Head Velocity

[jmacdaununder2]

X-One mains/Velocity black crosses 1.30M/1.30X was comfortably crisp and direct once settled in; RPM Soft mains/Velocity black crosses 1.30M/1.30X felt more muted, even more comfortable & was good from the get go; slightly less sensation/perception of producing spin with the latter set up, but this could have been the relative muteness of the RPM Soft. I haven’t tried either X-One or RPM Soft full bed, so I may just be describing the relative playability of the mains to some degree.

 

[d20g]

I've been using velocity 16g at 52lbs for almost 4 months on a Ezone 98 2020.
I'm beginner (playing for 1 year)
My balls all land near the service box and I have to make a lot of effort for them to land further I just got it strung at 50lbs to see if it helps me with power.
I also bought some cream 16g to use as a cross just because I want to start my string experiment and get some knowledge on strings.

Should I go velocity 52/ Cream 48?

 

[TBM]

I've been using velocity 16g at 52lbs for almost 4 months on a Ezone 98 2020.
I'm beginner (playing for 1 year)
My balls all land near the service box and I have to make a lot of effort for them to land further I just got it strung at 50lbs to see if it helps me with power.
I also bought some cream 16g to use as a cross just because I want to start my string experiment and get some knowledge on strings.

Should I go velocity 52/ Cream 48?

52/48 sounds like a good place to start.

 

[PurcellPower]

50/46 or 48/46 on an Ezone 98. You already stated you need more power, so why would you keep it at 52 on velocity when you already lack power and you will be firming up the bed with the cream as well? The 98 is a fairly tight 16X19 with 8 mains in the throat. It can be strung lower as the recommended range is 45-60.

 

[tele]

I've been using velocity 16g at 52lbs for almost 4 months on a Ezone 98 2020.
I'm beginner (playing for 1 year)
My balls all land near the service box and I have to make a lot of effort for them to land further I just got it strung at 50lbs to see if it helps me with power.
I also bought some cream 16g to use as a cross just because I want to start my string experiment and get some knowledge on strings.

Should I go velocity 52/ Cream 48?

in the interest of your arm, it might be good to wait on poly crosses(even cream will make the string bed significantly stiffer and will probably go dead before you break the mains) until you are hitting the ball too deep too often and have developed good technique. focus on learning to swing with your body (feel tennis on youtube is a good resource for beginners) and you will find plenty of power with a multi in an ezone 98.

if you want more power, in addition to lowering tension on velocity, x one biphase or nrg could be worth a try.

 

[d20g]

50/46 or 48/46 on an Ezone 98. You already stated you need more power, so why would you keep it at 52 on velocity when you already lack power and you will be firming up the bed with the cream as well? The 98 is a fairly tight 16X19 with 8 mains in the throat. It can be strung lower as the recommended range is 45-60.

I thought about 52/48 because reading the thread I figured it was a good starting point.
But you'll might be right, I'm just afraid it becomes two powerful. I'll hit for the first time with full bed V at 50lbs in a few hours and let's see if I can notice any difference.

in the interest of your arm, it might be good to wait on poly crosses(even cream will make the string bed significantly stiffer and will probably go dead before you break the mains) until you are hitting the ball too deep too often and have developed good technique. focus on learning to swing with your body (feel tennis on youtube is a good resource for beginners) and you will find plenty of power with a multi in an ezone 98.

if you want more power, in addition to lowering tension on velocity, x one biphase or nrg could be worth a try.

Full bed Velocity is lasting me 40hours / 2 months.
I'll string this once for curiosity sake and I promise I'll cut it on the 20hours mark / 1 month.
I have a coach 4/6hours a week so my technic is very good, we've been working hard on the weight transfer and Kinect chain lately.

 

[d20g]

50/46 or 48/46 on an Ezone 98. You already stated you need more power, so why would you keep it at 52 on velocity when you already lack power and you will be firming up the bed with the cream as well? The 98 is a fairly tight 16X19 with 8 mains in the throat. It can be strung lower as the recommended range is 45-60.

