Help find Volkl Cyclone Tour 16 replacement

[ChanTen]

Hi guys, I have searched the forum, but still haven't find quite a range or answers, am finding it hard to find Volkl Cyclone Tour 16 in my country, am considering to find other recommendation that's similar feeling to it.

I've been using and loving VCT 16 due to recommendation of @g4driver (Thanks!) on my Head Speed MP (2022).

Have tried Hyper G Soft which also feels not as comfort as VCT 16 on my elbow.
Searched and maybe will try Tourna Big Hitter 17 for starter.

Hope to hear from you guys soon!

 

[ngoster]

The TW Similar String Tool may be able to help...

Similar Strings Tool

https://imgur.com/JLDBEhM

 

[rafafan20]

Toroline Caviar

 

[legcramp]

I use Speed MP and have a couple reels of VCT. Try MSV Focus Hex Plus 38.

 

[ChanTen]

The TW Similar String Tool may be able to help...

Similar Strings Tool

https://imgur.com/JLDBEhM

Thank you this helps a lot, though most of the strings it suggested are not available in my country haha.

 

[ChanterRacquet]

Gosen Sidewinder

 

[ngoster]

Thank you this helps a lot, though most of the strings it suggested are not available in my country haha.

Would it be expensive or are there other limiting factor to order outside your country?

 

[ChanTen]

Would it be expensive or are there other limiting factor to order outside your country?

Might need to wait for a while, as the shipping fee is quite expensive. Meanwhile I only have a couple packs left.

 

[K1Y]

Head lynx 1.20 in yellow, most comfortable poly to me.

 

[happyandbob]

Here are all the strings in the TWU database that are within 5% of Cyclone Tour 16 for Stiffness, Tension Loss, and Energy Return

String	Material	Gauge	Stiffness	Tension Loss Pct	Energy Return Pct	StS Cof	StB Cof
Diadem Solstice Blace 17 (1.20)	Polyester	1.2	161.7	52.7	83.9	NA	NA
Double AR Twice Dragon(1.30)	Polyester	1.3	170.9	51.2	83.2	0.071	0.51
Gosen Polylon PolyBreak 18 (1.20)	Polyester	1.2	165.2	53.3	82.8	0.074	0.354
Gosen Polymaster II 16	Polyester	1	172	53	84.5	0.074	0.374
Head Sonic Pro 17	Polyester	1.251	164.6	54.9	83.9	0.087	0.342
IsoSpeed Pulse 17	Polyester	1.2	159.4	55.6	83	NA	NA
Poly Star Classic 16L (1.25)	Polyester	1.25	174.9	54.5	81.7	0.083	0.368
Solinco Tour Bite 18 (1.15)	Polyester	1.15	161.7	50.6	84.8	0.097	0.563
SuperString Pure Control V8 17	Polyester	1.2	162.9	50.3	84.6	NA	NA
Volkl Cyclone Tour 16 (1.30)	Polyester	1.3	167.4	52.1	83.2	0.068	0.592
Volkl Cyclone Tour 17 (1.25)	Polyester	1.25	170.9	52.6	82.6	0.078	0.472
Volkl Cyclone Tour 18 (1.20)	Polyester	1.2	159.4	51.3	84.6	0.073	0.572
Volkl V-Star 16 (1.30)	Polyester	1.3	172.6	54.5	82.8	0.073	0.501
Weiss Cannon Silverstring 120	Polyester	1.2	167.4	50.6	82.6	0.107	0.397
Weiss Cannon Ultra Cable 17 (1.23)	Polyester	1.23	174.9	47.7	82.8	0.065	0.774

 

[Chairman3]

Head Lynx, I've only used 17g but they make a 16g.
Very good control and feel, good spin for a round poly.

 

[kevonian]

I would try Pros Pro Blackout or Hexaspin twist, since it may be easier to find in your country

 

[ChanTen]

Head Lynx, I've only used 17g but they make a 16g.
Very good control and feel, good spin for a round poly.

This quite a stiff string for me haha

 

[ChanTen]

I would try Pros Pro Blackout or Hexaspin twist, since it may be easier to find in your country

Can't find it haha, my country has more of the general strings brand and sub-catg, such as Head Lynx, Babolat RPM Blast, Solinco Hyper G, etc.

