Hewitt vs Edberg

Hewitt vs Edberg


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Wynter

Legend
So one of the greatest Serve and Volleyers, and maybe the greatest net player ever against the man who has a leading H2H against every Serve and Volleyer he has ever played

Hewitt 5-4 Sampras (2-1)
Hewitt 9-1 Henman (4-0)
Hewitt 3-1 Rafter (0-0)
Hewitt 3-0 Ivanišević (3-0)
Hewitt 3-1 Philippoussis (1-0)
Hewitt 4-3 Rusedski (1-1)

Hewitt has Poly strings as he did in the early 2000s during the transition period, Edberg the raquet he always used.
 

mental midget

Hall of Fame
interesting question. at their respective best levels i give stefan the edge, but over the long run i think hewitt is the slight favorite.
 

90's Clay

Banned
Hewitt got ahold of a lot of these S&Vers at the end of their primes or already past it.

Edberg would DESTROY Hewitt prime for prime 'nuff said. As would Sampras.

Im tired of people talking about Hewitt as if he were some all time great. The guy won just TWO measly slams during the most pathetic transitional era in the HISTORY of men's tennis
 

Vcore89

G.O.A.T.
Hewitt can definitely hold his own against Edberg. Imo,

Edberg wins 70 - 30 in his time.

Hewitt's wins 60 - 40 in his time.
 

TeamOB

Professional
Hewitt is the S+V players nightmare. His game seems tailor-made to destroy S+V: Great returns, GOAT lobs, great passing-shots and speed. He is one of the few guys who is actually comfortable with being driven into corners and attacked. I think one of the reasons his results declined after 2002 is the disappearance of S+V players. Hewitt's game is based on precisely redirecting flat shots and does not do as well against heavy-hitting baseliners. Anyways, I think Hewitt would be a bad matchup for Edberg (like he was for all other S+V players) and would win around 7 out of 10 of their matches.
 

Cormorant

Professional
Hewitt 1-4 Karlovic (0-3 on grass)
Hewitt 2-3 Escude (1-1 on grass)
Hewitt 0-1 Brown, Dustin (0-1 on grass)
 
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Breaker

Legend
Hewitt got ahold of a lot of these S&Vers at the end of their primes or already past it.

Edberg would DESTROY Hewitt prime for prime 'nuff said. As would Sampras.

Im tired of people talking about Hewitt as if he were some all time great. The guy won just TWO measly slams during the most pathetic transitional era in the HISTORY of men's tennis
7-6, 6-1, 6-1
 

Vensai

Professional
Hewitt got ahold of a lot of these S&Vers at the end of their primes or already past it.

Edberg would DESTROY Hewitt prime for prime 'nuff said. As would Sampras.

Im tired of people talking about Hewitt as if he were some all time great. The guy won just TWO measly slams during the most pathetic transitional era in the HISTORY of men's tennis
Two slams is pretty good actually.
And didn't Hewitt beat Sampras at the US Open?
 
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Deleted member 307496

Guest
Two slams is pretty good actually.
And didn't Hewitt beat Sampras at the US Open?
Hewitt beat Sampras every time he played him after the 2000 US Open, and beforehand beat Sampras on "fast grass" the same year. And it is amazing how a "transitional champion" of over ten years ago is still a top 50 player today.
 
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Deleted member 307496

Guest
And in comparison, Roddick was demolished by Sampras at the 2002 US Open, where the year previous Hewitt did the same to Sampras, and Hewitt was not that much better than Roddick, if at all.
 

Cormorant

Professional
Hewitt 1-1 Ram (1-0 on grass)

Hewitt has also struggled with Tsonga(0-4 h2h) and Fish(2-2 h2h), who both incorporate a lot of s&v by modern standards.
 
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Deleted member 307496

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Hewitt 1-1 Ram (1-0 on grass)

Hewitt has also struggled with Tsonga(0-4 h2h) and Fish(2-2 h2h), who both incorporate a lot of s&v by modern standards.
Fish and Tsonga are still baseline players, and these matches happened long after his prime and are therefore basically irrelevant considering speed and timing are the key necessities in Hewitt's game and they were rendered useless as far back as 2006. Hewitt also performed a masterclass on Fish at 2002 Queens, beating him 7-5, 6-3..
 

California

Semi-Pro
Hewitt got ahold of a lot of these S&Vers at the end of their primes or already past it.

Edberg would DESTROY Hewitt prime for prime 'nuff said. As would Sampras.

Im tired of people talking about Hewitt as if he were some all time great. The guy won just TWO measly slams during the most pathetic transitional era in the HISTORY of men's tennis
I agree 100%. Is this a joke? Prime Edberg rolls over Hewitt... like 91 USOpen final against Courier... Hewitt was a decent player in a weak era...
 

1477aces

Hall of Fame
And in comparison, Roddick was demolished by Sampras at the 2002 US Open, where the year previous Hewitt did the same to Sampras, and Hewitt was not that much better than Roddick, if at all.
I believe roddick had an injury in that match.
 

poofytail

Banned
Hmm this is interesting. Serve and volleyers who dont have monstrous serves or huge power tend to not do well vs Hewitt- Rafter, Henman, etc..As others have mentioned even someone like Sampras who did have a devastating serve and huge game struggled when playing his attacking game vs Hewitt somewhat. However Edberg is on a whole different level than other underpowered serve and volleys like Rafter and Henman, and had more power overall athleticsm, and most of all mental toughness than both as well. I am not sure how this match up would go.

Another thing about Stefan is he was about the most persistent I saw. Even when things werent going his way awhile in a match, or no matter who he was playing or how hard it go, he continued to play his game relentlessly.
 

heninfan99

Talk Tennis Guru
Incomparable players. Do you prefer a muscle car or the elegance of a Ferrari?

