Head Youtek Speed MP 16x19 - Holy Grail?

pedrogcr

Semi-Pro
Hi everyone,
I love 100 sq in, thin-beamed, flexible racquets and have been playing with either an O3 Tour (MP and OS), PCG 100, Diablo MP, Phantom 100, Phantom 100x for the last few years.

I also love extended length and tend to add a 0.5-inch extension to most of my racquets.

Aside from Prince, the line I've gelled the most has been the Gravity Line, and I especially love how the Gravity Pro feels, and have a TGT 344.4 (18x20) which, extended to 27.5, is one of the best racquets to hit with!

But as much as I love to hit with my TGT 344.4, I play my best tennis with 16 main racquets, so I always wondered how the TGT344.1 (Barty) would feel with its 16x19 string pattern on the Gravity Pro body.

I know this is a very rare racquet and only some lucky few will ever have a chance to play with it (never even saw any for sale).

But, the other night, while playing with TW's Racquet Finder Tool (racquetfinder.com), I came across the following comparison (picture below).


I've always seen the rumour that the Gravity was based on the Youtek Speed mold, and people dismissing it by saying the Youtek IG Speed MP had a 21mm beam, but the first Youtek (without Innegra tech) was actually 20mm straight beam. And, while the 18x20 version is supposed to have an RA of 65, the 16x19 version is 63, which is much closer to the Gravity's 62.

And, to top it off, the 16x19 is actually an slightly extended frame, coming in at 27.2 inches long!

Am I missing something? To be sure, I have one coming from the bay and should be able to test it sometime next week.

In the meantime, anyone played with the Youtek Speed MP 16x19 and remember how it felt?

Thanks in advance!
 

Boredsurfer

Semi-Pro
Keep us posted - a 16 main Gravity Pro would be fantastic (even though that 18x20 pattern creates massive spin) - I was hoping that the Auxetic Radical Pro would play something like this.
 

gold325

Hall of Fame
Hi everyone,
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Thanks in advance!

It is the IG Youtek Speed MP 300 than has the 20mm beam, 16x19, It is also 27". Strung specs below. Its a great platform frame and is still available new if you know where to look. Same tear drop shape as well.

IG Youtek Speed MP 300
Racquet Specs
  • Head Size: 100 sq. in MP​
  • Length: 27 inches​
  • Weight: Strung — 11.1 oz Unstrung — 10.6 oz​
  • Tension: 52-62 Pounds​
  • Balance: 2 Pts Head Heavy​
  • Beam Width: 20mm​
  • Composition: d3O/Graphite/Innegra​
  • Flex: 57​
  • Grips Type: Hydrosorb Tour​
  • Power Level: Low-Medium​
  • String Pattern:​
  • 16 Mains / 19 Crosses
    Mains skip: 7T,9T, 7H, 9H
    One Piece
    No Shared Hole​
  • Swing Speed: Medium-Fast​
  • Swing Weight: 313​
 
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gold325

Hall of Fame
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Looks Familiar?

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pedrogcr

Semi-Pro
It is the IG Youtek Speed MP 300 than has the 20mm beam, 16x19, It is also 27".

IG Youtek Speed MP 300
Flex: 57​

That's very interesting, but racquet finder shows a 60 RA instead of 57... If it's really 57 I just may have to get one of those too! Lol
 

pedrogcr

Semi-Pro
Looks Familiar?

Isn't the white Youtek also a tear drop shape?
What got me more excited about it is the fact it weights almost as much as the Gravity Pro, but with a lower SW even with the extra length.
 
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pedrogcr

Semi-Pro
TGT262 is what Zverev played with before the Gravity came out. Coincidence?

Just looked it up and it seems the tgt262 is 98 inches, right? Do you know the code for the 100"?

 

gino

Legend
Hi everyone,
I love 100 sq in, thin-beamed, flexible racquets and have been playing with either an O3 Tour (MP and OS), PCG 100, Diablo MP, Phantom 100, Phantom 100x for the last few years.

