Help me choose a controllable power racket!

pdparos78

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Hey TT fam,

Some context.

I’m 46, but i’m fit and fast for my age. I’d say i’m around a 4.5 on a good day.
Here’s a very short clip of how I move and hit with my coach / hitting partner.

with coach (I was feeling a bit stiff that day and you can see i’m doing some
weird swings with my forehand as i’m trying to avoid my shoulder pain)
quick hit with older mate on this one


I’m ok at the baseline and have quick reflexes at net.

Currently using a Prince 97p
Before that I was using a K90 for 15 years and before that Prince Precision Response Ti for the previous 10 before that.

My shoulders are getting weaker and weaker due to a couple of shoulder ops in the past.

My trainer / hitting partner is an ex junior pro (played against Rune annd Musetti ans a junior so I consider myself lucky there) and although I can keep up with his pace staying relatively still soon as he moves me around, I can break down easily.

I need an easier to use and more powerful racket without losing that direct feeling and control i’m used to that suits my game.

Here’s a list of which i’ve only hit with the Solinco (which was great) and the Ezone 98 (which felt easy but super launchy and lacking feedback).

Eventually i’d like to compete in some seniors tournaments - nothing serious but I love tennis to a point of obsession (says my partner) and want to keep improving.

SOLINCO WHITEOUT 305 18x20 98

PRINCE ATS TEXTREME TOUR 98

WILSON BLADE 98

YONEX EZONE 98

YONEX PERCEPT 100 D

YONEX PERCEPT 100

WILSON RF01 300

DUNLOP FX500

BABOLAT PURE AERO 98

I’m confused as hell.
Where do I start?

Thanks fam
 
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I didn't you mention the possibility of a demo. If you are able to demo, then the best thing to do is to do a sort of "tournament" between all racquets. Basically, pick 2 racquets and play with both, the one you like more moves on to the next right. Keep doing this until you've exhausted all racquets you are interested in. Finally arrive at the winner as your racquet of choice. Keep in mind, when demoing, try to make all things as similar as possible including strings.
 
I didn't you mention the possibility of a demo. If you are able to demo, then the best thing to do is to do a sort of "tournament" between all racquets. Basically, pick 2 racquets and play with both, the one you like more moves on to the next right. Keep doing this until you've exhausted all racquets you are interested in. Finally arrive at the winner as your racquet of choice. Keep in mind, when demoing, try to make all things as similar as possible including strings.
I live in Greece, so the possibility of demoing everything on my list is not completely possible. I would have to get rackets from all different places some online, some in person but yes it’s definitely a good idea and I will try to do exactly this.
 
All racquets from the list except Dunlop are control oriented first and don't give much free power.
If I'm thinking "controllable power" two frames come to my mind : Ezone 100 and ATS 100p.
 
All racquets from the list except Dunlop are control oriented first and don't give much free power.
If I'm thinking "controllable power" two frames come to my mind : Ezone 100 and ATS 100p.
Yes I know, but i'm don't want rocket launchers, I'm looking for a step up from where I am. I actually hit with my hitting coach's ezone98 and I found that to be quite launchy and really easy to what i'm using now - almost like I felt like I was cheating. Thinking there would be an adjustment period for sure, but not to the point where i'd have to adjust my game too much. Remember I spent 15 years hitting with a K90 and in both those videos i'm actually using the K90 which I still use from time to time to work on my timing like a training racket.
 
@Boomersooner @Ryebread my hitting coach has one, so easy to access that to demo for a longer period. Found it super powerful and launchy and hard to control, but easy to use, but balls were sailing long. What do you expect the adjustment period to be?
 
@Boomersooner @Ryebread my hitting coach has one, so easy to access that to demo for a longer period. Found it super powerful and launchy and hard to control, but easy to use, but balls were sailing long. What do you expect the adjustment period to be?
I need to string the racquet, so I have to start somewhere. I don't want to be at 52lbs on an ezone 98, so I guess I'll start with 51.
Didn't think it would be launchy. I think the vcores all are, but ezone has a tighter string bed and very consistent.
surprising to hear that!
thank you for sharing!
 
What have you used in the past which you felt comfortable with? The Prince 97p is thin af for today’s specs, so a Percept 100 with its beam thickness of 23mm might take a while to get used to, specially with that one hander. It took me a couple of weeks to go from a Blade 98 to a Blade 100, which was my first 100 and those two frames aren’t that much different. At your age if you want to be competitive don’t go for the Blade unless you rely on finesse play, its tough to be competitive from the baseline against opponents your same age and level when they use Babs and you use a Blade 98.
You might also want to be cautious on going to a PA98 with that dodgy shoulder.
I’d say go for a 22mm beam frame, if possible 100 and thats soft i.e the Gravity or Blade 100 which won’t be such a drastic change from the Prince to an ezone 98 you struggle to control.
 
