Highest level of Big 3 in a slam match they LOST?

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
What is the highest level of a Big 3 titan in a slam match they lost?

Candidates for each:

Fed: FO 2011 final (really think he had a shot. Missed drop shot on set point in first set that could have changed match).
USO 2011 Fed’s level really high here as well.
Other candidates: AO SF 2005, Wimbledon USO F 2009, Wimbledon F 2019


Nadal
Wimbledon 2007
USO 2011?
AO 2012

Djokovic
FO 2013 SF
What else?
 

Towny

Hall of Fame
Looking at each slam individually:

Federer
AO 2005 - Safin
RG 2007 - Nadal
Wim 2008 - Nadal
USO 2009 - Del Potro

Nadal
AO 2012 - Djokovic
RG 2009 - Soderling
Wim 2007 - Federer
USO 2011 - Djokovic

Djokovic
AO 2014 - Wawrinka
RG 2013 - Nadal
Wim 2012 - Federer
USO 2010 - Nadal

Several of these are pretty debatable but this is what I would land with off the top of my head.
 
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Deleted member 758560

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Wimbledon 2018 SF for Nadal

Roland Garros 2013 SF for Djokovic

Wimbledon 2019 F on par with AO 2009 F for Federer
все что касается феденьки тут начинается полный беспредел:-Dвидно что такой океан у тея внутри бурлит, заметно, остальные варианты отличные, но вот федюнька как красная тряпка, кстати что не спишь юграм?, так просто к слову, у вас во франции уже далеко за полночь, я тоже че то не сплю, затягивает этот форум, 4 часа уже, ты не из парижа случаем?:D
 

Yugram

Legend
все что касается феденьки тут начинается полный беспредел:-Dвидно что такой океан у тея внутри бурлит, заметно, остальные варианты отличные, но вот федюнька как красная тряпка, кстати что не спишь юграм?, так просто к слову, у вас во франции уже далеко за полночь, я тоже че то не сплю, затягивает этот форум, 4 часа уже, ты не из парижа случаем?:D
Ну а какие по уставу партии правильные варианты? :) В космический уровень матча с Сафиным я не особо верю, Уим 2008-го вообще матч в полуинвалидном состоянии, если верить фанатам маэстро. Но я вообще не большой любитель конвенциональных мнений в теннисе. А странные часы сна для меня привычное дело, так что business as usual.;)
 
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Deleted member 758560

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Ну а какие по уставу партии правильные варианты? :) В космический уровень матча с Сафиным я не особо верю, Уим 2008-го вообще матч в полуинвалидном состоянии, если верить фанатам маэстро. Но я вообще не большой любитель конвенциональных мнений в теннисе. А странные часы сна для меня привычное дело, так что business as usual.;)
бизнес вне расписания соглашусь отличная вещь, ну про 09 мельбурн еще можно представить,но то что в 19 году твой вариант это ни в какие ворота наверняка,:D да какая партия брось, уже давно не союз, просто ушлепок засел и не хочет уходить, не знаю может уже чокнулся окончательно, думаешь все тут его обожают и хотят чтобы он сидел, нет конечно, я тоже, просто народ глупый в основной массе, верит то что по ящику говорят. особенно старшее поколение, ну и прикармливает сильно свою банду, ментам огромные зарплаты и военным сделал сучара чтобы как сыр в масле катались и не поднимали голоса и близко, все понятно тут:D
 

StrongRule

Talk Tennis Guru
For Fed, that’s probably the AO match with Safin. Then maybe AO 2009 but the poor fifth set really brings it down. Wimbledon 2008 in the mix as well.

For Ned, I don’t know if you can nominate anything but the AO 2012 final.

For Djokovic, it gets a bit hazy but I might go with that 2014 AO QF with Wawrinka.
It's beyond me how one can mention AO 2012 but not Wimbledon 2018.

In AO 2012 Nadal hit 44 winners and 71 unforced errors. The second and third set were total blowouts, and the match should have ended in 4.
 
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mike danny

Bionic Poster
USO 2011 for Nadal is overrated. Nadal served poorly and was breadsticked by an injured Djokovic.

And it's overrated only because of that 3rd set that should have ended at 6-3 or 6-4 anyway.
 

tudwell

G.O.A.T.
Looking at each slam individually:

Federer
AO 2005 - Safin
RG 2007 - Nadal
Wim 2008 - Nadal
USO 2009 - Del Potro

Nadal
AO 2012 - Djokovic
RG 2009 - Soderling
Wim 2007 - Federer
USO 2011 - Djokovic

Djokovic
AO 2014 - Wawrinka
RG 2013 - Nadal
Wim 2012 - Federer
USO 2010 - Nadal

Several of these are pretty debatable but this is what I would land with off the top of my head.
I punched this into my calcLEWlator and these are the results I got:

Federer
AO 2016 - Djokovic
RG 2012 - Djokovic
Wim 2015 - Djokovic
USO 2015 - Djokovic

Nadal
AO 2019 - Djokovic
RG 2015 - Djokovic
Wim 2018 - Djokovic
USO 2011 - Djokovic
 
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Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
Looking at each slam individually:

Federer
AO 2005 - Safin
RG 2007 - Nadal
Wim 2008 - Nadal
USO 2009 - Del Potro

Nadal
AO 2012 - Djokovic
RG 2009 - Soderling
Wim 2007 - Federer
USO 2011 - Djokovic

Djokovic
AO 2014 - Wawrinka
RG 2013 - Nadal
Wim 2012 - Federer
USO 2010 - Nadal

Several of these are pretty debatable but this is what I would land with off the top of my head.
Haha I was going to question the Söderling match as a high level but there’s only one other option to choose from in 15 years! So absurd is Rafa’s dominance there!
 