So full bed V at 50lbs felt awesome and gave me the power I was looking for but I have to hit right at the sweetspot otherwise the ball launches.
Would it be worth to try full bed V 52Main/50Cross ?
Would cream as a cross at 48 be more or less powerful than Velocity cross at 50?

 

[LOBALOT]

So full bed V at 50lbs felt awesome and gave me the power I was looking for but I have to hit right at the sweetspot otherwise the ball launches.
Would it be worth to try full bed V 52Main/50Cross ?
Would cream as a cross at 48 be more or less powerful than Velocity cross at 50?

I string a lot of Velocity hybrids with poly and it is a great setup. It depends on the player and racquet but I could see 53 V/48 Cream or GW or Silverstring or Big Hitter Silver.... All great options to try and tinker with as far as crosses and could also try different tensions as well.

In my opinion I actually prefer multi's in a hybrid unless the player has arm issues or prefers a cushy ride.

 

[liftordie]

I string a lot of Velocity hybrids with poly and it is a great setup. It depends on the player and racquet but I could see 53 V/48 Cream or GW or Silverstring or Big Hitter Silver.... All great options to try and tinker with as far as crosses and could also try different tensions as well.

In my opinion I actually prefer multi's in a hybrid unless the player has arm issues or prefers a cushy ride.

What gauge of V and poly cross would you recommend?

 

[LOBALOT]

What gauge of V and poly cross would you recommend?

Personally I go 16G V / 17G Poly. However, it all depends on the player. I have a kid I string for that insists on multi/poly hybrid even though he is a pretty decent strong player and we started having problems keeping it in his racquet so we are stringing with 15LG V / 16L Isospeed Cream. He was using Revolve 16G as a cross but he felt it was a tad stiff for his liking. I usually start with 16/17 hybrids and if needed adjust from there based on what happens.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

I string a lot of Velocity hybrids with poly and it is a great setup. It depends on the player and racquet but I could see 53 V/48 Cream or GW or Silverstring or Big Hitter Silver.... All great options to try and tinker with as far as crosses and could also try different tensions as well.

In my opinion I actually prefer multi's in a hybrid unless the player has arm issues or prefers a cushy ride.

But which is best as a cross Velocity, PPC, cream, msv swift?!

 

[LOBALOT]

But which is best as a cross Velocity, PPC, cream, msv swift?!

There is no best. Everyone is different in how they play and what they prefer from a string.

Personally, I would not put a multi like velocity in a cross unless it were a full bed but as I indicated I like to cross multi or gut for that mater with poly.

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

There is no best. Everyone is different in how they play and what they prefer from a string.

Personally, I would not put a multi like velocity in a cross unless it were a full bed but as I indicated I like to cross multi or gut for that mater with poly.

Nonsense I need to know

There is no best. Everyone is different in how they play and what they prefer from a string.

Personally, I would not put a multi like velocity in a cross unless it were a full bed but as I indicated I like to cross multi or gut for that mater with poly.

Well which as cross would maintain the most snapback with restring zero mains while doing a lot to ease up the stringbed stiffness?

 

[tele]

Nonsense I need to know

Well which as cross would maintain the most snapback with restring zero mains while doing a lot to ease up the stringbed stiffness?

the smooth polys(cream, swift) will maintain most snapback, and the nylon options will do the most to reduce stiffness. really depends on whether cream and swift are soft enough for you.

 

[Happi]

Nonsense I need to know

Well which as cross would maintain the most snapback with restring zero mains while doing a lot to ease up the stringbed stiffness?

Multifeel black

 

[ByeByePoly]

So full bed V at 50lbs felt awesome and gave me the power I was looking for but I have to hit right at the sweetspot otherwise the ball launches.
Would it be worth to try full bed V 52Main/50Cross ?
Would cream as a cross at 48 be more or less powerful than Velocity cross at 50?

I will throw in 2 cents worth of consideration. An experienced player that has already grooved their strokes will match string choice and tension to their swing speed, feel, and spin preferences. It’s trickier for someone that is at the start or middle … your swing speed could be increasing monthly. Are you better off … say matching to current swing with V @50 … or better off sticking with V @52 and gradually improving swing speed and depth (also … depth isn’t just string tension … aim higher ). No right answer … but I would say a wrong answer is a string and tension you can’t currently keep in the court.

