travlerajm
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Are you saying usta league matches and usta tourneys aren’t real?but its not a real match if you don't play out the deuces
Help me solve my MEP problem. Strategy Guidance Needed
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MGArchitect
Rookie
Go with Fast 4 next time!
Dragy
Legend
Some rallies were crazy fun. And @travlerajm you better not sell your FH short, it’s good enough. You hit a number of confident winners with it.
Overall you played well and disciplined. Maybe would be better if you just developed points faster - again, possessed enough tools. Hit firmer and get to net sooner, for good or bad (but definitely less wear on your body).
Also the dropshot+pass plays were good changeup, and would be even better, more opportunities with more pressure you could put on him.
@GSG tenacious as always, liked the jumping backhand, an ace, and using dropshots as trav really not a young rabbit to chase them
Overall you played well and disciplined. Maybe would be better if you just developed points faster - again, possessed enough tools. Hit firmer and get to net sooner, for good or bad (but definitely less wear on your body).
Also the dropshot+pass plays were good changeup, and would be even better, more opportunities with more pressure you could put on him.
@GSG tenacious as always, liked the jumping backhand, an ace, and using dropshots as trav really not a young rabbit to chase them
onehandbh
G.O.A.T.
It is like yin yang.Some rallies were crazy fun. And @travlerajm you better not sell your FH short, it’s good enough. You hit a number of confident winners with it.
Overall you played well and disciplined. Maybe would be better if you just developed points faster - again, possessed enough tools. Hit firmer and get to net sooner, for good or bad (but definitely less wear on your body).
Also the dropshot+pass plays were good changeup, and would be even better, more opportunities with more pressure you could put on him.
@GSG tenacious as always, liked the jumping backhand, an ace, and using dropshots as trav really not a young rabbit to chase them
Using pressureless balls in a match reduces the pressure in the match.
travlerajm
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They didn’t play like most pressureless balls (which I don’t like much because they don’t bend much in the air). I’d say they played more like pressurized balls do in slightly cooler conditions.
The mangy fuzz slowed them down a lot, and the net end result (in my opinion) was that the points ended up being longer on average.
LeastExhaustingPlayer
Professional
Trav's tactics gave him a big boost but in the end MEP's superior fitness was the difference.
It's not easy to play at >MEP level for 2 sets of singles. If you do, you really earned that victory.
It's not easy to play at >MEP level for 2 sets of singles. If you do, you really earned that victory.
J011yroger
Talk Tennis Guru
I said it once, I'll say it again. Hit the ball, go to the net!
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ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
Edit: After this year … I would kill for a low bouncing pressure-less tennis ball
This was not my experience (and hours/years of testing
) … I would have died without a cap in the land of high heat and humidity. The trick is a lightweight wick-away cap like link below. Keeps sun off your face for much of those 2-3 hour matches, the damp brim of the hat less than bandana coverage would be, and damp inside of hat better than 90-100 degrees on top of bare head. Not to mention … good luck with keeping that sunblock on forehead from dripping in eyes.I will also advocate for cap for another reason … had my first basal cell carcinoma removed this year (calf). I was good about using sun block … but all our tennis hours (and golf in my case) can catch up with us. I’m still pretty
after that MOHS chunk cut out of my calf … but face would be a bridge too far.adidas Men's Core Superlite 2 Hat | Tennis Warehouse
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I hope fast 4 means finishing the vast majority of points within 4 shots and winning a majority of them (like pros and folks with advanced strokes do).
imo, got to develop weapons which allows the points to be played out quickly for the sake of avoiding exhaustion and cramps in the second half of matches.
Didn't GSG have regular balls? I always keep a fresh can in my bag, but I always wait for the other person to volunteer so I can reluctantly not open mine.
And get lobbed or passed by GSG?
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
I’m sure GSG did have fresh balls. I made a trip to Walgreen’s prior to the match to find balls, but the mysterious franklins were all that they had on the shelf.
They were sold in the same pressurizable plastic cans as pressurized balls. I think this is misleading marketing, and an opportunity for a class action lawsuit against Walgreen’s.
optic yellow
Legend
well im not not saying that
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
This one of those things that sounds great in theory, but is extremely difficult to execute in a way that actually improves your level.
I did have regular balls and was prepared to open, but I was beaten to the punch. I should have known something was off when the balls did not have numbers on them. They felt strange to hit but I resolved to not let it consciously bother me.
Seniors like @ByeByePoly rely on Walgreens for their Medicare prescriptions. Do not endanger these Pickleball players.
No it means first to win 4 games
travlerajm
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It seems you can still get a good workout with green dot balls. The swingvision stats say that GSG and I ran 0.96 and 0.93 miles each.
ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
Thanks for your concern. Actually Walgreens and Walmart … sometimes GoodRx/cash at Walmart is cheaper than using our “special” healthcare system. If you think pball scoring is complex … just wait until you enter the Medicare/SS signup matrix. Oh wait … you are young enough none of that will exist when you get there … never mind … my bad.
