Hitting the wide spots on serve

HuusHould

Professional
Just wondering what the key technically is to hitting the Federer flat serve 2/3 of the way up the ad court service line? I tend to miss into the doubles alley or get unintended slice on the serve. Also the slider to the deuce court, some people can hit this one halfway up the service line with plenty of swing, I tend to either not get the break, or I get the swing but hit the service line (the one parallel to the baseline not the sideline) 2/3 of the way to the singles sideline. (So nowhere near as short or wide as intended). Also the angled kicker to the ad court. Occasionally I'll land it short and wide and get the intended break, other times it goes into the doubles alley or has unintended slice and goes long. Just after any ideas on how to control spin (and swing) and direction on the serve!? Cheers.
 

Pete Player

Hall of Fame
Not sure, but by, what you’re saying, your rhs drops, when you try that short and wide one.


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Pete Player

Hall of Fame
For the wide ad kicker I swing as hard as I can and then dial it in. As long as my top speed doesn't change no need to adjust
You must be talking about racket head topspeed.


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Pete Player

Hall of Fame
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In addition, you might want to take your stance a couple feet more to the side off the hash mark for two reasons.

1) You are already little more onthe cc side of things, if opp is able to get his racket in between, and

2) it allows more net clearance, cause the point, where the ball would intersect with the net is closer to the lower center strap.

But be aware, if he’s talented. There may be a low drive slice return on your forehand corner (righthander returner). You cannot rely on him not getting it back, so get ready to dash onto your fh corner.

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Pete Player

Hall of Fame
Yes not trying for fastest ball but most spin.
Keep up with your rythm and tempo, just add the spin on the ball, ie. do not try to hit it any slower, but work on the contact point and path direction.


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golden chicken

Hall of Fame
When I was learning, I tried to hit the same serve every time and adjusted my feet (starting position angle/aim) to change the placement.
 

StringSnapper

Hall of Fame
Swing hard but make little contact with the ball (light brush) with lots of side spin and a bit of top

Easier said than done!

I think just do it on your dominant side (deuce for righty, ad for lefty)
 

HuusHould

Professional
The key for me with the kicker I found is tossing it well behind my head (10.30 to 11 O'clock) and only just inside the baseline, then even though the balls not far into court, still launching myself into court as I rip across the back of the ball.
 

FiReFTW

Legend
Like all shots, you control the direction by imagining where ur going to hit the ball and the arc it will have.
Your body will do all the rest automatically to adjust for that.
 
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