Edit: sitting here thinking about it … fb V @55 might be the best tennis newbie teaching aid ever invented.

 

[EggSalad]

I've been using velocity 16g at 52lbs for almost 4 months on a Ezone 98 2020.
I'm beginner (playing for 1 year)
My balls all land near the service box and I have to make a lot of effort for them to land further I just got it strung at 50lbs to see if it helps me with power.
I also bought some cream 16g to use as a cross just because I want to start my string experiment and get some knowledge on strings.

Should I go velocity 52/ Cream 48?

You should try 1.25 gauge Velocity and string at 52lbs.

 

[jhick]

Currently my hybrid setup is Velocity 54 mains with Ghost Wire in the crosses at 48. I like it but I think I prefer Gosen AK Pro CX in the mains. But Velocity is still a nice string.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

I will throw in 2 cents worth of consideration. An experienced player that has already grooved their strokes will match string choice and tension to their swing speed, feel, and spin preferences. It’s trickier for someone that is at the start or middle … your swing speed could be increasing monthly. Are you better off … say matching to current swing with V @50 … or better off sticking with V @52 and gradually improving swing speed and depth (also … depth isn’t just string tension … aim higher ). No right answer … but I would say a wrong answer is a string and tension you can’t currently keep in the court.

Edit: sitting here thinking about it … fb V @55 might be the best tennis newbie teaching aid ever invented.

Howdy!
How do you find Pickleball compares with tennis in terms of impact stress? Just asking as your arm is presumably still something of a canary in a coal mine & I’ve still got my Pickleball ‘V’ plates.

 

[ByeByePoly]

Howdy!
How do you find Pickleball compares with tennis in terms of impact stress? Just asking as your arm is presumably still something of a canary in a coal mine & I’ve still got my Pickleball ‘V’ plates.

hey Jmac … hope all is well. You have me stumped with “Pickleball ‘V’ plates” …

My elbow has actually given a couple of “you can’t be serious with this paddle thing” warning twinges, but simply rubbing the forearm silences the commentary. My guess is that it has little to do with smacking a 26g wiffle … and more to do with constant ping pong backhand poking during kitchen firefights. The entire kitchen invention just ain’t right. There are several elbow straps where we play … so something is getting them. It’s a fertile hunting ground for terrible backhand technique … but they hide those backhands in pball doubles better than my squirrels in the backyard hide the walnuts.

 

[d20g]

I will throw in 2 cents worth of consideration. An experienced player that has already grooved their strokes will match string choice and tension to their swing speed, feel, and spin preferences. It’s trickier for someone that is at the start or middle … your swing speed could be increasing monthly. Are you better off … say matching to current swing with V @50 … or better off sticking with V @52 and gradually improving swing speed and depth (also … depth isn’t just string tension … aim higher ). No right answer … but I would say a wrong answer is a string and tension you can’t currently keep in the court.

Edit: sitting here thinking about it … fb V @55 might be the best tennis newbie teaching aid ever invented.

I think I get the idea. It's hard to control anxiety and we tend to look for quick fixes.
I definitely haven't developed a proper swing as of yet and I'm better off with a string that will allow me to increase my swing speed helping me with control and keeping the ball in.

 

[ByeByePoly]

I think I get the idea. It's hard to control anxiety and we tend to look for quick fixes.
I definitely haven't developed a proper swing as of yet and I'm better off with a string that will allow me to increase my swing speed helping me with control and keeping the ball in.

Play with a string and opponents where you get to hit a lot of balls … rites of passage. Enjoy the ride.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

hey Jmac … hope all is well. You have me stumped with “Pickleball ‘V’ plates” …

My elbow has actually given a couple of “you can’t be serious with this paddle thing” warning twinges, but simply rubbing the forearm silences the commentary. My guess is that it has little to do with smacking a 26g wiffle … and more to do with constant ping pong backhand poking during kitchen firefights. The entire kitchen invention just ain’t right. There are several elbow straps where we play … so something is getting them. It’s a fertile hunting ground for terrible backhand technique … but they hide those backhands in pball doubles better than my squirrels in the backyard hide the walnuts.

