How can Nadal be in the GOAT discussion if...

...he can beat the apparent GOAT (Federer) so easily but can't beat Djokovic who himself can be beaten by the apparent GOAT? Chew on that Mary Carillo.
 
I actually deal with real facts.

Rafa Nadal has beaten Novak Djokovic of Serbia 16 times. Im not into this crap of Nole 2.0 or Rafa 3.5. What is Federer now? Fed 5.0?!

Yeah you're not into the crap because it's a fact. Djoker is a different player today. If you can't see that, you don't know what a fact is.
 
Yeah you're not into the crap because it's a fact. Djoker is a different player today. If you can't see that, you don't know what a fact is.

You do know that Djokovic is the same person though right? A much, better improved player but not a different person? Do you understand Rafa has indeed beaten Nole 16 times? The exact same Nole that beat him today?
 
You do know that Djokovic is the same person though right? A much, better improved player but not a different person? Do you understand Rafa has indeed beaten Nole 16 times? The exact same Nole that beat him today?
HAHAHA. Awesome stuff. It's funny because this might be too much for the OP's schizophrenic psyche to accept.
 
HAHAHA. Awesome stuff. It's funny because this might be too much for the OP's schizophrenic psyche to accept.

This Nole 2.0 business is ridiculous.

If Murray were to win US Open and beat Djokovic or Rafa do we call Murray 'Murray 2.0' and state that Nole or Rafa has never beaten Murray?? This is ridiculous stuff.
 
Better question is how can Nadal be considered to be the GOAT if he can't even beat the King on any surface while being 24/25 years old ie his prime year. Same age as Fed was in 2006. Fed beat Nadal in 2006 Wimbledon final. Fed never lost #1 rank in 2006. Thus Nadal is not a GOAT candidate. Nadal is not even close to being the best player while playing in his prime year let alone the best ever.
 
This Nole 2.0 business is ridiculous.

If Murray were to win US Open and beat Djokovic or Rafa do we call Murray 'Murray 2.0' and state that Nole or Rafa has never beaten Murray?? This is ridiculous stuff.
Yes, it really is. When Murray does that, then he can simply retire as the undefeated GOAT of the world.
 
can you really call someone the goat with this resume:
1 aussie
6 FO
2 SW19 3 runner up
1 US Open

0 WTF

and its only going to get worse from here with nadal getting older and body going down.
 
Hrbarty leads Nadal in the H2H.
Hrbarty is not a contender. Your utterly dumbed-down logic cannot understand the difference between a substantial H2H against a habitual oponent and a worthless anecdote (which is what the Hrbaty-Nadal H2H is.)

Nadal has won against Djoker in every surface, including in the final at the USO and in the Beijing 2008 Olympics.

You are a clown with an ugly avatar.
 
can you really call someone the goat with this resume:
1 aussie
6 FO
2 SW19 3 runner up
1 US Open

0 WTF

and its only going to get worse from here with nadal getting older and body going down.
No, calling Nadal the GOAT is stupid. But calling Novak the GOAT is not only stupid, it is just ********.
 
well... we all know that h2h is a terrible stain is resume, so if this continues, Nadal will be out of the goat equation in no time for having a losing h2h to another of his rivals!

a taste of own medicine for nadaletes
 
well... we all know that h2h is a terrible stain is resume, so if this continues, Nadal will be out of the goat equation in no time for having a losing h2h to another of his rivals!

a taste of own medicine for nadaletes

Is the H2H not 16 - 12? Or maybe its 5-0 as that was Nole 1.0 and now he is Nole 2.0?
 
well... we all know that h2h is a terrible stain is resume, so if this continues, Nadal will be out of the goat equation in no time for having a losing h2h to another of his rivals!

a taste of own medicine for nadaletes


Is the H2H not 16 - 12? Or maybe its 5-0 as that was Nole 1.0 and now he is Nole 2.0?

can you not read dumbo?
 
No, calling Nadal the GOAT is stupid. But calling Novak the GOAT is not only stupid, it is just ********.

no way am i calling nole GOAT. he is no way a GOAT. but everyone is calling nadal GOAT cuz he has career slam and im just pointing out with nadal resume how can you call him a GOAT. hes prob top 5 but not All Time.
 
wait i got an over under for everyone: how long before Johnny Mac starts to call Joker GOAT. i say he wins US Open this year right after.
 
