height over the net?

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I decided to keep my left hand knuckles and fingers ... my fh is what it is. I have a better chance to influence the 3+ year stroke than the 40 year one. :cry:
lol, it should be as easy as "having a catch" from your right hand to your left hand...
if you can't bash your fingers having a catch... how the heck to hit the ball? :p
 
On this thread because I realized in a singles loss last night I had gotten into the habit of hitting hard and flat low over the net ..against a shorter opponent who I've dealt with relatively easily in recent years. I think playing a lot of doubles got me in this habit, especially with returns where you can't just loop it. No reason to ever hit the net on a routine return in singles against an average serve, and I did it numerous times last night. Need to put a cheat sheet in the bag or something : singles: net clearance first.
 
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Its pretty fascinating to me how those older guys in their 50s or 60s that played decent level tennis can hit flat forehands and be so consistent, the ball doesn't have alot of spin but its fast and has penetration and more interestingly they consistently hit it over the net with low margin.. i guess thats what happens when you have 30 or 40 years experience behind you and have hit millions of shots :D

 
On this thread because I realized in a singles loss last night I had gotten into the habit of hitting hard and flat low over the net ..against a shorter opponent who I've dealt with relatively easily in recent years. I think playing a lot of doubles got me in this habit, especially with returns where you can't just loop it. No reason to ever hit the net on a routine return in singles against an average serve, and I did it numerous times last night. Need to put a cheat sheet in the bag or something : singles: net clearance first.
It should be legal to hang notes on our side of the net.
 
That is me with that one partner...but dang it gets a bit frustrating after a few years of this.
Yes, you need a variety, but I think it's actually a good practice/drill having to hit that accurate. I find this hitting with my rookie when we do a cc FH drill. I need to be the one that "saves" the wild ones and keeps the hit going by both getting it back, and getting it back to his tighter strike zone. Not as fun as a cc drill with someone stronger where you both can just go for it more, but focused target constraints is always useful.
 
You got it man. Good video and like the slow motion.

And Domi is my all time favorite WTA player. I posted years back about using her as a template for forehand technique for rec players and it was funny how many guy get sexist about it, but it is such an simple and effective stroke. It is unfortuate guys can't get out of their own prideful way to improve. But her footwork and attitude are epic. Thanks for posting!
Yeah ... no doubt TTW would strip you of your manhood card, and put you in the Pat The Dog Doghouse .... with no hope of exceeding 2.5.

 

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i swing fast, for me, but i don’t hit big.
jolly hits big.
according to sony, my avg groundies are in the 50s mph.
I'm in the same mph range - though my BH is a bit faster than FH (52-60 vs vs 48-55) and that tells me I still have upside potential on my FH.
What do you mean jolly hits big? you mean flat and deep and not spinny?
 
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I'm in the same mph range - though my BH is a bit faster and that tells me I still have upside potential on my FH.
What do you mean jolly hits big? you mean flat and deep and not spinny?
if my avg fh is 50's, his is like 60-70s
it does tend to have a flatter trajectory (but i think because he hits so much pace). it has topspin obviously.
 
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Kinovea for at least PC is also brilliant, but needs some more commitment moving them files onto you computer and fiddling with the software. And that too is totally free.


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more like my poor guess.
i just know it's much faster and heavier than mine...
i'm forced to stand 4-5ft off the baseline... when i prefer to be 1-2ft off the baseline.
In general, the flatter you hit, the faster the ball goes. It is the combination that brings in the consistency.


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In general, the flatter you hit, the faster the ball goes. It is the combination that brings in the consistency.


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and hitting hard, even with decent spin, will follow a flat trajectory. (flat is an overloaded term)
 
and hitting hard, even with decent spin, will follow a flat trajectory. (flat is an overloaded term)
My lady friend hits continental grip forehand with very little net clearance and spin for that matter, but she nails it, when given the opportunity. Cross court at the service line with angle high bounce skidding thru the court. Not something, you like to face in a decisive point.

Low trajectory and flat shot are different things. Take that Rafa would hit the ball more forward in a forward movement with about 1500 revs less. It would defenately fire the ball up, instead of the fierce upward brushing, he is so famous of.


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What disappointed me was Nadal reverting to his loopy shots during the final, as opposed to the flatter one he used to destroy younger players such as Tsitsipatis.

True, Djoker made things uncomfortable for Nadal, by pushing him back, yet still....

I hit low and mostly flat myself.
 
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My lady friend hits continental grip forehand with very little net clearance and spin for that matter, but she nails it, when given the opportunity. Cross court at the service line with angle high bounce skidding thru the court. Not something, you like to face in a decisive point.

Low trajectory and flat shot are different things. Take that Rafa would hit the ball more forward in a forward movement with about 1500 revs less. It would defenately fire the ball up, instead of the fierce upward brushing, he is so famous of.


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i agree, trajectory and spin rate are different things... however "flat" is often used to describe both interchangeably... which leads to confusion. (i typically clarify what i mean)
 
and hitting hard, even with decent spin, will follow a flat trajectory. (flat is an overloaded term)
I've hit a western fh flat with all my might and its very fast, but this was grooved on the ball machine. Traveled maybe a foot max over the net. I think the vertical component that kicks in 3-4 ft from the baseline can make it a tough shot especially if I could mix it with a flat eastern less spinny ball on alternating shots. Flat with spin, flat without spin, speed dependent? What is term for no spin ball?knucklball?the western high spin ball appears flat due to the high speed horizontal component, is it?
 
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