Ah yes, the hidden backhand theory appears to work all the way up to Jack Sock level.
"'V' plates" is an Australian - or perhaps maybe even localized to the State of Victoria & our eponymous licence plates - expression for an individual who has yet to indulge in certain rite of passage activities - for ex. 'I finally lost my 'V' plates with Melissa last night...'.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

Sadly I've yet to try Pickleball & so I remain a Pickleball 'V' plater...

 

[Aestheticsaboveallelse]

I will throw in 2 cents worth of consideration. An experienced player that has already grooved their strokes will match string choice and tension to their swing speed, feel, and spin preferences. It’s trickier for someone that is at the start or middle … your swing speed could be increasing monthly. Are you better off … say matching to current swing with V @50 … or better off sticking with V @52 and gradually improving swing speed and depth (also … depth isn’t just string tension … aim higher ). No right answer … but I would say a wrong answer is a string and tension you can’t currently keep in the court.

Edit: sitting here thinking about it … fb V @55 might be the best tennis newbie teaching aid ever invented.

Very interested in your "fb V @55 might be the best tennis newbie teaching aid ever invented" huh, why?

 

[ByeByePoly]

Very interested in your "fb V @55 might be the best tennis newbie teaching aid ever invented" huh, why?

so low power and control … keep a lot of balls in

My first fb V was @55 … had always played multis at mid-tension. I played Wilson Sensation for years @55. I played great with FB V @55 … but as we all know touch isn’t V’s thing. I strung V @52 the second time as an experiment and never looked back. V’s low power for a multi is whack … I played both V and RPM Blast @52. I am sure V @50 would also have worked … but I was playing so good at the time with 52 I never experimented further.

I guess poly was a teaching aid … also elbow anatomy teaching aid.

 

[QQQ]

When did you guys usually cut the string?

Normally I use Black code as a main and Velocity as A Cross and use it for around 10-15 hours before I cut it. Somehow I never break this string set up :/

Noticed that when the coating of Velocity worn out the string performance is really bad

 

[guilhermefdc]

Hey everybody!

I'd like to get some advice regarding which tension to string a new frame with V.

I'm thinking about going FB Velocity on a new (Auxetic) Gravity Tour. After ~2 years with the Radical MP + FB Poly, my GE is flaring up again and so I'm moving away from this combination and towards a flexible frame with a controlled multi.

Up until December I was a ~4.5ish aggressive baseliner (ranked 30 in a 500 people's league; top-5 are former ATPs), but over the last couple months I've been serving worse and worse and my FH isn't hurting as much as it used to (well, it's hurting my arm after the 1st hour), and now I'm down to 90-100.

My local shop only has Velocity 1.30 mm/16G in natural. In the past I've played with the 360+ Gravity Pro + FB Hawk Touch @ 48-52 lbs (22-23.5 kg) without pain; then went to the 2021 Radical MP and later the Aux Radical MP with Alu Rough/Ghostwire @ 48-50 lbs (22-22.5 kg), but as the pain started, I've tried lowering the tension (and switching polys) and today I'm playing with Element @ 40 lbs (18 kg), which helped, but didn't eliminate the pain.

What tensions do you guys suggest I try first? I'd say I feel the most comfortable/play my best with round polys at that 48-52 lbs range (22-23.5 kg).

 

[TimePlease]

Hey everybody!

I'd like to get some advice regarding which tension to string a new frame with V.

I'm thinking about going FB Velocity on a new (Auxetic) Gravity Tour. After ~2 years with the Radical MP + FB Poly, my GE is flaring up again and so I'm moving away from this combination and towards a flexible frame with a controlled multi.

Up until December I was a ~4.5ish aggressive baseliner (ranked 30 in a 500 people's league; top-5 are former ATPs), but over the last couple months I've been serving worse and worse and my FH isn't hurting as much as it used to (well, it's hurting my arm after the 1st hour), and now I'm down to 90-100.

