Help me choose between these stringing machines

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iscottius

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1. Alpha Revo 4000
2. Gamma x-st
3. Laserfibre 200 tt
4. eagnas combo 910

I have read some of the reviews, they are all close enough in price so it is not an issue. I am looking for a machine for home stringing use 5-10 racquets a week. I am looking for the machine that is easiest to use, fast, produces a high quality string job and will last the longest.
 
if you need more specific info about the X-ST I can give it to you. I've never used the other machine so I don't want to comment, but I could compare all of them from pictures if you need some more help.

bret
 
My choice would be the Gamma x-st.

I bought a Combo 910 a few months ago but if I had to do it over, Gamma would be it. 5 to 10 racquets a week is a pretty good volume.

Heck... you even have a Gamma Tech as a resource if you need help. EXCELLENT!!!
 
I bought an X-ST a few months back and am totally happy with it. Very high quality construction, very consistent and repeatable in how rackets are strung with it. I've done maybe 15-20 frames, from wood rackets up to 115 sq. in., and tensions from 45 lbs up to 72 lbs. It works beautifully.
 
Gamma Tech said:
if you need more specific info about the X-ST I can give it to you. I've never used the other machine so I don't want to comment, but I could compare all of them from pictures if you need some more help.

bret
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does the x-st have spring assisted clamp bases? where is the best place to buy? can I get the string I want?

s
 
I just recieved my new Gamma X-ST this past Friday. I Am very pleased with my new purchase. The company that I ordered it from offered free shipping. I ordered it on a Monday and received it on Friday WOW Fast!!!! Still haven't strung my first racquet. Still have to figure that out;) !!!!!!!!!!! If you need a place to order contact me personally.
 
iscottius said:
does the x-st have spring assisted clamp bases? where is the best place to buy? can I get the string I want?

s
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I'm new back to tennis so I'm not exactlu sure what a spring assisted clamp base is. The clamp base on the X-ST require a wingnut type lever be swiveled through about 100 degrees of arc to lock in place, and a lever to engage the swiveling clamp onto the string. I believe there's another type of clamp which only requires one lever to both lock the base and clamp the string, but those don't swivel so fan-type patterns, like my son's TiS5, are more difficult with those clamps.

I got a string package with 12 different packs of string (6 packs of TNT Fat Core plus one or two each of Revelation, Challenger, a clear blue-spiral nylon, and a string that is similar to Prince Topspin. There may have been one other type of string that I can't remember. The free pack also came with a number of grips, vibration dampeners, and racket head tape.

I've purchased all of the strings I've used from Tennis Warehouse.
 
iscottius said:
1. Alpha Revo 4000
2. Gamma x-st
3. Laserfibre 200 tt
4. eagnas combo 910

I have read some of the reviews, they are all close enough in price so it is not an issue. I am looking for a machine for home stringing use 5-10 racquets a week. I am looking for the machine that is easiest to use, fast, produces a high quality string job and will last the longest.
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Things to make sure you get on any stringer:

1. Fixed clamps
2. Six pointing mounting system
3. Secure mounting system

The 910 is not a table-top like the other 3. The 910 has spring assisted clamps which are a step up in my opinion from other machines in this price category.

You might ask GammaTech if the Gamma comes with spring assisted clamps, it was determined earlier that the 5003 model does not.

Any of the machines will perform stringing, but the 3 items at the top are the most important, whose name on the machine is not significant.

Just my two cents worth.
 
barry said:
Things to make sure you get on any stringer:

1. Fixed clamps
2. Six pointing mounting system
3. Secure mounting system

The 910 is not a table-top like the other 3. The 910 has spring assisted clamps which are a step up in my opinion from other machines in this price category.

You might ask GammaTech if the Gamma comes with spring assisted clamps, it was determined earlier that the 5003 model does not.

Any of the machines will perform stringing, but the 3 items at the top are the most important, whose name on the machine is not significant.

Just my two cents worth.
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I appreciate the feedback, I like the features of the 910, but I am not sure I want to deal with the company. I have heard alot of bad things about maxline (victor) but I have also heard that thi is one of thier better machines.

right now I am leaning towards the Alpha Revo 4000, due to the whole package:

Price
Customer Service
String package

**recently Alpha has upgraded the 4K to include spring assisted clamps as well as a stronger turntable with stainles tracks for the clamps.

I like X-ST from Gamma, but it is 40.00 more expensive and the string that comes with machine is a sample of thier choice as oppossed to a string credit from Alpha of my choice.

