You're out of your god damn mind!Amazing feat. One that Rafa is likely to do and maybe even Djoker.
The same reason why Nadsy and Djoke are feasting for the last 6 years: absolute and utter lack of younger challengers of ATG quality.Seems impossible to do?
How would you know, you have been here only since 2015?For some reason everyone crapped their pants. Most pathetic efforts from the field until Del Potro showed the way. No excessive complaints about the inflation era happened then though.![]()
How would I know what happened here in 2017-early 2018 if I have been here since 2015?How would you know, you have been here only since 2015?
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Actually, even Fed fans were saying back in 2017-early 2018 that it was a weak era.For some reason everyone crapped their pants. Most pathetic efforts from the field until Del Potro showed the way. No excessive complaints about the inflation era happened then though.![]()
How would I know what happened here in 2017-early 2018 if I have been here since 2015?
I'll let you figure that out.
And what exactly has shown Del Potro in that time, so that we can assume that you are talking about 2018/2019?Most pathetic efforts from the field until Del Potro showed the way. No excessive complaints about the inflation era happened then though.
Surely you jest?Amazing feat. One that Rafa is likely to do and maybe even Djoker.
2017 USO he beat Fed din't he, then he beat fed at indian wells.And what exactly has shown Del Potro in that time, so that we can assume that you are talking about 2018/2019?
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I suppose he did it the way Rosewall (with finals against the likes of Roche and Ashe) did it --- played very wellSeems impossible to do?
As much as I want everyone to have beating Fed as their biggest measuring stick, that is not it. It is titles and convincing performances in tournaments that do that. Del Potro has exactly one very memorable match in that time, and that is his QF against Nadal at Wimbledon. The rest has been pretty much par for the course. Del Potro's best years showed how good he can be, so that is just going back to what he could do, only without the resilience and the power that he once had.2017 USO he beat Fed din't he, then he beat fed at indian wells.
Djoker may not do it (even then I'm not 100% sure), but I wouldn't put it past Nadal to win the next 3 RG titles or the next 2 plus a USO, something like that.Surely you jest?
And what exactly does 2018-19 have to do with the period of Federer's most recent three Majors? Is this your misinterpreting or derailing reflexes kicking in? Why don't you reformulate or just try again so the question makes sense...And what exactly has shown Del Potro in that time, so that we can assume that you are talking about 2018/2019?
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Rafa, sure, I can see him get more RGs and a USOAmazing feat. One that Rafa is likely to do and maybe even Djoker.
Djokovic was in the draw for all 3 slams that Federer won.Coz he vultured them in Novak's absence
You have to be kidding me. Likely to do? I think not. Actual future greats are starting to emerge. Nadal has almost 0 chance of winning three majors after 35.Amazing feat. One that Rafa is likely to do and maybe even Djoker.
I addressed your claim about Del Potro, and that is when he had his most consistent results. Oh, I got it, you just wanted to have a go at Federer, and didn't really mean anything else.And what exactly does 2018-19 have to do with the period of Federer's most recent three Majors? Is this your misinterpreting or derailing reflexes kicking in? Why don't you reformulate or just try again so the question makes sense...
He "won" them by default because Djokovic was going through a rough patch of form + had personal problems off the courtHe won them because he "deserved" to
When decline happens for the oldsters, it happens swiftly and ruthlessly. Rafa’s choking and utter exhaustion at the end of the Med match may be a portent of things to come.Djoker may not do it (even then I'm not 100% sure), but I wouldn't put it past Nadal to win the next 3 RG titles or the next 2 plus a USO, something like that.
So?2017 USO he beat Fed din't he, then he beat fed at indian wells.
Do you think that Rafa or Nole can’t do that? Would you bet on it?Seems impossible to do?
