Hewitt: one of the all time mentally tough players

[VamosRafa]

Now I'm annoyed.

By this:

And this:

Coria, in his original post, was trying to give Hewitt a compliment, for heaven's sake. And you come along and tell him it's the wrong compliment!

Or, it's too glowing of a compliment because you -- with your superior knowledge of ATP history and Lleyton's Davis Cup history and THE FACTS -- you KNOW he's pulled out tougher matches than this one.

Jeez!!...

No need to be annoyed. I'm sure Coria meant a compliment, but he didn't know any better. But when you study the ATP more you will learn that he did Leyton a disservice here, in terms of making a thread about his first-round win over Spadea.

This type of thread tends to be done closer to finals, or in Davis Cup wins, but alas, I'm learning here that others think differently.

And that a win over Spadea in the first round in Sydney is HUGE, apparently.

Too bad that for Nadal the first-round at Wimbledon wasn't quite the same. Rafa beat Vince on grass there, but somehow Vince's prowess has grown since then, and he's invincible against all top players, but Hewitt struck him down, while ill (which I guess isn't the same thing as Rafa doing it on grass).

So go forth Hewitt, to the inevitable Sydney victory . . .

 

[devila]

Ljub had many chances to win Slam and Masters matches. He was playing weak and injured players last year. I doubt he'd win many tight matches.

Federer had his strong shoulder, long arm and legs to depend on, even when he messed up volleys/serves/backhand. He faced match points and long hardcourt matches he should've lost.
Lendl, Borg, Edberg, Rafter and Laver would beat him today.

Berdych needs intensity. Roddick has to dedicate himself, fitness and mental. What he's doing isn't helping. Add a technique coach.
Hewitt's not powerful enough and needed help from sluggish players in Masters Cup and Australia.

 

[Keifers]

You're right, no need to be annoyed.

Carry on, my friend*. By all means, please continue your superior ways.



* "friend" is sarcastic, by the way. But then you would recognize that, I'm sure. (Oops! did I do it again?!... )

 

[VamosRafa]

You're right, no need to be annoyed.

Carry on, my friend*. By all means, please continue your superior ways.



* "friend" is sarcastic, by the way. But then you would recognize that, I'm sure. (Oops! did I do it again?!... )

The friend thing does you a disservice, mon ami. Check your facts, and if I'm wrong call me on it. But you have been far more condescending than I have been under similar circumstances (i.e. where I have the knowledge and you don't).

 

[edberg505]

Actually Vince owns Ljubicic. He can cause quite the headache for certain players.

 

[jhhachamp]

They would, because Hewitt is a top ranked player, and Spadea isn't -- he isn't even in the Top 50.

There's a reason the Top ranked players are top ranked, and Hewitt showed that today. But nothing out of the ordinary for a top-ranked player. He didn't have to leap any tall buildings. He just did what most top players have to do to get a W at the end of any tournament -- beat a lower ranked player in the first round, and he did that, regardless of how either of them felt during the match. And before a home crowd no less. Perhaps he wouldn't have put in the same effort if the tournament was in another country.

So what's the big deal? Now it may impact how he does in later rounds, if he isn't 100%. But that's a different issue.

But the reason I am dismissive of what you have said, most likely, is that I've seen Lleyton doing amazing things, and this isn't remotely one of them. And it just makes me want to ask "How long have you been following tennis?"

Again, it's a total disservice to Lleyton. Do you all remember when he beat Roger after being down two sets to love in Davis Cup, and he came back? Now that is mental toughness!!! And he has shown it many times, but not to the point where we have to applaud his first round win against Spadea. IMO, anyway.

Fair enough, I just didn't like your tone addressing Coria before.

 

[jhhachamp]

And I think you, Steve and Coria would be well served by looking at the ATP history and getting your facts straight before casting stones at people who do. It would give you more credibility.

Ok, I was content to let this thread go, but this is a pretty ridiculous cheap shot. Everything here is opinion. When you dismiss mine or other's opinions by saying something to the effect of "get your facts straight if you want any credibility," it gets me pretty pissed off. Who the heck do you think you are that you can just dismiss other's opinions like that?

 

[VamosRafa]

Fair enough, I just didn't like your tone addressing Coria before.