 

[Chairman3]

This quite a stiff string for me haha

I'm talking regular Head Lynx
NOT lynx tour
Lynx Tour is very stiff, regular Lynx is not

 

[loosegroove]

Can't find it haha, my country has more of the general strings brand and sub-catg, such as Head Lynx, Babolat RPM Blast, Solinco Hyper G, etc.

What country are you in?

 

[Irvin]

Solinco Tour Bite Soft

 

[lucky44]

What country are you in?

Indonesia

 

[kevonian]

Indonesia

You might want to try the chinese branded strings TAAN which might be easy to find

 

[legcramp]

I use Speed MP and have a couple reels of VCT. Try MSV Focus Hex Plus 38.

Just wanted to update this comment.. I strung up Focus Hex +38 and hit with it today and have another stick with VCT to compare side by side (even though I've used two reels of VCT already so I am very familiar with it). The softness, feel, spin, everything pretty much feels similar to VCT, I honestly wouldn't be able to tell a difference if I were to do a blindtest. Doesn't seem like MSV strings get a lot of talk on here but I am going to question buying another reel of VCT when the Focus Hex Plus 38 can be had for $68/reel vs $110/reel for VCT. I'll also report back with the tension maintenance numbers in a couple weeks or so... I am using 1.25mm for the MSV plus 38 vs. 1.30mm for VCT in grey.

 

[ChanTen]

Just wanted to update this comment.. I strung up Focus Hex +38 and hit with it today and have another stick with VCT to compare side by side (even though I've used two reels of VCT already so I am very familiar with it). The softness, feel, spin, everything pretty much feels similar to VCT, I honestly wouldn't be able to tell a difference if I were to do a blindtest. Doesn't seem like MSV strings get a lot of talk on here but I am going to question buying another reel of VCT when the Focus Hex Plus 38 can be had for $68/reel vs $110/reel for VCT. I'll also report back with the tension maintenance numbers in a couple weeks or so... I am using 1.25mm for the MSV plus 38 vs. 1.30mm for VCT in grey.

Thanks, looking forward to your update.

 

[elginspur]

Just wanted to update this comment.. I strung up Focus Hex +38 and hit with it today and have another stick with VCT to compare side by side (even though I've used two reels of VCT already so I am very familiar with it). The softness, feel, spin, everything pretty much feels similar to VCT, I honestly wouldn't be able to tell a difference if I were to do a blindtest. Doesn't seem like MSV strings get a lot of talk on here but I am going to question buying another reel of VCT when the Focus Hex Plus 38 can be had for $68/reel vs $110/reel for VCT. I'll also report back with the tension maintenance numbers in a couple weeks or so... I am using 1.25mm for the MSV plus 38 vs. 1.30mm for VCT in grey.

Hi @legcramp . Any update on tension maintenance between VCT and MSVFH38? And what tension did you use for both strings in your Speed MP? Thanks.

 

[tobi9008]

I'm trying the same thing right now (replacing vct 16g) and my path went more to thinner strings as I want a bite more feel and bite.
I liked msv fh+38 and cyclone, both tested in black and 1.20mm, with cyclone holding tension better and fh+38 playing a bit softer.
Anyone else agreeing that hyper-g regular and tour bite soft 1.15mm would be good next candidates to try? How do they compare?
For me, this is about finding a good balance with comfort, spin and feel, plus a bit better tension maintenance than vct. Those usually stiffer solinco strings in 1.15. should be reasonably comfortable and I'm OK if they snap before going dead and hurting my arm. Current racket: blade 100 v8, defense grinder/counter puncher style

 

[maksp]

I'm trying the same thing right now (replacing vct 16g) and my path went more to thinner strings as I want a bite more feel and bite.
I liked msv fh+38 and cyclone, both tested in black and 1.20mm, with cyclone holding tension better and fh+38 playing a bit softer.
Anyone else agreeing that hyper-g regular and tour bite soft 1.15mm would be good next candidates to try? How do they compare?
For me, this is about finding a good balance with comfort, spin and feel, plus a bit better tension maintenance than vct. Those usually stiffer solinco strings in 1.15. should be reasonably comfortable and I'm OK if they snap before going dead and hurting my arm. Current racket: blade 100 v8, defense grinder/counter puncher style

Tour bite soft 1.20mm is soft, hyper g is hard

 

[LOBALOT]

Tour bite soft 1.20mm is soft, hyper g is hard

I agree and wouldn't think either is similar for sure not Hyper G. I am interested on @legcramp finding on FH 38 as that was a string I have looked at in the past and wondered if it would be a decent string.