The customer service from Gamma is excellent, and the feedback on the machine is also excellent. If they had one of the other two--same price as Alpha or better string package, I would probably buy it, but they are making it hard for me to buy thier machine.

Iscottius
 
iscottius said:
I appreciate the feedback, I like the features of the 910, but I am not sure I want to deal with the company. I have heard alot of bad things about maxline (victor) but I have also heard that thi is one of thier better machines.

right now I am leaning towards the Alpha Revo 4000, due to the whole package:

Price
Customer Service
String package

**recently Alpha has upgraded the 4K to include spring assisted clamps as well as a stronger turntable with stainles tracks for the clamps.

I like X-ST from Gamma, but it is 40.00 more expensive and the string that comes with machine is a sample of thier choice as oppossed to a string credit from Alpha of my choice.

The customer service from Gamma is excellent, and the feedback on the machine is also excellent. If they had one of the other two--same price as Alpha or better string package, I would probably buy it, but they are making it hard for me to buy thier machine.

Iscottius
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Keep leaning towards the Alpha Revo, you won't be disappointed...
 
You can't really go wrong with the alpha revo 4000 or gamma stringers.

I'd get the alpha revo 4000. I considered it, but didn't have the volume of rackets to justify buying it.
 
equinox,
I am upgrading from a klippermate, it has served me well and I would recommend it to anyone who doesn't string a ton. What machine are you using? I don't do a whole lotta racquets, but I cleared out my closet of racquets that I no longer use, sold my Klippermate and will kick in a few bucks and upgrade to this machine for life

iscottius
 
I have seen the Alpha 4K personally but I chose the Gamma X-ST. It was a few more dollars more but I know that I made the right choice as far as machines and I am more than happy:) . On the Alpha I didn't like all the blue paint on the mounting system and arms. The Alpha that I saw the paint was chipping from all the use and that look didn't appeal to me. To me the Gamma has a cleaner look and I liked the 6 pt mounting system better on the Gamma.

As far as the strings are concerned. I wasn't that pleased with the strings that Gamma chose to send me. Acording to their ad the strings were of their choosing. The add said ---

"FREE String/Grip package (Retail Value - $175) consists of 1 each of the Live Wire XP 17g, TNT 17g, Infinity 15L, Duraspin 16g, Gamma Gut XL 16g, Synthetic 16g, 1 ProLite Grip, 1 Pro Wrap Overgrip (Package contents may vary slightly, as the manufacturer always includes their latest products).

The strings that I actually got were 12 sets of Gamma TNT Rx 17. All the same ???????? Even though the Retail is $15.95 each. I was hopeing for more variety.

Besides all this I wouldn't let the strings that you are getting with your order determine the machine that you want. The machine will be around alot longer that the free strings.
 
Well, you said you've already ordered, but I was choosing between the Alpha and the LaserFibre myself (my third option was a Silent Partner electric).

I ended up getting the LaserFibre, and am happy with it. But I'm sure I would have been happy with the Revo too. I just prefered the constant pull of the LF over the crank on the Revo. But now that I think about it, I guess I paid a lot for just that one feature LOL.

But all in all, I'm very pleased with my machine. It's not quite perfect, but what machine is? All the things important, mounting system, clamps, accuracy and consistency, are there on this machine.

But be happy with your Revo, I'm sure it'll be a great machine :D
 
pdugas said:
"FREE String/Grip package (Retail Value - $175) consists of 1 each of the Live Wire XP 17g, TNT 17g, Infinity 15L, Duraspin 16g, Gamma Gut XL 16g, Synthetic 16g, 1 ProLite Grip, 1 Pro Wrap Overgrip (Package contents may vary slightly, as the manufacturer always includes their latest products).

The strings that I actually got were 12 sets of Gamma TNT Rx 17. All the same ???????? Even though the Retail is $15.95 each. I was hopeing for more variety.
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I got the variety pack, with six TNT Fat Core's, and onesie-twosies of Revelation, Challenger, Duraspin, and some clear/blue spiral nylon.

I thinK I would have rather had your string package!
 
iscottius said:
I appreciate the feedback, I like the features of the 910, but I am not sure I want to deal with the company. I have heard alot of bad things about maxline (victor) but I have also heard that thi is one of thier better machines.

right now I am leaning towards the Alpha Revo 4000, due to the whole package:

Price
Customer Service
String package

**recently Alpha has upgraded the 4K to include spring assisted clamps as well as a stronger turntable with stainles tracks for the clamps.