This Nole 2.0 business is ridiculous.

If Murray were to win US Open and beat Djokovic or Rafa do we call Murray 'Murray 2.0' and state that Nole or Rafa has never beaten Murray?? This is ridiculous stuff.
By Nole 2.0, we mean the gluten-free King, Nole of 2011.

Henceforth, we are eschewing the Gregorian Calendar and counting years from the old 2011 CE. This is year 0 NE (Nole Era). All losses before 0 NE are null and void as per the dictat of King Nole.
 
By Nole 2.0, we mean the gluten-free King, Nole of 2011.

Henceforth, we are eschewing the Gregorian Calendar and counting years from the old 2011 CE. This is year 0 NE (Nole Era). All losses before 0 NE are null and void as per the dictat of King Nole.
^^^ This is genius.

And thus I end this missive, in this third day of July, of this first year counted from the advent of our glorious king Nole The Glutenless.
 
By Nole 2.0, we mean the gluten-free King, Nole of 2011.

Henceforth, we are eschewing the Gregorian Calendar and counting years from the old 2011 CE. This is year 0 NE (Nole Era). All losses before 0 NE are null and void as per the dictat of King Nole.

Thank you for clearing that up.

If Nole loses the US Open is it still Nole 2.0? What then would it be called if he came back and won the Aus 12? Nole 3.0?
 
Thank you for clearing that up.

If Nole loses the US Open is it still Nole 2.0? What then would it be called if he came back and won the Aus 12? Nole 3.0?
It is unfortunate Nole is already 24 years old and only has 3 GS titles. Tsk tsk. LOL.

It might take for Nole 9.0 to approach the level of greatness that Nadal has already achieved at 25, much less what Roger has achieved. Let's hope Murray 2.0 doesn't hit the shelves before that, or he is going to be screwed.
 
It is unfortunate Nole is already 24 years old and only has 3 GS titles. Tsk tsk. LOL.

It might take for Nole 9.0 to approach the level of greatness that Nadal has already achieved at 25, much less what Roger has achieved. Let's hope Murray 2.0 doesn't hit the shelves before that, or he is going to be screwed.

I am just confused at this stage as to who is who.

Fed must be 15.0 at this stage.

Anyway my work is done here. I think I have done enough to discredit this whole ridiculous Nole 2.0 thing. You'd swear we were talking about a different human being.
 
I am just confused at this stage as to who is who.

Fed must be 15.0 at this stage.

Anyway my work is done here. I think I have done enough to discredit this whole ridiculous Nole 2.0 thing. You'd swear we were talking about a different human being.

You haven't discredited anything except in your delusional mind. The guy is 48-1 this year on pace for the best season ever and he's not much better than last year? You people are blind.
 
Unfortunately, the sun has set on Rafa's GOAT claim. How can the GOAT lose to a challenger on 3 different surfaces? Additionally, losing to a first time finalist in the cathedral of pro tennis is something that will not stand before the GOAT committee.
 
Davydenko of all people is 6-4 vs. Nadal. What GOAT nonsense are you talking about, people?

Nadal is as GOAT as Lendl was.
 
Davydenko of all people is 6-4 vs. Nadal. What GOAT nonsense are you talking about, people?

Nadal is as GOAT as Lendl was.
Let's assume that Nadal is disqualified from being a GOAT because of having a losing H2H against Davydenko.

Does that mean Federer is also disqualified from being a GOAT because of having a losing H2H against Nadal?

I think the Fed/Nadal H2H is more substantial and one-sided than the Nadal/Davydenko one as well.

Do you follow your own logic? Or do you make the rules as you go?
 
LOL. I see a gasquettard with nothing to do (understantably) but float around like an annoying fat turd fly when a player he doesn't like loses.

Go sniff a line. :)

lol, still pissed off, I see. ;)


Btw, you sound just like a former banned poster called TheLoneRetard or wolf or something...:D
 
lol, still pissed off, I see. ;)


Btw, you sound just like a former banned poster called TheLoneRetard or wolf or something...:D
And you are still floating around. LOL.

You sound just like a fly buzzing around waiting for another thread to come up bashing some player you don't like. BZZZZ BZZZZ BZZZZ LOL
 
Mr. Nadal is 7-2 against Fred and 5-1 against Djokovic in slams, that means he is still GOAT, up there with Sampras and Safin.
 
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