Unless you go by achievements, then the answer is obvious.
 

GameSetR

Rookie
Hewitt would hold his own purely based on styles, but the gap in class is too big for me actually say he'd have a winning record over Edberg. He might win a few matches here and there, but there would be more times than not that Edberg utterly destroys him.
 

Sunny014

Legend
Depends on age gap, give Hewitt a 6-7+ years age gap and he beats Sampras, Edberg etc etc

Same aged those guys would prevail, they too would adapt and do what Hewitt does, better than him, would change racquets if needed

In Tennis everything is age gap, Fed himself would look like a demon vs djokodal if the age gap is removed
 

mental midget

Hall of Fame
interesting matchup. i could see a tight h2h with occasional blowouts on both sides. giving 'young edberg' the edge, hewitt didn't overpower off the ground and stefan's ground game was actually pretty solid, as was his movement of course.
 

Chanwan

G.O.A.T.
Hewitt got ahold of a lot of these S&Vers at the end of their primes or already past it.

Edberg would DESTROY Hewitt prime for prime 'nuff said. As would Sampras.

Im tired of people talking about Hewitt as if he were some all time great. The guy won just TWO measly slams during the most pathetic transitional era in the HISTORY of men's tennis
They don't make them like 90's clay anymore
 

FD3S

Hall of Fame
This is actually a very interesting matchup to think about, but IMO the specific scenario laid out in the OP (assuming peak for peak) where Hewitt has poly strings whereas Edberg is stuck with his vintage PS85 setup does Edberg zero favors. Those dipping, spinny passes are kryptonite for pure serve and volleyers, and Stefan was as a pure net player as there ever was. While Edberg was an excellent server he never really blew it by people ala Sampras or Goran; it was used as a tool to set up a winning/forcing first volley as opposed to lighting up the radar gun, and if Hewitt could get a half-decent look at a return he could usually make said first volley a lot harder than it could have been. He's also not going to want to trade groundies with Hewitt because the latter's baseline consistency is far superior when it comes to medium/long rallies, and while peak Edberg's proficiency at net is such that even someone as insanely fast as Hewitt would have issues once he got up there, there's also no denying the accuracy and precision of Hewitt's passing shots and lobs. Tough hypothetical matchup for Stefan, and one that's too hard to wave away with talk of major counts and statistics.
 

Pheasant

Hall of Fame
This would be a very interesting matchup. Tennis sometimes has odd matchups. Nadal challenged peak Fed hard on hard courts, even though a much lesser player like Davydenko gave Nadal fits on hard courts(6-1 on hard courts vs Nadal, includes 4-0 record AFTER Nadal bagged a hard court slam). Wawrinka from 2013-2016 pushed Djoker hard. Sometimes, the matchups are weird like that. Murray had a winning record overall vs Federer for a long time.

I honestly don't know how to pick this particular matchup. Even though Edberg was a far better player overall, I think Hewitt would give him very tough time in a HTH matchup.
 

Sunny014

Legend
This would be a very interesting matchup. Tennis sometimes has odd matchups. Nadal challenged peak Fed hard on hard courts, even though a much lesser player like Davydenko gave Nadal fits on hard courts(6-1 on hard courts vs Nadal, includes 4-0 record AFTER Nadal bagged a hard court slam). Wawrinka from 2013-2016 pushed Djoker hard. Sometimes, the matchups are weird like that. Murray had a winning record overall vs Federer for a long time.

I honestly don't know how to pick this particular matchup. Even though Edberg was a far better player overall, I think Hewitt would give him very tough time in a HTH matchup.
Murray never had a winning record vs Federer in Slams, it was always a 1 sided asswhooping of Murray !

In best of 3 he snapped some wins in the beginning when Federer was focussed on Nadal and ignored this guy in BO3s, once Fed decided to spank this guy it was 1 sided despite this guy entering his peak and Fed being past his prime

I don't know why this forum is obsessed with Murray's worthless wins in 3 setters at the beginning of his career, are you guys from Britain ??? Do you have a vested interest in hyping these sorta fellows ??
 

Martin J

Professional
Edberg historically struggled with players who could handle well or even neutralize his serve like Connors, Agassi or Courier, so I think Hewitt would give him a lot of troubles. A fast guy with a great return and passing shots would be a tough challenge for Stefan.
 

Start da Game

Hall of Fame
the biggest illusion that hewitt’s style was an antidote to serve and volley would have been busted then and there had he not disappeared so fast or at least the serve and volley remained a little longer on the tour…..
 

Dan Lobb

G.O.A.T.
the biggest illusion that hewitt’s style was an antidote to serve and volley would have been busted then and there had he not disappeared so fast or at least the serve and volley remained a little longer on the tour…..
But with changes in racquet technology and racquet head size increasing, the game changed. You would have to give them similar racquets to judge.
 

GameSetR

Rookie
Edberg historically struggled with players who could handle well or even neutralize his serve like Connors, Agassi or Courier, so I think Hewitt would give him a lot of troubles. A fast guy with a great return and passing shots would be a tough challenge for Stefan.
No doubt, but in seems the OP was trying to ask if Hewitt would have winning record against Edberg. The answer would be no.
 

Mustard

Talk Tennis Guru
Hewitt loved playing against serve and volleyers. Returning those serves was like target practice for him. Only Karlovic he seemed to struggle with a bit, as Karlovic is so tall he hit the serve down at a different trajectory.
 

skaj

Legend
Hewitt had a great game for playing against serve and volley style - excellent return, quick feet, great lobs and passing shots. Still, I think Edberg wins most of their matches.
 
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