How did Rafael Nadal become the most consistent performer out of the big three?
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tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Clay and cupcake draws.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
I know that Rafa is so good on clay that you would like to eliminate the surface, but that is not how the sport works my friend.
Does the fact that Rafa has the most SF appearances since 2017 even if you entirely remove clay upset you?
TheIntrovert
Hall of Fame
Why 2017? Let’s go further back. Or further ahead
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
If you remove clay it's Federer 3 Slams, Djokovic 3 Slams, Nadal 1 cupcake Rublev-Anderson Slam.I know that Rafa is so good on clay that you would like to eliminate the surface, but that is not how the sport works my friend.
Does the fact that Rafa has the most SF appearances since 2017 even if you entirely remove clay upset you?
Agree or not agree nadal has been the most consistent player in grand slams since 2017.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Clay and mug draws. Basically story of Nadal's career.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
If you remove clay it's Federer 3 Slams, Djokovic 3 Slams, Nadal 1 cupcake Rublev-Anderson Slam.
Still trying to outlaw clay because you find it so upsetting? Do you need a safe space to retreat to during clay season?
How did Maestro do against Anderson on his preferred surface, while I have you here?
So for your convinience we should remove one surface completely. Nice IQIf you remove clay it's Federer 3 Slams, Djokovic 3 Slams, Nadal 1 cupcake Rublev-Anderson Slam.
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Nadal at 37 will be losing to players from the Futures circuit at Wimbledon.Still trying to outlaw clay because you find it so upsetting? Do you need a safe space to retreat to during clay season?
How did Maestro do against Anderson on his preferred surface, while I have you here?
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Yeah we should remove the low IQ surface where all you have to do is grind. Zero talent required.
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
Maybe, time will tell. But Rafael from ages 31 to 35 has 4 slams and counting. Maestro laid a big fat pigeon egg. And that is becoming the difference, my friend
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Federer's competition in 2010-2016 was in a different stratosphere than Nadal's. Nadal would have problems winning Monte Carlos if he was in his 30s at the time. Djokovic alone would be enough to stop him.Maybe, time will tell. But Rafael from ages 31 to 35 has 4 slams and counting. Maestro laid a big fat pigeon egg. And that is becoming the difference, my friend
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
That Nadal was a part of ROFLMAO.Maestronian talking about weak competition
weakera
Talk Tennis Guru
12/18 slams from 2003-2007
*Djokovic and Nadal become good*
8/46 slams from 2007-2019
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
So 2007 is both a part of a weak and strong era?12/18 slams from 2003-2007
*Djokovic and Nadal become good*
8/46 slams from 2007-2019
12/18 slams from 2003-2007
*Djokovic and Nadal become good*
8/46 slams from 2007-2019
From 2005-07 Nadal had won 3 FOs and 0 others. from 2007-19, in 12 years he won 6 outside FO. How much good Rafa became from 2007 that he could only win 6 GS outside FO. He was good at FO since 2005.
12/18 slams from 2003-2007
*Djokovic and Nadal become good*
8/46 slams from 2007-2019
Ouch
HetTheGreaterer
Banned
Soft draws
(USO17, RG17-18-19, USO18, AO19)
(USO17, RG17-18-19, USO18, AO19)
BeatlesFan
Bionic Poster
I think any moron should be able to figure out Fed is 35-37 years old in the timeframe under discussion. 99% of pro tennis players are retired at those ages and the fact he won 3 majors when so old is unprecedented in the sport. It has nothing to do with “hate” to effortlessly refute comparisons to players 5 and 6 years younger.
mxmx
Hall of Fame
When all clay specialists aside from himself died off.
Lew II
G.O.A.T.
Your predictions are epic!
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
You should check out my 2011 prediction where I said Federer would be no 1 in 2012 and I was severely mocked all the way to July where you know what happened.
Lew II
G.O.A.T.
So you haven't got one right since 2011?
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Hey, when I say that I predict that a Futures player is going to beat Nadal at Wimbledon it doesn't necessarily mean it will happen. You know, players ranked in the 400 or 500 don't usually make the Wimbledon main draw.So you haven't got one right since 2011?
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Towser83
G.O.A.T.
Hes done well at all the slams which is impressive, hes missed a lot of HC masters so maybe that's giving him the extra gas in the tank come the slams.
Nice arbitrary time frame though, I mean if it were since 2016 it would be Djokovic with 5 slams to 4 and if it were since 2018 it would be 3 to 2, so picking since 2017 is the only way to put Nadal on top
Nice arbitrary time frame though, I mean if it were since 2016 it would be Djokovic with 5 slams to 4 and if it were since 2018 it would be 3 to 2, so picking since 2017 is the only way to put Nadal on top
tennisaddict
Bionic Poster
Nadal winning 3 FO and being consistent post age 30 definitely is very impressive.
el sergento
Hall of Fame
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Spencer Gore
Legend
No, it isn't. Ken Rosewall won three majors between 35-37.
Can you please stop clogging up the forum with completely ignorant posts. It's one thing not to know simple facts (such as how to write Roland-Garros), it's quite another to spend all day, every day pontificating on a sport you are clearly barely acquainted with.
And please try and cut out the "moron" talk. It should be possible to discuss tennis without using abusive language.
How about this one for Djokovic:
2003-2010: 0/8 year end #1 finishes
Federer turns 30
2011-2015: 4/5 year end #1 finishes
Whee, playing stupid games with data is fun
This forum has way, way too much fun with cherry picked timelines and false assertions of cause and effect.
OldschoolKIaus
Hall of Fame
Since 2003:
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el sergento
Hall of Fame
Baghdatis:Baghdatis, Philliweakis, Roddick, Hewitt
Epitome of waisted talent. But granted, not the greatest opponent. However, GOAT racket smasher and delusional egomaniac.
Phillipousis:
Fastest serve in the world at one point, so no slouch on grass. 2 time major finalist. Most famous Reality tv Greek gigolo.
Roddick:
Amazing serve, world #1, USO champ. 5-4 record vs Djokovic, perennial top 10 player. Terrible hat wearer.
Hewitt:
Amazing ROS, world #1, 2 time major champion, 1 time finalist, 5-4 record versus ATG Pete Sampras, 4-4 record vs Meth-Amph-Agassi. BFF with Nick Kyrgios, racist? (maybe not anymore).
Anyway, aside from Baghdatis, those are some legit players, and two HOFers, and I wouldn’t consider any of them weak competition, especially in this day and age, with the likes of big little man Zverev, Thiem, RBA, PCB, Weak-ikori, Del-Splinter, and a rotating cast of next-gen twitter addicts.
Roddick, Hewitt, and even Phillipousis stood head and shoulders above the current crop of non big 3 elite players.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Yes, bc they didn't have to deal with Djokovic and Nadal.
el sergento
Hall of Fame
Are you saying that anyone in the history of tennis that didn’t face Nadal and Djokovic played in a weak era and their achievements should be seen as insignificant?
you said this will happen to Nadal at age of 30, then 33 and now 37. So far he has proved you wrong.
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
Im saying they are good enough to keep the nextgen down and the gen before them and the gen before them. If YOU want to take that further than feel free.
Lol, it looks like you still haven’t stopped drinking since the #18!
tennis_pro
Bionic Poster
Im patent though
MichaelNadal
Bionic Poster
vex
Legend
Let’s look at this tiny segment of their careers where Fed is ancient and Djoker was injured half the time period
