How common is this? I see Federer does it. What are the benefits vs. completely flat.
If I hit an overhead behind the baseline, I either hit it flat DTL or slice cross-court. I think the reasons for the slice are fairly obvious.
When you go DTL, what % of max power do you use?
I'm just trying to get it flat and on the right corner. Let's just say that the days of the overhead smash are gone
If I'm feeling good, I'll go maybe 90%.
Most of the time, it'll probably be around 60-70%.
How common is this? I see Federer does it. What are the benefits vs. completely flat.
Make it topspin-slice, and I'm there with you. The deeper I take the OH, the more it becomes like a spin serve.The further away from the net I am, the more likely I will use slice and the more slice I will use. I typically will attempt an OH even from behind the BL if I can set up in time. I rarely go 100% flat and neither do I try to hit a winner. I'm trying to hit a good shot that pressures my opponent and will allow me to get back up to the net.
Benefits are higher accuracy and lower risk. Drawback is that it's not as offensive but like I wrote above, my goal of that shot is not to win the point outright.
Its one of the ways fed shows his skill over the others.Its hard enough to center the ball let alone give it some slice .
Its a very high end shot and would not recomend to anyone coz plenty can go wrong and even most pros dont do it.
Other then that its normal if you let it drop on the flor first then its not hard at all and migh be good idea.
The ball is 10x higher or more then serve toss.I'm not sure slicing an OH is any more difficult than hitting it flat. I'm assuming the striker has experience with both while serving so that translates to the OH.
And, as @SystemicAnomaly points out, adding TS increases the margin [I think people are capable of doing this; they just don't think of doing it because in their mind, an OH is a completely different shot than a serve].
The ball is 10x higher or more then serve toss.
So framing is very common on OH flat shot let alone on slice were you need to brush the ball and center with a tougher frame angle from 10 metars in the air .
Its one of the ways fed shows his skill over the others.Its hard enough to center the ball let alone give it some slice .
Its a very high end shot and would not recomend to anyone coz plenty can go wrong and even most pros dont do it.
Other then that its normal if you let it drop on the flor first then its not hard at all and migh be good idea.
NonsenseIts one of the ways fed shows his skill over the others.Its hard enough to center the ball let alone give it some slice .
Its a very high end shot and would not recomend to anyone coz plenty can go wrong and even most pros dont do it.
Nonsense
Anyone over 3.5 level can slice an overhead
right.
and any 3.5 can hit harder than Nadal
any time i'm out of balance, or behind the service line, i spin my overhead, and use it as an approach shot.
if it's behind me but for some reason can't do/time the scissor thing, i'll hit a topspin overhead
If you hit slow then its easy but not more effective.Nonsense
Anyone over 3.5 level can slice an overhead
If you hit slow then its easy but not more effective.
Only in case of defensive oh which is impossible to hit flat anyway.I'll add slice on the OH not to be more effective but to raise the margin of error [which, indirectly, is making the OH more effective in a big picture sense].
Only in case of defensive oh which is impossible to hit flat anyway.
Same for tactical oh from base line which is hit just to stay in point and as such needs slice.
But there is a margin on normal oh and its very bad on slice one.
Its a far stretch to call it effective its use last option that you have.
I think a slice overhead is an useful shot to have particularly in doubles. It is easier to hit angles into the doubles alleys if you add some slice and take advantage of the wider court. Also, with two opponents covering the court, there are less open spaces on the court and against 4.5+ players, you have to be precise with location to put mid-court smashes away.
In singles, there is a lot more open space to smash flat winners into open space without going for extreme angles.
I think a slice overhead is an useful shot to have particularly in doubles. It is easier to hit angles into the doubles alleys if you add some slice and take advantage of the wider court. Also, with two opponents covering the court, there are less open spaces on the court and against 4.5+ players, you have to be precise with location to put mid-court smashes away.