 

[tobi9008]

I agree and wouldn't think either is similar for sure not Hyper G. I am interested on @legcramp finding on FH 38 as that was a string I have looked at in the past and wondered if it would be a decent string.

Yeah it would be great to hear back on the comparison, absolutely. According to racket pedia which only lists 18g and 19g FH38 and only 16g of VCT, the tension maintenance is already slightly better for 18g FH38 than 16g VCT. So I guess 18g FH38, producing decent spin at good comfort, is an option to go thinner. I still feel tour bite soft or hyper g 1.15. could be better in performance, so I will try and hopefully my arm approves as well.

 

[Cynelit]

Hi guys, I have searched the forum, but still haven't find quite a range or answers, am finding it hard to find Volkl Cyclone Tour 16 in my country, am considering to find other recommendation that's similar feeling to it.

I've been using and loving VCT 16 due to recommendation of @g4driver (Thanks!) on my Head Speed MP (2022).

Have tried Hyper G Soft which also feels not as comfort as VCT 16 on my elbow.
Searched and maybe will try Tourna Big Hitter 17 for starter.

Hope to hear from you guys soon!

So have any of you guys tested more strings similar to VCT? VCT 1.20 is quite nice for me in my Blade 100 v8.
I also found Volkl V-star very comfortable (the comfiest poly) but it is a round string, probably best as a cross to something like VCT. I have tested some Signum pro strings: Firestorm, Hyperion (both similar, with good feel but not as comfy as V-star or even VCT) and X-perience which was a bit too stiff after few hours of hitting. I did not like Yonex PolyTour pro at all.

 

[Chris B.]

So have any of you guys tested more strings similar to VCT? VCT 1.20 is quite nice for me in my Blade 100 v8.
I also found Volkl V-star very comfortable (the comfiest poly) but it is a round string, probably best as a cross to something like VCT. I have tested some Signum pro strings: Firestorm, Hyperion (both similar, with good feel but not as comfy as V-star or even VCT) and X-perience which was a bit too stiff after few hours of hitting. I did not like Yonex PolyTour pro at all.

I unintentionally found a similar string to VCT: Tecnifibre Triax.

Triax is my #1 string for general use since years due to sensitive elbow. I have it strung at ~21 kg (46 lbs) on Pro Kennex Ki10 giving a quite powerful setup.

For matches where balls are flying too much I have a 2nd racket with stiffer string. My go-to string for that is MSV Focus-Hex Ultra 1.20. This allows me to keep on swinging fully rather than holding back.
Currently trying to find a softer alternative for this use case.

Strung racket #2 with VCT 1.30 anthracite on Sunday, same tension as Triax 1.33. Played Monday evening.

Both strings feel veeeery similar. The VCT slightly softer - probably because it already lost more tension than the Triax. Cannot tell much about spin as my trainer played mostly on the net. So I could not see the full ball trajectory.

Conclusion: For me considering the worse tension maintenance of VCT it will probably not fulfill its purpose being a more controlled addition to my #1 Triax.
For most of you probably the high price tag will disqualify Triax as alternative for Cyclone Tour.

 

[onehandbh]

Indonesia

@lucky44 @ChanTen
If you are indonesia, I think Volkl Cyclone Tour is available on Tokopedia.

I actually prefer the regular Cyclone in 1.30mm.

 

[Cynelit]

I unintentionally found a similar string to VCT: Tecnifibre Triax.

Triax is my #1 string for general use since years due to sensitive elbow. I have it strung at ~21 kg (46 lbs) on Pro Kennex Ki10 giving a quite powerful setup.

For matches where balls are flying too much I have a 2nd racket with stiffer string. My go-to string for that is MSV Focus-Hex Ultra 1.20. This allows me to keep on swinging fully rather than holding back.
Currently trying to find a softer alternative for this use case.

Strung racket #2 with VCT 1.30 anthracite on Sunday, same tension as Triax 1.33. Played Monday evening.

Both strings feel veeeery similar. The VCT slightly softer - probably because it already lost more tension than the Triax. Cannot tell much about spin as my trainer played mostly on the net. So I could not see the full ball trajectory.

Conclusion: For me considering the worse tension maintenance of VCT it will probably not fulfill its purpose being a more controlled addition to my #1 Triax.
For most of you probably the high price tag will disqualify Triax as alternative for Cyclone Tour.