Actually one would have to be pretty stupid to think that "everyone was crapping their pants but Del Potro showed the way" in a thread about Gramperer's vulturing achievements was referring to Del Potro's most consistent results. But you "got it" eventually. Kudos! Now do both a favor and don't allow me such possibilities in the future, thanks.I addressed your claim about Del Potro, and that is when he had his most consistent results. Oh, I got it, you just wanted to have a go at Federer, and didn't really mean anything else.
Jeebus, even when one allows for the possibility that you want to have a tennis discussion, it is quickly debunked.
What a sad state of the things.
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Open trolling?Actually one would have to be pretty stupid to think that "everyone was crapping their pants but Del Potro showed the way" in a thread about Gramperer's vulturing achievements was referring to Del Potro's most consistent results. But you "got it" eventually. Kudos! Now do both a favor and don't allow me such possibilities in the future, thanks.![]()
Seriously; almost everyone agrees 2017 was not a strong year.For some reason everyone crapped their pants. Most pathetic efforts from the field until Del Potro showed the way. No excessive complaints about the inflation era happened then though.![]()
I am pretty sure that almost all serious Fed fans acknowledge that the competition has been abysmal since around 2015. Then again, he already admitted that he is openly trolling, so I don't think that his words warrant another thought.Seriously; almost everyone agrees 2017 was not a strong year.
Pretty much every Fed fan on the forum that I know of acknowledges that 2017 was a weak year, with some exception going to AO 2017 which, along with W 2018, was the only decent Slam of 2017-present.For some reason everyone crapped their pants. Most pathetic efforts from the field until Del Potro showed the way. No excessive complaints about the inflation era happened then though.![]()
2015 had some good slams, but also lacked Nadal. 2014 is the last really good year, I think. And I think almost all sane people agree it has been easier to win slams in 2015-2020 than in 2010-2015.I am pretty sure that almost all serious Fed fans acknowledge that the competition has been abysmal since around 2015. Then again, he already admitted that he is openly trolling, so I don't think that his words warrant another thought.
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Surely you jest?
Rafa, sure, I can see him get more RGs and a USO
Djoker? massive, pyramid sized question mark
Surely you guys don't think a YEC is a turning point. Look at the slams this year, nothing has changed. You had Djoker win AO, would have won WC, would have won USO if not for a once in a career blunder, and Rafa beat Djoker in the final of FO. Oh, and the year ended with Djoker #1 and Rafa #2.You have to be kidding me. Likely to do? I think not. Actual future greats are starting to emerge. Nadal has almost 0 chance of winning three majors after 35.
In the 1980's-90 early 2000's maybe, but tennis has quite clearly had a shift to older players being able to hang on to their top level for much longer. People didn't think Nadal or Djokovic (or even Fed at certain points after 2013 or 2016) would make it this far. There's no reason to doubt that they'll make it to 37-38 and still be relatively competitive. Especially in Nadal's case because he's far and away the best player on any single surface that the game has ever or will ever see.When decline happens for the oldsters, it happens swiftly and ruthlessly. Rafa’s choking and utter exhaustion at the end of the Med match may be a portent of things to come.
I agree that I have become worse.Open trolling?
Oh, well!
You used to be a decent poster.
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Seriously; almost everyone agrees 2017 was not a strong year.
I am referring to inflation era, let's adjust the Slam numbers the way we think is right and that stuff. Plenty of us agree that years that followed weren't strong either. But from "20>16>12, end of discussion" we have come to a different tune now. I don't need to explain why is that...Pretty much every Fed fan on the forum that I know of acknowledges that 2017 was a weak year, with some exception going to AO 2017 which, along with W 2018, was the only decent Slam of 2017-present.
Wouldn't bet, but the fearsome 4 have arrived.Do you think that Rafa or Nole can’t do that? Would you bet on it?
Just like Novak won 4 Wimbledon titles once Fed got oldHe "won" them by default because Djokovic was going through a rough patch of form + had personal problems off the court
Why didn't Nadal win them by default, then?He "won" them by default because Djokovic was going through a rough patch of form + had personal problems off the court