I also love extended length and tend to add a 0.5-inch extension to most of my racquets.

Aside from Prince, the line I've gelled the most has been the Gravity Line, and I especially love how the Gravity Pro feels, and have a TGT 344.4 (18x20) which, extended to 27.5, is one of the best racquets to hit with!

But as much as I love to hit with my TGT 344.4, I play my best tennis with 16 main racquets, so I always wondered how the TGT344.1 (Barty) would feel with its 16x19 string pattern on the Gravity Pro body.

I know this is a very rare racquet and only some lucky few will ever have a chance to play with it (never even saw any for sale).

But, the other night, while playing with TW's Racquet Finder Tool (racquetfinder.com), I came across the following comparison (picture below).


I've always seen the rumour that the Gravity was based on the Youtek Speed mold, and people dismissing it by saying the Youtek IG Speed MP had a 21mm beam, but the first Youtek (without Innegra tech) was actually 20mm straight beam. And, while the 18x20 version is supposed to have an RA of 65, the 16x19 version is 63, which is much closer to the Gravity's 62.

And, to top it off, the 16x19 is actually an slightly extended frame, coming in at 27.2 inches long!

Am I missing something? To be sure, I have one coming from the bay and should be able to test it sometime next week.

In the meantime, anyone played with the Youtek Speed MP 16x19 and remember how it felt?

Thanks in advance!

I used a heavily weighted IG Speed 300 MP in college for my best results (370g/8PT HL). I bought two of them off the boards customized by another user.

The 16x19 pattern in this mold produces massive spin, Babolat-esque. I think it's the best serve to hit a kick serve with that I've ever used (owned and tried many many frames).

After milking those two frames for years I bought three new ones 5 years ago. They are truly special. I will never sell the 5 that I have
 
I always get confused by the differences between the 300 and 315 MPs. Apologies for crossing wires with the 262, I thought that was the 100" and thin-beamed Speed. So I guess I confuse all the old versions of the Speed, lol.

The 100", 300 MP had a flex of 59 printed on the throat anyway. You can buy them new still from some retailers...
 

Wheelz

Hall of Fame
That much better than a Gravity MP? You get the 16 mains (but yeah 20 cross which can be nice). Platform weight. 22mm beam is more than 20mm but still interesting. Flexy. low twist weight. Never tried any of them, honest question !
 

ChrisJR3264

Hall of Fame
I play with the tfight 305 and honestly this Youtek MP has caught my eye with the thin beam and more foregiving racket than my current set up. Not saying I’d give up my Tecnifibre lol but sometimes I could go for a lighter set up
 

pedrogcr

Semi-Pro
I used a heavily weighted IG Speed 300 MP in college for my best results (370g/8PT HL). I bought two of them off the boards customized by another user.

The 16x19 pattern in this mold produces massive spin, Babolat-esque. I think it's the best serve to hit a kick serve with that I've ever used (owned and tried many many frames).

After milking those two frames for years I bought three new ones 5 years ago. They are truly special. I will never sell the 5 that I have

I used to play with a ~360g extended PCG100 that I loved, but my shoulder can't take that much weight anymore...
Still own a PCG100 LB I cut down and still play from time to time, but it still feels like something is missing at 335g.
 

pedrogcr

Semi-Pro
That much better than a Gravity MP? You get the 16 mains (but yeah 20 cross which can be nice). Platform weight. 22mm beam is more than 20mm but still interesting. Flexy. low twist weight. Never tried any of them, honest question !

Don't know if it'll be much better than the Gravity MP... Tomorrow I will actually play with my extended Gravity MP Lite, I just restrung.

The MP is a wonderful racquet, but the Pro just feels a little different...