My local shop only has Velocity 1.30 mm/16G in natural. In the past I've played with the 360+ Gravity Pro + FB Hawk Touch @ 48-52 lbs (22-23.5 kg) without pain; then went to the 2021 Radical MP and later the Aux Radical MP with Alu Rough/Ghostwire @ 48-50 lbs (22-22.5 kg), but as the pain started, I've tried lowering the tension (and switching polys) and today I'm playing with Element @ 40 lbs (18 kg), which helped, but didn't eliminate the pain.

What tensions do you guys suggest I try first? I'd say I feel the most comfortable/play my best with round polys at that 48-52 lbs range (22-23.5 kg).

I use Velocity 16G at around 54-56lbs (and when I use poly, I'm in your range of 48-52lbs too).
I hope it gives your arm some respite... and hopefully you'll be able to bring some poly back into a V/poly hybrid eventually, as Velocity plays much better with a soft poly cross.

 

[ByeByePoly]

Hey everybody!

I'd like to get some advice regarding which tension to string a new frame with V.

I'm thinking about going FB Velocity on a new (Auxetic) Gravity Tour. After ~2 years with the Radical MP + FB Poly, my GE is flaring up again and so I'm moving away from this combination and towards a flexible frame with a controlled multi.

Up until December I was a ~4.5ish aggressive baseliner (ranked 30 in a 500 people's league; top-5 are former ATPs), but over the last couple months I've been serving worse and worse and my FH isn't hurting as much as it used to (well, it's hurting my arm after the 1st hour), and now I'm down to 90-100.

My local shop only has Velocity 1.30 mm/16G in natural. In the past I've played with the 360+ Gravity Pro + FB Hawk Touch @ 48-52 lbs (22-23.5 kg) without pain; then went to the 2021 Radical MP and later the Aux Radical MP with Alu Rough/Ghostwire @ 48-50 lbs (22-22.5 kg), but as the pain started, I've tried lowering the tension (and switching polys) and today I'm playing with Element @ 40 lbs (18 kg), which helped, but didn't eliminate the pain.

What tensions do you guys suggest I try first? I'd say I feel the most comfortable/play my best with round polys at that 48-52 lbs range (22-23.5 kg).

I played RPM Blast 16 @52 … and Velocity natural 16 @52 … Wilson Sensation 16 @55 … pretty much all other multis and sg @55 (mid-tension).

I played 4.5 with flattish moderate topspin … easy on strings and V would break 15-20 hours. V is more durable than most multis … but if you are hitting a heavy baseline ball expect to string often.

If you read this book of V thread … V saved my arm/tennis from my first occurrence of TE in decades of tennis (bad TE … 9 months until I could serve without pain and play matches). I actually think I would have got past the TE with just V and any racquet … but I also changed racquets from Babolat Pure Drive to Volkl V1 Pro Organix … magic in the Volkl grommet tech.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

All Hail the Book of V!! Amen

(You must now virtually place your hand in cyberspace squarely on the Holy Book of V and denounce forever the Demonic Pickleball scourge.)
(Unless you are enjoying said sport - then obviously whateVer floats your boat.)

 

[ByeByePoly]

All Hail the Book of V!! Amen

(You must now virtually place your hand in cyberspace squarely on the Holy Book of V and denounce forever the Demonic Pickleball scourge.)
(Unless you are enjoying said sport - then obviously whateVer floats your boat.)

Hear me now … House of V … put off House of Wiffle until your doubles tennis no longer resembles tennis.

I told my tennis friend on a changeover 10 years ago … as we witnessed this thing next to us called very senior doubles … I don’t want to do that.

And so far … I haven’t.

 

[ByeByePoly]

Hey everybody!

I'd like to get some advice regarding which tension to string a new frame with V.

I'm thinking about going FB Velocity on a new (Auxetic) Gravity Tour. After ~2 years with the Radical MP + FB Poly, my GE is flaring up again and so I'm moving away from this combination and towards a flexible frame with a controlled multi.

Up until December I was a ~4.5ish aggressive baseliner (ranked 30 in a 500 people's league; top-5 are former ATPs), but over the last couple months I've been serving worse and worse and my FH isn't hurting as much as it used to (well, it's hurting my arm after the 1st hour), and now I'm down to 90-100.

