How do I deal with an opponents mishits, frames, and net hits?

Lines

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I have a friend on my high school tennis team, lets call him bob, bob is tall and uses the babolat pure aero and hits his forehand in a western grip because he is tall and likes to hit balls while they are high. Due to his grip and that he doesn't watch the ball as he hits it he ends up framing a lot of forehands but most of his frames go in a corner with weird spin and end up being winners or putting him at an advantage in the point. He also frames his backhands sometimes and hits the top of the net with them very often. When he hits the net his shots almost always come over. He also "double frames" some of his backhand slices, meaning the ball hits one frame, doesn't hit the strings, then hits the other frame and leaves his racquet, giving them unpredictable power and spin. He frames his volleys with the throat of his racquet causing them to hit the net or just barely go over. This wouldn't be a problem but these things happen multiple times in each point. How do I deal with/respond to this and beat him?
I have tried holding back so he it is easier for him but that doesn't work very well. I have played him before when he was not near as lucky and he hit more on his strings and I won 6-0 but when he gets lucky I sometimes lose.
Ex: Today when we played I served to his backhand and he swung late and it hit the throat of his racquet and went very high and bounced in the back corner. This has happened a few times before.
Ex: He was playing against a kid better than him and hit a defensive forehand where he leaned back tried to take it off the bounce but he had his racquet face pointed straight down and if he had hit the string the ball would have hit the court on his side but he framed it with the side of the racquet and hit it flat on the other sides baseline.
Ex: There has been countless times where he has been trying to hit his forehand down the line but framed it or mishit it cross court and the other way around.
Ex: When we warm up we hit backhand to backhand then forehand to forehand, when we do backhand to backhand he hits the net a lot and it usually goes over even if it doesnt seem like it should, when we rally forehand to forehand he mishits and hits half of the balls to the wrong side of the court.
 
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I have a friend on my high school tennis team, lets call him bob, bob is tall and uses the babolat pure aero and hits his forehand in a western grip because he is tall and likes to hit balls while they are high. Due to his grip and that he doesn't watch the ball as he hits it he ends up framing a lot of forehands but most of his frames go in a corner with weird spin and end up being winners or putting him at an advantage in the point. He also frames his backhands sometimes and hits the top of the net with them very often. When he hits the net his shots almost always come over. He also "double frames" some of his backhand slices, meaning the ball hits one frame, doesn't hit the strings, then hits the other frame and leaves his racquet, giving them unpredictable power and spin. He frames his volleys with the throat of his racquet causing them to hit the net or just barely go over. This wouldn't be a problem but these things happen multiple times in each point. How do I deal with this?
I have tried holding back so he it is easier for him but that doesn't work very well. I have played him before when he was not near as lucky and he hit more on his strings and I won 6-0 but when he gets lucky I sometimes lose.
Ex: Today when we played I served to his backhand and he swung late and it hit the throat of his racquet and went very high and bounced in the back corner. This has happened a few times before.
Ex: He was playing against a kid better than him and hit a defensive forehand where he leaned back tried to take it off the bounce but he had his racquet face pointed straight down and if he had hit the string the ball would have hit the court on his side but he framed it with the side of the racquet and hit it flat on the other sides baseline.
Ex: There has been countless times where he has been trying to hit his forehand down the line but framed it or mishit it cross court and the other way around.
Ex: When we warm up we hit backhand to backhand then forehand to forehand, when we do backhand to backhand he hits the net a lot and it usually goes over even if it doesnt seem like it should, when we rally forehand to forehand he mishits and hits half of the balls to the wrong side of the court.
When you wrote "deal with", do you mean how do you get him to stop doing this or how do you respond when he does?

If the former, you can't. Just accept it.

If the latter, you have to be in optimal balance to move any direction. Are you split-stepping before every shot?

Playing against this type of opponent will either make you very good at reacting to unexpected shots or it will drive you crazy.
 

Lines

New User
When you wrote "deal with", do you mean how do you get him to stop doing this or how do you respond when he does?

If the former, you can't. Just accept it.

If the latter, you have to be in optimal balance to move any direction. Are you split-stepping before every shot?

Playing against this type of opponent will either make you very good at reacting to unexpected shots or it will drive you crazy.
I meant deal with as in how do I respond to this to win or change my play against him so it will not happen.
 
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I meant deal with as in how do I respond to this a win or change my play against him so it will not happen.
If you just want to get a good hitting session in, adjust your game.

If you're more concerned about long-term development, let him shank away, the shankier the better [for you to practice reacting].
 

MathGeek

Hall of Fame
My game is a lot like bob's. I beat a lot of opponents who are better than me, because they lose their cool and magnify a relatively rare occurance (maybe 5-10 times a match) and get it into their heads it is really making a difference.

They'd beat me if they ignored it and played their game.
 

zalive

Hall of Fame
This is part of tennis mysticism.

One of my hitting partners is a player without a specific gameplan, without a good technique, without ability for a precise placement of the ball with intention (capable of hitting only big targets and he even may spray at those on occasions) without organized play and clear ideas in his game. Yet his footwork is good, fitness excellent his defense is really good and he's good in resetting points when I press him, and his attacking game depends on phases on a momentum. And when he gets in his zone, all the balls mystically start to go in, including mishits, shots which clip the line though he never aimed near the line, fast flat balls barely clearing the net and falling inside the service box but barely with any bounce (so you can barely catch those before they bounce twice), random unpredictable balls...in his momentum he can win 6 and more games in a row against me. Luckily for me, so far it never lasts for whole two sets :D but within a set, he can swipe me when it starts to happen. He can even hit some marvelous volleys in that phase, acting like a wall, spiling practically no UE's. And oh yeah...all the shanks and framing will go in, of course.

Nothing wrong with it...only, I know he's not half as good for this, to really aim it and hit everything he its during his momentums :) everything is mystical when that happens. I tell to him 'ok I know you're not precise, that all these balls were not intentionally placed like they turned out and when everything goes your way'. He said 'I focused well, I had a clear intention to win'. :D

How do I deal with it? I don't. I accept it as is. There's no other explanation than his big will to win and mystical things when ball starts to listen to his wishes. I say to myself 'ok, this is mystical' and accept it as is. And play tennis further, looking for my chances to turn the set/match over, focusing on my tennis. Anyway, it might be your hitting partner is kind of similar. A guy with a positive attitude, big will to win, and ball just listens to him in a mystical way even when he shanks.

My advice: just focus on your tennis and think of this less. You'll play better if you don't bug yourself by thinking 'how's this possible' and avoid falling into negative emotions during the match. It's much easier once you accept it. Think of it as an invisible talent to make the ball listen to your (winning) wishes :D

I meant deal with as in how do I respond to this to win or change my play against him so it will not happen.
Stay calm, don't think about it, focus on your tennis, be prepared for such balls and ready to run them down and have your play. The better your focus is, the less damage it will do.
 
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Jamesm182

Semi-Pro
For all the times this happens in isolated instances the shots aren't beating you , you are beating yourself. Accept that these occasions are down to pure luck and not skill. He is not becoming a better player by doing this. You need to ensure your footwork and movement is of a high quality , with good recovery from shot to shot to ensure optimal positioning.
The rest is mental aspects, if you think you played the point in the right way and got beat by luck ,accept it , and challenge him to do the same again and again. Some times his luck might be in , but its undoubtedly going to stop at some point
 
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