Velocity

It's been a while since I checked in. I'm glad you guys are enjoying Velocity. I have a confession to make though. I cheated and strung my DR100 with a full bed of VS Gut yesterday. This is my first time hitting Gut and I like her. A lot.

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