Holger rune's book

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“This book gives a picture of my world since I was a junior. It's not really an autobiography, I'll wait until I've won a Grand Slam, ha ha. »


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Vil du spise morgenmad som Holger Rune? Så skal du forberede det aftenen forinden

Holger Rune er ubestridt Danmarks største tennisstjerne. Han begyndte at spille tennis som seksårig i Skovshoved Tennisklub, og i dag er han den højest rangerede danske mand på ATP-ranglisten. Netop nu er han aktuel med en ny bog, som han har skrevet sammen med Peter Christensen og udgivet på...
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People are so ridiculously hard on the guy. Jesus, he’s 21. He’s arguably accomplished more at his age than Sinner had (realistically they’d accomplished the same amount).

Has he underperformed relative to his hype? Yes, but that’s not a reason to tear into the guy like he’s wasted a 15 year career. Is he perhaps a little arrogant? Yes, but how much can you blame him? He’s the most googled-human being in his home country, they adore him. I don’t think he’s done anything truly abhorrent, he’s just somewhat cocky. If a book company reached out to you when you were 21 to be in a children’s book, promising you money just to use your name and likeness, would you all really have said no?

He has a lot of stuff to figure out on court. But give him some time. In 5 years, if he’s still massively underperforming, then by all means rip into the guy and deem him a failure.
 
bw114 said:
People are so ridiculously hard on the guy. Jesus, he’s 21. He’s arguably accomplished more at his age than Sinner had (realistically they’d accomplished the same amount).

Has he underperformed relative to his hype? Yes, but that’s not a reason to tear into the guy like he’s wasted a 15 year career. Is he perhaps a little arrogant? Yes, but how much can you blame him? He’s the most googled-human being in his home country, they adore him. He’s just embracing I don’t think he’s done anything truly abhorrent, he’s just somewhat cocky. If a book company reached out to you when you were 21 to be in a children’s book, promising you money just to use your name and likeness, would you all really have said no?

He has a lot of stuff to figure out on court. But give him some time. In 5 years, if he’s still massively underperforming, then by all means rip into the guy and deem him a failure.
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No we need to be very hard on him

Everything is going wrong. Coaches don't want to work with him.

R1 loss in USOpen now. And even that was without much fight.

Yes if he had humility of David Ferrer, then we would feel sorry but right now us being angry is justified. He is a brat without long term accomplishment.

2022 was year of promise

2023 was what could have been. He was in 2 masters finals in 2022 on clay

And 2024 is a year where he is coming off as a clown. He is becoming next Zverev even if he is just 21.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
No we need to be very hard on him

Everything is going wrong. Coaches don't want to work with him.

R1 loss in USOpen now. And even that was without much fight.

Yes if he had humility of David Ferrer, then we would feel sorry but right now us being angry is justified. He is a brat without long term accomplishment.

2022 was year of promise

2023 was what could have been. He was in 2 masters finals in 2022 on clay

And 2024 is a year where he is coming off as a clown. He is becoming next Zverev even if he is just 21.
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The tennis world is so quick to rip into people if they don’t achieve immediate success.

If you were around in 2007, you’d probably have been one of the people ripping into Djokovic for his retirements/physical issues, cockiness (saying that his RG match vs Nadal was on his racket), and called him a brat, too.
 
Even in 2023 people were considerate. We thought Boris joining his team would make him more stable.

Boris wanted nothing to do with this guy. He ran away.
 
Lleytonstation said:
Rune and Ruud should write a book together called "We might be Mugs, but we are not ready to be washed"
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To compare Rune with Ruud is an insult to objectivity.

Ruud has been #2; made 3 Slam finals, has a powerful forehand, good mobility, and, most importantly, has one of the most likeable personalities on tour.

Rune is a joke with 0 weeks spent at #2, 0 Slam finals, 0 weapons in his game, and an arrogant attitude.
 
bw114 said:
The tennis world is so quick to rip into people if they don’t achieve immediate success.

