Here are my BORIS BECKER collection

jetlee2k

Banned
Here are a few pictures of my Boris Becker collection.. I hope you guys like it..

2 Pristine Puma G. Vilas Power.. I did not have a chance to hit with these yet so I have no comment.. I think the plastic bar hold me back a little bit.. I did not want to crack it up. These are very hard to find one in good condition.. I have a few beat up ones..



Some mint Puma Boris Becker Winner. Nice rackets.. great on volley, ground strokes. It's hefty with nice flex.. Great great feel. Yes, it's over 20year old racket but hard to beat it with today racket line up..



A few mint and new Puma Boris Becker Super.. Very nice racket.. hefty, flex with great feel.. 16x19 pattern

 

jetlee2k

Banned
One brand new Puma Boris Becker PRO.. This is a very rare one hard to find.. it's 16x19 pattern. I was told this is the actual racket that Boris play in the old days..



Two brand new Estusa Provantech 1990 Champion Limited edition.. Look at the Stabilizer (PWS) build in, Bumper Guard with a 18x20 pattern.. Very very nice racket.. hefty, lots of control and feel.. The hoop is more stable than the puma



 
Awesome
those rackets are so cool ^_^
but puma made rackets before?
and i thought boris becker was with volkl because of his own collection
you should ge tthe boris becker special edition to end the collection
 

jetlee2k

Banned
Here is the World Champion 1995 in the wooden box case



This is a nice design racket



and the PUMA Davis CUP



man.. I am so late right now got to run..
 

jetlee2k

Banned
Here are a few brand new Estusa.. These are also great player racket but it need some lead @3,9 to make it more stable at the head..

 

jetlee2k

Banned
out of all the frames which one do you like the most? how do you think they compare the the kps88?
I play with a modified KPS88 and it's much heavier.. Puma Winner, Super to me have the identical feel with lots of plow thru but a little lite. I added some lead @3,9 to make the hoop more stable. It's hard to pick the BEST out of puma/estusa line b/c they have very similar feel BUT without any modification, I would say the Provantech ones are probably the best. So stable, hefty with lots of control b/c of 18x20 pattern.. I felt these Puma/Estusa rackets are much more feel and easier to play with than the KPS88 but it's slower.. You got to adjust to the Puma/Estusa egg shape though.. The sweet spot near by the throat so if you hit it, it feels really sweet.. If I have choice, I would rather play with the Puma b/c of its feel but these are hard to find so I'll stick with my KPS88 for now and use one of those Puma/Estusa to hit once awhile..
 

Alien

Hall of Fame
I used to play with the Puma read and blue... fantastic stick. Some years ago I moved and y pair of racquets disappeared, probably in the dustbin.

The Winner looked awesome, the gray had brilliant dots.

By chance, nowadays I use a Boris Becker Pro.
 

jetlee2k

Banned
I used to play with the Puma read and blue... fantastic stick. Some years ago I moved and y pair of racquets disappeared, probably in the dustbin.

The Winner looked awesome, the gray had brilliant dots.

By chance, nowadays I use a Boris Becker Pro.
I heard that the new Boris Becker Pro is lighter? with 98 square inch?? what do you think about the flex?? these old PUMA has great feel b/c it's flexi
 

db379

Hall of Fame
Hi guys,

I love these sticks. There's something about the head shape which just feels right to me. Never had a problem playing well with estusas, it feels like an extension of my hand.

I was curious to know if you could comment on the puma becker pro (red blue white). I never had a chance to hit with it, how does it comapre to the super or the estusa power beam pro? Is it basically a stiffer BB super?
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
Puma experts, I have a question.

If memory serves right, at least one of those sticks (Super, I believe) features adjustable length, correct?

If so, what kind of mechanism does it use to adjust its length, and wouldn't these built-in movable parts lead to pronounced frame vibration?

Many thanks in advance.
 

