Help me decide: ProStaff 97s , SixOne 95 , Blade , or Speed Pro

seanfro

New User
I'm hoping for some clarity on which racket I should choose or if I should switch at all. At this point, I feel like nothing I have tried completely fits me. I'll give you guys some background in a bit and I'll also list the pro's and con's I've experience of each racket below.

I've hit with most of these frames (I'm still waiting for the 97s demo to come in) and I haven't ruled out the Prince Textreme 95, though I need to give that one a good hit.

Background: I'm 6'4" and 185. I am a solid 4.5 and play a couple times a week singles and doubles. I rarely play a tournament these days since I spend weekends with my family (wife and toddler). I'm 30 years old. 15 years ago I used a Head Pro Tour 280 customized for about 10 years. I had to have back surgery and re-entered my tennis life around 2012 using lighter rackets like the Head LM Radical MP. My Pro Tours are too flexy and demanding now for my taste.

I've landed on using a Head Speed Pro (Graphene still, no XT). I chose it after demoing tons of rackets, and feel a bit ruined from it's forgiveness. I'll launch into the rackets I've considered so you can get a sense of what I've used. You'll see that I almost exclusively like 18 main rackets. I love the control and feel of an 18 main with a thinner gauge string. More open patterns feel too lively usually.

My problem is that I feel like I could adjust to most of these frames. Some would challenge my game, but I am improving slowly and feel like I could grow into them. I want to hit a more penetrating shot without sacrificing control and forgiveness.

+Head Graphene Speed Pro: 340 grams strung with overgrip. a little weight in the handle. 1.14mm co-poly 57 lbs on crank
Pros - super forgiving, great spin potential, maneuverable, easy power, decent feel
Cons - a touch stiff, launch angle control and weight of shot are missing. I most feel this against good defensive players in singles when I try to put away a short ball. I have trouble flattening it out enough or hitting penetrating spin to get behind them.

+Wilson ProStaff 97s: excited to demo
I will update once I demo this one with some weight in the handle.

+Wilson Six One 95 18x20: i almost switched to this
Pros - control, launch angle control, directional control, controllable power, good feel
Cons - a little demanding (I think I could adjust over time), slightly small head for my taste, leaves me wishing it was a tad more forgiving

+Wilson Six One 95s 18x16: i need to try again with some more weight
Pros - spin, feel, maneuverable enough
Cons - a touch erratic when it comes to launch angle and directional control

+Wilson Blade 18x20:
Pros - good feel and control, enough spin, predictable launch angle
Cons - a tad soft, feel likes it should offer a more forgiving sweet spot

+Wilson Blade 18x16:
Pros - great spin
Cons - a bit tinnier feel, I would need to try again with more weight to see if stability and sweet spot improve, launch angle a little erratic

+Prince Textreme Tour 95:
also hoping to demo soon with some weight

I've demoed several rackets that I would not consider:
-Wilson Blade 104 - I liked this one a lot. It felt very similar to my Head Speed Pro. Too similar
-Wilson 97RF and 97 both felt a little off to me, can't explain it. RF was too demanding
-Technifibre 305 - sweet spot felt too small and didn't love the feel
-Babolat APD - another frame I could switch to, just too stiff and didn't like upper hoop feel
-Babolat Pure Drive - yuck. no control with this racket somehow
-Babolat Pure Strik 18x20 - felt a little sluggish and muted
-Babolat Pure Control Tour - too sluggish through the air
-Babolat Pure Control 95 - didn't care for it
-Yonex Ai 98 - didn't like the feel
-Yonex VCore Tour 330 - didn't like feel
-Head Graphene Radical - too much power
-Head Graphene Prestige 18x20 - too muted and too sluggish
-Head Graphene Prestige Pro - balance too even and already too heavy to customize for me
-Dunlop iDapt 98 - too muted and stiff
-Dunlop F3.0 Tour - Cheap and hollow feeling

If you've read this far, God bless you.

Sean
 

n8dawg6

Legend
There's not much left. Prince's new 100P is gonna be too light for you unless you want to add lead (can't imagine it would solve any power issues). I would try the Extreme Pro. The Extremes are really surprisingly good frames if you can get past the frying pan head shape and thick beam. You will not have an issue with put away power ...

Someone will probably suggest you try a custom Angell, too.
 

Jonboy

Rookie
I bought the XT Speed pro and sold inside of a fortnight. I had it restrung 3 times. The only thing it does well is serve and thats due to the mass in the handle. Avoid.
97's seems a very popular choice.
Babs either APD or PD are an acquired taste, to stiff for me.
I bought the Pure Strike 16x19. Sweetspot is quite small, the 18x20's variant is tiny.
I also used a Blade 18x20 for a longtime. Great stick and solid as a rock. A bit cumbersome at the net though and needs early prep.
Also tried the Blade S but too light and string pattern too open.
Just bought the new 16x19 Blade, so I'd add that to your list.
 
