how do you consider federer 's 2015 season ?

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i think it 's totally underrated federer 's season for me
2015 season was it 's totally come down djokovic vs whole world season i recon

first , federer reached 11 final on that season
11 final ... sure a lot
and he won 6 tour title
and he lost all 5 final on novak djokovic
all 5 lost agianst novak djokovic , can you belive this ?


Let's analyze the grand slam

15 AO - lost seppi in R3 d
:: i don 't know still why he lost seppi on major
this only loss from seppi at h2h
he is 14-1 on seppi

15 RG - lost stan wawrinka in QG


:: Does this need explanation?
at final , stan wawirnka beat novak djokovic in final
and he crush novak djokovic 's CYGS CHANCE
i think only nadal had a chance stop stan the man this RG

15 wimbledon
:: lost novak djokovic in final
he had such great wimbledon that year i think
before the final , he lost only one set on sam groth
and SF , he total crush andy murray in straight set
i consider this perpomance is his graetest his top 10 wimbledon win

and final , federer played important moment
like always aginast novak djokovic at any slam
he had a double set point on first set , two set point
it 's sucks that he blow these two set point

and first tie break loss ( 1- 7_) was total worst any tie break perpomance from federer
i am still beyound that how the he won second set tie break ( 12-10 )
but after second set his level was down , and fourth set loss form federer

15 us open
:: this loss was way terrible than wimbledon
before 15 us open , at cincy masters he beat both andy murray and novak djokovic
his chance is total high i think he is seocnd favorite after novak djokvovic
and before final , he never lost a set form any player
SF aginast stan wawrinka match was total fantastic
then , he reached final and he wasted i remember 23 break point 23
only converted four i rememver
he had a plenty of a chance
but he wasted it

it 's sucks that he won anly amount of slam
but he is great at 2015 season
what do you guys think ?
 
Good season overall but he was unlucky to run into a peak Novak in two slam finals. Also, while in Wimbledon it looked like he was clearly the worse player maybe in the USO he could have done a bit more - but just like as usual against Novak he got tense and wasted too many good opportunities to make it a much closer match or even win it.
 
skypadq said:
i think it 's totally underrated federer 's season for me
2015 season was it 's totally come down djokovic vs whole world season i recon

first , federer reached 11 final on that season
11 final ... sure a lot
and he won 6 tour title
and he lost all 5 final on novak djokovic
all 5 lost agianst novak djokovic , can you belive this ?


Let's analyze the grand slam

15 AO - lost seppi in R3 d
:: i don 't know still why he lost seppi on major
this only loss from seppi at h2h
he is 14-1 on seppi

15 RG - lost stan wawrinka in QG


:: Does this need explanation?
at final , stan wawirnka beat novak djokovic in final
and he crush novak djokovic 's CYGS CHANCE
i think only nadal had a chance stop stan the man this RG

15 wimbledon
:: lost novak djokovic in final
he had such great wimbledon that year i think
before the final , he lost only one set on sam groth
and SF , he total crush andy murray in straight set
i consider this perpomance is his graetest his top 10 wimbledon win

and final , federer played important moment
like always aginast novak djokovic at any slam
he had a double set point on first set , two set point
it 's sucks that he blow these two set point

and first tie break loss ( 1- 7_) was total worst any tie break perpomance from federer
i am still beyound that how the he won second set tie break ( 12-10 )
but after second set his level was down , and fourth set loss form federer

15 us open
:: this loss was way terrible than wimbledon
before 15 us open , at cincy masters he beat both andy murray and novak djokovic
his chance is total high i think he is seocnd favorite after novak djokvovic
and before final , he never lost a set form any player
SF aginast stan wawrinka match was total fantastic
then , he reached final and he wasted i remember 23 break point 23
only converted four i rememver
he had a plenty of a chance
but he wasted it

it 's sucks that he won anly amount of slam
but he is great at 2015 season
what do you guys think ?
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He really played great on 2015. In the wimbledon final I remind he deserved the first while in the second Djokovic deserved it. Then 3rd and 4th set Djokovic became unplayable during the rallies.
US open final was a really bad final, I remember a lot of mistakes both from Fed and Djo.
Anyway it was a good year for him.
 
