What was it that secured his position for eternity as the most beloved figure in tennis?
I knew I could count on me.
Okay, folks today are largely a desensitized lot of pawns. You won't get much of an argument out of me on that one.Aesthetically pleasing. Form over Substance. Its why rich goobers elites maintain control of the population.. Humans are very shallow today. Why are cheap reality shows full of idiots, and crappy, computer generated movies the most popular thing on a TV screen now? Because we are Brain dead
Yea. No substance in 20 GS.Aesthetically pleasing. Form over Substance. Its why rich goobers elites maintain control of the population.. Humans are very shallow today. Why are cheap reality shows full of idiots, and crappy, computer generated movies the most popular thing on a TV screen now? Because we are Brain dead
Okay, folks today are largely a desensitized lot of pawns. You won't get much of an argument out of me on that one.
I guess I'm really wondering why the love for Federer is guaranteed never to be surpassed for as long as humanity exists.
Artistry will never die, I'll wager.Im sure other pretty aesthetically players will come along under conditions that suit their game and Fed will be forgotten about... If you made all conditions slow way back in 2003 when Fed started his climb, his game wouldn't look so pleasing
This ^^^^ plus a great marketing machine... People generally need someone to idolise, so why not...It helped he didn’t actually usurp Pete. Didn’t step on anyone’s toes. Tennis needed a likeable and all rounded champ after the more...one dimensional, surface limited, erratic (cough) and, er, vociferous offerings post Sampras. Federer came along and everyone jumped on his style and charm. The game just about but his arm off and he kept his part of the bargain. The rest is history.
And where will they turn next?This ^^^^ plus a great marketing machine... People generally need someone to idolise, so why not...
Every generation has its own heroes... Who knows....And where will they turn next?
Won't it be weird for the idolized to be in another dude's shadow?
"They love me, sure. But they loved another more."
I guess the most comforting thing of it all from your perspective has to be the sense of security that Roger grants you.In the week that Novak secured another year end #1 ranking, threads like this seem pathetically desperate, pointlessly suggesting yet again that Federer is in some way loved rather than simply admired for a fine career that's currently being eclipsed by that of another.
Lol that's a good one manI guess the most comforting thing of it all from your perspective has to be the sense of security that Roger grants you.
For, with the perennial changing of the seasons—and despite the turmoil raging on the planet—the sun does still rise in the east.
As the planet completes yet another revolution on its axis... your chemical bond with NaCl grows ever stronger.
And that... is just the power of the GOAT.
In the week that Novak secured another year end #1 ranking, threads like this seem pathetically desperate, pointlessly suggesting yet again that Federer is in some way loved rather than simply admired for a fine career that's currently being eclipsed by that of another.
Pretty game, winning a lot when he was young, beating Sampras at Wimby. Those are 3 things that started me following him. Everyone likes a winner who seems humble, even if he isn’t. There were the post match interviews where he seemed approachable and humorous. He wasn’t afraid to cry in public. He wore his heart on his sleeve. He was easy to get behind. For the most part he was a gentleman. He has certainly had his cringeworthy moments. (2009 I’m looking at you) I think even his fans would admit to that, but overall he got a lot of people interested in tennis that were not before he came along. I started with Laver so I’m from way before Roger’s era but yeah I found him very appealing
I hear you.I just loved watching his game, so easy on the eyes - poetry in motion
Is Roger's nose still growing?This really isn't much of a mystery.
I mean here he is being described as "very charismatic" way back in 1999 (1:33). Some people just have that X factor.
Probably.Is Roger's nose still growing?
Cheating costs people dearly in the end.Big forehand is asthetically more pleasant than a good backhand. Federer has greatest forehand in tennis. That's why Tsitsipas could have been more popular than Zverev/Medvedev you know, if not for his cheating.
Because he plays beautiful tennis and is generally likable and uncontroversial. Not to mention he owned the sport for the better part of a decade. Nadal and Djokovic showed up after him, so their success to some extent will always be defined - in the popular imagination - by how they matched up to him.What was it that secured his position for eternity as the most beloved figure in tennis?
I knew I could count on me.
That makes no sense. All top players have auras, and for that reason their opponents often fall victim to that aura, but Djokovic and Nadal have won just as frequently when their opponents self-destructed because of facing those ATGs on the other side of the net.I want him to win when he plays better than his opponents which he usually does, but I usually want him to lose if I feel like his opponent is playing better which happens only when he plays Djokovic or maybe Nadal on clay.
The next time @vive le beau jeu ! comments in a Humble Bull thread and you cry foul because it's supposed to be about Nadal, we should all remember posts like this when you can't keep from doing the same thing. That's called hypocrisy, which is a word you do not understand.
I am talking about how I feel while I am in the middle of watching the match. After a set or two, I start feeling like one player is better and I start wanting that player to win just because I think the better player deserves to win. Incidentally, that’s how I am when I watch most sports except when I root for local Los Angeles teams or local players like Sampras, Nakashima, Fritz etc.That makes no sense. All top players have auras, and for that reason their opponents often fall victim to that aura, but Djokovic and Nadal have won just as frequently when their opponents self-destructed because of facing those ATGs on the other side of the net.
Your making this unique to Fed is your bias.
You don't seem to me to have a bias based on fandom, so I respect that. But I have to say that I've seen many matches over the years end up won by an ATG who frankly was playing quite a bit below his top level. If you see a top guy not playing his best, and the challenger ends up folding because of the aura, I think it's always disappointing.I am talking about how I feel while I am in the middle of watching the match. After a set or two, I start feeling like one player is better and I start wanting that player to win just because I think the better player deserves to win. Incidentally, that’s how I am when I watch most sports except when I root for local Los Angeles teams or local players like Sampras, Nakashima, Fritz etc.
Since 2011, it has happened with Federer against Djokovic only at fast courts like Cinci and WTF. Nadal on clay is a beast who always looks better than everyone else. Before a match starts, I am not a fan of any player since Sampras where I root for them to win. I think Djokovic is the GOAT, but like him the least as a person amongst the Big 3 - but, his tennis is a textbook delight for me to watch.
I was rooting for Federer to win by the fifth set of 2019W and Djokovic slightly late in the 2013FO semi because I did think they were playing better particularly because they were also more offensive. But, the aura of superiority that Djokovic had established over Federer by then and Nadal had in 2013 over Djokovic at the FO definitely helped carry them over the finish line. Many times I have supported the underdog in matches where they played better than the favorite for most of the match, but they end up losing and disappointing me because they can’t make that critical shot on a big point when it matters like on a break point or match point. Nadal at critical points in the 5th set of the 2012AO/2017AO, earlier in the 2018W semi, 2020FO semi; Federer in the 2018W final; Djokovic in the 2012FO final/2013 FO semi; Thiem in the 2020AO final all came up short at crucial points.I can think of two matches off the top of my head where I think the better player lost. One was the whole 40-15 thing. I believe Fed was the better player that day, but Joker got in his head. The reverse happened at RG when the old net incident happened. I think Djokovic was the better player that day. By a hair. But Nadal had the clay aura.
But it's not fair to forget that players earn those auras.
Okay, folks today are largely a desensitized lot of pawns. You won't get much of an argument out of me on that one.
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