What have you used in the past which you felt comfortable with? The Prince 97p is thin af for today’s specs, so a Percept 100 with its beam thickness of 23mm might take a while to get used to, specially with that one hander. It took me a couple of weeks to go from a Blade 98 to a Blade 100, which was my first 100 and those two frames aren’t that much different. At your age if you want to be competitive don’t go for the Blade unless you rely on finesse play, its tough to be competitive from the baseline against opponents your same age and level when they use Babs and you use a Blade 98.
You might also want to be cautious on going to a PA98 with that dodgy shoulder.
I’d say go for a 22mm beam frame, if possible 100 and thats soft i.e the Gravity or Blade 100 which won’t be such a drastic change from the Prince to an ezone 98 you struggle to control.
I've tested the Solinco 305 Whiteout 18x20 which I found to be quite good, but I need to retest it, because that was a year ago.
I was playing with a Phantom Graphite 97 (Japan model) (with added weight) for a bit with Babolat Hurricane which was serviing me very well, but then I broke the strings and tried something new and it never felt the same and ended up selling it. Never replaced it with anything similar and went back to the 97p which came alive with Solinco Hybrid Tourbite and Vanquish.
It's interesting that you suggest a Gravity, because the specs are very close, apart from the RA. Would you say the Gravity Tour 305 or MP 295?
You're right, people are going to blow me off the court if they're using babs. Prince ATS Tour any good? People say good things. Head Graphene Speed? I really want to keep that direct feeling where I feel like I can point and shoot and flatten out shots close to the lines and finish points quick. Soon as I get into a baseline slugfest, it doesn't last longer that 4-5 shots so I need to finish it. I guess who's to say I can't do that with more of a power frame?
 
All racquets from the list except Dunlop are control oriented first and don't give much free power.
If I'm thinking "controllable power" two frames come to my mind : Ezone 100 and ATS 100p.
I was also thinking ATS 100p - I can't stand the horrble paint jobs though. WTF is wrong with Prince. They should get me to design their rackets. The Japanese license of Prince always make super nice looking frames. They have the tour line but a lot more minimal looking. I'm a photography and art director so I can't help appreciating aesthetics.
 
tried my friends Extreme Pro, felt like a rocket launcher instead of a powerful scalpel.
some can't hit completely flat with this tool.
also, tension/string could be a conversation.

but this is def a control frame
40 on the power scale on TW which is as low as it gets
but I do think it's more powerful than a blade 98
 
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some can't hit completely flat with this tool.
also, tension/string could be an conversation.

but this is def a control frame
40 on the power scale on TW which is as low as it gets
but I do think it's more powerful than a blade 98
Maybe my friends strings sucked. Definitely plays a role.
 
I was also thinking ATS 100p - I can't stand the horrble paint jobs though. WTF is wrong with Prince. They should get me to design their rackets. The Japanese license of Prince always make super nice looking frames. They have the tour line but a lot more minimal looking. I'm a photography and art director so I can't help appreciating aesthetics.
Tennis warehouse Europe has the 100p, 98, and 100(290) in the carbon finish if you end up liking the play. I don't mind the original tour paint but the carbon just looks cleaner.
 
Maybe my friends strings sucked. Definitely plays a role.

When you're determining tension, use the RA of whatever racquet you choose, divide it by 1.25, then -/+ 4lb.

I think you can't go wrong with a Blade, but my real recommendation would be to find a Clash v1 98. It's not the glamorous choice but it's what you are looking for. My right shoulder and arm got wrecked a few years ago and I feel your pain.

It's not a traditional control stick but I don't have a problem on touch shots and the potential to hit murderballs from anywhere on court kinda makes up for it
 
OP, what is the RA of your current frame, the 97p? 65ra? How long have you been taking these lessons? What else hurts besides your shoulder? Get well soon!
 
I've tested the Solinco 305 Whiteout 18x20 which I found to be quite good, but I need to retest it, because that was a year ago.
I was playing with a Phantom Graphite 97 (Japan model) (with added weight) for a bit with Babolat Hurricane which was serviing me very well, but then I broke the strings and tried something new and it never felt the same and ended up selling it. Never replaced it with anything similar and went back to the 97p which came alive with Solinco Hybrid Tourbite and Vanquish.
It's interesting that you suggest a Gravity, because the specs are very close, apart from the RA. Would you say the Gravity Tour 305 or MP 295?
You're right, people are going to blow me off the court if they're using babs. Prince ATS Tour any good? People say good things. Head Graphene Speed? I really want to keep that direct feeling where I feel like I can point and shoot and flatten out shots close to the lines and finish points quick. Soon as I get into a baseline slugfest, it doesn't last longer that 4-5 shots so I need to finish it. I guess who's to say I can't do that with more of a power frame?
I was actually going to suggest you hit the Phantom Graphite 97 again, as that reminded me somewhat of a slightly lower-powered Ezone DR 98 and has a pretty direct feel for a modern racquet. If you try the ATS tour line, I would demo the 95, 98, and 100p. The 95 is more forgiving than you might think. At least some of them are now available in a black ("carbon") finish. It still has the squiggly lines but is far more understated than the "Miami Vice" color scheme.
 
I've recently switched to Ezone 100 (from Gravity Tour, waiting on the Grav 98 next year). Loving it so far. Only downside is it's slightly stiffer than what I (or my arm) would like!
 