And have you been addressed here by Phil, Deuce, Rabbit, Dedans and many others who could have really given you a hard time?

If you had, you would have realized I was very kind, just sticking to the facts, ma'am.

Some day you may face one of them, and if you do, you may be under attack.

But in the meantime, I'm just providing facts and responding to them. And I think we have decided that my facts are fine. ;-)

 

[jonolau]

To be fair to everyone, you all have a point.

But even the pros are human. All of us are born with emotions and feelings, and not everyone's going to be at the top form all life long, every second of the day.

The set the record straight, it is not easy to break into the pro circuit, let alone make it into the top 10, or even be no. 1 for that matter.

 

[Deuce]

My point is made below. Sorry for the repitition.

I'm still looking... haven't found your point yet.

Since you mention my username in your last post, Susan (Susan is 'VamosRafa' for the uninitiated), I figured I'd express a perspective here.

The perspective is that if the same circumstances had arisen, but your beloved Nadal was in the place of Hewitt - that is, if Nadal played the same match against Spadea as Hewitt did, and if 'Coria' had made the same post as he did, only substituting Nadal for Hewitt, you would have been the first one to jump in and agree 100% with his assessment of Nadal's "mental strength". Everyone who knows you on these boards knows this is fact - even those who like you. In fact, you probably would have beat 'Coria' to the post - you would have posted about Nadal's mental toughness before anyone else had a chance to.

Further, the only reason you responded at all to the original post in this thread is because it was complimentary of a player other than your beloved 'Rafa'. To you, as you have clearly demonstrated over the past 18 months or so on this board, no player deserves praise but Nadal.

This is what you're dealing with, people, when you deal with Susan. To call her biased would be a tremendous understatement. There is no use in trying to discuss or argue with her, for unless you agree that Nadal is the Greatest Human Being Who Ever Lived, she will curse you. Use your time more wisely, people.

 

[VamosRafa]

I'm still looking... haven't found your point yet.

Since you mention my username in your last post, Susan (Susan is 'VamosRafa' for the uninitiated), I figured I'd express a perspective here.

The perspective is that if the same circumstances had arisen, but your beloved Nadal was in the place of Hewitt - that is, if Nadal played the same match against Spadea as Hewitt did, and if 'Coria' had made the same post as he did, only substituting Nadal for Hewitt, you would have been the first one to jump in and agree 100% with his assessment of Nadal's "mental strength". Everyone who knows you on these boards knows this is fact - even those who like you. In fact, you probably would have beat 'Coria' to the post - you would have posted about Nadal's mental toughness before anyone else had a chance to.

Further, the only reason you responded at all to the original post in this thread is because it was complimentary of a player other than your beloved 'Rafa'. To you, as you have clearly demonstrated over the past 18 months or so on this board, no player deserves praise but Nadal.

This is what you're dealing with, people, when you deal with Susan. To call her biased would be a tremendous understatement. There is no use in trying to discuss or argue with her, for unless you agree that Nadal is the Greatest Human Being Who Ever Lived, she will curse you. Use your time more wisely, people.

Oh, God, sorry I mentioned you, Deuce. But Rafa is not part of this thread, hasn't played since Madrid, and is out for the Aus Open.

We won't see him until Feb anyway. So your point is?

PS: You've made my point about really coming under attack. *lol* And I don't think I've cursed anyone who hasn't said Nadal is the Greatest Human Being Who Ever Lived. May have to look at that for the future but not sure that NITGHBWEL has a ring to it. *rollseyes*

 

[Coria]

Australian Open: Hewitt reaches the finals and loses to Safin in 4.
French Open: Hewitt skips it.
Wimbledon: Hewitt reaches the semis and loses to Federer in straights.
US Open: Hewitt reaches the semis and loses to Federer in 4.

Excellent point. Hewitt is sure a non-entity, huh ? LMAO

 

[Coria]

No need to be annoyed. I'm sure Coria meant a compliment, but he didn't know any better. But when you study the ATP more you will learn that he did Leyton a disservice here, in terms of making a thread about his first-round win over Spadea.

This type of thread tends to be done closer to finals, or in Davis Cup wins, but alas, I'm learning here that others think differently.

