how deceiving is the lob serve

Jessica

Rookie
I can see why people use it on second serves, but is it really helpful to used it to confuse the opponent?
 

Jessica

Rookie
I'm thinking. wouldn't it be awesome if novak d wins a grand slam against nadal by acing him with a lob serve?
 

volleynets

Hall of Fame
what? You mean to serve super high and have it land in the box? Anyone would walk up to it and hit an overhead off of it.
 

maverick66

Hall of Fame
wow..........iwas talking to OP
And there was zero need for what you said. She is obviously a beginner so instead of correcting her and saying as your level goes up this serve is a very bad idea as people will hit it hard you had to be a jerk about it.
 
Lob serves are bad, but very low pace, short and or low balls can be helpful in high school matches. They would be useful on people who overhit, or try to hit harder on easy balls. This serve can work at lower levels, but not sure about higher.
 
Lol i remember seeing this somewhere about like a super lob serve where the ball would bounce above ur opponents head and go over the fence... Basically you'd have to stand about 15 or more feet outside the fence of the court and hit from there... If your opponent has reasonable skill theyd just tap it back in really! i go for the wicked forehand drive serve if my second is off for the day :) or even a wicked underspin serve like michael chang! lol
 

psYcon

Semi-Pro
you can also try hitting the ball like 200 feet high , when it lands on the first bounce it will bounce at least 40 feet, and a lot of people have problems hitting overheads that high.
 

10nistennis

Rookie
please please please shut the f... up and go and play some tennis
How about you be quiet, and go play some tennis instead of being rude man?




As for the lob serve, it's just better to focus on hitting a technically correct serve. It's better in the long run. :)
 

NickH87

Semi-Pro
I can see it working on people who return the serves from far behind the baseline on a 1st serve because they are waiting for a fast hard serve and if you just lob a POS right over the net, chances are they wont have enough time to run up so they will either get a ****ty shot or it will bounce twice.
 

<3tennis!!!

Semi-Pro
rofl ok im sorry but seriously anyone who has watched even recreational tennis knows a lob serve is a piece of crap so why someone would post something about it is beyond me
 

Jessica

Rookie
I guess what I meant was the underhand serve. some kids at the school suck at serving so much that underhand serve might actually have more ball speed. Also, you can put an insane topspin on it and still be able to hit it hard. Idk, but I'll do that when it's really windy. Plus, I'm not good with overheads.

Ps. <3tennis, stfu...
 

maverick66

Hall of Fame
it will work against lower players but in the long run you will be much better off using a regular serve. At first you might find you are shakey serving but you need to learn to hit to become a better player. hopefully it starts as a weakness and then becomes a strength.
 

Mick

Legend
what? You mean to serve super high and have it land in the box? Anyone would walk up to it and hit an overhead off of it.
i don't know how serena williams did it but the other day, in her first round match, she served a kick serve and the ball just bounced way over the opponent's head. It bounced so high that there was absolutely no chance to reach it. I was thinking if a person could serve a serve like that all the time, there would be no chance for the returner to return the serve, let alone break the serve.
 

Mick

Legend
she must have hit something on the court. if she could do that normally she would.
i think you're right. the replay showed that the ball hit on the line and maybe there was something underneath the line. her opponent was 5 feet 5 but the ball bounced up like 10 feet after it had landed.
 

Jessica

Rookie
do you see how nadal always stand wayy behind the baseline? if someone feeds him an underhand serve and put a slice spin on it, will he be able to get in position and kill it?
 

ramseszerg

Professional
i don't know how serena williams did it but the other day, in her first round match, she served a kick serve and the ball just bounced way over the opponent's head. It bounced so high that there was absolutely no chance to reach it. I was thinking if a person could serve a serve like that all the time, there would be no chance for the returner to return the serve, let alone break the serve.
That happened to me the other day too, on red clay, my topspin serve hit the line and bounced straight up.
 

Steady Eddy

Legend
The lob serve is a disaster in good tennis. But most people playing the game aren't very good at it. They have a lot of trouble dealing with lobs. So at low levels it's a good idea. It's easy for the server to execute, but a smash return is a low percentage for the returner, (at low levels), so they'll have to settle for simply hitting a forehand. Also, if the server wants to rush the net, this gives him or her plenty of time to get there.

For recreational tennis, the lob serves gets a "thumbs up" from me!
 

Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Not enough discussion about the lob serve. Glad to see this necrobump.

I have several guys in my playing circle that can't, for the life of them, hit a decent overhead. Maybe get 20% in the court. The rest go in the net or sail long. The overhead must be the hardest "easy" shot in tennis. So I have often wondered if lob serves would work as well against these guys as lob returns seem to.
 

Steady Eddy

Legend
Not enough discussion about the lob serve. Glad to see this necrobump.

I have several guys in my playing circle that can't, for the life of them, hit a decent overhead. Maybe get 20% in the court. The rest go in the net or sail long. The overhead must be the hardest "easy" shot in tennis. So I have often wondered if lob serves would work as well against these guys as lob returns seem to.
Ha ha. I like how you say it's the hardest easy shot. Do people avoid practicing it because it's too easy, (and a waste of time), or because it's too hard?

Watching tennis on television you get the feeling it's so easy that it doesn't even need to be learned. But that's the trouble with watching sports on TV. Presidents and other big shots show up to throw out the opening pitch, see video.

Apparently they don't see the need to practice that either. Ever try to kick extra point field goals? You'll see that they're a lot tougher than they look.

ATP tactics are a whole different thing from hacker tennis. Like I've always heard, "Don't give up a short ball.", but in my group if your groundie is just a little bit short, it will bounce twice before the 'player' gets to it. Slow balls, short balls, lobs, and junky spins are fails in ATP tennis, but are golden in hacker tennis. Two different worlds.
 

Raul_SJ

G.O.A.T.
Not enough discussion about the lob serve. Glad to see this necrobump.

I have several guys in my playing circle that can't, for the life of them, hit a decent overhead. Maybe get 20% in the court. The rest go in the net or sail long. The overhead must be the hardest "easy" shot in tennis. So I have often wondered if lob serves would work as well against these guys as lob returns seem to.
Not really sure what a "lob serve" is and have never faced one.
My overhead sucks so I would never smash it. Just patiently wait till it comes down and then... rip a forehand!
 
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Dartagnan64

G.O.A.T.
Not really sure what a "lob serve" is and have never faced one.
My overhead sucks so I would never smash it. Just patiently wait till it comes down and then... rip a forehand!
Need to face a few 3.0 women second serves. That's the only place i've seen it and it's amazing how challenging it can be to hit a midcourt high bouncer. Never seems to bounce quite high enough to overhead but is a bit high for a comfortable groundstroke.
 

GuyClinch

Legend
Need to face a few 3.0 women second serves. That's the only place i've seen it and it's amazing how challenging it can be to hit a midcourt high bouncer. Never seems to bounce quite high enough to overhead but is a bit high for a comfortable groundstroke.
Overhead height needed is related to love of overheads. There are always balls that are high enough for an overhead that people instead hit with a topspin forehand. Call it sexist - but women like overheads a lot less then men.. So lob serve works fine for 3.0 women. Anyone else - they start licking their chops - even 3.0 men. The ball is going to bounce close to the middle of the court - giving you prime opportunity to spike it.
 
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