 

flyhome

Rookie
This is mine, according to @dr325i I think Zverev was using this one, then he switched to the Gravity Pro, similar mold to the 263, but different layup.
Zverev is using the TGT of the Gravity Pro, but with the "string spacing/pattern of the 263", TGT344.3

This TGK can produced a great amount of spin with a good technique.

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alcaraziño

New User
I have this racket. I played with it since 2011 for two years, then I left tennis until about three years ago when I took it back. It's a great racket, but I wouldn't say is the holy grail. Compared to the rackets they make now, it's much less muted, you can feel the ball more. But there is also the feeling of it being more stiff or transmitting more vibration, so it's not the most comfortable stick. I definitely don't find it more flexible than the Extreme Tour that I am using now. I switched for that and also because I find it to be in the heavier side. I also have Youtek Speed Pro and that thing is rocket launcher.
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pedrogcr

Semi-Pro
I have this racket. I played with it since 2011 for two years, then I left tennis until about three years ago when I took it back. It's a great racket, but I wouldn't say is the holy grail.

Yeah, Holy Grail was probably an exaggeration, but I just love trying and tweaking different racquets in the endless search for the one that will be perfect for my game.

I did receive mine last week and strung it up with Revolve Twist x Isospeed Baseline, both 17g, at my regular tension (41 x 37 lbs).

I hit briefly with it during warm-ups for my match on Tuesday and felt I need to add some weight to the hoop (10 and 2, and maybe a little bit at 12) to get a some more plow through, since my usual racquets are a little longer at 27.5 inches and just hit a heavier ball.

But I LOVED the feel of the 20mm beam and think the higher launch angle may be exactly what I'm looking for if I can adjust the swing weight and get it to play closer to what I am used to.
 

Lorenn

Hall of Fame
In the meantime, anyone played with the Youtek Speed MP 16x19 and remember how it felt?

Basically players either totally love youtek or totally hate it... Racquets with it tend to perform differently then most other racquets. I simply preferred my existing racquets and didn't see any reason to change. It was fun to play with it, but too much of a feel change for me at the time. (LM Radical series) I found with Youtek you have to adjust to a different feel and it was something that didn't interested me at the time. I was slightly biased against switching at the time. I did switch to the Gravity Pro when released, as I was tired of searching for LM Radicals. It would be fun to play with a 16x19 or 18x19 Gravity Pro. If that was not enough I also picked up a 16x19 Speed MP 360+.
 

pedrogcr

Semi-Pro
This is mine, according to @dr325i I think Zverev was using this one, then he switched to the Gravity Pro, similar mold to the 263, but different layup.
Zverev is using the TGT of the Gravity Pro, but with the "string spacing/pattern of the 263", TGT344.3

This TGK can produced a great amount of spin with a good technique.

pnpuHZjBj
pmGy5Xgcj

Beautiful! But like the Gravity Pro, this is the 18x20 version and I am looking to see if I can get the "same" feel and performance of the Gravity Pro, but in a 16x19 pattern.

I also read somewhere that the 263.1 (16x19) was the racquet Barty was using before moving to the 344.1 (Gravity pro mold with 16x19 string pattern).

I would love to find a 344.1 but since I don't know any other player who use/used it, it must be really difficult to find one.
 
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pedrogcr

Semi-Pro
Basically players either totally love youtek or totally hate it... Racquets with it tend to perform differently then most other racquets. I simply preferred my existing racquets and didn't see any reason to change. It was fun to play with it, but too much of a feel change for me at the time. (LM Radical series) I found with Youtek you have to adjust to a different feel and it was something that didn't interested me at the time. I was slightly biased against switching at the time. I did switch to the Gravity Pro when released, as I was tired of searching for LM Radicals. It would be fun to play with a 16x19 or 18x19 Gravity Pro. If that was not enough I also picked up a 16x19 Speed MP 360+.

I had never played with any Youtek racquet, as I was out of the game for 23 years (with a brief stint from 2005/06 when I played with a Prince O3 Tour MP) before returning in 2019.