And that a win over Spadea in the first round in Sydney is HUGE, apparently."



Rafa--enough already. Do you have ADD?? I never said his first round Spadea win was HUGE. I said it is an example of how tough mentally this guy is--ONE EXAMPLE!!!

YOU do the disservice. If you were a reporter, you'd be sued for taking things out of context. First round wins are a very good example of mental toughness because that is when the top players are often most vulnerable--and they face players who go for broke and often play their very best tennis.

Your comment about Hewitt being a non-entity last year or over the last couple of years was so ridiculous. The more you post, the more you confuse the crap out of everyone. Go on to another post or go to your room and throw darts at your Hewitt poster.

 

[timmyboy]

Federer is the only one who can stop Hewitt. Most of his losses this year in almost all the major tourneys was to federer.

 

[erik-the-red]

I'm a fan of Lleyton Hewitt and a former resident of Adelaide.

I think he unfairly gets a bad reputation.

I do not think that there is one bit of difference between his on-court attitude and the likes of Nastase, Connors, and McEnroe, to name a few of the game's older champions.

I also think that Hewitt is not any more grating than Nadal is. IIRC, there was this point late in the 2005 FO Final when Puerta had played one of his half-volleys. Nadal obviously ran to it, pushed it, and forced Puerta to dive. Puerta did not get the volley back. Remember what Nadal did next? He turns his back and does this shuffle thing with his legs and hips and flexes his biceps at the same time.

I am a fan of Nadal, as well. I like his fighting spirit, but I think that he is every bit as feisty on court, pro or con, as Hewitt is.

 

[jhhachamp]

And have you been addressed here by Phil, Deuce, Rabbit, Dedans and many others who could have really given you a hard time?

I have debated with all of them before and none of them ever took a cheap shot at me like when you wrote, "And I think you, Steve and Coria would be well served by looking at the ATP history and getting your facts straight before casting stones at people who do. It would give you more credibility."

If you had, you would have realized I was very kind, just sticking to the facts, ma'am.

Looks like another cheap shot here. I am obviously a man, and "ma'am" is not an appropriate way to address a man. If this is some kind of joke, I do not find it funny in the least.

Some day you may face one of them, and if you do, you may be under attack.

If I am ever "under attack" from one of them, I will deal with that when it happens. Either way, you cannot use other people to excuse your behavior.

 

[Tundra]

I have debated with all of them before and none of them ever took a cheap shot at me like when you wrote, "And I think you, Steve and Coria would be well served by looking at the ATP history and getting your facts straight before casting stones at people who do. It would give you more credibility."



Looks like another cheap shot here. I am obviously a man, and "ma'am" is not an appropriate way to address a man. If this is some kind of joke, I do not find it funny in the least.



If I am ever "under attack" from one of them, I will deal with that when it happens. Either way, you cannot use other people to excuse your behavior.

Steve never chooses an opinion; he just wears whatever happens to be in style!

 

[NoBadMojo]

I'm a fan of Lleyton Hewitt and a former resident of Adelaide.

I think he unfairly gets a bad reputation.

I do not think that there is one bit of difference between his on-court attitude and the likes of Nastase, Connors, and McEnroe, to name a few of the game's older champions.

.

So you think because other players have been jerks, that makes it perfectly fine for Hewitt..that it makes bad behaviour somehow fine?

As for me, I think his competitiveness is pretty standard for the counterpunching grinding style of play..nothing greatly special there. He may seem more competitive becase of all the drama, but he's no competitor like a Federer or Sampras or Borg or Connors..not even close I dont think.
Someone would have to check out how many big matches he has won coming from behind and stuff like that..that sort of thing is the most revealing i think.

 

[VamosRafa]

Steve never chooses an opinion; he just wears whatever happens to be in style!

Rather like Beau Brummel. Guess I see the resemblance. ;-) But I doubt he will reign over the ton here, or otherwise dictate fashion. He doesn't have that much style. ;-)

BTW, NoBadMojo, I disagree with your assessment re Hewitt overall. The reason he is where he is is because of his mental abilities -- in crucial situations, of course. Not first round in Sydney re Spadea.

