Higher bone density in tennis players (BBC)

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
Apparently, tennis players have higher bone density* in their racquet-playing arm.

* MAGA in cells try to increase their bone density in their dominant arm with a different activity, but it is less effective than tennis.
 

GodlessEndeavor

Professional
Muscle growth causes bone density to increase. The body has feedback loops like that in order to keep things balanced. If you're stronger you also need more bone density to handle the extra weight and repeated efforts.
 

Grafil Injection

Hall of Fame
Cool bone and muscle graphics, and lovely forehands from Freya. Probably works faster when you're young, but even I notice it after an intensive Summer of play.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Apparently, tennis players have higher bone density* in their racquet-playing arm.

* MAGA in cells try to increase their bone density in their dominant arm with a different activity, but it is less effective than tennis.
Frame shock-induced bone density?
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
This is why I do not use a dampener.
Bare leather unless it is hot and humid.

Acrually, that's not the reason, but apparently a side benefit?
String dampers / dampeners will somewhat reduce string vibrations delivered to the arm but they do not reduce frame shock.

 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
I used to think I broke my clavicle when I was a kid bc there is a huge bulge at the end

But a few years ago I realized that my right elbow is also bigger than the left. And my freaking RIBS are bigger on my right side.
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
I used to think I broke my clavicle when I was a kid bc there is a huge bulge at the end

But a few years ago I realized that my right elbow is also bigger than the left. And my freaking RIBS are bigger on my right side.
Any other noticeable differences between left and right side?

e.g. right vs left calf / quad / foot / ear / etc.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
Any other noticeable differences between left and right side?

e.g. right vs left calf / quad / foot / ear / etc.

You mean visually like something that's obvious to the eye, or just capabilities-wise? (eg dominant eye)

Not much that I was born with. My feet are the same length but different widths. That caused a lot of problems this year

Ok wait. There are some asymmetries. Right (dominant) pec, trapezius, and lats are all smaller. My right trap didn't "come in" until much later than my left in childhood, and I still have problems firing it sometimes.
 
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SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
Is there a maximum size allowed for a dampener?
I don't believe there is a max size. The long worm dampeners (usually rubber or gel-filled) are somewhat larger, more massive than simple dampeners.

As long as the damper / dampener does not encroach the normal playing area -- that is, it remains outside the stringbed. It must be below the bottom string, above the top string or outside the edge strings on both sides.

If desired, you could put a string dampers in all 4 areas. And you could put multiple string dampers in any or all of those areas.

The issue with too much string damping is that it will make your strings feel very dead. And it will mute or deaden the sound of your ball contacts too much. Most players find that they prefer some amount of tactile and auditory feedback rather than a muted / soft feedback.

A string damper typically weighs only 2-3 grams or so. This is not enough mass, not even close, to affect frame shock. Rather than using a lot of string dampener mass to reduce frame shock, it would be better to add some metallic weight (like Pb) to the frame or inside the handle (foam or Pb weight)
 

johnmccabe

Hall of Fame
I used to think I broke my clavicle when I was a kid bc there is a huge bulge at the end

But a few years ago I realized that my right elbow is also bigger than the left. And my freaking RIBS are bigger on my right side.
Ribs???!!? It can't be because of tennis, lol
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
You mean visually like something that's obvious to the eye, or just capabilities-wise? (eg dominant eye)

Not much that I was born with. My feet are the same length but different widths. That caused a lot of problems this year

Ok wait. There are some asymmetries. Right (dominant) pec, trapezius, and lats are all smaller. My right trap didn't "come in" until much later than my left in childhood, and I still have problems firing it sometimes.
You're right-handed but some of the muscles on your right side are smaller? The opposite of what I would have expected.

Are the smaller right side muscles stronger or weaker than their left side counterparts?
 

johnmccabe

Hall of Fame
Have you examined them?
Dude you often comes out with attitude without evidence. I think the rib thing is unlikely in rec players and I'm open minded. But if you don't know any solid examples and keep coming across as rhetorically talking down on people, I'm not interested in what you think anymore.
 

SystemicAnomaly

Bionic Poster
I used to think I broke my clavicle when I was a kid bc there is a huge bulge at the end

But a few years ago I realized that my right elbow is also bigger than the left. And my freaking RIBS are bigger on my right side.
Uneven rib cage as an overuse injury or accommodation? Sure it’s not a scoliosis or some other birth defect that was mild in your youth but has manifested or worsened with age?

I’ve had an obvious scoliosis since my mid 60s. Apparently I was born with a scoliosis but it was so mild when I was younger, it was never detected or diagnosed until recently

 

LOBALOT

Legend
In my opinion the unilateral aspect of the tennis is the only weakness of the sport compared to other activity especially for older players:

- You get the benefit of exercise with enticement of being fun.
- You get the social aspects of the sport which is important as we age.
- You get competition if that is what you are into.

I do however feel my right arm is much stronger than my left and my one side or the other tend to get banged up/sore (Right Shoulder, left hip, this type of thing).

Supplementing tennis with a periodic gym workouts helps to balance this out (Which I should do more of!).
 

Bambooman

Legend
Dude you often comes out with attitude without evidence. I think the rib thing is unlikely in rec players and I'm open minded. But if you don't know any solid examples and keep coming across as rhetorically talking down on people, I'm not interested in what you think anymore.
Cool. That's exactly the way you come across. The dude just gave you an example. My ribs are bigger on one side too.
 

Rosstour

G.O.A.T.
You're right-handed but some of the muscles on your right side are smaller? The opposite of what I would have expected.

Are the smaller right side muscles stronger or weaker than their left side counterparts?

They're much weaker now after a series of injuries to the upper arm and shoulder, but they were weaker before.

I have this theory that our weaker side is actually our stronger side which is why we use it to brace/plant. Our "stronger" side is actually weaker but more coordinated. Just my weird idea

When I was a kid playing a lot the forearm was bigger on the right but not anymore
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
They're much weaker now after a series of injuries to the upper arm and shoulder, but they were weaker before.

I have this theory that our weaker side is actually our stronger side which is why we use it to brace/plant. Our "stronger" side is actually weaker but more coordinated. Just my weird idea

When I was a kid playing a lot the forearm was bigger on the right but not anymore
I'm righthanded and my right side is noticeably stronger. (eg on my right side I can do more 1-arm pushups and 1-legged pistol squats, dumbell presses, etc)

I go to the gym to keep the strength difference smaller.
 

LOBALOT

Legend
I'm righthanded and my right side is noticeably stronger. (eg on my right side I can do more 1-arm pushups and 1-legged pistol squats, dumbell presses, etc)

I go to the gym to keep the strength difference smaller.

I am not nearly at that strength level but while I do demonstrate quite good ambidextrous skills while drinking post-match beer I am noticeably better at it with the right side of my body.
 

onehandbh

G.O.A.T.
I am not nearly at that strength level but while I do demonstrate quite good ambidextrous skills while drinking post-match beer I am noticeably better at it with the right side of my body.
I am not particularly strong. These are bodyweight exercises, and I don't weigh very much, so they are easier for me than they are for most other people.
 
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