I've tested the Solinco 305 Whiteout 18x20 which I found to be quite good, but I need to retest it, because that was a year ago.
I was playing with a Phantom Graphite 97 (Japan model) (with added weight) for a bit with Babolat Hurricane which was serviing me very well, but then I broke the strings and tried something new and it never felt the same and ended up selling it. Never replaced it with anything similar and went back to the 97p which came alive with Solinco Hybrid Tourbite and Vanquish.
It's interesting that you suggest a Gravity, because the specs are very close, apart from the RA. Would you say the Gravity Tour 305 or MP 295?
You're right, people are going to blow me off the court if they're using babs. Prince ATS Tour any good? People say good things. Head Graphene Speed? I really want to keep that direct feeling where I feel like I can point and shoot and flatten out shots close to the lines and finish points quick. Soon as I get into a baseline slugfest, it doesn't last longer that 4-5 shots so I need to finish it. I guess who's to say I can't do that with more of a power frame?
I've only hit briefly with the Gravity MP and I did not like it at the time but that was when I was not used to 100sqin frames. Now I would probably chose that now and weight it up because I do not like 18x20 patterns no matter how open they are.
I played with the ATS 98 for a month but it gave me discomfort on the shoulder so quickly got rid. Its a good frame but I remember it was a bit launchy for me. Maybe it is for you as you already play with a Prince.
I switched to the Blade 100 8 months ago looking for a bit more power and forgiveness than the 98. Plenty of control and forgiveness, however I'm looking to switch away because I play on clay and everyone uses Babs around here, ever since I switched to the Blades my match level has decreased because my ball with the Blade doesn't have enough spin and doesn't jump that high so opponents can hit on their comfort zone. Also serving for is still a struggle after all these months. I was having a lot more success with the vcore and boom pro v1 before that but had to switch from the vcore because of TE and the boom still gave me some discomfort after playing.

I've been testing a weighted up Tecnifibre Tempo 298 which I got on some major discount, its stiff but its absolutely great all over the court. What I mean being blown out of the court for example I did 5 super tie breaks with my coach the other day and won 3 I played with the Tempo and struggled and lost the ones I played with my Blade 100. My second serve sits for hit and he kills me on the return, but with the Tempo I can get more spin which causes him to mistime the return more often as the spin takes it out of his comfort hitting zone.

It might be that you need to gradually move from one extreme to the other between control and power, thats why the ez98 and pa98 might be too much of a big jump in loss of control. I mean you can do it, but you can't give up on the frame in the short term, you'll need to give them plenty of time.
 
I've only hit briefly with the Gravity MP and I did not like it at the time but that was when I was not used to 100sqin frames. Now I would probably chose that now and weight it up because I do not like 18x20 patterns no matter how open they are.
I played with the ATS 98 for a month but it gave me discomfort on the shoulder so quickly got rid. Its a good frame but I remember it was a bit launchy for me. Maybe it is for you as you already play with a Prince.
I switched to the Blade 100 8 months ago looking for a bit more power and forgiveness than the 98. Plenty of control and forgiveness, however I'm looking to switch away because I play on clay and everyone uses Babs around here, ever since I switched to the Blades my match level has decreased because my ball with the Blade doesn't have enough spin and doesn't jump that high so opponents can hit on their comfort zone. Also serving for is still a struggle after all these months. I was having a lot more success with the vcore and boom pro v1 before that but had to switch from the vcore because of TE and the boom still gave me some discomfort after playing.

I've been testing a weighted up Tecnifibre Tempo 298 which I got on some major discount, its stiff but its absolutely great all over the court. What I mean being blown out of the court for example I did 5 super tie breaks with my coach the other day and won 3 I played with the Tempo and struggled and lost the ones I played with my Blade 100. My second serve sits for hit and he kills me on the return, but with the Tempo I can get more spin which causes him to mistime the return more often as the spin takes it out of his comfort hitting zone.

It might be that you need to gradually move from one extreme to the other between control and power, thats why the ez98 and pa98 might be too much of a big jump in loss of control. I mean you can do it, but you can't give up on the frame in the short term, you'll need to give them plenty of time.
Yeah interesting. I agree. I don't want to jump all over the place because if I do, I know my game will suffer a lot. They say the 97p is just a flexier Gravity. I know I like headlight rackets, but they need high static weight otherwise they're just too weak.
I'm curious to try a Pure Aero, and at the opposite end also curious to try an RF01. I love to attack and hit balls in the corners for winners. I'm not interested in getting stuck in a baseline slugfest, because mentally, i'm better at shorter points. I know myself and if a rally goes on too long and i'm the slower guy, i'll be the one to make an error first. I also don't like time to think. Reflexes are my strong suit, I react well, I don't do well with the balls are slow and I have time to think. So whatever will help me achieve my best tennis with the way I play, that's what i'm going for. I'm imagining to do this properly, it's going to be quite a process.

The reason i'm doing this actually is because i've started hitting with an junior ex-pro, and he's basically holding up a mirror and showing me all the weak parts of my game and where I fall apart.
I need to add explosive movement training to my routine, because although i'm strong and fit for my age, I don't think i'm that fast anymore. Side stepping to reach balls with pace and hitting while i'm still moving into positing is getting harder and harder.
 
When you're determining tension, use the RA of whatever racquet you choose, divide it by 1.25, then -/+ 4lb.

I think you can't go wrong with a Blade, but my real recommendation would be to find a Clash v1 98. It's not the glamorous choice but it's what you are looking for. My right shoulder and arm got wrecked a few years ago and I feel your pain.

It's not a traditional control stick but I don't have a problem on touch shots and the potential to hit murderballs from anywhere on court kinda makes up for it
I tried a friends Clash, and hated it - super head heavy and lacking precision for me. He can't even use it properly. Seems to have power. I don't really like Wilson's current lines except maybe the Blade, but I've owened the K Blade 93 and PS K90. I'm learning I like super headlight rackets with high static weights. I'm also wondering if this is the correct spec for me, or do I need a more balanced racket?
 