But for a counterpouncher, who has dismal results on clay, he's done awfully well for himself, and if you give him an inch, he'll take a mile. Which is why I have always liked him.

And still do. But I think there are others out there now who are better, and that's what will either be confirmed or denied in coming months/years. Does he still have what it takes to remain at the top?

 

[alienhamster]

Steve never chooses an opinion; he just wears whatever happens to be in style!

Is this like a cheap-shot-a-thon? Umm, Steve, your hair is really, umm, bad. There. Guess I told you.

And NoBAdMojo, how can you claim Hewitt isn't up there as one of the biggest competitors in tennis? I mean, just last year, how he fought thru a ton of tough matches to get to the Aussie final. And his comeback against Fed in Davis Cup (whenever that was). I feel like he's always in deep into every point he's playing. None of his shots are technically awesome. His counterpunching, defense-to-offense are of course outstanding, but I think you have to attribute a good bit of his slam success to his mental toughness. (He doesn't have a Sampras serve or Federer forehand/everything, so it's gotta be sumpin'.)

And I don't even like Hewitt. But I do respect this aspect of his play.

 

[Tundra]

Rather like Beau Brummel. Guess I see the resemblance. ;-) But I doubt he will reign over the ton here, or otherwise dictate fashion. He doesn't have that much style. ;-)

True Vamos. I never liked him and I always will.

 

[VamosRafa]

True Vamos. I never liked him and I always will.

*roflmao* Drawing room repartee can never be overdone, IMO.

 

[Rabbit]

And have you been addressed here by Phil, Deuce, Rabbit, Dedans and many others who could have really given you a hard time?

If you had, you would have realized I was very kind, just sticking to the facts, ma'am.

Some day you may face one of them, and if you do, you may be under attack.

Attack? No way. What gets my dorsal fin up is your acting suprised and offended when someone replies in kind to one of your condescending posts, i.e. read quotation. I don't remember ever making a personal remark directed at you, other than the Granny Nadal thing which I truly thought was funny.

I do remember chastising you for what I thought were blatantly condescending posts which were directed at people with the intent of making them look like idiots. Your pat reply is "I expected more from you", but you never apply that standard to yourself it would appear. This thread is ripe with examples of the very tone and verbiage that makes folks here resent you, Vamos.

I would like to add that this is in no way an attack of any sort. This is a once again attempt at an explanation as to why you experience the turbulence that you do.

 

[Dedans Penthouse]

And have you been addressed here by Phil, Deuce, Rabbit, [size=+1]Dedans[/size] and many others who could have really given you a hard time?

If you had, you would have realized I was very kind, just sticking to the facts, ma'am.

Some day you may face one of them, and if you do, you may be under attack. ....... ;-)

Et tu Brutus Rafus Vamus?

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=48496&page7

I'm at a loss of words. The thread refered to above was the "Blake Courier" thread. It can also be accessed via typing in the words "sour apple martini" in the "Search" function. Again, I find myself standing on the proverbial corner of Crestfallen & Disbelief. Or, if I were writing a C&W (Country & Western) tune; "Standing on the corner of 'Love 'Em and Leave 'Em' again." .

You backstabbing cockteaser, what's with that "give you a hard time" crap you wrote above??!! Was I just another one of your dartboards where you felt free to accept my repeated "besos'" and respond (and how!) in kind....only to revert to including ME (moi) in your "Connection-To-The-Stars" Part II reincarnation???!!! Since I've now been blindsided by you, obviously I can't (figuratively) refresh your drink; so instead, I'll refresh YOUR memory. The following are DIRECT (not paraphrased) quotes from YOU (I still can't believe you'd pull this crap on me):

Culled from the "Blake - Courier" thread:

(Post #91) "Vamos Rafa: Dedans, gracias para respuesta amable yo aprecio mucho. Muchos besos a usted. Gracias.
Dedans Penthouse response:Even for those who know 'muy poquito' Espanol (very little Spanish) will note the amicable if not affectionate tone from our Miss Vamos. In it, she said (among other things) that she very much wanted to have my baby, but details....details....details, that's not important. What was important to note was her TONE. And as an aside to my out-of-left-field (sudden) on-again antagonist: yes Brutus Vamus, I just used the title "Miss" above .... for in that Blake - Courier thread, I read in your words, I tasted on your lips (as surely as I tasted garlic in your mouth), I saw in your eyes and I felt it in your hips in that "BLAKE - COURIER" thread, a woman of passion that was anything but married at that point; no!...at that moment you were then under my spell, you turncoat!! You trecherous cockteaser!! Go ahead TW censor and **** (delete) that "TEASE" term to your heart's content--the truth has been set loose!!!!


