How do you handle lying on the court?

[The Viper]

I recently played a doubles league match that involved egregious hooking right from game one. We did the obligatory "are you sure?" questions to no avail. I'm not the one to retaliatory call, but you get three bs calls with me before you've struck out and I start with the body bagging. On my next service game, I fired a serve at the T and pegged the non-returner in the lower leg instead. Oops. Onlookers gasped. My partner kind of smirked and said, "nice serve, I guess" with a shrug. The gal I hit said "that hit the ground first. It's second serve." My partner scoffed, "are you kidding me?" The non-returner said "no, it's second serve." An outright lie. And the returner/partner (predictably) said she was focused on return of serve and didn't see exactly what happened. The point should have been ours, but the non-returner refused to acknowledge what happened. We didn't take the point and I just hit my second serve. In case you're wondering, the returner buried it in the net because tennis karma is real. But in all seriousness, how do you handle people who audaciously lie about obvious things like this serve issue, double bounces, net hits, etc.?

 

[brewcrew]

Had a guy on my team once with his opponent hooking him a few times in a playoff match and things got a bit heated. He then proceeded to call the opponents serve that was 10-feet out as an ace. It was a hilarious form of protest. I have never seen anyone do something like that before, but it really did seem to work.

 

[johnmccabe]

Had a guy on my team once with his opponent hooking him a few times in a playoff match and things got a bit heated. He then proceeded to call the opponents serve that was 10-feet out as an ace. It was a hilarious form of protest. I have never seen anyone do something like that before, but it really did seem to work.

So the guy just found the good conscience after a free point? He really stopped cheating after just that?

 

[kevin qmto]

Usually by trying to take their heads off. Not gonna lie.

 

[Roforot]

I recently played a doubles league match that involved egregious hooking right from game one. We did the obligatory "are you sure?" questions to no avail. I'm not the one to retaliatory call, but you get three bs calls with me before you've struck out and I start with the body bagging. On my next service game, I fired a serve at the T and pegged the non-returner in the lower leg instead. Oops. Onlookers gasped. My partner kind of smirked and said, "nice serve, I guess" with a shrug. The gal I hit said "that hit the ground first. It's second serve." My partner scoffed, "are you kidding me?" The non-returner said "no, it's second serve." An outright lie. And the returner/partner (predictably) said she was focused on return of serve and didn't see exactly what happened. The point should have been ours, but the non-returner refused to acknowledge what happened. We didn't take the point and I just hit my second serve. In case you're wondering, the returner buried it in the net because tennis karma is real. But in all seriousness, how do you handle people who audaciously lie about obvious things like this serve issue, double bounces, net hits, etc.?

hi, if it's a league match, in my region, you can get linesmen. One observer from each team? Did you try that? I believe you can only ask them to confirm a call (they won't call in or out) and things like double bounces or if they touches the ball/net are not in their purveiw.

 

[Purestriker]

I recently played a doubles league match that involved egregious hooking right from game one. We did the obligatory "are you sure?" questions to no avail. I'm not the one to retaliatory call, but you get three bs calls with me before you've struck out and I start with the body bagging. On my next service game, I fired a serve at the T and pegged the non-returner in the lower leg instead. Oops. Onlookers gasped. My partner kind of smirked and said, "nice serve, I guess" with a shrug. The gal I hit said "that hit the ground first. It's second serve." My partner scoffed, "are you kidding me?" The non-returner said "no, it's second serve." An outright lie. And the returner/partner (predictably) said she was focused on return of serve and didn't see exactly what happened. The point should have been ours, but the non-returner refused to acknowledge what happened. We didn't take the point and I just hit my second serve. In case you're wondering, the returner buried it in the net because tennis karma is real. But in all seriousness, how do you handle people who audaciously lie about obvious things like this serve issue, double bounces, net hits, etc.?

Aim for the stomach next time.

 

[tennis3]

But in all seriousness, how do you handle people who audaciously lie about obvious things like this serve issue, double bounces, net hits, etc.?

I play my opponents call and move on to the next point. Just like any other point.