I really enjoy my V14 Pro Staff 97. It’s not too hard to swing and feels more powerful than my blades. It is a little stiffer than the blades though so that may be a concern for your arm. The balance of power and control is great in my opinion.
 
I tried a friends Clash, and hated it - super head heavy and lacking precision for me. He can't even use it properly. Seems to have power. I don't really like Wilson's current lines except maybe the Blade, but I've owened the K Blade 93 and PS K90. I'm learning I like super headlight rackets with high static weights. I'm also wondering if this is the correct spec for me, or do I need a more balanced racket?

Clashes are less head heavy than Blades. Unless he was playing with a 108
 
Given that your tennis looks like you rather hit a flat and classic ball, I wouldn't recommend you to look into the spin category too much.
Out of the rackets you named, a lot are rather spin oriented frames (e.g. Aero 98)

If you want something similar to your 97p, but with a tad more power and modern touch, go for the ATS Tour 98
Paintjobs don't matter in the end, but racket feeling does and it will still have that good old Prince feeling with more modern response

Other options around that category could be the Whiteout 98 or the Percept 100D, that are more modern but with classic feels

If you want to go a bit more towards the modern and powerful edge, in my opinion you could look for an Ezone 98 or the Dunlop FX
The Blade is really a control racket in disguise, but might be worth a try here is well
 
Given that your tennis looks like you rather hit a flat and classic ball, I wouldn't recommend you to look into the spin category too much.
Out of the rackets you named, a lot are rather spin oriented frames (e.g. Aero 98)

If you want something similar to your 97p, but with a tad more power and modern touch, go for the ATS Tour 98
Paintjobs don't matter in the end, but racket feeling does and it will still have that good old Prince feeling with more modern response

Other options around that category could be the Whiteout 98 or the Percept 100D, that are more modern but with classic feels

If you want to go a bit more towards the modern and powerful edge, in my opinion you could look for an Ezone 98 or the Dunlop FX
The Blade is really a control racket in disguise, but might be worth a try here is well
thank you for the advice very logical responses. I mostly agree with everything you’ve suggested. Thank you
 
When you're determining tension, use the RA of whatever racquet you choose, divide it by 1.25, then -/+ 4lb.

I think you can't go wrong with a Blade, but my real recommendation would be to find a Clash v1 98. It's not the glamorous choice but it's what you are looking for. My right shoulder and arm got wrecked a few years ago and I feel your pain.

It's not a traditional control stick but I don't have a problem on touch shots and the potential to hit murderballs from anywhere on court kinda makes up for it

I have never heard that formula before, so interesting

so a 65 ra is 52, and then you reduce by 10% for poly = 46.8
 
OK, time to chime in here and get you squared away. I researched all your previous posts, and combined with the discussion here, I think I've got a pretty good idea on the best fit for you.

Profile:
- Physical: 46-yo male, decently fit, shoulder injury/surgery history
- Level: 4.0-ish level (from what I'm seeing on the videos anyways)
- Mechanics: medium-length strokes, coordination and kinetic chain usage consummate with a 4.0-ish level
- Technique: Extreme eastern FH, OHBH
- Play Style: First-strike, baseline-centric all-courter (wants to end the point ASAP)
- Past Racquets: Heavier, more head-light, smaller-headed, thinner-beamed, boxy control frames (K90, 97P, etc.)

Goals:
- Close enough to past frames to not have to retool his entire game
- More forgiveness in general, including help while scrambling
- Easier ability to convert defense/neutral to precision offense
- High enough static and recoil weight for adequate shot tolerance when more stationary
- Better on more types of surfaces (clay, etc)
- Comfortable enough to not exacerbate his shoulder/arm issues

Best Specs:
I would look at a modern "pleener" (player/tweener cross-over frame) with the largest head size, most open pattern and firmest flex that is still maneuverable, precise and comfortable enough, specifically conforming to:
- Head Size: nothing <=97" (at your level, not enough routine upsides), only more forgiving 98's/99's, otherwise more balanced 100-102"
- Weight: 295-305g with minimal to moderate customization, or 310-315g with zero to minimal customization
- Beam: Hybrid-box, better for flatter striking, constant-width or close to it (for predictable response), >=22mm but <24mm at the mid-point (best power/control balance)
- Pattern: As open as is still precise enough, so probably semi-dense 16-mains, or open/accommodating 18-mains; very true/consistent string bed, minimal/zero hot-spots
- Swing Weight: mid-upper 320's SW strung to no more than 330-ish SW, for best balance of enough ease-of-maneuverability with enough plow/power
- Flex/Feel: as firm and direct as you can get away with, perhaps low-mid 60's RA and up to 140's Hz handle vibration
- Other: connected handle-to-hoop feel without an excessively flexy neck or fluttery hoop