And I guess you can put me in the list of players who like weird feeling racquets, as I really like the O3 feel and also enjoy playing with a few racquets from Prince's Phantom line that many people would call mushy.

My main struggle is I used to play with much heavier racquets, but my shoulder just can't take it anymore.
I have a few racquets I really like, but I just find the search for the perfect stick too much fun to settle.
 

Lorenn

Hall of Fame
I had never played with any Youtek racquet, as I was out of the game for 23 years (with a brief stint from 2005/06 when I played with a Prince O3 Tour MP) before returning in 2019.

And I guess you can put me in the list of players who like weird feeling racquets, as I really like the O3 feel and also enjoy playing with a few racquets from Prince's Phantom line that many people would call mushy.

My main struggle is I used to play with much heavier racquets, but my shoulder just can't take it anymore.
I have a few racquets I really like, but I just find the search for the perfect stick too much fun to settle.

There is exploring new racquets and moving too them... I don't mind playing with various racquets, but rarely at they worth switching too...I have a few O3 racquets as I played with Prince Racquets before switching to HEAD. I simply preferred LM over Youtek, before LM series I tended to upgrade frequently as I assumed every new generation was better. Microgel broke that mindset.
 
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mattimag

Rookie
This is mine, according to @dr325i I think Zverev was using this one, then he switched to the Gravity Pro, similar mold to the 263, but different layup.
Zverev is using the TGT of the Gravity Pro, but with the "string spacing/pattern of the 263", TGT344.3

This TGK can produced a great amount of spin with a good technique.

pnpuHZjBj
pmGy5Xgcj

I have one 263.2 too and it is an amazing racket.
 

2ndServe

Hall of Fame
Head Speed Pro Youtek was a great racket it was 18x19 or 18x20 so lots of control and slightly thicker beam for more pop
 

Classic-TXP-IG MID

Hall of Fame
Hi everyone,
I love 100 sq in, thin-beamed, flexible racquets and have been playing with either an O3 Tour (MP and OS), PCG 100, Diablo MP, Phantom 100, Phantom 100x for the last few years.

I also love extended length and tend to add a 0.5-inch extension to most of my racquets.

Aside from Prince, the line I've gelled the most has been the Gravity Line, and I especially love how the Gravity Pro feels, and have a TGT 344.4 (18x20) which, extended to 27.5, is one of the best racquets to hit with!

But as much as I love to hit with my TGT 344.4, I play my best tennis with 16 main racquets, so I always wondered how the TGT344.1 (Barty) would feel with its 16x19 string pattern on the Gravity Pro body.

I know this is a very rare racquet and only some lucky few will ever have a chance to play with it (never even saw any for sale).

But, the other night, while playing with TW's Racquet Finder Tool (racquetfinder.com), I came across the following comparison (picture below).


I've always seen the rumour that the Gravity was based on the Youtek Speed mold, and people dismissing it by saying the Youtek IG Speed MP had a 21mm beam, but the first Youtek (without Innegra tech) was actually 20mm straight beam. And, while the 18x20 version is supposed to have an RA of 65, the 16x19 version is 63, which is much closer to the Gravity's 62.

And, to top it off, the 16x19 is actually an slightly extended frame, coming in at 27.2 inches long!

Am I missing something? To be sure, I have one coming from the bay and should be able to test it sometime next week.

In the meantime, anyone played with the Youtek Speed MP 16x19 and remember how it felt?

Thanks in advance!

You need to source the Youth IG Speed 300 MP (look it up on racquet finder). It is the Barty racquet... it's 20mm beam, 16x19 pattern, 57 RA. It's basically a 16x19 Gravity Pro (platform).

I have mine modified to my Gravity Pro specs (360g strung, 315mm balance - from memory, and the SW is increased quite a bit - estimate would be 335+ SW).

It plays very very well, it is super comfortable, great spin, yet can flatten out very well, and I use thicker gauge strings as the spacing is quite wide.