 

[ollinger]

OP: What do you do for fun?

 

[GSG]

Horizontally.

 

[The Viper]

OP: What do you do for fun?

Kick puppies. Punch babies. You know, normal hobbies. And usually playing tennis is a good time. My recent opponents are definitely outliers. I've found that most people out there generally just want to have a fun and fair match.

 

[The Viper]

hi, if it's a league match, in my region, you can get linesmen. One observer from each team? Did you try that? I believe you can only ask them to confirm a call (they won't call in or out) and things like double bounces or if they touches the ball/net are not in their purveiw.

I think we can get the lines people here too. Problem is when we're away generally the only people there from our team are the people playing that day.

 

[jmnk]

I recently played a doubles league match that involved egregious hooking right from game one. We did the obligatory "are you sure?" questions to no avail. I'm not the one to retaliatory call, but you get three bs calls with me before you've struck out and I start with the body bagging. On my next service game, I fired a serve at the T and pegged the non-returner in the lower leg instead. Oops. Onlookers gasped. My partner kind of smirked and said, "nice serve, I guess" with a shrug. The gal I hit said "that hit the ground first. It's second serve." My partner scoffed, "are you kidding me?" The non-returner said "no, it's second serve." An outright lie. And the returner/partner (predictably) said she was focused on return of serve and didn't see exactly what happened. The point should have been ours, but the non-returner refused to acknowledge what happened. We didn't take the point and I just hit my second serve. In case you're wondering, the returner buried it in the net because tennis karma is real. But in all seriousness, how do you handle people who audaciously lie about obvious things like this serve issue, double bounces, net hits, etc.?

yeah, I can definitely relate. Just the other day we went through something similar:

I played a doubles league match that involved egregious hooking opponents questioning our calls right from game one. We did the obligatory "are you sure?" questions "yes, it was definitely out" to no avail. I'm not the one to retaliatory call get mad, but you get three bs calls with me before you've struck out and I start with the body bagging. obviously out calls questioned you get a bit pissed. And then on opponents my next service game, I they tried to hit my receiving partner fired a serve at the T and wanted to pegged the non-returner him in the lower leg instead. Oops. Onlookers gasped. But they missed and the ball hit the ground outside service box first before grazing my partner's leg. My partner kind of smirked and said, "nice try serve, I guess" with a shrug. The gal I hit She simply said "that hit the ground first. It's second serve." My partner scoffed, Opponents went crazy "are you kidding me?" The non-returner said we calmly repeated "no, it's second serve." An outright lie. Nothing else to add. And the returner/partner (predictably) said she I expected opponents were going to try something so I was really focused on return of serve the ball and didn't I did see exactly what happened. The point should have been ours, but the non-returner refused to acknowledge what happened. We remained calm and steady with our decision We didn't take the point and I and they just hit my second serve. In case you're wondering, the returner buried it in the net because tennis karma is real. I then hit the return of very weak second serve into the net deliberately to show them that winning the point is not really _that_ important, we are all here to try to have some fun. But in all seriousness, how do you handle people who audaciously lie question calls about obvious things like this serve issue, double bounces, net hits, etc.?

 

[travlerajm]

Depends… was this pickleball or tennis?

 

[sovertennis]

I play my opponents call and move on to the next point. Just like any other point.

ie As an adult who is playing a recreational sport with nothing important at stake would.

 

[TTMR]

I just start hitting balls over the fence to make them go scrounging for balls in the woods.

 

[ichaseballs]

not much you can do. frustrating that assholes in society get away with so much.
i'd move on and just make a mental note to never play with/against said cheater(s).
if not possible to avoid them, i would begin target practice.

 

[Jono123]

Cant say I've ever encountered it. I've seen cheaters who are well known and mocked but they are something of a rarity too,.

 

[ChaelAZ]

Used to bug me, but when I started help coach HS and working with some of the juniors at the tennis center, I actually learned myself to focus more on what I can control. I firmly believe if things are egregious you indicate it to the opponent so they are aware that you are aware. I have seen then put more pressure on them to make better calls. But then, there are just players that will always do anything to win.