My local shop only has Velocity 1.30 mm/16G in natural. In the past I've played with the 360+ Gravity Pro + FB Hawk Touch @ 48-52 lbs (22-23.5 kg) without pain; then went to the 2021 Radical MP and later the Aux Radical MP with Alu Rough/Ghostwire @ 48-50 lbs (22-22.5 kg), but as the pain started, I've tried lowering the tension (and switching polys) and today I'm playing with Element @ 40 lbs (18 kg), which helped, but didn't eliminate the pain.

What tensions do you guys suggest I try first? I'd say I feel the most comfortable/play my best with round polys at that 48-52 lbs range (22-23.5 kg).

Massage and Theraband flexbar

This is about tennis elbow … google for how to use flexbar for golfers elbow. I used the green/medium one. I don’t use it very often anymore … but to this day even before pickeball … I massage my forearm with fingers and thumb before playing.

Also now … massage gun on calves … gotta do what you gotta do. That thing is magic on the tight calves and just above the achilles.

 

[Rultrath]

Looking to hybrid velocity 130 with YPTP 125 in the crosses. I see most people in this thread drop the poly cross a couple pounds, but I am a bit confused. Won’t the poly drop tension significantly faster so after hitting a few dozen balls you will get a decent tension differential anyway, especially with thinner gauge? Or is stringing crosses a couple pounds lower actually noticeable over the course of the stringjob’s life?

 

[CornelMc]

Looking to hybrid velocity 130 with YPTP 125 in the crosses. I see most people in this thread drop the poly cross a couple pounds, but I am a bit confused. Won’t the poly drop tension significantly faster so after hitting a few dozen balls you will get a decent tension differential anyway, especially with thinner gauge? Or is stringing crosses a couple pounds lower actually noticeable over the course of the stringjob’s life?

Same here, with hybrid velocity mains, poly crosses. Very good observation, and I thought about the same that the poly should drop tension a lot faster than velocity. I used to string the poly 1 kg lower, but recently I am stringing both mains and crosses at the same tension.

I would also like to hear more opinions on this.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

I generally string poly/multi hybrids at the same tension and the crosses two pounds lower on poly/poly - hybrids or full bed. Allowing a bit of extra mains movement is okay with the more durable poly cross.

 

[ewiewp]

Just popped 16g V crosses which have been hybrided with Babolat Tonic natural gut 15L mains.
It lasted about 50 hours on my 18x20 string bed and I was really surprised to see virtually no notching on the gut mains !
Well it's not really "no" notching but it was the least amount of notching I've ever seen.

Anyone with similar experiences ? Is this usual with gut/multi hybrid or something to do with Velocity?
Anyway, I think I will re-string V crosses saving these unnotched gut mains.

 

[TimePlease]

Just popped 16g V crosses which have been hybrided with Babolat Tonic natural gut 15L mains.
It lasted about 50 hours on my 18x20 string bed and I was really surprised to see virtually no notching on the gut mains !
Well it's not really "no" notching but it was the least amount of notching I've ever seen.

Anyone with similar experiences ? Is this usual with gut/multi hybrid or something to do with Velocity?
Anyway, I think I will re-string V crosses saving these unnotched gut mains.

Interesting combo. How did it play?

 

[jmacdaununder2]

Legend/Velocity was often referenced favourably in the early days of "The Book Of 'V'"; my memory escapes me - somewhere between Genesis and Exodus perhaps?

 

[ewiewp]

Interesting combo. How did it play?

I liked it. I used 58 lbs on 15L gut mains and 53 lbs on V crosses.
I absolutely loved the control and spins of FB V but at times felt lack of pops on my 18x20 bed (and could not find good lower tension to compensate it).
Gut mains and V crosses was good blend of power and control I enjoyed.
I loved control and spins of gut/poly hybrid but crosses go dead pretty quick.
Gut/V hybrid has less control/spin but reasonable playability life is much longer than gut/poly hybrid.