SliceServe

New User
Scotus,
Both the Winner and the Super had the "telescoping" handle system. Some other obscure models also had the feature. They came with a metal key that would fit into the screw located on the bottom of the butt cap. When I hit with them years ago...I never detected any vibration due to the adjustable length system.

jetlee2k,
I don't think boris ever used the plastic throat piece model...he was using the Lendl Adidas frame just prior to switching to the Puma. You should try and get the "G Vilas" cosmetic version of the Winner. This is the cosmetic he used when he won Wimbledon in 1985. It became the Winner after he took the Wimbledon title. See pic in the link: http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/89112658.jpg?v=1&c=IWSAsset&k=2&d=77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D0DB7DB5B7E1C60415159172059D67014393B046FBDC5E9D72&imgrefurl=http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/89112658/Bob-Thomas-Sports-Photography&usg=__FNXg1X-aUhlgDi0Le2r5pDd_CRY=&h=594&w=435&sz=38&hl=en&start=103&zoom=0&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=Vi8pH1FVo2aMEM:&tbnh=135&tbnw=99&prev=/images?q=boris+becker+1985+wimbledon&start=100&um=1&hl=en&sa=N&ndsp=20&tbs=isch:1 The Winner was more flexible and heavier (close to 12.8 oz) than the Red/Blue Super which was a 50% Fiberglass / 50% High Modulus Graphite blend.
 
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scotus

G.O.A.T.
Scotus,
Both the Winner and the Super had the "telescoping" handle system. Some other obscure models also had the feature. They came with a metal key that would fit into the screw located on the bottom of the butt cap. When I hit with them years ago...I never detected any vibration due to the adjustable length system.
Thanks, SliceServe.

One more question: When you turn the screw in the buttcap area, it would change the frame length from just above the handle, correct?
 

SliceServe

New User
Scotus,
Visually it would appear that the racquet would get longer above the racquet handle...when actually the frame and handle are moving in opposite directions as the screw was turned counterclock wise. The reverse effect when the screw was turned clockwise...it would get shorter. I can't remember on the very early "G Vilas" cosmetic...but a box diagram was added to this area so you could monitor how far out or in you were adjusting the length. I think you could get at least another 1/2" longer...maybe a little more. A couple years ago Tennis Warehouse offered some of Boris' actual racquets (they went very fast)...and the telescoping handle feature was replaced by a conventional molded foam pallet (not adjustable). You have to assume that Boris had a spec for the length he liked and had his frames made to that spec.
 

Rorsach

Hall of Fame
I thought the winner had a system with plastic discs in the buttcup to lengthen the racquet, same as the BB Pro. The BB Super had the PCS system with the screw lengthening.
 

scotus

G.O.A.T.
Scotus,
Visually it would appear that the racquet would get longer above the racquet handle...when actually the frame and handle are moving in opposite directions as the screw was turned counterclock wise. The reverse effect when the screw was turned clockwise...it would get shorter. I can't remember on the very early "G Vilas" cosmetic...but a box diagram was added to this area so you could monitor how far out or in you were adjusting the length. I think you could get at least another 1/2" longer...maybe a little more. A couple years ago Tennis Warehouse offered some of Boris' actual racquets (they went very fast)...and the telescoping handle feature was replaced by a conventional molded foam pallet (not adjustable). You have to assume that Boris had a spec for the length he liked and had his frames made to that spec.
Many thanks, again, for being so helpful.
 

Tacco

New User
A few mint and new Puma Boris Becker Super.. Very nice racket.. hefty, flex with great feel.. 16x19 pattern

It's interesting to note that the first BB Super (the one on the top...) says "Graphite-Composite" on the top of the racket instead of "Graphite 50/50 Fiberglas". I've always seen the last writing on it, so I wonder why this one says a different thing. Later production, maybe "Made in Taiwan"? Different paintjob for a particular market...? A fake...?
Ettore
 

daddabompa

Hall of Fame
Hi to all, I would like the help of any Puma experts/lovers,

I've recently bought one Puma Super and I noticed that it is slightly different from all the others that I've seen before.
Like you can see from pics below, it has different "signs" on both side of the shaft: the "BB" logo is not squared/boxed and, on the other side, it says only "PUMA" and not also "Designed by G.Adam...."
Since I read that there were different production site during the years (I found out Germany, Taiwan and maybe China, but I'm not sure of the last one), I would like to know, if possible, some other info about my version, such as at what production it belongs, if it belongs to one of the first batches or to the last ones, ecc.