I'm confused. You said that the Pro Tour 280 was becoming too demanding for you, then you seem to adore the Wilson Six.One's, which are every bit as demanding, and then you say the Wilson Pro Staff RF97 is too demanding.

Those racquets are all in the same "demanding" category.
 

racket king

Banned
I'm confused. You said that the Pro Tour 280 was becoming too demanding for you, then you seem to adore the Wilson Six.One's, which are every bit as demanding, and then you say the Wilson Pro Staff RF97 is too demanding.

Those racquets are all in the same "demanding" category.

No they're not. You might find them the same and consider them all 'demanding' but not everyone does. The 6.1 for example is an easier swing than the log like RF97. There also seem to be more variances with the 6.1s as well as different iterations (as well as two patterns to choose from), whereas the RF97 is just log like, period.
 
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Not they're not. You might find them the same and consider them all 'demanding' but not everyone does. The 6.1 for example is an easier swing than the log like RF97. There also seem to be more variances with the 6.1s as well as difference iterations (as well as two patterns to choose from), whereas the RF97 is just log like, period.

I grew up with a weighted 6.0 85 and PC600, and now a 2014 PS90, RF97 is not a log. It's like swinging a badminton racquet, I don't get what people are crying about that racquet. (It sucks and has no feel, but it's not demanding by any means)
 

seanfro

New User
I'm confused. You said that the Pro Tour 280 was becoming too demanding for you, then you seem to adore the Wilson Six.One's, which are every bit as demanding, and then you say the Wilson Pro Staff RF97 is too demanding.

Those racquets are all in the same "demanding" category.

My Pro Tour 280's were all matched and they seem to have too much weight overall. They also have 1/4 inch more length than my other frames. I recently cut one a little shorter and might try it, but I feel about it like I do the new prestiges. They seem solid but a little sluggish. I guess I prefer a slightly more polarized weight now with a little less weight in the head.
 

seanfro

New User
There's not much left. Prince's new 100P is gonna be too light for you unless you want to add lead (can't imagine it would solve any power issues). I would try the Extreme Pro. The Extremes are really surprisingly good frames if you can get past the frying pan head shape and thick beam. You will not have an issue with put away power ...

Someone will probably suggest you try a custom Angell, too.

I hit with the 100P on the wall today and was mostly disappointed. I know this isn't a fair test, but I'm concerned it will have too much power if I add enough weight to make it stable.
 
My Pro Tour 280's were all matched and they seem to have too much weight overall. They also have 1/4 inch more length than my other frames. I recently cut one a little shorter and might try it, but I feel about it like I do the new prestiges. They seem solid but a little sluggish. I guess I prefer a slightly more polarized weight now with a little less weight in the head.

You do realize those Six.One frames have an extra ounce on them compared to the Pro Tour 280, right? That's why I think you're all over the place, even though all of these racquets are in the same category more or less.
 
I have both the 6.1 and RF97. My 6.1 is 12.4 oz with a swing weight of 320 (strung) and my RF97 is 12.4 oz with a swing weight of 327. The 6.1 is 10pts headlight and RF97 is 9pts. They swing similar given the specs and you get used to the weight. My RF97 may be under the average spec but I find them both to swing nice.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
I grew up with a weighted 6.0 85 and PC600, and now a 2014 PS90, RF97 is not a log. It's like swinging a badminton racquet, I don't get what people are crying about that racquet. (It sucks and has no feel, but it's not demanding by any means)

Those words are worthless w/o a vid to back it up.
 
OP, this may take a little bit of work, since these frames are no longer in production. But would you be open to trying out some Dunlop 200g's? Those are very good frames. And it's not a huge departure from your Pro Tour 280's.
 

seanfro

New User
You do realize those Six.One frames have an extra ounce on them compared to the Pro Tour 280, right? That's why I think you're all over the place, even though all of these racquets are in the same category more or less.

I don't have a diagnostics machine, but I'm guessing the swingweights on my 280s are different. Besides, I am currently using a 340 gram racket and find the PT280s too flexy.

When I say something is too demanding or sluggish, it is how the racket comes around and through the ball.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
I have videos here, search for them and then try a little bit of stfu boy.

Maybe you are one of the few people on this planet that can swing the RF97A as fast as a badminton frame, with a flick of the hand. I have no intention on searching your vids. But if you are, your tennis skills are only second to your condescence towards others.