(Post #94)Vamos Rafa: "Oh as for the Spanish.....private post to Dedans. And I'm sorry we couldn't do it by e-mail....this particular thread should have been over with Dedans' final post. His words should have been the last ones here, as HE WAS SO DIPLOMATIC TO EVERYONE INCLUDED. It was very well done IMO....I would've given Dedans the last word."
Dedans Penthouse response: So, you talk about me giving Steve Dykstra a hard time? In lieu of this? Res ipsa loquitur, MISS TEASE, ESQ!!! Your words (diplomatic?) suddenly ring:
a. hollow
b. hollow
c. hollow, or:
d. like that of a duplicitous cockteaser

:evil:

(Post #107)Vamos Rafa: "And I also expect Dedans will continue to be OTT (over-the-top), but in his NORMAL, LIGHT-HEARTED WAY ;-) ...... Besos (kisses) to all, and ESPECIALLY TO DEDANS."
Dedans Penthouse response: Is it me, or wouldn't any one (even those who've been holed up in a convent) with two brain cells denote a "friendly pattern" here?.....a "kindred spirit" kind of vibe? Again, res ipsa loquitur (translation for the non-lawyers: Latin for "the thing speaks for itself"). Speaking of which, it almost seems like yesterday when I said to you "well, I may not be a lawyer, but I can probably get you off." Am I talking to the same "bonita besos" artist here? Woman, thy name is quicksand!

And that above post of yours was followed by a very funny exchange between Datacipher (where are you, btw!) and Bungalo Bill
(Posts #108--#111)? And do you recall that YOU again returned in Post #112 to say that you were exiting....but that before you went: (Post #112) Vamos Rafa: "Besos AGAIN to Dedans." and from there it launched into the (if I may humbly say so):

THE INFAMOUS POST #114 "CARSON CITY, NEVADA, CIRCA 1873 BLUES/SOUR APPLE MARTINI" EPIC. (or as Phil would call it: "one for the ages").

Listen tease: I loved you before Carson City; you and I were (in full view of the TW board) "besos-ing" repeatedly like a bunch of jelly-sweet-mouthed-groupers (oh...the dew-like sweat-necteur that would outline your upper lip !)......then came Carson City (Post #114) and you were swooning like you were falling backwards off a diving board in a Nestea Ice Tea commercial; you gave yourself---YES! GAVE YOURSELF!!!--- to me, without reservation. You were a woman posessed!!! You went from flickering flame to Atlanta burning in "Gone With the Wind!" You tease!!! You gave yourself to me!!! Again and again and again and without reservation!!! And you said that I was different from the rest--that I didn't need any coupons--whatever the hell that meant!!! You....You tease!!! You underhanded tease!!! You!...who put the tease in cockteaser--and you have the temerity, nay!...you have the consummate GALL to include me, Dedans Penthouse, worshiper of women in the same breath as those rascals Phil, Rabbit, Deuce et al??!!!

At least those sons-of-b!tches (and what great sons-of-b1tches they are!) let you know what page they're on....and where you stand with them; good or bad.

And you Miss Brutus Rafus Vamus? Et tu?

Speaking of "et tu" where are my platonic babes fee, noelle, megacedu et al......they wouldn't pull the rug out from under me? They're babes.

 

[erik-the-red]

So you think because other players have been jerks, that makes it perfectly fine for Hewitt..that it makes bad behaviour somehow fine?

As for me, I think his competitiveness is pretty standard for the counterpunching grinding style of play..nothing greatly special there. He may seem more competitive becase of all the drama, but he's no competitor like a Federer or Sampras or Borg or Connors..not even close I dont think.
Someone would have to check out how many big matches he has won coming from behind and stuff like that..that sort of thing is the most revealing i think.