Many thanks to everyone!
Cheers






 

daddabompa

Hall of Fame
Thanks presley

To tennistiger: reading many threads I understood that you know Puma's Becker very well, so please do you have a more precise answer to my question ?
I mean, if you know what are the differences between this one and the other one "designed by G.Adam..." and if it is an early production (maybe Germany) or a successive one (Taiwan or some where else).
Many thanks again!
 

daddabompa

Hall of Fame
They are just the same as mine.
Do you know something more about them?
Like production site and cycle (early one or last one), and differences (if there are some) regard other version.
Thanks
 

daddabompa

Hall of Fame
Since I'm getting more interested in Puma racquets I've bought another one :)
This one is a Puma BB Winner, but surprisingly the handle system didn't work.
So I've removed the grip and under it I found a normal foamed pallet (shown on pictures below).
I read in this thread that there were some of them sold by TW some years ago, and that they appear to belong to Boris Becker's actual batch, so what I would like to know is if the one I have could really be one of the Boris's actual racquets.

Many thanks to everyone who could help!

Ps. Is there someone who knows also something more about my previous questions regarding Puma BB Super ?








 

dak95_00

Hall of Fame
Hi to all, I would like the help of any Puma experts/lovers,

I've recently bought one Puma Super and I noticed that it is slightly different from all the others that I've seen before.
Like you can see from pics below, it has different "signs" on both side of the shaft: the "BB" logo is not squared/boxed and, on the other side, it says only "PUMA" and not also "Designed by G.Adam...."
Since I read that there were different production site during the years (I found out Germany, Taiwan and maybe China, but I'm not sure of the last one), I would like to know, if possible, some other info about my version, such as at what production it belongs, if it belongs to one of the first batches or to the last ones, ecc.

Many thanks to everyone!
Cheers






I just picked one up. The BB is boxed in and Boris Becker is printed under the box. Then along the throat it says Made in Taiwan. There's nothing else on the side and no markings around the pcs.

The other side has PUMA in large font and then smaller is Designed by Ing. G. Adam for Puma-West Germany and again nothing else.
 
Since I'm getting more interested in Puma racquets I've bought another one :)
This one is a Puma BB Winner, but surprisingly the handle system didn't work.
So I've removed the grip and under it I found a normal foamed pallet (shown on pictures below).
I read in this thread that there were some of them sold by TW some years ago, and that they appear to belong to Boris Becker's actual batch, so what I would like to know is if the one I have could really be one of the Boris's actual racquets.

Many thanks to everyone who could help!

Ps. Is there someone who knows also something more about my previous questions regarding Puma BB Super ?








Its a normal retail racket (Beckers handle was L5). This is the simple PCS every BB Winner and Junior rackets have: not the whole handle is adjustable, you can only remove the butt cap and change the numer of distance pieces to make the handle shorter from standart lenght.
 

daddabompa

Hall of Fame
Its a normal retail racket (Beckers handle was L5). This is the simple PCS every BB Winner and Junior rackets have: not the whole handle is adjustable, you can only remove the butt cap and change the numer of distance pieces to make the handle shorter from standart lenght.
Thank you very much tennistiger for your help!
I have that suspect, since after buying it I've checked on **** and was plenty of this same version (especially on German site).
Do you have an answer also for my other question about my Puma Super version manufactoring site ?
You already confirmed that there are different site in 1986-87...
 

daddabompa

Hall of Fame
I just picked one up. The BB is boxed in and Boris Becker is printed under the box. Then along the throat it says Made in Taiwan. There's nothing else on the side and no markings around the pcs.

The other side has PUMA in large font and then smaller is Designed by Ing. G. Adam for Puma-West Germany and again nothing else.
Thank you very much!
Mine it's definitely the other p-j version, but I don't know yet its production site...maybe Germany, or simply they changed p-j during production and it's a Taiwan made also mine.
 

Daddy's

New User
It goes around and it comes around. Is it me or does the BB Winner look a lot like Tecnifibre's new 300 PS technology?
 
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