How did Rafael Nadal beat Novak Djokovic in the 2013 US Open Final?

[abmk]

1) Murray >>>>> Kohly. It was prime level stuff from Murray

2) He was broken only once because competition was complete crap in 2013. No one dense as you cheesehead. Kohl did not play well, nothing special. Nadal was just not as good as in 2011

3) My logic meter is fine, yours needs a refund. You are clueless.

You are insane to think 2011 uso was prime stuff from Murray.

Even with crappy competition, it takes great play to be broken only once in 6 grand slam matches, you fool.

And your logic worse than that of a 5th grader.

You are trolling here or don't have a clue. Either way I'm done with you here.

 

[Antonio Puente]

Weak clay era? I think so. Rafa really had no competition on clay. He is clay GOAT. 9 easy wins with weak competition. Maybe 2013 was only time he had one tough match his whole career at RG. the one against Novak. I think he has at least one strong clay slam. The 2013 one. 8 easy wins sounds fair?

So, Nadal faced two tier 1 greats, two players who many on this forum believe are 2 of the top 3 players ever, and he had it easy?

I've said this repeatedly since I arrived on this forum almost a decade ago. This is the most comical thing you see on this forum - a Fed(or Djoker) fan claiming a draw including Fed(or Djoker) is weak or easy. How of can a draw including the greatest player ever(or #3 in the case of Djoker) possibly be weak?

Doesn't say much about them, does it?

 

[Hitman's Gurl]

So, he faced two tier 1 greats, two players who many on this forum believe are 2 of the top 3 players ever, and he had it easy?

I've said this repeatedly since I arrived on this forum almost a decade ago. This is the most comical thing you see on this forum - Fed fans claiming that a draw including Fed is weak or easy. How can a draw including the greatest player ever(or #3 in the case of Djoker) possibly be weak?

Doesn't say much about them, does it?

I am sorry but if they have gone 1-11 against Rafa at RG, then they are easy. Please do not use the success that Roger and indeed Novak have at other slams to show they are greatest competition on clay. Clay is without a doubt Roger's worst surface. He is the grass and HC GOAT. Rafa's toughest competition during his peak years was a player who's worst surface is clay! You can't have it both ways here. You claim the dominance Rafa has over Roger and Novak, the 11-1 you boast. Then you say they are greatest opposition. I am sorry, you are not greatest competition if you both lose 11 straight matches combined against him!

What it doesn't say much about is that Rafa needed Roger, who was dominating everywhere else to step up on the worst surface also, because Rafa had no one to compete with.

Roger haters like you claim he had it easy against Andy, Lleyton and others of his generation. They would all be multi time champions without him. You are using Roger's success on non clay surfaces to make it seem he is a worthy foe for a Clay GOAT. Sorry, seems like contradiction to me. Amazing how many Roger haters are completely blind to their own contradiction at times.

I guess the same applies to Novak. He is much superior HC player, his best surface. I hate to say this but how many times did Rafa play Novak at RG? How many times did they play at AO?

 

[InsideOut900]

He defeated them on their preferred surfaces.

He never beat Novak at AO And if they met 7 times at AO and only one time at RG, the H2H would be exactly the opposite

I guess post-peak Fed beating absolute peak Nadal in 2007 at Wimby and mental midget 08-09 Fed nearly beating a zoning Nadal in Wimby/AO isn't that bad either.

But he has clay, I will give you that.

 

[DerekNoleFam1]

I am sorry but if they have gone 1-11 against Rafa at RG, then they are easy. Please do not use the success that Roger and indeed Novak have at other slams to show they are greatest competition on clay. Clay is without a doubt Roger's worst surface. He is the grass and HC GOAT. Rafa's toughest competition during his peak years was a player who's worst surface is clay! You can't have it both ways here. You claim the dominance Rafa has over Roger and Novak, the 11-1 you boast. Then you say they are greatest opposition. I am sorry, you are not greatest competition if you both lose 11 straight matches combined against him!

What it doesn't say much about is that Rafa needed Roger, who was dominating everywhere else to step up on the worst surface also, because Rafa had no one to compete with.

Roger haters like you claim he had it easy against Andy, Lleyton and others of his generation. They would all be multi time champions without him. You are using Roger's success on non clay surfaces to make it seem he is a worthy foe for a Clay GOAT. Sorry, seems like contradiction to me. Amazing how many Roger haters are completely blind to their own contradiction at times.

I guess the same applies to Novak. He is much superior HC player, his best surface. I hate to say this but how many times did Rafa play Novak at RG? How many times did they play at AO?

It is hardly rocket science that Djoker, and Fed for that matter as a non-fan, would have been multiple RG champions in any other era.
They were beaten by the greatest clay court player of all time, Djoker was primed on numerous occasions, but always ran into Nadal, bar a a once-a-year peaking Stanimal in 2015, and Fed in 2011 semi.

 

[roysid]

Coming to OP's question, it's no big surprise that Nadal beat Djokovic at 2013 US Open. The ways their rivalries have gone, usually one player hits the peak, he dominates and then the other one peaks and turns tables around.

2010 - Rafa was too strong for Djokovic. Beat him everywhere.
2011 - Novak turned a new leaf. Spanked Rafa pretty much by pinning him to his backhand corner.
2012 - Rafa turns this first by almost winning in AO'2012 and then dominated clay season.
2013 - Rafa dominates in French, Canada and US Open. Novak turns in around
2014-2016 - Barring the 2014 FO final, its all Novak's way

 

[Hitman's Gurl]

It is hardly rocket science that Djoker, and Fed for that matter as a non-fan, would have been multiple RG champions in any other era.
They were beaten by the greatest clay court player of all time, Djoker was primed on numerous occasions, but always ran into Nadal, bar a a once-a-year peaking Stanimal in 2015, and Fed in 2011 semi.

Agree. 11 matches played against combined against prime Rafa. 11 lost. Only one match went to five sets. Four matches were over in straight sets. Roger failing to ever win more than one set against Rafa. When you own someone the way Rafa owned Roger and Novak, they are not tough competition. Why does Rafa get a free pass on tough competition when he was untouchable and Roger does not? Andy and Lleyton would be multiple time W and USO champions and maybe AO champions if they did not face the grass and HC GOAT. Also Roger has had to compete with second HC GOAT who is also AO GOAT. I think it is terribly wrong to say one has tougher competition than the other. I think they are amazing but we need to stay impartial also. Thanks.

 

[Tennisanity]

You are insane to think 2011 uso was prime stuff from Murray.

Even with crappy competition, it takes great play to be broken only once in 6 grand slam matches, you fool.

And your logic worse than that of a 5th grader.

You are trolling here or don't have a clue. Either way I'm done with you here.

Sorry, I'm not insane, you are. Murray won the USO in 2012. Murray had just been to AO final previous year. It was prime stuff from Murray, you are nuts.

Nadal is not known for his serve. You need a great serve to be broken only once. That Nadal was broken only once with not a great serves proves how crappy competition can allow this. You are clueless man.

You don't even have a clue what logic is. All you do is spew out meaningless statements and think it somehow constitutes a proof. I've seen you posting around before. Pathetic.

I am not the troll you are, else you are the most stupid poster on this site. You won't be done, your ego won't allow it loser. LOLL.

 

[adil1972]

AO Djokovic 6 Federer 5
US Open Djokovic 2 Federer 5
WTF Djokovic 5 Federer 6

so HC Slams/WTF
Federer 16
Djkokovic 13

 

[Krish872007]

The Force.

 

[10sfreak319]

The Force.

Gurufils gave Rafa just an ounce of his strength to beat Novak.
I can't even...