NBM, I respect your advice WRT many factors, but having that said...

...that's a straw man. All I said was he gets an unfair and bad reputation for being a "jerk." As far as I'm concerned, his behavior is fairly tame compared to the likes of McEnroe, Connors, and Nastase at their best / worst.

Around the time of the AO 2005, Tennis Magazine gave a stat that I thought was revealing about Hewitt's heart: his five-set record. After his loss to Safin, a four-setter, it was 16-8. Add the two at the USO and it's 18-8. Umm...NBM, I don't know about you, but 18-8 is a pretty damn good five-set record IMO. Federer's five-set record is something like 8-9 after that loss to Bandy. To my knowledge, he doesn't have thalassemia (sp?) minor like Sampras does. Due to that condition, Sampras had an endurance problem. Borg? Come on, that's unfair. Something like a 28-4 five-set record and never losing a match two sets leading? Connors? No comment needed.

 

[Rabbit]

...you have the consummate GALL to include me, Dedans Penthouse, worshiper of women in the same breath as those rascals Phil, Rabbit, Deuce et al??!!!

You know, everything was cool until your quoted sentence here. Not only do you implicate me as a rascal of sorts, a rogue if you will, but you have the complete and total audacity to place me between Phil and Deuce. Talk about caught in the crossfire! Not only am I open for shots from her Femininity, now I am refereeing one of the heavyweight bouts of the boards.

If I could quote my favorite small man, Yosemite Sam....

"I hate you, Dedans..."

 

[Dedans Penthouse]

Hate is not served in the "Penthouse"

I love you Rabbit.

 

[Fee]

Et tu Brutus Rafus Vamus?

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=48496&page7

I'm at a loss of words. The thread refered to above was the "Blake Courier" thread. It can also be accessed via typing in the words "sour apple martini" in the "Search" function. Again, I find myself standing on the proverbial corner of Crestfallen & Disbelief. Or, if I were writing a C&W (Country & Western) tune; "Standing on the corner of 'Love 'Em and Leave 'Em' again." .

.........

And you Miss Brutus Rafus Vamus? Et tu? .....

Speaking of "et tu" where are my platonic babes fee, noelle, megacedu et al......they wouldn't pull the rug out from under me? They're babes.

DP, isn't the love of a woman like me enough to make you forsake these other girls? I think I need some time to myself.

 

[jonolau]

DP, isn't the love of a woman like me enough to make you forsake these other girls? I think I need some time to myself.

Fee, read my quote on love, and you definitely will have no time for yourself ...

"I'm always wearing my wife's glasses because she always wants me to see things from her point of view ... "

 

[Rabbit]

DP, isn't the love of a woman like me enough to make you forsake these other girls? I think I need some time to myself.

Fee, I'll always be here to pick up the pieces.

 

[Noelle]

Et tu Brutus Rafus Vamus?

http://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/showthread.php?t=48496&page7

I'm at a loss of words. The thread refered to above was the "Blake Courier" thread. It can also be accessed via typing in the words "sour apple martini" in the "Search" function. Again, I find myself standing on the proverbial corner of Crestfallen & Disbelief. Or, if I were writing a C&W (Country & Western) tune; "Standing on the corner of 'Love 'Em and Leave 'Em' again." .

Sorry, this just went completely over my head.

 

[JohnThomas1]

Hewitt is the toughest fighter i have ever seen on the court. He is never beaten.

 

[VamosRafa]

Sorry, this just went completely over my head.

It did me, too. That was so, like, last year -- or perhaps it was the year before.

 

[MegacedU]

Dp - I only wish I could understand that post.
Et tu Brute...I got that part. That's funny, I hated J.C.

 

[superman1]

Hewitt is up there, but I'd give it the mentally tough award to Connors, the street fighter.

 

[Fee]

Fee, I'll always be here to pick up the pieces.

Oh, thank you furry one.

Noelle, to understand DP's post in this thread, you have to go to the link he gives, and then find the posts (by number) that he refers to. Read those posts (especially the Spaghetti western one, an all time classic), then come back and read his post again. It should make sense. If not, chalk it up to history and move on. He'll write another one soon.

 

[Noelle]

Thanks, Fee. I understand now.