I like X-ST from Gamma, but it is 40.00 more expensive and the string that comes with machine is a sample of thier choice as oppossed to a string credit from Alpha of my choice.

The customer service from Gamma is excellent, and the feedback on the machine is also excellent. If they had one of the other two--same price as Alpha or better string package, I would probably buy it, but they are making it hard for me to buy thier machine.

Iscottius
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Sometimes Gamma has free shipping, which would be a plus. The Alpha should serve you well, plus you can upgrade it easier to electronic tensioner (Gamma needs an extra piece $45). Nice to hear Alpha upgraded the clamps; the older ones had a few issues. It would be great if all manufacturers switched to spring assisted and dropped the older version.
If you are like me, you probably won’t use the strings offered in the string package, and you might try asking for a credit. Every string package I dealt with, I wound up giving away. Maybe 1 or 2 packs were actually playable.
 
barry said:
Sometimes Gamma has free shipping, which would be a plus. The Alpha should serve you well, plus you can upgrade it easier to electronic tensioner (Gamma needs an extra piece $45). Nice to hear Alpha upgraded the clamps; the older ones had a few issues. It would be great if all manufacturers switched to spring assisted and dropped the older version.
If you are like me, you probably won’t use the strings offered in the string package, and you might try asking for a credit. Every string package I dealt with, I wound up giving away. Maybe 1 or 2 packs were actually playable.
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I agree with you on the string package, I will get two reels I can sell to make up some of the expense.

Iscottius
 
I ordered my Alpha Revo 4K today, $594.00 shipped with two reels of Alpha Gut 2000 string 16 guage. If I choose to sell the reels I will net $80.00 and be down to $514.00 shipped. I may keep the alpha Gut 2000 as I like the string anyway not sure yet.

The gamma with free shipping would be $629.00 with strings I wouldn't use or are less sellable.

Very happy with my decision, like alpha 4k and will get good customer support. Thank you all for your imput I will post after I recieve the item and update you.
 
John Zheng said:
Well, you said you've already ordered, but I was choosing between the Alpha and the LaserFibre myself (my third option was a Silent Partner electric).

I ended up getting the LaserFibre, and am happy with it. But I'm sure I would have been happy with the Revo too. I just prefered the constant pull of the LF over the crank on the Revo. But now that I think about it, I guess I paid a lot for just that one feature LOL.

But all in all, I'm very pleased with my machine. It's not quite perfect, but what machine is? All the things important, mounting system, clamps, accuracy and consistency, are there on this machine.

But be happy with your Revo, I'm sure it'll be a great machine :D
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John,
I really like the Laserfibre 200TT, It looks like an awesome machine, I would venture to say it is more precise and may string better (being a constant pull machine) but I couldn't swallow the 799 + shipping. It also looks like it would take more time to string with this machine versus the revo (spring assisted clamps & crank) and it is less expensive by $300. I am sure it will string better than my klippermate and faster.
 
iscottius said:
John,
I really like the Laserfibre 200TT, It looks like an awesome machine, I would venture to say it is more precise and may string better (being a constant pull machine) but I couldn't swallow the 799 + shipping. It also looks like it would take more time to string with this machine versus the revo (spring assisted clamps & crank) and it is less expensive by $300. I am sure it will string better than my klippermate and faster.
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They sell various versions of the machine. The one with flying clamps is $450ish. The minimum config with fixed clamps is about $600. $799 would be a fixed clamp one with the tension arm stop as well as turntable lock.

I picked a configuration without the turntable lock, saved a few bucks, around $750 for mine, don't remember exact number.

But I agree, tough choice between $450 with flying clamps, or $550 for revo with fixed clamps, or $600 for fixed clamps, but no tension jaw gizmo on LaserFibre. The lower configuration LF machines are incrementally uprgadeable to the higher configuration ones. But then the revo is upgradeable to a Wise electronic tension head, which the LF would not be. Well, the good news is you are picking between two winners, so you can't go wrong :D

In terms of either machine stringing "better" than your Klippermate, well I was upgrading from a Klippermate also, and I actually think if you do it right on the Klippermate, your string job will be just as good in the real world as with either of these machines. I just found the drop weight is now too aggravating on the Klippermate (where is in high school, I didn't mind it so much). And also, the mounting system on these machines should be better than the 2 point mounting system on the Klippermate, and reduce the chances for racquet damage. I've never fatally damaged a racquet on the Klippermate, although there has been some minor cosmetic damage. But that cosmetic damage was just as much due to Wilson's shoddy paint job as the Klippermate mounting system. On my LF, the sharp plastic actually damaged that shoddy paint job even more! On my new Maxplys, the LF mounting system has not done any damage, cosmetic or otherwise.
 
