How did Mr Fed win 3 slams after 35?
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Lleytonstation
G.O.A.T.
Amazing feat. One that Rafa is likely to do and maybe even Djoker.
OldschoolKIaus
Hall of Fame
By winning three tournaments.
UnderratedSlam
Legend
Coz he vultured them in Novak's absence.
Before 17/18 Novak beat RF in two Wimby finales, a USO finale and a AO semis. He was the big obstacle.
Similar to the way he vultured his only FO09 when Rafa was injured.
Yes, Rafa was injured at FO. he played below par vs Soderling, then pulled out of Wimby. Pulled out as defending champion.
Of course, there's also the luck of getting Cilic twice...
Before 17/18 Novak beat RF in two Wimby finales, a USO finale and a AO semis. He was the big obstacle.
Similar to the way he vultured his only FO09 when Rafa was injured.
Yes, Rafa was injured at FO. he played below par vs Soderling, then pulled out of Wimby. Pulled out as defending champion.
Of course, there's also the luck of getting Cilic twice...
TennisManiac
Hall of Fame
You're out of your god damn mind!
DismalFuture
Professional
Strong era
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
For some reason everyone crapped their pants. Most pathetic efforts from the field until Del Potro showed the way. No excessive complaints about the inflation era happened then though.
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
The same reason why Nadsy and Djoke are feasting for the last 6 years: absolute and utter lack of younger challengers of ATG quality.
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
How would you know, you have been here only since 2015?For some reason everyone crapped their pants. Most pathetic efforts from the field until Del Potro showed the way. No excessive complaints about the inflation era happened then though.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
How would I know what happened here in 2017-early 2018 if I have been here since 2015?How would you know, you have been here only since 2015?
I'll let you figure that out.
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Actually, even Fed fans were saying back in 2017-early 2018 that it was a weak era.For some reason everyone crapped their pants. Most pathetic efforts from the field until Del Potro showed the way. No excessive complaints about the inflation era happened then though.
It's just that people are complaining more about Djokodal because they have never had these extended periods of not winning slams like Fed has. They haven't been dethroned from the top. Fed has.
It's easy to complain more about Djokodal because they have yet to be the underdogs in their 30's like Fed has been.
TheNachoMan
Hall of Fame
Novak was out of form. He hasn’t won a slam since Novak’s resurgence
Third Serve
G.O.A.T.
Very nice feat but hampered a bit by a prime Novak not being there.
Yes, the same applies for all Slams won since 2017.
Yes, the same applies for all Slams won since 2017.
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
And what exactly has shown Del Potro in that time, so that we can assume that you are talking about 2018/2019?
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
Surely you jest?
xFedal
Legend
2017 USO he beat Fed din't he, then he beat fed at indian wells.And what exactly has shown Del Potro in that time, so that we can assume that you are talking about 2018/2019?
ollinger
G.O.A.T.
I suppose he did it the way Rosewall (with finals against the likes of Roche and Ashe) did it --- played very well
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
As much as I want everyone to have beating Fed as their biggest measuring stick, that is not it. It is titles and convincing performances in tournaments that do that. Del Potro has exactly one very memorable match in that time, and that is his QF against Nadal at Wimbledon. The rest has been pretty much par for the course. Del Potro's best years showed how good he can be, so that is just going back to what he could do, only without the resilience and the power that he once had.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
Djoker may not do it (even then I'm not 100% sure), but I wouldn't put it past Nadal to win the next 3 RG titles or the next 2 plus a USO, something like that.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
And what exactly does 2018-19 have to do with the period of Federer's most recent three Majors? Is this your misinterpreting or derailing reflexes kicking in? Why don't you reformulate or just try again so the question makes sense...And what exactly has shown Del Potro in that time, so that we can assume that you are talking about 2018/2019?
Legend of Borg
G.O.A.T.
Rafa, sure, I can see him get more RGs and a USO
Djoker? massive, pyramid sized question mark
PeoplesChamp
Hall of Fame
Djokovic was in the draw for all 3 slams that Federer won.
Wander
Professional
You have to be kidding me. Likely to do? I think not. Actual future greats are starting to emerge. Nadal has almost 0 chance of winning three majors after 35.
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
I addressed your claim about Del Potro, and that is when he had his most consistent results. Oh, I got it, you just wanted to have a go at Federer, and didn't really mean anything else.
Jeebus, even when one allows for the possibility that you want to have a tennis discussion, it is quickly debunked.
What a sad state of the things.