Thank you for sharing your experience. I haven't tried Triax yet but I have Pro Kennex Ki 10 290g as my second (go-to) comfort racket, because my tennis is better with Blade 100 v8.

 

[elginspur]

Triax is undoubtedly a good string

I unintentionally found a similar string to VCT: Tecnifibre Triax.

Triax is my #1 string for general use since years due to sensitive elbow. I have it strung at ~21 kg (46 lbs) on Pro Kennex Ki10 giving a quite powerful setup.

For matches where balls are flying too much I have a 2nd racket with stiffer string. My go-to string for that is MSV Focus-Hex Ultra 1.20. This allows me to keep on swinging fully rather than holding back.
Currently trying to find a softer alternative for this use case.

Strung racket #2 with VCT 1.30 anthracite on Sunday, same tension as Triax 1.33. Played Monday evening.

Both strings feel veeeery similar. The VCT slightly softer - probably because it already lost more tension than the Triax. Cannot tell much about spin as my trainer played mostly on the net. So I could not see the full ball trajectory.

Conclusion: For me considering the worse tension maintenance of VCT it will probably not fulfill its purpose being a more controlled addition to my #1 Triax.
For most of you probably the high price tag will disqualify Triax as alternative for Cyclone Tour.

I have used both Triax and VCT 16g before in my 2022 Head Speed MP. Triax strung full bed at 53 lbs / VCT full bed at 52lbs (separate occasions) . Whilst Triax is undoubtedly a good string but it is nonetheless a multifilament - it began fraying by the second hitting session and broke after 8-10 hrs of hitting. I also find the Triax lacks spin and balls tend to go over the lines at times, even when I did all the right motion to impart spin on the ball.

VCT is akin to my home-string which I always return to after experimenting with different string setup. VCT can reliably offer me control, precision and tons of spin. Way more than Triax. Balls tend to go where I direct them to go and they usually land deep due to the massive spin. The tension drop is real though - 10lbs within 3 weeks after stringing / about 10-12 hours of play - but it does not really affect the string’s playability. After the VCT goes dead, ball tends to be quite launchy (although you can still keep balls in play with a more exaggerated spin motion) but I do not experience any pain in the arm as a common result from a dead poly (unlike YPTP).

If given a choice, I will pick VCT over Triax but this is a personal choice since VCT suits my play style much better than Triax.

 

[elginspur]

Thank you for sharing your experience. I haven't tried Triax yet but I have Pro Kennex Ki 10 290g as my second (go-to) comfort racket, because my tennis is better with Blade 100 v8.

What strings/tension do you use on your Wilson Blade v8 100? I use a hybrid of Lynx Tour (m) 50lbs / Velocity (c) 52lbs and the feel is just sublime. Plush, good spin and plenty of control too.

 

[Cynelit]

What strings/tension do you use on your Wilson Blade v8 100? I use a hybrid of Lynx Tour (m) 50lbs / Velocity (c) 52lbs and the feel is just sublime. Plush, good spin and plenty of control too.

Thank you for the info. I used Signum Pro Hyperion which had nice feel but a little too stiff and not so spin friendly. My go to string so far has been Volkl V-star to which i always return to, very soft, comfortable, but now experiencing with VCT. After first hitting i quite like it, although i wonder how would it play in hybrid with v-star (probably similar to velocity). I don't like dead plasticky feeling strings like regular YPTP when goes dead, cyclone, vtorque tour etc.
My tension is 23/22kg or 50lbs

 

[elginspur]

I reckon a hybrid of VCT + V-Star would be comfortable, looking at the stiffness rating on TW (VCT 16g = 167 / VS 16g = 173). I have tried YPTP on the Speed MP and the Blade v8 100. YPTP feels lively and crispy when freshly strung - but when it dies, I do agree with you on the string having a weird plasticky feel. I also detest the slow creeping pain that comes from a dead YPTP, which can eventually result in a much worse pain if you keep playing with it (learned through my expensive mistake of leaving and playing with a dead YPTP for too long in my Speed MP).