Nadalgaenger

G.O.A.T.
For Fed, that’s probably the AO match with Safin. Then maybe AO 2009 but the poor fifth set really brings it down. Wimbledon 2008 in the mix as well.

For Ned, I don’t know if you can nominate anything but the AO 2012 final.

For Djokovic, it gets a bit hazy but I might go with that 2014 AO QF with Wawrinka.
Why not Wimbledon 2007? Arguably as high or higher a level as in 2008. Fed was much stronger mentally in 2007, had his grass mojo.
 

BackhandDTL

Hall of Fame
The Stan match was a classic. Not as good as the 2013 match but still great. So disagree respectfully that Djokovic wasn’t good in AO 14.
ahahah. I can clearly tell you didn’t watch the match.

Novak played well in patches but was clearly not very good overall. AO 2013 Stan was better and still lost because Djokovic was much better.

Nadal dispatched peak Djokovic in 4 in the 2012 final. It’s not even comparable to the AO 14 match.
 

RS

Bionic Poster
ahahah. I can clearly tell you didn’t watch the match.

Novak played well in patches but was clearly not very good overall. AO 2013 Stan was better and still lost because Djokovic was much better.

Nadal dispatched peak Djokovic in 4 in the 2012 final. It’s not even comparable to the AO 14 match.
Since you keep moaning about my choice for nothing i will add in RG 12 as a sidemention. More like you have got to be the one of the few legit fans who think AO 14 was not a quality match.
 

BackhandDTL

Hall of Fame
Since you keep moaning about my choice for nothing i will add in RG 12 as a sidemention. More like you have got to be the one of the few legit fans who think AO 14 was not a quality match.
It was a good match but AO 13 was way better because both players were playing better.
 

ForehandCross

G.O.A.T.
ahahah. I can clearly tell you didn’t watch the match.

Novak played well in patches but was clearly not very good overall. AO 2013 Stan was better and still lost because Djokovic was much better.

Nadal dispatched peak Djokovic in 4 in the 2012 final. It’s not even comparable to the AO 14 match.

AO 2013, Wawrinka was the shade better player tbh. I think he had outplayed one of the best Novaks at AO, and is the only man to do that .

But he hadn't completely got the completing the task part figured out.

He let Djokovic back in quite a lot,even in rallies.

2014 is way way less spectacular match.



2015 just stinks. Novak wasn't Novak and Stan wasn't Stan that day.
 

Cabeza del Demonio

Professional
What is the highest level of a Big 3 titan in a slam match they lost?

Candidates for each:

Fed: FO 2011 final (really think he had a shot. Missed drop shot on set point in first set that could have changed match).
USO 2011 Fed’s level really high here as well.
Other candidates: AO SF 2005, Wimbledon USO F 2009, Wimbledon F 2019


Nadal
Wimbledon 2007
USO 2011?
AO 2012

Djokovic
FO 2013 SF
What else?
Djokovic in the 2012 French Open final. He was playing near his 2011 level and blew Nadal off the court for much of the last 2 sets. Yet Nadal still handled him fairly comfortably. That match speaks more to Nadal's clay-court dominance than any beatdown of Ferrer or Almagro.
 

AnOctorokForDinner

Talk Tennis Guru
Considering peaks, RG 12 is peak Doublefaultovic at best. Disgusting mental midgetry. Exquisite chokeovic for disgustdullards' enjoyment, 6-1 streak etc.
 

Bamoos

Semi-Pro
Federer
AO - 05
RG - 06
W - 08
USO - 09

Nadal
AO - 12
RG - 09
W - 07
USO - 11

Djokovic
AO - 14
RG - 13
W - 12
USO - 08
 

Bamoos

Semi-Pro
I punched this into my calcLEWlator and these are the results I got:

Federer
AO 2016 - Djokovic
RG 2012 - Djokovic
Wim 2015 - Djokovic
USO 2015 - Djokovic

Nadal
AO 2019 - Djokovic
RG 2015 - Djokovic
Wim 2018 - Djokovic
USO 2011 - Djokovic
2015 Federer sets won minus losses to Djokovic - 61/62
 

Bamoos

Semi-Pro
AO 2013, Wawrinka was the shade better player tbh. I think he had outplayed one of the best Novaks at AO, and is the only man to do that .

But he hadn't completely got the completing the task part figured out.

He let Djokovic back in quite a lot,even in rallies.

2014 is way way less spectacular match.



2015 just stinks. Novak wasn't Novak and Stan wasn't Stan that day.
Yeah shame Novak had to cheat to get the win. Another mark against his GOAT claim.
 

Enceladus

Legend
Yeah shame Novak had to cheat to get the win. Another mark against his GOAT claim.
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Standaa

G.O.A.T.
Looking at each slam individually:

Federer
AO 2005 - Safin
RG 2007 - Nadal
Wim 2008 - Nadal
USO 2009 - Del Potro

Nadal
AO 2012 - Djokovic
RG 2009 - Soderling
Wim 2007 - Federer
USO 2011 - Djokovic

Djokovic
AO 2014 - Wawrinka
RG 2013 - Nadal
Wim 2012 - Federer
USO 2010 - Nadal

Several of these are pretty debatable but this is what I would land with off the top of my head.

I was gonna grill you because Nadal played pretty bad in that Soderling match and then I realized you only have two options to choose from
 

abmk

Bionic Poster
I agree with these exactly, but would toss in Nadal 2018 Wimbledon and Djokovic FO 2011 as well.

Nadal was impressive in several ways in Wim 18 semi, but not sharp enough returning and loss of footspeed compared to peak/prime level. I'd put AO 2012 2nd level wise, even though Wim 18 was far more exciting.

FO 2011 is a contender of 2nd spot for Djokovic.
 
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