Seems you need to apply some of that stfu to yourself.
 
Maybe you are one of the few people on this planet that can swing the RF97A as fast as a badminton frame, with a flick of the hand. I have no intention on searching your vids. But if you are, your tennis skills are only second to your condescence towards others.

Seems you need to apply some of that stfu to yourself.

I'm not the one who questioned me boy. Don't be dishing when you can't take it.
 
This is all I could find, and I do realize it's from 2011. That being said, I see a 4.0-4.5'er, with 0% stfu factor ...

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/index.php?threads/videos-of-me-hitting-around-and-some-serves.401672/

If you don't want to be called out, make less insane claims or have the game to back it up.
If you choose not to, acknowledge you will come accross as a clown.

Why don't you look for some from my BLX90/6.0 85 thread boy, and yeah. Let me know when you learn something from it. Got to a 4.5 semifinals tournament (oh man, I wish I could have won that tournament!), and earned the respect of a 5.0 in a tournament. Just saying.

Anyways, stop derailing this thread. If you got a problem with me, come at me. You're not helping OP (probably talk more than you can play anyways). At least I'm making suggestions, you've done what so far?
 
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smalahove

Hall of Fame
Lol. I don't have a problem with you, but your delusional comparisons.

But you're right on one thing, let's focus on the OT.

OP; the 6.1 95's are great playing and powerful frames, esp. the 16x18 version which is very spin friendly. The S version might look similar, but is nowhere near as powerful even leaded up. Ime, the 6.1 95 are easier to wield than the RF97A.

My racket of choice at the moment is the TT95, which is a great control racket with access to decent plow. I'm thinking of changing to leather grip and adding leaf under the bumperguard to beef it up.
 
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Have you thought about trying anything from the Volkl line?

You may want to try out the Super G V1 Pro and/or the Super G 10 (325g). I'd recommend to try the Super G 10 (325g) as I've hit with that, and it may fill in some spots that you're looking for and can't find. Mainly more forgiveness, a little stiffer, yet you don't want it to be a trampoline or ruin your arm.
 

seanfro

New User
Have you thought about trying anything from the Volkl line?

You may want to try out the Super G V1 Pro and/or the Super G 10 (325g). I'd recommend to try the Super G 10 (325g) as I've hit with that, and it may fill in some spots that you're looking for and can't find. Mainly more forgiveness, a little stiffer, yet you don't want it to be a trampoline or ruin your arm.

Thank you for the suggestion. The only Volkl frame I've hit with use the V1 Pro Classic. I actually really liked it for the beam thickness and weight. I could switch to it with some customizing, though it didn't floor me.

Thanks again!
 

seanfro

New User
Lol. I don't have a problem with you, but your delusional comparisons.

But you're right on one thing, let's focus on the OT.

OP; the 6.1 95's are great playing and powerful frames, esp. the 16x18 version which is very spin friendly. The S version might look similar, but is nowhere near as powerful even leaded up. Ime, the 6.1 95 are easier to wield than the RF97A.

My racket of choice at the moment is the TT95, which is a great control racket with access to decent plow. I'm thinking of changing to leather grip and adding leaf under the bumperguard to beef it up.

Will you describe the TT95 to me? Do you know the current weight?
 

Pleb123

Semi-Pro
I haven't tried any Pacific frames, but I'm curious. I wielded a couple Fischer MPs back in high school I liked.

What do you like about the Pacific frames?
The XTour Pro 97 is my first Pacific frame. I have a Fischer Elliptic Comp which I have never gelled with. The XTour Pro has ample power but is not overpowered. I am using a gut/poly hybrid with lead at 3 and 9 and a little tail weighting. It is a very solid and forgiving racquet, which I understand to be a trait shared by many of the Pacific frames. It is quite stiff though.
 

smalahove

Hall of Fame
Will you describe the TT95 to me? Do you know the current weight?

320g unstrung. 337g strung w/OG and dampener. Ca 31 cm balance point.

The key features of the TT95 are:
  • Fast feel: it feels lighter and swings faster than the specs would indicate
  • Crisp yet comfortable: it has a crisp feel, however it is very different to f.inst. the direct, crisp feel of a tweener strung tight (extreme pro). Afaict, that has to be the textreme factor, which is a unique feel.
  • Control: the crispness, combined with the relatively tight 16x19 pattern, gives an almost 18x20 type of control, which gives me great control on bh slices f.inst.
The only drawback is the the slightly above average power and plow the racket provides. Otoh, all Prince frames I've owned or tried (big Prince fan) have been slightly anemic, esp. when compared to similar frames from other mfcs.
 
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