 

[jmacdaununder2]

I went from CT/multi hybrids to Yonex PT Air/multi hybrids on a couple of racquets with 'comfort' set ups and to full bed Yonex PT Rev or Yonex PTP in a couple of other 'match' racquets. The Rev in particular holds tension pretty well & doesn't play as stiff relative to Cyclone Tour as the numbers might suggest. I'm planning on hybridising it with Air or maybe PTP shortly too, but for me it's great on it's own - I dropped a pound from my PTP tension & I string my VCore 98+s at 45/43 lbs with poly/poly.

 

[maksp]

I went from CT/multi hybrids to Yonex PT Air/multi hybrids on a couple of racquets with 'comfort' set ups and to full bed Yonex PT Rev or Yonex PTP in a couple of other 'match' racquets. The Rev in particular holds tension pretty well & doesn't play as stiff relative to Cyclone Tour as the numbers might suggest. I'm planning on hybridising it with Air or maybe PTP shortly too, but for me it's great on it's own - I dropped a pound from my PTP tension & I string my VCore 98+s at 45/43 lbs with poly/poly.

Which color rev was your favorite? White was average mint I didn't try

 

[jmacdaununder2]

Mint & purple - I didn't try white or orange.

 

[elginspur]

Mint & purple - I didn't try white or orange.

How do the colours play? Any difference between the two?

 

[Chris B.]

Triax is undoubtedly a good string

I have used both Triax and VCT 16g before in my 2022 Head Speed MP. Triax strung full bed at 53 lbs / VCT full bed at 52lbs (separate occasions) . Whilst Triax is undoubtedly a good string but it is nonetheless a multifilament - it began fraying by the second hitting session and broke after 8-10 hrs of hitting. I also find the Triax lacks spin and balls tend to go over the lines at times, even when I did all the right motion to impart spin on the ball.

VCT is akin to my home-string which I always return to after experimenting with different string setup. VCT can reliably offer me control, precision and tons of spin. Way more than Triax. Balls tend to go where I direct them to go and they usually land deep due to the massive spin. The tension drop is real though - 10lbs within 3 weeks after stringing / about 10-12 hours of play - but it does not really affect the string’s playability. After the VCT goes dead, ball tends to be quite launchy (although you can still keep balls in play with a more exaggerated spin motion) but I do not experience any pain in the arm as a common result from a dead poly (unlike YPTP).

If given a choice, I will pick VCT over Triax but this is a personal choice since VCT suits my play style much better than Triax.

What is your home-string?

 

[elginspur]

What is your home-string?

VCT 16g

 

[LOBALOT]

Nothing plays like it that I am aware of. I use Diadem Solstice Black but in my opinion it is stiffer and also loses tension way quicker.... Like in 1 hit. It is really not the same but as close as I could find. If OP can't find VCT I doubt you are going to find it as well.

 

[jmacdaununder2]

How do the colours play? Any difference between the two?

I felt that the mint was slightly more resilient, so I’ve been sticking with that one, although the price got jacked up when the Percepts took off.

 

[Injured Again]

I’d suggest trying Big Hitter Black 7. It’s almost as soft as VCT but has impact feel like regular Cyclone.

 

[elginspur]

I’d suggest trying Big Hitter Black 7. It’s almost as soft as VCT but has impact feel like regular Cyclone.

How is the tension maintenance of the BHB7, in comparison to the VCT 16g?

 

[Injured Again]

How is the tension maintenance of the BHB7, in comparison to the VCT 16g?

Here was my experience. About three or four years ago, I developed a sore wrist attempting to make a slight technique change on my forehand. I was using Silver 7 Tour in an 18x19 SW104 racquet and the mis-hits were just too painful.

I was stringing then for a guy who had a tender elbow and his string was 18 gauge Cyclone Tour. I tried it in my SW104 and it was soft enough to let my wrist heal while I continued to play, but the tension maintenance and durability were terrible.

I tried some other strings that were soft but I needed a shaped and thin poly string to get the higher launch angle I preferred from the relatively dense pattern. Eventually I switched to 17 gauge BHB7 and while it wasn’t as cushy as 18 gauge Cyclone Tour, it was soft enough. Tension maintenance was good enough to get me to 10-12 hours which is about when I broke the S7T and the BHB7, though I was always completely satisfied with tension maintenance using S7T and the last couple of hours with BHB7 were not good but playable even though I increased my string tension.

After a couple of string jobs, I felt BHB7 was good enough that I switched to it full time, partially because I wanted to protect my wrist during mis-hits, and partially because I liked the extra ball speed. It was still my go to string when I made a racquet change probably 12-18 months later.