To His Majesty:
Far it be from a lowly subject to demand a trifle from her lord, but...
WHERE IN TARNATION IS THAT SEQUEL?

 

[Fee]

rofl... You rock Noelle (but you already know that )

 

[gugafanatic]

Did not want to create a new thread, but he just shaved his hair off. May bring him good luck like it did at Wimbledon few years back.

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[Phil]

And have you been addressed here by Phil, Deuce, Rabbit, Dedans and many others who could have really given you a hard time?

If you had, you would have realized I was very kind, just sticking to the facts, ma'am.

Some day you may face one of them, and if you do, you may be under attack.

Right, TW's Axis of Evil according to our resident single-issue poster.

Susan, it's hilarious (and sad at the same time) that you've decided to hijack this thread posing as some sort of tennis "Expert" and denigrate other posters' opinions, particularly the OP, who made a perfectly good and correct assumption about Hewitt, when it's been proven time and again that you know absolutely nothing about the actual game of tennis. Once again, we see poor little VamosRafa taking fire from all sides with people fed up with her supercileous manner. Gossip, useless off-the-court drivel? Hey, call yourself the Grand Poobah Mother of all of Pro Tennis Minutiae for all I care, but as for the game itself-you know nada.

Don't assume that I or any of the other people in your TW AofE would have given ANYONE a hard time based on the hard time we've given you, totally justified and TOTALLY brought on yourself through your ignorance, arrogance and the godawful bullshiate that spews frrom your pie hole. Okay? Is clear to you. I wouldn't have said A THING here, but once again, you feel the need to sla-gg people who aren't even involved in a particular discussion.

 

[Phil]

And have you been addressed here by Phil, Deuce, Rabbit, Dedans and many others who could have really given you a hard time?

If you had, you would have realized I was very kind, just sticking to the facts, ma'am.

Some day you may face one of them, and if you do, you may be under attack.

Right, TW's Axis of Evil according to our resident single-issue poster.

Susan, it's hilarious (and sad at the same time) that you've decided to hijack this thread posing as some sort of tennis "Expert" and denigrate other posters' opinions, particularly the OP, who made a perfectly good and correct assumption about Hewitt, when it's been proven time and again that you know absolutely nothing about the actual game of tennis. Once again, we see poor little VamosRafa taking fire from all sides with people fed up with her supercileous manner. Gossip, useless off-the-court drivel? Hey, call yourself the Grand Poobah Mother of all of Pro Tennis Minutiae for all I care, but as for the game itself-you know nada.

Don't assume that I or any of the other people in your TW AofE would have given ANYONE a hard time based on the hard time we've given you, totally justified and TOTALLY brought on yourself through your ignorance, arrogance and the godawful bullshiate that spews frrom your pie hole. Okay? Is that clear for you? I wouldn't have said A THING here, but once again, you feel the need to sla-gg people who aren't even involved in a particular discussion.

 

[I.hEaRt.KeAbLe]

um....no.hewitt.no.

 

[ty slothrop]

Right, TW's Axis of Evil according to our resident single-issue poster.

Susan, it's hilarious (and sad at the same time) that you've decided to hijack this thread posing as some sort of tennis "Expert" and denigrate other posters' opinions, particularly the OP, who made a perfectly good and correct assumption about Hewitt, when it's been proven time and again that you know absolutely nothing about the actual game of tennis. Once again, we see poor little VamosRafa taking fire from all sides with people fed up with her supercileous manner. Gossip, useless off-the-court drivel? Hey, call yourself the Grand Poobah Mother of all of Pro Tennis Minutiae for all I care, but as for the game itself-you know nada.

Don't assume that I or any of the other people in your TW AofE would have given ANYONE a hard time based on the hard time we've given you, totally justified and TOTALLY brought on yourself through your ignorance, arrogance and the godawful bullshiate that spews frrom your pie hole. Okay? Is that clear for you? I wouldn't have said A THING here, but once again, you feel the need to sla-gg people who aren't even involved in a particular discussion.

now phil, just 'cause she combs through braying donkey boy's feces to capture the breaking news of whether he prefers kalamata or greek olives doesn't mean she doesn't know tennis. Be fair!

