High twohanded backhand always flat?

[toth]

As i see top players hit high twohanded backhands only flat.
Do i see right?
My own experience: if i can set up and attak the high incoming ball i naturally hit it flat.
But there are many incoming high heavy ball i can not set up and attak- i dont see what do top players in these occasions?
I mean i would rather try these balls loop back defensively(!?)
Or is it only rec problem?
Or i schould step back in these occasions? (i would not like step back)

Thank you for your answer
Toth

 

[3loudboys]

Saw Carlos yesterday occasionally loop a high backhand back through choice. I think that it’s situational and tactical and pros can use the high loop as a weapon with the spin they are able to generate.

On a rec level depends how competent you are to make the ball and be aggressive, or whether it’s more likely for you to win the point by stepping back and conceding some ground. Found the later works well up to a certain level but as your opponents get better, you may well need to take some time away taking the ball early at the high part of the bounce.

 

[toth]

Saw Carlos yesterday occasionally loop a high backhand back through choice. I think that it’s situational and tactical and pros can use the high loop as a weapon with the spin they are able to generate.

On a rec level depends how competent you are to make the ball and be aggressive, or whether it’s more likely for you to win the point by stepping back and conceding some ground. Found the later works well up to a certain level but as your opponents get better, you may well need to take some time away taking the ball early at the high part of the bounce.

I will look Alcaraz's high backhands again (until now it seemed for me he also hit these always flat)

 

[tjanev]

it's very hard to swipe up on a high back hand unless you're mr.fantastic. One thing i have noticed is that some players do give a small wrist flick on the high backhands to give it a bit of topsin.

 

[ProStaffFanatic]

As i see top players hit high twohanded backhands only flat.
Do i see right?
My own experience: if i can set up and attak the high incoming ball i naturally hit it flat.
But there are many incoming high heavy ball i can not set up and attak- i dont see what do top players in these occasions?
I mean i would rather try these balls loop back defensively(!?)
Or is it only rec problem?
Or i schould step back in these occasions? (i would not like step back)

Thank you for your answer
Toth

My 80s / 90s technique makes it such that the higher the ball is above net height when I make contact, the flatter it will be. The lower, the more spin. Forehands that I strike at shoulder height or above in an offensive position, I call it "the forehand smash"

I can put spin it though, especially on forehand, it's just that I usually don't.. The amount of spin is directly inversly related to how low or high I make contact

 

[toth]

What about these open stance defensiv high thbh's?

 

[toth]

In the highlight there is not a single Alcaraz loopy high thbh
it could be a very rare shot (?!)

Saw Carlos yesterday occasionally loop a high backhand back through choice. I think that it’s situational and tactical and pros can use the high loop as a weapon with the spin they are able to generate.

On a rec level depends how competent you are to make the ball and be aggressive, or whether it’s more likely for you to win the point by stepping back and conceding some ground. Found the later works well up to a certain level but as your opponents get better, you may well need to take some time away taking the ball early at the high part of the bounce.

 

[3loudboys]

In the highlight there is not a single Alcaraz loopy high thbh
it could be a very rare shot (?!)

Maybe thinking of the semi - my bad

 

[toth]

I dont find these Alcaraz loopy high thbh's

here in a better quality at 47 min 17 sec Nadal's open stance defensiv high thbh's:

i usually play on clay, so i am interessed in your opinion, are these Nadal open stance thbh's recommendable to copy for a rec player?

 

[toth]

Scott Murphy high backhand:

Open stance is the first key to hitting high topspin drives--even for two-handers.</em


However, there are other options on the two hander. These apply when the player is not able to get in position to take the ball on the rise and it gets above the normal strike zone.

The first is to open the stance, and to hit upward and through the ball. This is analogous to the strategy we outlined for the forehand. In fact, the shot is hit very much like a high left-handed forehand.

For this reason, players who use this option are more like to use a specific hitting arm configuration, what John Yandell has identified as the “bent/bent” combination. Here the back arm is bent at the elbow with the wrist laid back. Now the left side and left arm can drive the racket up and through the ball.

You see this with pro players such as Nicolay Davydenko, Dimtri Tursunov and Maria Ancic. From the open stance they can hit a heavy topspin loop reply, or be even more aggressive and flatten the ball out even from shoulder level.

 

[toth]

The high backhand – Marin Tennis Lessons | Scott Murphy Tennis Pro

Scott Murphy is one of the most sought after USPTA tennis pros in California. He is a top ranked senior open player and former multi-sport athlete at Cal Berkeley.

www.scottmurphytennis.net

 

[toth]

i have found what i have look for!

for example at 2:53:20 Chang backhand
it seem easier
on clay of cource

 

[bitcoinoperated]

it's very hard to swipe up on a high back hand unless you're mr.fantastic. One thing i have noticed is that some players do give a small wrist flick on the high backhands to give it a bit of topsin.

You don't really need lots of spin because you are higher than the net at contact already. Low balls is where you need spin since you have to lift the ball over the net.

 

[toth]

You don't really need lots of spin because you are higher than the net at contact already. Low balls is where you need spin since you have to lift the ball over the net.

Just looks easier to set up in defensiv situations (i dont want to step back).
I will try it