If you were around in 2007, you’d probably have been one of the people ripping into Djokovic for his retirements/physical issues, cockiness (saying that his RG match vs Nadal was on his racket), and called him a brat, too.
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No way

Everytime people give 2 scares in tennis
1. Djokovic in 2009/10

2. Wawrinka till 2014.

These are scare tactics. Djokovic was still in top 4. He was getting to many finals and losing. He was competing with Fed and beating Nadal on hard courts in straights. He was part of new era of players winning vs each other Djokovic/Nadal/Murray/Delpo.

Wawrinka is just a freak and if Fed was at his peak maybe Wawa would be stopped at 1 grand slam instead of 3 so I won't worry about wawa.

These are exceptions. Do not get worried due to few exceptions. Go hard vs him.
 
Sport said:
To compare Rune with Ruud is an insult to objectivity.

Ruud has been #2; made 3 Slam finals, has a powerful forehand, good mobility, and, most importantly, has one of the most likeable personalities on tour.

Rune is a joke with 0 weeks spent at #2, 0 Slam finals, 0 weapons in his game, and an arrogant attitude.
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100%
I was about to make the point myself.

Ruud is far more accomplished and has a good personality.
 
bw114 said:
Has he underperformed relative to his hype?
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Reason 1.
bw114 said:
Is he perhaps a little arrogant?
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Reason 2.
bw114 said:
he’s just somewhat cocky
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Reason 3.
bw114 said:
would you all really have said no?
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Yes, if I was good I would trust I would be successful and not need a crappy book deal. I also would not sell myself with the backing of a poor quality book.
bw114 said:
But give him some time.
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lol, most laughable quote on TTW. Giving people time has not worked well in tennis.
 
Sport said:
To compare Rune with Ruud is an insult to objectivity.

Ruud has been #2; made 3 Slam finals, has a powerful forehand, good mobility, and, most importantly, has one of the most likeable personalities on tour.

Rune is a joke with 0 weeks spent at #2, 0 Slam finals, 0 weapons in his game, and an arrogant attitude.
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Fair, but their names are just too similar and while Ruud has been decently successful, he has been very lucky to have the career he has had. He has overachieved big time.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
No way

Everytime people give 2 scares in tennis
1. Djokovic in 2009/10

2. Wawrinka till 2014.

These are scare tactics. Djokovic was still in top 4. He was getting to many finals and losing. He was competing with Fed and beating Nadal on hard courts in straights. He was part of new era of players winning vs each other Djokovic/Nadal/Murray/Delpo.

Wawrinka is just a freak and if Fed was at his peak maybe Wawa would be stopped at 1 grand slam instead of 3 so I won't worry about wawa.

These are exceptions. Do not get worried due to few exceptions. Go hard vs him.
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I said 2007, not 2009/10. By 2010 Djokovic was a slam winner and a fixture in the top 4.

Of course I don’t think Rune will find the success Novak did, but I’m saying it’s so disingenuous to rip into these young players while they are still figuring out who they are as tennis players and how to approach playing the most competitive sport in the world. He’s literally had the same career as Sinner did at his age, Sinner just had much less hype because he didn’t find success as early as Rune did
 
bw114 said:
I said 2007, not 2009/10. By 2010 Djokovic was a slam winner and a fixture in the top 4.

Of course I don’t think Rune will find the success Novak did, but I’m saying it’s so disingenuous to rip into these young players while they are still figuring out who they are as tennis players and how to approach playing the most competitive sport in the world. He’s literally had the same career as Sinner did at his age, Sinner just had much less hype because he didn’t find success as early as Rune did
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2007 Djokovic was 19 and 20.
He was so far ahead of where Rune is now that his cockiness can be 100 % justified.

We are very frustrated about this self hyped losers like Zverev and Rune. They deserve zero benefit of doubt.
 
Lleytonstation said:
Reason 1.

Reason 2.

Reason 3.