All of that considered, here's what I would look at:
- Babolat Strike 98 16x19 (I think the 18x20 will be too demanding a string bed) - With handle weight, could be a winner. I'd only order via matching service, though, for the bottom end in swing weight.
- Babolat Strike 100 16x19 (I think you'd find the 16x20 too flexy/floppy, too high in RW and low in MGR/i ie. too slow/loopy) - With handle weight and controlled poly, this could be a winner.
- Dunlop CX 400 Tour - Along side the Strike 100, probably the highest power-to-weight ratio you'll want in a frame, but this is probably the most worthy "upper bounds test" of anything out there.
- Head Extreme Pro - Nice all-around performance. Will probably need light customization (heavier grip, perhaps a tiny bit of lead at 10 & 2 or 9 & 3 + 12), and very crisp strings to get enough feel. Worth a try though.
- Head Boom Pro - Definitely worth a try. Nice and solid on contact. Though the feel will be muted and a bit vague, so the absolute most crisp strings are a must, but if you can get over that, it could be a winner.
- Head Gravity MP (spec'd up) - I don't think you're going to find the Pro/Tour 18x20 + big tear-drop combo to provide enough definition or lift. And the MP might not either, but at least you'll get some easier lift/spin.
- Head Radical MP - I know there are those who are going to say Pro, but IMHO it's too low on power-to-weight. And even the MP might be. But possibly worth a try. Not outstanding at anything, but a great all-rounder.
- Prince ATS Tour 98 - Other than the 100P, this is probably the best choice for you from Prince. Just need to get one via matching service, because there are so many over-spec samples out there.
- Prince ATS Tour 100P - Like a Speed Pro but a better design for all-court/attacking. Lifts/spins/pops more like a 16-main, but with 18x20 level consistency and composition. Especially good at lower tension.
- Solinco WhiteOut 18x20 - Definitely worth a revisit. Going to need to be setup towards 330SW to hit as big a ball as you probably want, but if you can handle the SW, definitely worth another look.
- Tecnifibre TF40 16m (prob 315 over the 305, with a little tip weight) - On the fence here, as it's probably lower power-to-weight and ease-of-playability (esp. on clay) than you should really look at, but worth a try.
- Tecnifibre TFight 98's - IGA is a "can-I-control-it" like an EZ98, but more open. ISO 300 is questionable stock + finicky w/ customization. ISO 315 is clubby. ISO 305, despite the fanboy-ism, requires a 4.5+ IMHO.
- Wilson RF01 300g - Going to need a fair amount of customizing (handle weight, plus lead at 10 & 2), and low tension with shock-absorbing strings. Even so, may still not be forgiving enough. Still probably worth a try.
- Wilson Blade 100 v9 - Swap to a more heavy base grip, like a Gamma Hi-Tech, plus over-grip, and should be good. It does have at least a bit of that Blade -type balance, though, which may or may not agree with you.
- Wilson Pro Staff X - Almost ready-to-play in stock form. Slap on an over grip, maybe some very light hoop lead, and good to go. May feel a bit too sluggish overall, but definitely worth a try.
- Yonex EZone 98 - The main exercise with the EZ98 is learning to control it (as you've found out). Feel is meh and it can still behave a bit kludgy/clunky, but people win with it, so it could be worth more of your time.
- Yonex Percept 100 (maybe 100D) - Start with the 100, only go to the 100D if you absolutely feel the extra precision and 5g really adds that much to your game.

Of all of those in the list, I'd probably start with a revisit of the WhiteOut 18x20, to give yourself a baseline on what is, IMHO, the lowest-powered frame you should look at. Then, I would go right into testing your upper-bounds on power-to-weight, OHBH maneuverability and control-ability, with some mix of the Strike 100 16x19, CX 400 Tour and/or Percept 100 (not the D, at least not at first). If you like the head size but need to ramp down the power and/or increase the precision, then I'd look at the Tour 100P (which they do make in Carbon Gray now for Europe), Blade 100, PS X or P100D. If you don't like the head size and think that for whatever reason a sub-100" is where you want to stay, then I'd look at the ATS Tour 98, which I think will give you Strike 98 -level attacking capability, but with a more familiar feel and more versatility, presuming it's on-spec at 290-295sw unstrung (so as much as it stinks, you'd have to buy one, and do so via matching service – trust me on that one; you don't want one that's 300+SW unstrung, as many of them are). Other than the ATS 98, the Heads are decent, fairly disconnected in feel but play well enough, and for how flat you hit and want to play first-strike, potentially the Boom more so than the Extreme or GMP. The RF01 will be more raw and potentially attacking-capable, but it's not a very forgiving frame. And lastly the EZ98. Fairly numb, a bit kludgy and easily wild if you don't put extra emphasis on managing face angle and/or enough swipe, but, as I said and as you know, people win with it, so, yeah. The "easy" button, that you just have to learn to control (and stomach the mediocre feel).

Hope some/most of that helps. Any questions, feel free.
 
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Hey TT fam,

Some context.

I’m 46, but i’m fit and fast for my age. I’d say i’m around a 4.5 on a good day.
Here’s a very short clip of how I move and hit with my coach / hitting partner.

with coach (I was feeling a bit stiff that day and you can see i’m doing some
weird swings with my forehand as i’m trying to avoid my shoulder pain)



quick hit with older mate on this one


I’m ok at the baseline and have quick reflexes at net.

Currently using a Prince 97p
Before that I was using a K90 for 15 years and before that Prince Precision Response Ti for the previous 10 before that.

My shoulders are getting weaker and weaker due to a couple of shoulder ops in the past.

My trainer / hitting partner is an ex junior pro (played against Rune annd Musetti ans a junior so I consider myself lucky there) and although I can keep up with his pace staying relatively still soon as he moves me around, I can break down easily.