 

[CornelMc]

Has anyone tried Velocity 1.25 mains with Head Syn gut PPS 1.25 crosses? I am looking for a more arm friendly setup than Velocity/poly, and they both have very good spin potential according to TW database. Someone was mentioning in another thread that the syn gut pps is good as a cross, as it notches/frays less than velocity. Would appreciate some feedback on this setup. Thanks!

 

[bertrevert]

Has anyone tried Velocity 1.25 mains with Head Syn gut PPS 1.25 crosses? I am looking for a more arm friendly setup than Velocity/poly, and they both have very good spin potential according to TW database. Someone was mentioning in another thread that the syn gut pps is good as a cross, as it notches/frays less than velocity. Would appreciate some feedback on this setup. Thanks!

In the post just above yours these two by @ewiewp

Head Velocity

X-One mains/Velocity black crosses 1.30M/1.30X was comfortably crisp and direct once settled in; RPM Soft mains/Velocity black crosses 1.30M/1.30X felt more muted, even more comfortable & was good from the get go; slightly less sensation/perception of producing spin with the latter set up, but...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

Head Velocity

X-One mains/Velocity black crosses 1.30M/1.30X was comfortably crisp and direct once settled in; RPM Soft mains/Velocity black crosses 1.30M/1.30X felt more muted, even more comfortable & was good from the get go; slightly less sensation/perception of producing spin with the latter set up, but...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

uses V as a cross...

Perhaps put V in the cross and then explore the characteristics you want for the mains, to be the main influencer in the setup, eg. NXT?

NXT/ Velocity

Playing with the RF97, have played mostly with Gut/poly @ 58/55 and full poly @ 52. Have tried several Multi/poly setups to try and develop a soft main/poly set that played well. They all played stiff and only stayed in the frame 3-4hrs @ 55/52. Made sense to try NXT/ Velocity since I have a...

tt.tennis-warehouse.com

If you are avoiding TE then you really want a soft mains.

PPS notches or frays less than V ... really?

V just might stand for Very good string btw

 

[tele]

Has anyone tried Velocity 1.25 mains with Head Syn gut PPS 1.25 crosses? I am looking for a more arm friendly setup than Velocity/poly, and they both have very good spin potential according to TW database. Someone was mentioning in another thread that the syn gut pps is good as a cross, as it notches/frays less than velocity. Would appreciate some feedback on this setup. Thanks!

you could try monogut zx crosses. ime, by far the slickest non poly cross. doesnt notch or fray at all, though it will eat mains

 

[Rultrath]

Hey everyone! I swapped to V (1.30) from YPTP after I started having some GE troubles. Elbow was feeling better so I went back to a V/YPTP hybrid (FB 52#), but elbow started flaring up again. I actually didn't mind full bed V at all, using 50# in my 18x20 97' (Vcore Pro 97D), so I will probably end up using FB V at 52# for a bit more control as my normal setup.

Before I commit to that though, I wanted to mess around a bit with a gut hybrid as I have never used gut and would love to have pretty consistent playability until breaking since I'm ditching poly anyway. Picked up a couple packs of Pacific Classic (1.35) and thinking of doing Gut/V with the full bed at 55# to reign in the gut power. I know tension is very personal, but I have never tried gut before and it's a bit expensive to experiment with so was wondering if anyone has input on whether 55# with this hybrid would be similar power level to 52# full bed Velocity, if I should string tighter, or even try the hybrid at 52# given the tight 18x20 with thick gauges.

I will also note that I prefer a stringbed with a low launch angle and I do not prioritize topspin production (hence not lowering cross tension). Thanks!

TLDR: Will 1.35 Pacific Classic Gut/1.30 V FB @ 55# be similar power to 1.30 V FB @ 52# or should I adjust?

 

[ByeByePoly]

Hey everyone! I swapped to V (1.30) from YPTP after I started having some GE troubles. Elbow was feeling better so I went back to a V/YPTP hybrid (FB 52#), but elbow started flaring up again. I actually didn't mind full bed V at all, using 50# in my 18x20 97' (Vcore Pro 97D), so I will probably end up using FB V at 52# for a bit more control as my normal setup.