Hope that helps.

EDIT: Read all the other posts... can't be bothered to delete or change.
 
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First decent hit with the Head Youtek Speed MP 16*19:

+ On the backhand side, it will definitely help me improve my 6-month-old 2-handed backhand.
+ Very easy to hit finesse shots.
+ Super whippy.

- 208 grams unstrung, underspeced, but lighter is better than heavier
- 325 grams strung and such headlightness make it feel "anemic" on the forehand side

Got home a couple hours ago, added 4 1gram lead strips at 3 and 9 o' clock and will report back next week.
 
I’ve got one of the YT Graphene Speed Pros. Compared to my Auxetic 1.0 and 2.0 frames it’s stiff, jarring and terrible feel. All of the are strung with VS 17 gut and 1.15 Alu power. I love the PJ and 22mm beam of the old speed but just feels terrible compared to the Auxetic models.
 

K1Y

Professional
People talking about different speeds here. The youtek ig speed mp 300 (blackish racket with white headguard) which @Classic-TXP-IG MID talked about is Barty her previous racket and the origin for her pro stock. If you scroll back far on her instagram you can find she used to play it back in the day. The all white youtek speed is different and she never played with that one as far as I know.
 
Not the best part of today's session. I played some very solid groundstrokes, then several drills and point-play. This part is towards the end of this windy session. I have added 4 grams at 9 and 3 that I feel made it more stable at the forehand side. Backhand side is still super whippy! I feel the sweetspot is relatively small, distinctive and extends from the mid of the hoop towards the tip. Anything outside the 6 mains makes a noticable different sound. All in all, so far, on the backhand side, this is really gonna help me improve this part, on th forehand I still need to gell with it. Trying to imitate Sinner's loopy forehand finish! It for sure hits the flat ball great!

 
Now, at 330 grams with 4 strips of 1 gram of lead each at 9 and 3 to help me a bit on my forehand. This is how I feel the sweetspot is on this racket:

+ the 8 mains in the throat that I've previously read on other threads
+ the sweetspot is elongated towards the 12 o' clock, leads to:
+ almost the same sound/consistency right in the middle and towards the tip of the green circle, very noticable on the 2-handed backhand
+ on the forehand, anything towards the bottom of the green cyrcle or lower lands very short

the other mains are very afar from the 8th left and right main and as a result you get nothing outside the 8th mains

youtek-speed.jpg
youtek-speed-sweetspot.jpg
 

Grafil Injection

Hall of Fame
Now, at 330 grams with 4 strips of 1 gram of lead each at 9 and 3 to help me a bit on my forehand. This is how I feel the sweetspot is on this racket:

+ the 8 mains in the throat that I've previously read on other threads
+ the sweetspot is elongated towards the 12 o' clock, leads to:
+ almost the same sound/consistency right in the middle and towards the tip of the green circle, very noticable on the 2-handed backhand
+ on the forehand, anything towards the bottom of the green cyrcle or lower lands very short

the other mains are very afar from the 8th left and right main and as a result you get nothing outside the 8th mains

youtek-speed.jpg
youtek-speed-sweetspot.jpg

This is where you should hit whatever the racket. The central 100 cells (9 X 11). The outer 70-80 percent of the racket is just there to suspend that area like a trampoline.
 
Does the Karue 2-handed-backhand block return better than anything I've experienced so far. Backhand slicing also great.

Still, haven't completely gelled on the forehand side. I find it a bit difficult to apply top-spin and side-spin on my second serves, I do both much easier with the Diadem Elevate and Prince Tour 95 (2015) - much more open pattern.

I feel much more confident hitting flat. Could be the RS Lyon 1.25 fitting a flat-player's game. I'll have to string it up with something shaped and get back into seeing what's the result on the top-spin forehand. Maybe lower the tension a bit, from 23 to 21kg.
 
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