I need an easier to use and more powerful racket without losing that direct feeling and control i’m used to that suits my game.

Here’s a list of which i’ve only hit with the Solinco (which was great) and the Ezone 98 (which felt easy but super launchy and lacking feedback).

Eventually i’d like to compete in some seniors tournaments - nothing serious but I love tennis to a point of obsession (says my partner) and want to keep improving.

SOLINCO WHITEOUT 305 18x20 98

PRINCE ATS TEXTREME TOUR 98

WILSON BLADE 98

YONEX EZONE 98

YONEX PERCEPT 100 D

YONEX PERCEPT 100

WILSON RF01 300

DUNLOP FX500

BABOLAT PURE AERO 98

I’m confused as hell.
Where do I start?

Thanks fam
I wouldn't do a closed pattern based on your stroke path and the ball flight it looks relatively flat as is.. Adding a closed pattern will make it even flatter. I would go open pattern. Based on what you are looking for with a feeling of connectedness to the ball but also some power generation, I would say start with the blade pro 16x19. It's a flatter beam so it'll have a more traditional feel but it's also thicker and stiffer so it will have some juice. Next I would look at the white out 16x19, possibly in extended length of 27.5 or even 28. They swing surprisingly easily and the ball moves well off the racket, Then I would try the Yonex percept but go for the 100, again, still flat beam but a bit thicker to create more power. Last before I venture out into others you've listed above, try a speed MP. Flatish beam geometry but on the thick side to provide power. I'd steer clear of the Aero or Drive 98s and the yonex ezones if looking for traditionalish feel.
 
I wouldn't do a closed pattern based on your stroke path and the ball flight it looks relatively flat as is.. Adding a closed pattern will make it even flatter. I would go open pattern. Based on what you are looking for with a feeling of connectedness to the ball but also some power generation, I would say start with the blade pro 16x19. It's a flatter beam so it'll have a more traditional feel but it's also thicker and stiffer so it will have some juice. Next I would look at the white out 16x19, possibly in extended length of 27.5 or even 28. They swing surprisingly easily and the ball moves well off the racket, Then I would try the Yonex percept but go for the 100, again, still flat beam but a bit thicker to create more power. Last before I venture out into others you've listed above, try a speed MP. Flatish beam geometry but on the thick side to provide power. I'd steer clear of the Aero or Drive 98s and the yonex ezones if looking for traditionalish feel.
Good stuff in general, but I personally wouldn't direct him towards a Blade Pro. First off, sourcing could be tough in Greece, but more importantly, too demanding and likely one-dimensional for his level and current goals. I think there are other easy-playing options out there, several of which you mentioned, that would make his tennis almost as potent/lethal, while affording him a much better match for where his fundamentals and physicality are at, especially on clay. Just my 2 cents anyways.
 
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If you can you should try Babolat Pure Strike 16/19 ideally 2017 One7 version. For one hander you may need to add some weight in the handle but this will give you an all court racket with everything you need an more!
 
All racquets from the list except Dunlop are control oriented first and don't give much free power.
If I'm thinking "controllable power" two frames come to my mind : Ezone 100 and ATS 100p.

Even the Prince ATS 100 non P 16X18 gives you controllable power. Dunno how Prince do it.
I used to use 18X20's. I eventually migrated to the 100P, then after using the ATS and 100T's, stuck with those.
Great control, power, and second to none in feel.
 
Given that your tennis looks like you rather hit a flat and classic ball, I wouldn't recommend you to look into the spin category too much.
Out of the rackets you named, a lot are rather spin oriented frames (e.g. Aero 98)

If you want something similar to your 97p, but with a tad more power and modern touch, go for the ATS Tour 98
Paintjobs don't matter in the end, but racket feeling does and it will still have that good old Prince feeling with more modern response

Other options around that category could be the Whiteout 98 or the Percept 100D, that are more modern but with classic feels

If you want to go a bit more towards the modern and powerful edge, in my opinion you could look for an Ezone 98 or the Dunlop FX
The Blade is really a control racket in disguise, but might be worth a try here is well
I'm adding the RF01 in the demo mix. I know it's not the easiest frame to use, but how surely it will be easier than what i'm using now, with more power. I want to take an incremental step, not a leap in racket choice.
 
Controllable power?
Speed pro 18x20 23 mm beam.
Percept 100D 18x19 23 mm beam
Gravity Mp 16x20 22 mm beam (customize is an option
All decent option according to my research. My friend has a Gravity and playing with him tonight so i'll give it a test. Have tried Speed MP - was ok. Great on serve, so so on everything else, but I tested it on clay so not fair to conclude on that until I test on hard. Percept 100D, yes, definitely interests me. TennComm has been raving about it recently.
 
I wouldn't do a closed pattern based on your stroke path and the ball flight it looks relatively flat as is.. Adding a closed pattern will make it even flatter. I would go open pattern. Based on what you are looking for with a feeling of connectedness to the ball but also some power generation, I would say start with the blade pro 16x19. It's a flatter beam so it'll have a more traditional feel but it's also thicker and stiffer so it will have some juice. Next I would look at the white out 16x19, possibly in extended length of 27.5 or even 28. They swing surprisingly easily and the ball moves well off the racket, Then I would try the Yonex percept but go for the 100, again, still flat beam but a bit thicker to create more power. Last before I venture out into others you've listed above, try a speed MP. Flatish beam geometry but on the thick side to provide power. I'd steer clear of the Aero or Drive 98s and the yonex ezones if looking for traditionalish feel.
You're right. Whevever I used to pick up my Blade 93 which is an 18x20, for the first half an hour, a lot of my shot would clip the net. I am addicted to that traditional feel, but in the end if I want to start winning matches against strong players, I might have to forego that feel.
 
