Help with workout schedule

crash

Rookie
I'm trying to rebuild my workout schedule and I'd be grateful for your opinions.

For the last year I've worked a good deal on my cardio, started with aerobic training (30 min runs) for a couple months then moved on to HIIT and cardio (5 to 7 times a week) for the last 7-8 months.

Concerning strength training, I was doing only bodyweight exercises (push-ups, crunches/sit-ups, squats, lunges and some plyo jumps 3-4 times a week) until the last two months were I moved to free-weight exercises at the gym. I've done a full-body workouts three times a week which consisted of the following exercices.

Upper body: Bench press, Overhead press, pec flies, triceps ext, biceps curls and shoulder raises.
Lower body: Squats, split single-leg squats, lunges and leg press (in my new schedule I'll eliminate the leg press and I'd add deadlifts).
Core: medicine ball exercises (twists, sit-ups, crunches) and crunches on stab ball.

For the upper body and legs exercises, I do 3 sets of 8 reps, except for bench and squats where I do 4 sets. Core exercises, I do 2 or 3 sets of about 20.

Here is my "new" schedule:

Monday: Lower body+Core, Cardio
Tuesday: Upper body, HIIT/Sprints
Wednesday: Off
Thursday: Lower body+Core, HIIT, Cardio
Friday: Upper body, Cardio
Saturday: HIIT/Sprints
Sunday: Upper body, HIIT

Cardio: at least 20 min of aerobic workout.
HIIT: intervals of sprint/jog, I often do 30sec/30sec 9-10 times but I'd try to vary a little more.
Sprints: Different distances (25, 50 and100m) with good recovery in between.

My main goals are to get faster, stronger and add a little muscle mass while maintaining a good cardio level.

Here are some of my concerns:
-Split or Full-Body workouts ?
I was tempted to switch to split workouts in order to reduce the time required by the full-body workout. I don't mind going to the gym 4-5 times a week instead of 3. However, that may reduce the frequency of each workout (see next question).

-Frequency of strength workouts ?
In my new schedule, the number of leg workouts is reduced from 2 to 3 (since HIIT/Sprints are quite taxing on the legs) and the number of upper body workout is kept at 3.

-Frequency of HIIT/Cardio/Sprints ?
How many times per week should I do them (I know I probably do too much, but I like it...)

-Combine HIIT/Sprints with legs strength training ?
Are those runs gonna limit my strength gains in the legs ? How is it best to schedule them ?

-HIIT vs Sprint with full recovery ?
Should I do both or HIIT only is sufficient ?

-HIIT, Cardio and Sprints before or after weight training ?
When I was doing my full-body workouts I was doing them before, starting the strength training with the upper body then moving to the lower body. Now I was thinking of doing them after the strength when working the legs to have maximum energy for lifting.

I guess this sums it up. Thanks to those who took the time to read all that, I'm waiting for your input.
 

Kobble

Hall of Fame
If you are working hard and getting better and better, it isn't too much. Seriously, someone would need to write a book to answer all your questions. Once, again, it may or may not be the case, but it sounds like your reasoning is limited by some Muscle and Fitness pages. These magazines are crap; absolute crap.

-Split or Full-Body workouts ?
I was tempted to switch to split workouts in order to reduce the time required by the full-body workout. I don't mind going to the gym 4-5 times a week instead of 3. However, that may reduce the frequency of each workout (see next question).

I like split, others like full body for beginners. I would go with split.

-Frequency of strength workouts ?
In my new schedule, the number of leg workouts is reduced from 2 to 3 (since HIIT/Sprints are quite taxing on the legs) and the number of upper body workout is kept at 3.

If you are progressing at both your running and lifting, you are doing something right. If you feel fresh but aren't progressing, you are doing to little work. If you feel beat up and you aren't progressing, you are doing to much. Frequency doesn't matter as much as the amount of work you do in a given time frame.

-Frequency of HIIT/Cardio/Sprints ?
How many times per week should I do them (I know I probably do too much, but I like it...)

You can always start with few and add more until you find a level of output that is producing results for you.
-Combine HIIT/Sprints with legs strength training ?
Are those runs gonna limit my strength gains in the legs ? How is it best to schedule them ?

Yes. From everything I know, this is what sprinters do. Most sprinters are strong and buff, so I wouldn't worry about not being strong enough.
-HIIT vs Sprint with full recovery ?
Should I do both or HIIT only is sufficient ? I thought hit was sprint

-HIIT, Cardio and Sprints before or after weight training ?
When I was doing my full-body workouts I was doing them before, starting the strength training with the upper body then moving to the lower body. Now I was thinking of doing them after the strength when working the legs to have maximum energy for lifting.

After. Endurance work after strength work.
 
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crash

Rookie
Thank you for your insightful reply.

Concerning your question:
-HIIT vs Sprint with full recovery ?
Should I do both or HIIT only is sufficient ? I thought hit was sprint

Yes HIIT are sprints, but with very short rest (jog) periods. I was wondering if doing sprints with much longer rest periods was also pertinent.
 

pijan

New User
Split or Full-Body workouts ?
Depends. If u're losing weight, better to do full body, but as for you i think it's best to go with split

-Frequency of strength workouts ?
I think u're doing too much with your upper body.u need 3 days rest for your upper body muscle to recover

-Frequency of HIIT/Cardio/Sprints ?
3-4 times per week is the most effective

-Combine HIIT/Sprints with legs strength training ?
Yes. that's the best but make sure u lift weight first then only u do your HIIT

-HIIT vs Sprint with full recovery ?
By sprint do you mean Tabata HIIT?


-HIIT, Cardio and Sprints before or after weight training ?
After

Try this :
Monday :Chest and triceps , then cardio
Tuesday: Lower body, then HIIT
Wednesday : Back and biceps , then cardio
Thursday : Lower body, then HIIT
Friday : Chest and triceps , then cardio
Saturday : Lower body, then HIIT
Sunday : Back and biceps , then cardio
 

pijan

New User
Chest n Tri :
Bench Press
Dips
Triceps extention
Fly

Back n Bi:
Bent over row
Chip up
Upright Row
Curl

Lower :
Squat
Deadlift
Weighted Crunches
Calf Raise

Do 3 sets of 80% of 1RM. drop the weight and do a drop set until failure
 

crash

Rookie
Thank you for your reply.

I think u're doing too much with your upper body.u need 3 days rest for your upper body muscle to recover

Try this :
Monday :Chest and triceps , then cardio
Tuesday: Lower body, then HIIT
Wednesday : Back and biceps , then cardio
Thursday : Lower body, then HIIT
Friday : Chest and triceps , then cardio
Saturday : Lower body, then HIIT
Sunday : Back and biceps , then cardio

So you think I need more rest for upper body than lower body ? I was thinking the opposite that's why I put two lower body and three upper body in my schedule.

By sprint do you mean Tabata HIIT?

By sprint I mean short distances (25, 50 and 100 m) with longer recovery periods than HIIT.
 

pijan

New User
i read somewhere that bigger muscle like quads n hams required lesser rest period compared to smaller ones.so maybe around 2 days for legs n 3 days for upper body. maybe more experience posters can confirm this.

what's the difference between your normal HIIT n sprinting?
 

crash

Rookie
what's the difference between your normal HIIT n sprinting?

Normal HIIT : Alternating sprints with short jogging periods, like 30s sprint/30 s jog, or 20s sprint/10s jog.

"Sprinting" : Sprints followed by longer recovery periods, like 100m sprint/2 minutes recovery
 
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