How extreme can you take the 'play to the tempo of the server' rule?

thomasferrett

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If you're serving, can you play a dropshot from the baseline - forcing your opponent to run to the net. They're at the net, and within a second of the point ending, you serve for the next point giving them no time to run back to the baseline to recieve the serve. Technically, your opponent should lose the point because they failed to play to tempo of the server, no?
 
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If you're serving, can you play a dropshot from the baseline - forcing your opponent to run to the net. They're at the net, and within a second of the point ending, you serve for the next point giving them no time to run back to the baseline to recieve the serve. Technically, your opponent should lose the point because they failed to play to tempo of the server, no?

Technically not correct.
1. The server needs to wait till the returner is ready
2. If the returner is not ready, he / she can raise the hand, and the server must wait

so, say you have a NK vs Nadal match.
let's assume everyone is mad at Nadal for long breaks between points, and there is a strong guidance to umpires to stop that.
NK takes 3 balls -> makes a perfect under-arm drop-shot serve, and Nadal tried to chase the ball & is at the net.
Let's say, for the sake of example, that NK immediately serves & the point stands.

some points later NK tries to repeat.
takes 3 balls -> under-arm perfect drop-shot, Nadal chases the ball and is at the net.
If I were Nadal in this case, once the "rally is over", I would immediately raise my hand, as I am not ready to return.
Go to the position in my own tempo, and when ready let the opponent serve.
Perfectly within the rules, nothing to discuss here.
 
i would write the rule:

when the server is ready, the returner needs to be ready.

no towels between serving - only when you finish the game
 
i would write the rule:

when the server is ready, the returner needs to be ready.

no towels between serving - only when you finish the game
So you think in OP's scenario, the server should be gifted the point:

If you're serving, can you play a dropshot from the baseline - forcing your opponent to run to the net. They're at the net, and within a second of the point ending, you serve for the next point giving them no time to run back to the baseline to recieve the serve. Technically, your opponent should lose the point because they failed to play to tempo of the server, no?
 
So you think in OP's scenario, the server should be gifted the point:

If you're serving, can you play a dropshot from the baseline - forcing your opponent to run to the net. They're at the net, and within a second of the point ending, you serve for the next point giving them no time to run back to the baseline to recieve the serve. Technically, your opponent should lose the point because they failed to play to tempo of the server, no?
man people always take some extremes here which would never happen - like you just did.this is not a ****in action game lol. ok look, there should be some break - like 5-10 seconds but nothing more. i think nobody would play at such a tempo. lets say i would allow the kyrgios tempo of play when he is serving. he needed to wait 10x for nadal to be ready as a receiver.thats unfair - blame the TOWELS ****ing towels
 
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Hardly. . Refusing to make an issue out of a tissue's more like it (see: Mike Musina...i.e. guys who have tics). . If you think that Nadal (basically a decent chap) is purposely doing 'things' to screw with someone (which you do) then I can only chalk up these cynical, derisive and accusatory assumptions as symptoms associated with the Tennis-Warrehouse Talk Tennis malady commonly known as "rival of my favorite male tennis idol" syndrome....<--- pardon the clumsily-worded run-on sentence.

Boil that one-trick-topspin monkey in oil!:(
 
Hardly. . Refusing to make an issue out of a tissue's more like it (see: Mike Musina...i.e. guys who have tics). . If you think that Nadal (basically a decent chap) is purposely doing 'things' to screw with someone (which you do) then I can only chalk up these cynical, derisive and accusatory assumptions as symptoms associated with the Tennis-Warrehouse Talk Tennis malady commonly known as "rival of my favorite male tennis idol" syndrome....<--- pardon the clumsily-worded run-on sentence.

Boil that one-trick-topspin monkey in oil!:(
Meh, I could easily just assume the reverse. Anyway, convincing you otherwise seems an exercise in futility; an impasse, if you will.
 
An impasse brought on by the fact that maybe, just maybe you just don't like "those other two guys" (Djoko and the Majorican ca.pybara)? . ; )

anyway, enjoy the tennis
Well, the sentiment is a chicken and egg one, no? Capy annoyed me with his antics so I don't like him? Or... ? But you've made your own mind up on that one, haven't you ;)
 
Did OP forget returning back toweling the face, the arms and legs and then touching the nose, ears, touching the back of the trousers then bouncing the balls 6 times?

Ya, you need play to the speed of the server. Get back from the net and be ready for the next point.
 
man people always take some extremes here which would never happen - like you just did.this is not a ****in action game lol. ok look, there should be some break - like 5-10 seconds but nothing more. i think nobody would play at such a tempo. lets say i would allow the kyrgios tempo of play when he is serving. he needed to wait 10x for nadal to be ready as a receiver.thats unfair - blame the TOWELS ****ing towels
This is trump world. Extremes are passed as normal.
Did you see how kyrgios normalised underhand?
Did you see how kyrgios normalised blasting the ball at the opponent's chest by saying he can take a ball to his chest?

A few years ago that would be disgusting. Don't think for a moment some player like kyrgios would not like to try that. The rule is ambiguous at best.
 
Did OP forget returning back toweling the face, the arms and legs and then touching the nose, ears, touching the back of the trousers then bouncing the balls 6 times?

Ya, you need play to the speed of the server. Get back from the net and be ready for the next point.

Did you even read what he asked in his post?
 
Did you even read what he asked in his post?

Yes, I did. Its a stupid OP which I didnt wana reply. Just gave my thought on why it should not take more than 15 secs to get back to the baseline and be ready so that the returner does not lose the point.

Are you happy that I answered you question????
 
I definitely saw Nadal employ delay tactics on at least one occasion during the 2R match against Kyrgios. And you could see that it annoyed the hell out of Nick. It was something like Nadal getting out of his chair late after the changeover and carried two towels that he took his good time in handing over to the ballboys on opposite corners of the backcourt. Meanwhile, Nick was already at the baseline ready to serve before Nadal ever got out of his seat.
 
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