OK, time to chime in here and get you squared away. I researched all your previous posts, and combined with the discussion here, I think I've got a pretty good idea on the best fit for you.

Profile:
- Physical: 46-yo male, decently fit, shoulder injury/surgery history
- Level: 4.0-ish level (from what I'm seeing on the videos anyways)
- Mechanics: medium-length strokes, coordination and kinetic chain usage consummate with a 4.0-ish level
- Technique: Extreme eastern FH, OHBH
- Play Style: First-strike, baseline-centric all-courter (wants to end the point ASAP)
- Past Racquets: Heavier, more head-light, smaller-headed, thinner-beamed, boxy control frames (K90, 97P, etc.)

Goals:
- Close enough to past frames to not have to retool his entire game
- More forgiveness in general, including help while scrambling
- Easier ability to convert defense/neutral to precision offense
- High enough static and recoil weight for adequate shot tolerance when more stationary
- Better on more types of surfaces (clay, etc)
- Comfortable enough to not exacerbate his shoulder/arm issues

Best Specs:
I would look at a modern "pleener" (player/tweener cross-over frame) with the largest head size, most open pattern and firmest flex that is still maneuverable, precise and comfortable enough, specifically conforming to:
- Head Size: nothing <=97" (at your level, not enough routine upsides), only more forgiving 98's/99's, otherwise more balanced 100-102"
- Weight: 295-305g with minimal to moderate customization, or 310-315g with zero to minimal customization
- Beam: Hybrid-box, better for flatter striking, constant-width or close to it (for predictable response), >=22mm but <24mm at the mid-point (best power/control balance)
- Pattern: As open as is still precise enough, so probably semi-dense 16-mains, or open/accommodating 18-mains; very true/consistent string bed, minimal/zero hot-spots
- Swing Weight: mid-upper 320's SW strung to no more than 330-ish SW, for best balance of enough ease-of-maneuverability with enough plow/power
- Flex/Feel: as firm and direct as you can get away with, perhaps low-mid 60's RA and up to 140's Hz handle vibration
- Other: connected handle-to-hoop feel without an excessively flexy neck or fluttery hoop

All of that considered, here's what I would look at:
- Babolat Strike 98 16x19 (I think the 18x20 will be too demanding a string bed) - With handle weight, could be a winner. I'd only order via matching service, though, for the bottom end in swing weight.
- Babolat Strike 100 16x19 (I think you'd find the 16x20 too flexy/floppy, too high in RW and low in MGR/i ie. too slow/loopy) - With handle weight and controlled poly, this could be a winner.
- Dunlop CX 400 Tour - Along side the Strike 100, probably the highest power-to-weight ratio you'll want in a frame, but this is probably the most worthy "upper bounds test" of anything out there.
- Head Extreme Pro - Nice all-around performance. Will probably need light customization (heavier grip, perhaps a tiny bit of lead at 10 & 2 or 9 & 3 + 12), and very crisp strings to get enough feel. Worth a try though.
- Head Boom Pro - Definitely worth a try. Nice and solid on contact. Though the feel will be muted and a bit vague, so the absolute most crisp strings are a must, but if you can get over that, it could be a winner.
- Head Gravity MP (spec'd up) - I don't think you're going to find the Pro/Tour 18x20 + big tear-drop combo to provide enough definition or lift. And the MP might not either, but at least you'll get some easier lift/spin.
- Head Radical MP - I know there are those who are going to say Pro, but IMHO it's too low on power-to-weight. And even the MP might be. But possibly worth a try. Not outstanding at anything, but a great all-rounder.
- Prince ATS Tour 98 - Other than the 100P, this is probably the best choice for you from Prince. Just need to get one via matching service, because there are so many over-spec samples out there.
- Prince ATS Tour 100P - Like a Speed Pro but a better design for all-court/attacking. Lifts/spins/pops more like a 16-main, but with 18x20 level consistency and composition. Especially good at lower tension.
- Solinco WhiteOut 18x20 - Definitely worth a revisit. Going to need to be setup towards 330SW to hit as big a ball as you probably want, but if you can handle the SW, definitely worth another look.
- Tecnifibre TF40 16m (prob 315 over the 305, with a little tip weight) - On the fence here, as it's probably lower power-to-weight and ease-of-playability (esp. on clay) than you should really look at, but worth a try.
- Tecnifibre TFight 98's - IGA is a "can-I-control-it" like an EZ98, but more open. ISO 300 is questionable stock + finicky w/ customization. ISO 315 is clubby. ISO 305, despite the fanboy-ism, requires a 4.5+ IMHO.
- Wilson RF01 300g - Going to need a fair amount of customizing (handle weight, plus lead at 10 & 2), and low tension with shock-absorbing strings. Even so, may still not be forgiving enough. Still probably worth a try.
- Wilson Blade 100 v9 - Swap to a more heavy base grip, like a Gamma Hi-Tech, plus over-grip, and should be good. It does have at least a bit of that Blade -type balance, though, which may or may not agree with you.
- Wilson Pro Staff X - Almost ready-to-play in stock form. Slap on an over grip, maybe some very light hoop lead, and good to go. May feel a bit too sluggish overall, but definitely worth a try.
- Yonex EZone 98 - The main exercise with the EZ98 is learning to control it (as you've found out). Feel is meh and it can still behave a bit kludgy/clunky, but people win with it, so it could be worth more of your time.
- Yonex Percept 100 (maybe 100D) - Start with the 100, only go to the 100D if you absolutely feel the extra precision and 5g really adds that much to your game.