Before I commit to that though, I wanted to mess around a bit with a gut hybrid as I have never used gut and would love to have pretty consistent playability until breaking since I'm ditching poly anyway. Picked up a couple packs of Pacific Classic (1.35) and thinking of doing Gut/V with the full bed at 55# to reign in the gut power. I know tension is very personal, but I have never tried gut before and it's a bit expensive to experiment with so was wondering if anyone has input on whether 55# with this hybrid would be similar power level to 52# full bed Velocity, if I should string tighter, or even try the hybrid at 52# given the tight 18x20 with thick gauges.

I will also note that I prefer a stringbed with a low launch angle and I do not prioritize topspin production (hence not lowering cross tension). Thanks!

TLDR: Will 1.35 Pacific Classic Gut/1.30 V FB @ 55# be similar power to 1.30 V FB @ 52# or should I adjust?

I only played gut (Babolat VS Touch 16) a couple of times … but my 2 cents.

- My fb V tension @52 … fb VS Touch would have ended up @55-57

- In my string experimentation I figured I could only know a new string preferred tension by playing it fb first before any hybrids. Since gut is expensive … maybe try this:

- string fb Pacific two piece stringing @55? (always going to be educated guess first time)
- play with fb Pacific long enough to see if you like gut (I didn’t love gut) … and note if you would need to bump tension up or down if playing fb
- replaced gut cross with V at your preferred @52.

Perhaps that is quickest and cheapest test to see if you prefer gut/V over fb V … and dial in gut tension. I didn’t fall in love with fb gut (other than volleys … best string for volleys ever for me) … so never tried gut/V although I was curious. I did try gut/poly and that pretty much matched fb poly spin for me ... but felt to launchy for my moderate ts flatter groundstrokes.

Good luck … elbow pain sucks.

 

[happyandbob]

Hey everyone! I swapped to V (1.30) from YPTP after I started having some GE troubles. Elbow was feeling better so I went back to a V/YPTP hybrid (FB 52#), but elbow started flaring up again. I actually didn't mind full bed V at all, using 50# in my 18x20 97' (Vcore Pro 97D), so I will probably end up using FB V at 52# for a bit more control as my normal setup.

Before I commit to that though, I wanted to mess around a bit with a gut hybrid as I have never used gut and would love to have pretty consistent playability until breaking since I'm ditching poly anyway. Picked up a couple packs of Pacific Classic (1.35) and thinking of doing Gut/V with the full bed at 55# to reign in the gut power. I know tension is very personal, but I have never tried gut before and it's a bit expensive to experiment with so was wondering if anyone has input on whether 55# with this hybrid would be similar power level to 52# full bed Velocity, if I should string tighter, or even try the hybrid at 52# given the tight 18x20 with thick gauges.

I will also note that I prefer a stringbed with a low launch angle and I do not prioritize topspin production (hence not lowering cross tension). Thanks!

TLDR: Will 1.35 Pacific Classic Gut/1.30 V FB @ 55# be similar power to 1.30 V FB @ 52# or should I adjust?

I have pacific classic 1.30 crossed with poly right now in an ezone at 60 lbs and 55 in the crosses. I’m liking the pacific btw

my go to tensions are
FB poly 50 x 48 lbs
FB synthetic 55 x 55 lbs
Gut poly 60 x 55 lbs

YMMV

 

[Rultrath]

Thank you both, helps a lot!

 

[Tmano]

Hi all,
I do not know anything about multi but i have seen Velocity in a lot of threads: so
would you suggest Velocity to someone that is recovering from TE? Or is there anything softer? Thanks

 

[Happi]

Hi all,
I do not know anything about multi but i have seen Velocity in a lot of threads: so
would you suggest Velocity to someone that is recovering from TE? Or is there anything softer? Thanks

Yes and yes

 

[tele]

Hi all,
I do not know anything about multi but i have seen Velocity in a lot of threads: so
would you suggest Velocity to someone that is recovering from TE? Or is there anything softer? Thanks

for te, i would recommend natural. the others felt slightly harsher to me, but ymmv. i prob sound like a broken record, but for ultimate comfort from a synthetic string, isospeed control classic or professional classic