Either Fed was at his peak, but Djokovic, Seppi and Wawrinka were too good.

or he had a good servebotting, attacking game that easily beat the weak field but was exposed vs a true peak ATG like Djokovic where it counts (baseline and return)
 
Maybe his best season since 2008 if not for Djokovic, and possibly his highest level ever, as he himself said during Cincinnati.

During the summer he won 46 consecutive sets excluding the Slam finals against Djokovic.
 
Lew II said:
Not for me. I think it's meaningful to show that Federer destroyed anyone except one player.
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That shows that field had no depth or strength to stop a declined ATG.
It has been the case ever since 2015, and one particular player has benefitted the most from it.
 
If you check Federers stats it was one of his best years. He held serve 92% of the time and his return game win % was on the same level as any year he had. He was winning 80% of the Points on his 1st serve.

I believe Djokovic stopping him at Wimbledon and US Open might be one of Djokovics most impressive wins in his career. This Federer should have been unstoppable.
 
it was the year of one of the most puzzling and frustrating Wimbledon finals Ive watched

remember how he outplayed Murray in the Wimby semis?

now look at his performance in the final

insane
 
HetTheGreaterer said:
That shows that field had no depth or strength to stop a declined ATG.
It has been the case ever since 2015, and one particular player has benefitted the most from it.
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Federer was good because he won or the tour was weak because it lost to Federer? We'll never know. It's a circular arugment.
 
zagor said:
The best tennis he ever played in his career, as evidenced by losing to Seppi in a HC slam, getting straight setted by Stan at FO and ending year ranked behind GOATray.
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None of Seppi, Wawrinka and Murray was a factor in his supposed best years.
 
Lew II said:
Federer was good because he won or the tour was weak because it lost to Federer? We'll never know. It's a circular arugment.
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I don't know how much eye tests matter, but as a tennis junkie who has become addicted to watching old matches, I believe Federer 2004-07(Especially 2005) Is the only player that I will put anywhere near Djokovic 2011 or 15-16.

So while Federer was great in 2015, as per my opinion, it wasn't his best tennis at all and that Djokovic was way too much for him. Beating the tour doesn't matter if you can't take the title.
 
Lew II said:
None of Seppi, Wawrinka and Murray was a factor in his supposed best years.
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So you really think Murray would have been ranked higher than 2004-2007 Federer? If so, you are making the claim that peak Murray is a superior player to peak Federer.
 
Lew II said:
Federer was good because he won or the tour was weak because it lost to Federer? We'll never know. It's a circular arugment.
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We do know. He lost easily to Djokovic who he beat at Wimbledon easily 3 years before and uso 3 times back during his prime.
 
He was Novak age now. And look where Novak is now.

Now imagine where Novak will be at 38.

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I stand my case.
 
Third Serve said:
So you really think Murray would have been ranked higher than 2004-2007 Federer? If so, you are making the claim that peak Murray is a superior player to peak Federer.
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I don't know what happens in fantasy scenarios. I think the tour improved overall.
 
Lew II said:
What if Djokovic improved?
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Less likely, considering he was 25 in 2012 and 28 in 2015. All prime years for a top tennis player. He had stronger opponents in 2011-2012 than 2015.

fed went from nearly 31 to nearly 34, where the decline is more obvious. He also changed rackets which noticeably affected his game and weakened his ground game, especially off the FH side.

your theory could be correct, but it’s more likely Fed declined more.
 
Not his greatest season for sure, but it was still a pretty good one. His issue was the same as everyone barring Wawrinka at RG, they kept bumping into peak Djokovic that year.
 
Lew II said:
I don't know what happens in fantasy scenarios. I think the tour improved overall.
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But by your logic, if Murray was ranked higher than Federer's best form in 2015, then that means that he would necessarily be ranked higher than Federer's weaker forms back in 2004-2007, correct? This doesn't require much hypothetical thinking.
 
Interesting to see, of the big 3, which one will own the longest Slam winless streaks (ending in their retirements) in terms of 1) tournaments, and 2) matches? And the shortest, of course!

Sampras's streaks stand at zero! Will any of the 3 match him?
 
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