Of all of those in the list, I'd probably start with a revisit of the WhiteOut 18x20, to give yourself a baseline on what is, IMHO, the lowest-powered frame you should look at. Then, I would go right into testing your upper-bounds on power-to-weight, OHBH maneuverability and control-ability, with some mix of the Strike 100 16x19, CX 400 Tour and/or Percept 100 (not the D, at least not at first). If you like the head size but need to ramp down the power and/or increase the precision, then I'd look at the Tour 100P (which they do make in Carbon Gray now for Europe), Blade 100, PS X or P100D. If you don't like the head size and think that for whatever reason a sub-100" is where you want to stay, then I'd look at the ATS Tour 98, which I think will give you Strike 98 -level attacking capability, but with a more familiar feel and more versatility, presuming it's on-spec at 290-295sw unstrung (so as much as it stinks, you'd have to buy one, and do so via matching service – trust me on that one; you don't want one that's 300+SW unstrung, as many of them are). Other than the ATS 98, the Heads are decent, fairly disconnected in feel but play well enough, and for how flat you hit and want to play first-strike, potentially the Boom more so than the Extreme or GMP. The RF01 will be more raw and potentially attacking-capable, but it's not a very forgiving frame. And lastly the EZ98. Fairly numb, a bit kludgy and easily wild if you don't put extra emphasis on managing face angle and/or enough swipe, but, as I said and as you know, people win with it, so, yeah. The "easy" button, that you just have to learn to control (and stomach the mediocre feel).

Hope some/most of that helps. Any questions, feel free.
Thank you @Trip for the very detailed effort in your response. All very good advice which I agree with mostly. i'm quite curios about the RF01, for the main reason that it might not be too much of a depature of where I am now. I know i'm choosing the most difficult to use racket of the bunch, but until I demo it, I can't know for sure if it's not a wise choice. Whiteout for sure, ATSTour98 for sure I know I will like being Prince I can almost predict it. I can get most rackets on that list to demo, Greece has a few great tennis shops, the eTennis chain does decent demo programs, and Tennis Land owned by an ex atp tour stringer stocks all the best lines.
Bottom line is I have to work on my technique and explosive movement more - i'm totally self taught and there's some deficiencies in the consistency of my stroke which video analysis and playing with junior ex pros have revealed.
The racket is only going to get me half way there.
 
@pdparos78 - Indeed, I agree on your take-aways. Clearly you have to keep working on yourself (we all do!), but a racquet that is the most well-optimized for your biomechanics and game style will help maximize the work you're putting in!

If/when you do try the RF01, I would see if you can somehow perhaps get a more lengthy demo period with it, as it appears to be a frame that takes some getting used to. With that, I would try to get it strung fresh, and in doing so, listen to almost all of the reviewers out there and make sure to get it strung LOW in tension -- ie. full-bed of poly no higher than low-mid 40's lbs, a hybrid no higher than upper 40's, and zero-poly no higher than 50-ish to low 50's. That will open up the sweet spot and increase off-center forgiveness as much as absolutely possible.

As for the others, I think you have a pretty good take on pro's and con's. I'll be keen to see your updates as you have time. Best of luck!
 
@pdparos78 - Indeed, I agree on your take-aways. Clearly you have to keep working on yourself (we all do!), but a racquet that is the most well-optimized for your biomechanics and game style will help maximize the work you're putting in!

If/when you do try the RF01, I would see if you can somehow perhaps get a more lengthy demo period with it, as it appears to be a frame that takes some getting used to. With that, I would try to get it strung fresh, and in doing so, listen to almost all of the reviewers out there and make sure to get it strung LOW in tension -- ie. full-bed of poly no higher than low-mid 40's lbs, a hybrid no higher than upper 40's, and zero-poly no higher than 50-ish to low 50's. That will open up the sweet spot and increase off-center forgiveness as much as absolutely possible.

As for the others, I think you have a pretty good take on pro's and con's. I'll be keen to see your updates as you have time. Best of luck!
yes absolutely I’ve actually done quite extensive research on the reviews of the new RF line and everyone is saying the same thing as you. Especially I listen to Tennis nerd. He is quite knowledgeable and I respect his opinion and level of play. Over the next 12 months I want to do extensive video analysis and really improve on the consistency of my mechanics because I know I have some natural ability given I was self taught and I picked up a lot by myself, but I can see that I need that level of finesse which is absent from lack of coaching. I’ve improved a lot in the last two years - when I was younger I played quite well because I relied on my youth and movement and everything was instinct and some talent. Now that my agility and eyesight is pretty much half of what it was I have to level up in technique and strategy. What I’m actually getting into a lot more lately is trying to use elastic based power which I’m finding is helping a lot tonight in not tiring out my body.
 
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