Heel Cups?

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  1. JackB1

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    Anyone wear those gel heel cups in their tennis shoes as a regular practice?
    Do you wear them on top of your insole?

    I recently started having some minor heel pain and I bought some gel heel cups to put inside my tennis shoes. They seem to help cushion the heel, but it feels very weird...like you are standing on the balls of your feet all the time. Is that normal? Will I get used to it after a while? Am I supposed to put them on top of my regular insoles?

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  2. sovertennis

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    I put these in both my tennis and running shoes as soon as the shoes come out of the box. Generally, I use two pairs of heel inserts before the shoes are worn out. I've found they increase the cushioning slightly, make the shoes fit better, and help to distribute the shock from striking the ground more evenly. I've been doing this for many years.
     
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    You place them ON TOP of the regular insole?
     
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  4. Chotobaka

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    Well, Justine Henin's father used to tape tennis balls to the bottom of her shoes so she would learn to stay on the balls of her feet. So maybe it is not such a bad thing for you. Not much you can do about thick heel cups even with thin insoles. I wonder if a company like Superfeet might make something with a lower ride.
     
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  5. tennissavvy

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    top of the insole because it will cover the side of the heel (give more comfort this way compare to putting heel below insole)

    you can try both ways and see which one works better.
     
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  6. JackB1

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    that makes sense. I guess I'll try them for a while and see if I can get used to the new angle of my feet. It does put you on the balls of your feet almost automatically. You could almost use them as a "training device" :)
     
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  7. LeeD

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    Since I use orthodic insoles in all my tennis shoes, SuperfeetGreens, PowerMax, Sole Ultras, and Montrails, my heels are always raised inside the shoe.
    Makes me a true 5'11" tall, and eases the strain on my Achilles for tennis.
    It's possibly only an increase of 1/4", but everyone seems to feel a racket with 1/4" extended does serve harder.
     
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  8. EastAngels2014

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    I use them in both my tennis and running shoes. I love them.
     
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    What kind of insole do you put them on top of in your tennis shoe? The stock one or something else? Did it take a while to get used to them at first?
     
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  10. sainttom

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    Custom built orthotics are the way to go if you have any feet issues.

    I'm sure if you went to a Podiatrist, they would build you something that had heel cups as well as catered to the rest of your foot.
     
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    I dont know yet if I have an ongoing issue. This is the first time I have ever had heel pain. I don't want to spend a couple hundred on custom orthotics if they aren't necessary yet.
     
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  12. sovertennis

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    No--they might slide forward unless you tuck them under the regular insole.
     
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  13. sovertennis

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    I got these some years ago, at considerable expense and ultimately found that just the $6-7 heel pads were a better solution.
     
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  14. JackB1

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    They dont really move once in place, plus they have a ridge around the edge that is supposed to go around your heel.

    If they move, I can always use a little double stick tape. But the way they are designed I believe they are supposed to sit on top, next to your sock.
     
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    I use them in my dress shoes. In my tennis shoes, I use the full Dr. Scholl's insoles. $10 from Wal-Mart. I've been dealing with heel pain on and off for a few years. Pretty much whenever I find a shoe that does not give me pain, I buy as many as I can before they scrap it for a newer and usually worse model shoe.
     
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  16. JackB1

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    you use these?
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    I always use a full insole replacement, but most of them don't raise your heel up any, which takes some pressure of that area.
     
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    Those are the ones. The heel cups don't work as well for me on court.
     
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    I tried the heel cups once. I began to experience mild lower back pain, which I attributed to the change in angle / difference in height. I switched to the full length insoles (Dr. Scholl's foam type) and the pain went away. I use the insoles in all my new tennis shoes, on top of the factory insole, to add a small degree of extra cushioning.

    Whatever you choose, I recommend visiting a physician. Your heel pain could be the beginning of plantar faciitis (PF). I had a severe case of PF many years ago, but was able to make a full recovery by performing exercises designed to ease the pain and aid healing.
     
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  19. MRfStop

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    I have been dealing with heel pain in both of my feet for the past year and a half. I ordered some Mueller Heel cup not sure how well they will do.

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  20. jaggy

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    I have been dealing with this and was planning to buy the Superfeet greens, anyone any comments on them?
     
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    They were too hard for me personally.
     
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    I have two sets of Greens. Solid footbed, plenty of cush.
    I also have SoleUltra's, PowerStepMax.s, Montrail's, and an array of Dr.Scholl's.
    All work.
    None are clearly superior.
    I use them to raise my height to 5'11", so I can hit first serves IN.
     
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  23. JackB1

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    All the Superfeet insoles are much firmer than most. They give your foot support in a different way, without lots of cushioning. I would recommend something that has extra cushioning for the heel.
     
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    I wear orthotic inserts that are somewhat thicker than every stock insole I've found. I've yet to find a tennis shoe with an insole adequately thick such that replacing it with the orthotics doesn't raise my heel too much and cause my heel to move too much.
     
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    K-Swiss BigShot's have really high heel support. It's too high with my Montrail's installed, and I have to loosen the shoe laces after a set of tennis, to alleviate the pressure the shoe's heel cup presses in on the sides of my heel.
     
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  26. scotus

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    If I get a flareup of plantar fasciitis, I use a pair of Sorbothane heel cups. Very comfy.
     
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    I also recommend the Thorlo thick socks for extra padding. They make your feet sweat a lot, so buyer beware.
     
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  28. JackB1

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    Do u have a link to this exact product?
     
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    Heel cups didn't work well for me, instead what I use for plantar fasciitis are the most expensive Dr. Scholls I could find, called "active" (with some plastic reinforcement in the arch I think for lateral support). They help.
     
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  31. Fintft

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    I've tried again yesterday both a full size insole (Dr. Scholls, called "active") plus heel cup (again Dr. Scholls) I think in my Asiscs Gel Resolution 5 clay, but it was too much.

    Eventually I removed the heel cups and used only the regular size insoles Dr. Scholls active for plantar fasciitis and they help (Also the GR5 don't have much support in the front/toe area).
    By contrast a couple of days ago, when I didn't have them and used only stock...Nike insoles my heel was hurting more after two hours on har thrugh alternatining with some hard courts time...
     
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    I tried those too. I found that I actually like the slightly cheaper Gel Sports better.
     
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  34. Fintft

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    For me it seems the opposite; I got some old gel insoles that are not as good as the Dr.Scholl's active. I'm also heavy etc.
     
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  35. mctennis

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    It is interesting that some people do not want to spend the money for custom orthotics yet will play around with inserts and other things for their shoes and probably end up spending more money and waste a lot more time than just getting orthotics. They can put some sort of heel cup in them if that is what is necessary.
    I'm not knocking anyone in particular here in this thread or any other thread on this site. Just an observation about people's perception of time, money, results vs what would probably work a whole lot better in the long run. They will spend a ton of money on outfits, shoes, and racquets vs making their feet feel better. If my feet hurt my whole body hurts. I do not like shelling out a few hundred dollars out for orthotics but when I play and my feet do not hurt during or after then it was money well spent.

    Going back to gel heel cups. I started using them on top of my orthotics just before my heel surgery and also after the surgery. It mostly is for protection for the surgery scar as it is healing up and the scar tissue since that area can be tender at times.
     
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