'Honestly I don't miss Nadal being in the draw...I don't like seeing him in the draw of RG to be honest'

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
I've had not so much success against him in our H2H in Roland-Garros - I've managed to beat him twice, but I had to leave my heart and my guts out on the court to achieve that' I know how hard it is to play him anywhere around the world, but especially here8-B
That's where some Nolefams and Novak differ. I would much prefer Djokovic beating Nadal at RG than actually winning RG.
 

merwy

G.O.A.T.
Wasn't there another interview with Djokovic where an interviewer asked him a question starting with (paraphrasing) "I know you must not like that Nadal is missing from the draw. Because you're the type of person who feels like he should be able to beat everyone, including Nadal, to really deserve the title.."?
 

Terenigma

G.O.A.T.
I don't miss him either, Nadal brings little to Roland Garros other than a 95% chance of a title for his fans and they are the ones who miss him. There is little to no excitement for the rest of the tournament or viewers because only for the match he plays vs Djokovic or a chance of an upset. Now with him gone, yeah Djokovic becomes the obvious favourite but he's getting old too, has a possible elbow injury and has looked garbage on clay so far this year.

All of that ^ means there is a chance we could get some great matches, players who are fighting for a shot at the title because there has never been a better time and there is a handful of players that could do that this year. I think we could get some real thrillers in QF/SF this year and memorable matches!
 

Zardoz7/12

Hall of Fame
Novak acknowledging his tribal chief :D
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MichaelNadal

Bionic Poster
Sounds honest echoing this Rafa comment

The other comment he made saying Rafa's announcement made him feel a part of him was leaving with him also felt an echo of what Rafa said about Fed leaving 8-B
Greatest era in tennis history :D 3 legends playing at the same time. I can imagine 50 years from now lol “Player X would drag weak era Nadal on Chatrier” :alien:
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Not so sure how Federer is important to this and how the H2H against one particular player is deciding in the comparison between Fed and Novak.
Because Rafa is clay goat. Everything matters vs Rafa on clay when comparing fed and Nole. They are equal footing everywhere except on clay and vs Rafa.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Wilander is a big fan of Novak and Rafa and he doesn't like Federer.
I think he likes clay courters a lot, he was a big fan of Nadal even back in 2005 and he was bashing Federer in 2006 period.
Great proving Novak is among great clay courters and Roger is not.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
So dislike of Fed (or besting him) comes before #23? It's always interesting to see the mindset of fandom. It's always unique and individual.
Yes. Because I don't believe in absolute numbers. There is difficulty of draw as well. And Novak had much more difficult draws than fed overall.

Plus 23 is something to equalize Nadal ? Nadal has 10 things lacking in his resume that makes him lesser than Nole.

Actual competition is between Fed and Nole.
 

LaVie en Rose

Hall of Fame
Because Rafa is clay goat. Everything matters vs Rafa on clay when comparing fed and Nole. They are equal footing everywhere except on clay and vs Rafa.
There is nothing left for Novak to prove (comparing his career with RF ) on clay.
2RG,11 masters that consist from all 3 (MC, Madrid, Rome), higher w/l %
And there is no surface goat , but best /most accomplished surface player, GOAT can be only one in tennis
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
There is nothing left for Novak to prove (comparing his career with RF ) on clay.
2RG,11 masters that consist from all 3 (MC, Madrid, Rome), higher w/l %
And there is no surface goat , but best /most accomplished surface player, GOAT can be only one in tennis
How is there never a surface goat. Rafa is not a goat but you will have to admit he is clay goat.
 

BorgTheGOAT

Legend
Yes. Because I don't believe in absolute numbers. There is difficulty of draw as well. And Novak had much more difficult draws than fed overall.

Plus 23 is something to equalize Nadal ? Nadal has 10 things lacking in his resume that makes him lesser than Nole.

Actual competition is between Fed and Nole.
Djokovic is also ahead of Federer in next to everything. When solely going by stats neither Fed nor Nadal can best Djokovic.
 
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Deleted member 629564

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Djokovic is fully entitled to express his point of view:

The French Open is much more important than any player. If he's playing, finally, OK. If he's not playing, the French Open will be a great French Open, with or without him.
 