Who has ever heard of buying tennis balls at Walgreens? That’s just embarrassing … and at such nice courts.
I buy a case of balls from TW but hardly use any because I steal balls after pickup doubles and also never offer to open a new can.
ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
We like you despite these character flaws. I actually bought my first pballs … Franklin X-40. Lifetime provides balls for open play … but good to have a new ball in the bag just in case.
I probably have half a case of Pro Penn Marathon left ... real tennis balls. I realize that comment doesn’t sting as much after just mentioning pballs purchase. I will let myself out.
ByeByePoly
G.O.A.T.
I watched most of first set. If I paused video or tried to backup it got pissy demanding an email … not happening. I have to say you looked dressed and ready … for pickleball.
btw … those choppers won’t work in pickleball with descending blow … think low to high but with open face … it’s very weird. I will be there for you when it’s time.
optic yellow
Legend
That is why people don't want to play it.
I'm a proponent of fail fast principle. Imo, long term success is better served by moving on quickly than battling a losing cause. Not tanking intentionally, but increasing the aggression posture. Similar to investing in growth stocks vs bonds.
After our "hitting" session, I said you will win 2 & 2 against mep and you came close in the first set at least.( I know you expressed concerns around potential leg injury and didn't agree with my estimate). I think the old ball and long rallies gave the advantage back.
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MGArchitect
Rookie
- The first to four games wins the set
- No-ad scoring is used
- Service lets are played
- First-to-five-point tiebreakers apply at 3 games all
ByeByePoly
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travlerajm
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There are different types of growth stocks, and there are different ways to invest in your tennis level development as an adult.
Trying to hone your aggressive strokes is one way. It’s by far the most common way.
Trying to hone your ability to play within yourself and better optimize your strategy to increase win probability with every stroke is another way. It’s the way that GSG has used to outpace the rate of improvement of 99.9% of adult rec players. Let that sink in.
When is the right time to question that logic? What if the player is going to run out of steam after N number of such shots.
Is it possible that aggressive mode could result in 6-4 instead of 6-2 in less number of shots and deuce games? The next set will start sooner and with more gas in the tank.
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
My strategy over the first set was not so terrible. The next 4 games, during which I was in the process of wearing down and had lost my advantage, was when I might have gotten a lot closer to the finish line had I adopted more aggressive get-to-net tactics (I was going in to net less because I didn’t trust my game as much with less fresh legs). Those 4 games lasted a really long time, involved a lot of running, and depleted most of my available energy, and I came out of that stretch with only a 2-2 split to show for it.
Relief! Glad it's not first to lose 4 games.
chazz
Rookie
Only thing I'd really change is 3. Service lets shouldn't be played imo.
Dragy
Legend
So neither of you ran a mile after opening that can
Dragy
Legend
If “within your ability” includes staying fresh as Ocean breeze 2 hours in, absolutely!
travlerajm
Talk Tennis Guru
Heat Stress Acclimatization | NIOSH | CDC
Acclimatization is the beneficial physiological adaptations that occur during repeated exposure to a hot environment.
www.cdc.gov
Purestriker
Legend
One should never want to play MEP outdoors in Atlanta in the summer heat.Heat Stress Acclimatization | NIOSH | CDC
Acclimatization is the beneficial physiological adaptations that occur during repeated exposure to a hot environment.
heninfan99
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To travel to Georgia to play MEP and use these balls is just a crime against humanity
This video was recorded in HEVC format and will not play in Edge. I had to switch to Chrome.
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I watched only for 10 minutes, but it seems your injuries have made you a ghost of the person you were before. You looked like a stiff robot on prosthetics - a far cry from the guy who used to run around the court at dangerous speeds. On both forehand and backhand, you seem to have developed a phobia for swinging freely, maybe due to the braces.
I keep 2 balls and an extra paddle in my Pickleball case. I don't know if they outdoors or indoors balls.
user92626
G.O.A.T.
user92626
G.O.A.T.
yeah keep them paddles in your case for safe. Lately I saw on news that it's dangerous and lethal to play pickleball for 2 hours.
ratherlosethanpush
Rookie
Speaking as someone who can't play singles because of medical conditions ahead of fitness issues which admittedly would also stop me, I'd still have to disagree.
I think at that stage it's either doubles (my choice) or maybe another sport like ping pong, golf or the dreaded pickleball.
I'd much rather leave a sport alone than dumb it down because of the failings of participants. No ad, no 3rd / 5th set and dog balls are all no no's for me.
Amen. I'm willing to make exceptions for a third set TB when circumstances dictate (primarily time constraints) but playing no ad is too much of a modification for my tastes.
Dog balls were a lesson learned so I'll leave it at that.
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
So what was the final score of the other sets?
2-6, 6-3, 10-2 (TB)
heninfan99
Talk Tennis Guru
It looked like he was averaging 50mph on his backhand (until 3/4th of the match). There's no way you should have trav's BH and FH in the same sentence.
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