Yes, if I was good I would trust I would be successful and not need a crappy book deal. I also would not sell myself with the backing of a poor quality book.

lol, most laughable quote on TTW. Giving people time has not worked well in tennis.
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The way tennis fans look down on cockiness/arrogance is so misguided. Be mad at your boss for being arrogant and treating you like ****, because your boss isn’t anything special or extraordinary. But do you know the level of confidence you need to find success in sports, let alone a sport like tennis? Every great athlete—ever—has been such a delusional believer in themselves that it’s allowed them to actually achieve their goals. The Big3 are all really arrogant, but we don’t have an issue with it because they’ve backed it up.

His book is a “Where’s Waldo” spoof with a side bit about what his career’s been like so far, and I can guarantee he didn’t write a word of it. It’s a book for Danish children, he’s not trying to win a Pulitzer.

It is so disingenuous to say you wouldn’t sign a book deal if people came to you with one. You wouldn’t take any sponsorships then? You’re gonna jeopardize your and your family’s long term financial gain to live up to some weird code you have? All athletic careers have innate uncertainty because of injuries, it’s dumb to say you’re going to “rely on your success” for all your financial gain.
 
bw114 said:
People are so ridiculously hard on the guy. Jesus, he’s 21. He’s arguably accomplished more at his age than Sinner had (realistically they’d accomplished the same amount).

Has he underperformed relative to his hype? Yes, but that’s not a reason to tear into the guy like he’s wasted a 15 year career. Is he perhaps a little arrogant? Yes, but how much can you blame him? He’s the most googled-human being in his home country, they adore him. I don’t think he’s done anything truly abhorrent, he’s just somewhat cocky. If a book company reached out to you when you were 21 to be in a children’s book, promising you money just to use your name and likeness, would you all really have said no?

He has a lot of stuff to figure out on court. But give him some time. In 5 years, if he’s still massively underperforming, then by all means rip into the guy and deem him a failure.
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Despite a poor season for him, he still made SF in Cincinnati and nearly got to the finals. It’s just the USO R1 loss that is overshadowing this recent result. People are so harsh on him because he is a bit arrogant, but he is only 21…He may be Alcaraz’s peer and slamless, but that does not equate to failure.
 
placebo said:
Despite a poor season for him, he still made SF in Cincinnati and nearly got to the finals. It’s just the USO R1 loss that is overshadowing this recent result. People are so harsh on him because he is a bit arrogant, but he is only 21…He may be Alcaraz’s peer and slamless, but that does not equate to failure.
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How much would you bet he won't reach a slam final in 2025?
 
Don't look at JUST the age. Look at entire thing.

Is the game improving enough ? No

Do you see champions mentality? No

Is he creating a good team of coaches who will help build on weaknesses ? I don't even know if a coach will want to be with him.
 
nolefam_2024 said:
How much would you bet he won't reach a slam final in 2025?
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You keep on missing the point. We are not claiming he is going to win a slam. The point is that you all come down on him like a ton of bricks as if he’s been some perennial failure for the last 12 years, when in reality he’s not even done with the third real season of his pro career
 
bw114 said:
You keep on missing the point. We are not claiming he is going to win a slam. The point is that you all come down on him like a ton of bricks as if he’s been some perennial failure for the last 12 years, when in reality he’s not even done with the third real season of his pro career
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I am not going to back off at all here. He is becoming another zverev

world does not need such at all.
 
bw114 said:
You keep on missing the point. We are not claiming he is going to win a slam. The point is that you all come down on him like a ton of bricks as if he’s been some perennial failure for the last 12 years, when in reality he’s not even done with the third real season of his pro career
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The guy makes millions and acts like a fool and is not worthy of any of it. So yeah, I dont like him lol.
 
Spend more time improving your game and winning than a book. This is not the first or second step of what any great player has done.
 
I think he's a talented player and still has potential but he's got to get the coach thing sorted out and mature a little. It's odd timing for a book but as someone mentioned, he's revered in Denmark so maybe it will do well there.
 
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