BorgTheGOAT

Legend
Yes but if we remove clay they are so similar.
If I had a penny for every time I read “outside clay” or “remove clay” here on TTW. Anywho they are close on clay as well. Remove it and Novak is still ahead in slams, masters, H2H, weeks at No.1, YE #1. Stats wise Novak is the most successful, other things can be debated.
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
If I had a penny for every time I read “outside clay” or “remove clay” here on TTW. Anywho they are close on clay as well. Remove it and Novak is still ahead in slams, masters, H2H, weeks at No.1, YE #1. Stats wise Novak is the most successful, other things can be debated.
Novak with 1 more rg would be much more ahead. Let's hope he gets it.
 

BeatlesFan

Bionic Poster
With all due respect to Roger, in what world is Novak still chasing Roger...except for Wimby titles?
Well, let's answer these questions.

Does Novak have 104 career titles to surpass Fed?
Does he have 6 USO's to surpass Fed?
Does he have 7 YEC's to surpass Fed?
Has he won three of the four slams 5+ times?
Has he won two slams five times in a row?


Novak does not hold all the tennis records.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Djokovic is fully entitled to express his point of view:

The French Open is much more important than any player. If he's playing, finally, OK. If he's not playing, the French Open will be a great French Open, with or without him.
I wonder why Djoko fanatics have been furious and created false stories about what Rafa said (posts ##65 and 69):

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...afas-announcement.750327/page-2#post-17351623

https://tt.tennis-warehouse.com/ind...afas-announcement.750327/page-2#post-17351631
 

RaulRamirez

Legend
Well, let's answer these questions.

Does Novak have 104 career titles to surpass Fed?
Does he have 6 USO's to surpass Fed?
Does he have 7 YEC's to surpass Fed?
Has he won three of the four slams 5+ times?
Has he won two slams five times in a row?


Novak does not hold all the tennis records.
Good point, and my own point wasn't to diminish what Fed has accomplished. I think you know how much I respect and admire him.

But in my reply to NN, it just seemed ludicrous for him to rather have Novak beat Rafa then win another RG, and bringing Fed into the picture.
Let's face it, each of the three will have amassed records that the others won't equal or surpass.
 

LaVie en Rose

Hall of Fame
Djokovic is fully entitled to express his point of view:

The French Open is much more important than any player. If he's playing, finally, OK. If he's not playing, the French Open will be a great French Open, with or without him.
Nadal is not physically able to play. Novak could have said , injuries are part of the sport as they ,are not my problem I have been injured too..
, but he was polite &respectful of Nadal past achievements &rised above Nadal's petty rules are rules comments
Well, let's answer these questions.h

Does Novak have 104 career titles to surpass Fed?
Does he have 6 USO's to surpass Fed?
Does he have 7 YEC's to surpass Fed?
Has he won three of the four slams 5+ times?
Has he won two slams five times in a row?


Novak does not hold all the tennis records.
Nothing you mentioned is important NOW :
 

nolefam_2024

Talk Tennis Guru
Well, let's answer these questions.

Does Novak have 104 career titles to surpass Fed?
Does he have 6 USO's to surpass Fed?
Does he have 7 YEC's to surpass Fed?
Has he won three of the four slams 5+ times?
Has he won two slams five times in a row?


Novak does not hold all the tennis records.
If he equals fed then it's enough. He doesn't need to surpass. 104 is 11 more than 93. Let's see.
 

octobrina10

Talk Tennis Guru
Nadal is not physically able to play. Novak could have said , injuries are part of the sport as they ,are not my problem I have been injured too..
, but he was polite &respectful of Nadal past achievements &rised above Nadal's petty rules are rules comments

Nothing you mentioned is important NOW :
Djokovic: "Honestly I don't miss [Nadal] being in the draw, you know?" (OP)

I wonder what's polite in Djoko's reply above. :unsure:
 
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Deleted member 629564

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Huh? What false stories?

"The AO is much more important than any player. If he's playing, finally, OK. If he's not playing, the AO will be a great AO, with or without him. That's my point of view."

Nadal said that about Djokovic in January 2022.
Word after word as I quoted above.
There's a video evidence.

See video in this article:
 
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