 

[Phil]

now phil, just 'cause she combs through braying donkey boy's feces to capture the breaking news of whether he prefers kalamata or greek olives doesn't mean she doesn't know tennis. Be fair!

Ty, that image is a bit...disturbing...ya twisted bastich...but, once past the disturbed feeling it evokes I'm ROFLMAO!

 

[ty slothrop]

Ty, that image is a bit...disturbing...ya twisted bastich...but, once past the disturbed feeling it evokes I'm ROFLMAO!

i hear it's kalamata, for the record

 

[Phil]

i hear it's kalamata, for the record

I thought kalamata and Greek were one and the same-the black olives, which I dislike. But this is all about Rafa-WWRE (What Would Rafa Eat)?

 

[Noelle]

Poor Hewitt. I hope he's mentally tough enough to withstand the hijacking of his thread by Nadal.

 

[ty slothrop]

or WWRS, perhaps, if you catch my drift...

 

[Dedans Penthouse]

Thanks, Fee. I understand now.

To His Majesty:
Far it be from a lowly subject to demand a trifle from her lord, but...
WHERE IN TARNATION IS THAT SEQUEL?

rotf.......you rock Noelle (but you already know that )

The "original" had a platform to launch itself off of. I've bandied about a few thoughts about what THEME could serve as a launching pad for the sequel? And I realized that to "invent" one out of thin air would sound.....forced?

That is, just like the "original," I was going to have to shoehorn it into (and have it "sprout" from) an already existing thread (in the case of the "original" the Courier/Blake thread).

Wouldn't you know it, the Peter Bodo-Nadal Doping thread was just what the sick doctor ordered, or (in the words of Jon Lovitz), "Yeah...THAT'S the ticket!" It was only TODAY that I had stumbled across that thread because (frankly speaking) I thought it was just going to be another boring round-and-round PARTISAN-BASED agument along the same lines as the recent spate of "Graf-Seles" yawnfests.

Oh, idiot me--was I ever wrong! We had most of the "A" list all represented and accounted for--and with "guns drawn." Oh, would this have made for a deliciously sick Western movie. This "Bodo-Nadal" baby was replete with speculative "what ifs?" that were met with declarations of "official replies" (lol!) which then (THANK GOD!!!!) morphed, or better yet: coalesed into a dysfunctional family food fight at the dinner table. The bad part is, I only got to the end of page 6 and was just starting to flip to page 7 when ....... those cyber-cops' "peace, love and understanding" California sensibilities got the better of them and they then pulled the plug on it altogether. Bad enough I couldn't hi-jack the sucker....what's worse was that I didn't even get to read the last 3 pages--it was just starting to blossem into something quite promising. This "table" was already "set" so to speak--talk about just add water! CAN SOMEONE PLEASE TELL ME HOW IT TURNED OUT?? THANKS~~!!

~~We had the respective "camps" set up.

~~We had alliances that were formed as well as some new ones courtesy of newbie "visitors" from VamosRafa.com.

~~Imagine Phil with a pair of six shooters. He was, after all, requested that the script called for him to get to shoot 4 people in the sequel--a promise that had to be honored. Hell, we were going to have him blow away a 5th person. The "5th person" was this grouch from P.E.T.A. (People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals) who having walked past two people Phil shot dead totally unfazed, went ballistic at the sight of one of his bullets passing completely through one of his victim's body and claiming the life of a nearby endangered Big-Breasted Bed-Thrasher perched on a nearby deadwood tree. The P.E.T.A. official didn't care about the pair 'o humans blown away by Phil, she harranged him non-stop about the glorified buzzard he inadvertantly plucked outta the tree with the stray bullet.......a guy can take just so much.

Tip of the iceberg..........could go on and on.....what a shame they deleted that one; that had "airport runway--TAKEOFF!" written all over it (sad)

Oh...and Noelle, as previously promised there will be "and Introducing....Noelle" in the credits as you will have a cameo apearance. You play this "normal" person in a scene where ..... well, in that respect, let's just say that you're a party of one. Fee, we're still negotiating with your agent about that "intimacy clause" that Rabbit is refusing to budge on....

 

[Noelle]

Sometimes, TW means Train Wreck. I didn't even know that thread got deleted.