John Zheng said:
They sell various versions of the machine. The one with flying clamps is $450ish. The minimum config with fixed clamps is about $600. $799 would be a fixed clamp one with the tension arm stop as well as turntable lock.

I picked a configuration without the turntable lock, saved a few bucks, around $750 for mine, don't remember exact number.

But I agree, tough choice between $450 with flying clamps, or $550 for revo with fixed clamps, or $600 for fixed clamps, but no tension jaw gizmo on LaserFibre. The lower configuration LF machines are incrementally uprgadeable to the higher configuration ones. But then the revo is upgradeable to a Wise electronic tension head, which the LF would not be. Well, the good news is you are picking between two winners, so you can't go wrong :D

In terms of either machine stringing "better" than your Klippermate, well I was upgrading from a Klippermate also, and I actually think if you do it right on the Klippermate, your string job will be just as good in the real world as with either of these machines. I just found the drop weight is now too aggravating on the Klippermate (where is in high school, I didn't mind it so much). And also, the mounting system on these machines should be better than the 2 point mounting system on the Klippermate, and reduce the chances for racquet damage. I've never fatally damaged a racquet on the Klippermate, although there has been some minor cosmetic damage. But that cosmetic damage was just as much due to Wilson's shoddy paint job as the Klippermate mounting system. On my LF, the sharp plastic actually damaged that shoddy paint job even more! On my new Maxplys, the LF mounting system has not done any damage, cosmetic or otherwise.
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I also got excellent string jobs out of my klippermate, the only issues were speed, cosmetic damages (center post screws & flying clamps tight to frame) and the last main or cross with he drawback of the flying clamp was extremely difficult to maintain tension especially with poly's, not really a big deal cuz you never hit the ball on the last main or cross but never the less would like to resolve
 
the flying clamp system on the gamma is composite as opposed to steel, so they will cause less cosmetic damages, but may also have trouble with slippage. there will be drawback on the last cross & main, which is what drove me crazy with floating clamps
 
got my alpha revo 4k today, everything was shipped and delivered in excellent condition, strung 3 racquets today, machine works flawlessly. string looks good too.

the machine has been upgraded if you haven't seen the new version--spring assisted base clamps, heavy weight turntable with stainless tracks for base clamps, machine is first rate.

iscottius
 
Excellent!!! I believe my Eagnas combo 910 is a clone of your Revo 4000... except with a floor stand.

I've seen pictures of your model but don't know why their own Alpha website doesn't show it.
 
iscottius how often do you restring and how many people do u usually string for? i ask because im interested in a revo but i'm not sure if i string enough to justify the purchase
 
ShooterMcMarco said:
iscottius how often do you restring and how many people do u usually string for? i ask because im interested in a revo but i'm not sure if i string enough to justify the purchase
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I string about 5 racquets a week, I have 4 racquets and I string for a few 3-5 friends. I charge my friends $20.00 for stringing (i supply string). I only do a couple of friends racquets per week. (don't want to do more..). I looked at my upgrade from the klippermate as a way for me to save time and with the limited use it is a lifetime purchase. The Revo 4K is an awesome machine that had all the features I felt were important:

Crank
Spring Assisted Clamps
six point mounting
solid turntable etc.

this allows me to string a racquet in half the time of the Kmate. I will net some money back from the dtring jobs, but I bought it for speed & convience. Very happy with the machine and Alpha as a company.
 
ShooterMcMarco said:
between the two, which one did you feel was easier to learn on?
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The alpha will be easier to learn on, because it is easier to string on, the lock out tension feature takes out any of the guess work on tension.

Iscottius
 
iscottius said:
1. Alpha Revo 4000
2. Gamma x-st
3. Laserfibre 200 tt
4. eagnas combo 910

I have read some of the reviews, they are all close enough in price so it is not an issue. I am looking for a machine for home stringing use 5-10 racquets a week. I am looking for the machine that is easiest to use, fast, produces a high quality string job and will last the longest.
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in this order,

#1 Gamma
#2 Alpha (close second)
#3 Laserfibre
#4 Eagnas, (just sucks)- i was gonna buy theirs just cuz it was cheap but since im near the warehouse, i checked it out, it is crappy material and bad service, at first they wouldnt let me see a machine unless i was gonna buy it, thats just horrible
 
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