Jokervich
Professional
He "won" them by default because Djokovic was going through a rough patch of form + had personal problems off the court
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
When decline happens for the oldsters, it happens swiftly and ruthlessly. Rafa’s choking and utter exhaustion at the end of the Med match may be a portent of things to come.
MasterZeb
Hall of Fame
@octobrina10 say the line
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
PeoplesChamp
Hall of Fame
Let Djokovic fans lick their wounds thread
Indigo
Semi-Pro
Simply amazing achievement by Roger Federer although he used very bad slump by Novak Djokovic to bag 2 AO and 1 WB. However, players do get injured and Roger also got injured too. But at WB 2019 he proved that he can take it even at 38. Only a hand from heavens took it away from him in the most unfortunate and cruel event in history of tennis. Wish that Roger is back anytime soon and play again, that would be lot of fun.
Sudacafan
Talk Tennis Guru
Do you think that Rafa or Nole can’t do that? Would you bet on it?
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
Actually one would have to be pretty stupid to think that "everyone was crapping their pants but Del Potro showed the way" in a thread about Gramperer's vulturing achievements was referring to Del Potro's most consistent results. But you "got it" eventually. Kudos! Now do both a favor and don't allow me such possibilities in the future, thanks.I addressed your claim about Del Potro, and that is when he had his most consistent results. Oh, I got it, you just wanted to have a go at Federer, and didn't really mean anything else.
Jeebus, even when one allows for the possibility that you want to have a tennis discussion, it is quickly debunked.
What a sad state of the things.
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
Open trolling?Actually one would have to be pretty stupid to think that "everyone was crapping their pants but Del Potro showed the way" in a thread about Gramperer's vulturing achievements was referring to Del Potro's most consistent results. But you "got it" eventually. Kudos! Now do both a favor and don't allow me such possibilities in the future, thanks.
Oh, well!
You used to be a decent poster.
junior74
G.O.A.T.
Seriously; almost everyone agrees 2017 was not a strong year.For some reason everyone crapped their pants. Most pathetic efforts from the field until Del Potro showed the way. No excessive complaints about the inflation era happened then though.
Tennis_Hands
Bionic Poster
I am pretty sure that almost all serious Fed fans acknowledge that the competition has been abysmal since around 2015. Then again, he already admitted that he is openly trolling, so I don't think that his words warrant another thought.
Third Serve
G.O.A.T.
Pretty much every Fed fan on the forum that I know of acknowledges that 2017 was a weak year, with some exception going to AO 2017 which, along with W 2018, was the only decent Slam of 2017-present.For some reason everyone crapped their pants. Most pathetic efforts from the field until Del Potro showed the way. No excessive complaints about the inflation era happened then though.
junior74
G.O.A.T.
2015 had some good slams, but also lacked Nadal. 2014 is the last really good year, I think. And I think almost all sane people agree it has been easier to win slams in 2015-2020 than in 2010-2015.I am pretty sure that almost all serious Fed fans acknowledge that the competition has been abysmal since around 2015. Then again, he already admitted that he is openly trolling, so I don't think that his words warrant another thought.
Lleytonstation
G.O.A.T.
Surely you guys don't think a YEC is a turning point. Look at the slams this year, nothing has changed. You had Djoker win AO, would have won WC, would have won USO if not for a once in a career blunder, and Rafa beat Djoker in the final of FO. Oh, and the year ended with Djoker #1 and Rafa #2.
If you guys think there are future ATG's in the making then fine, but I have heard that for a decade. I think Rafa wins at least 3 more FO's and Djoker will win a few more AO or WC.
Steve0904
Talk Tennis Guru
In the 1980's-90 early 2000's maybe, but tennis has quite clearly had a shift to older players being able to hang on to their top level for much longer. People didn't think Nadal or Djokovic (or even Fed at certain points after 2013 or 2016) would make it this far. There's no reason to doubt that they'll make it to 37-38 and still be relatively competitive. Especially in Nadal's case because he's far and away the best player on any single surface that the game has ever or will ever see.
And especially against this field of players.
Doctor/Lawyer Red Devil
Talk Tennis Guru
I agree that I have become worse.Open trolling?
Oh, well!
You used to be a decent poster.
TTW as a whole did. I am referring to inflation era, let's adjust the Slam numbers the way we think is right and that stuff. Plenty of us agree that years that followed weren't strong either. But from "20>16>12, end of discussion" we have come to a different tune now. I don't need to explain why is that...
xFedal
Legend
Wouldn't bet, but the fearsome 4 have arrived.
Bamoos
Rookie
Just like Novak won 4 Wimbledon titles once Fed got old
mike danny
Bionic Poster
Why didn't Nadal win them by default, then?