How hard is going to be for Murray to win a slam now

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Now that Murray has lost in the three slam finals he has appeared and has not even won a set in any of these matches, how difficult do you think it will be for him psychologically to get over this hurdle even if he plays in the aggressive manner everyone seems to want him to? Certainly losing to Federer and Djokovic is not bad in and of itself, but to lose in straight sets and never really be in any of these finals has to be devastating to Murray. Do you think he can overcome this?
 
Very hard.

His confidence is broken. I think he has realized that he is a midget mentally in slams finals and that is not easy to accept.

I don't know how he can overcome being a coward in finals of slam.... Maybe if he reach an easier final with another player who has never won a slam he will do better.
 
Heracles said:
Very hard.

His confidence is broken. I think he has realized that he is a midget mentally in slams finals and that is not easy to accept.

I don't know how he can overcome being a coward in finals of slam.... Maybe if he reach an easier final with another player who has never won a slam he will do better.
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I agree. I think as of now, if he meets Rafa, Fed and Novak in a final, most likely he will cave. It's sad because he keeps coming so close. If he can't handle the pressure so far from home, there is really no way he can keep it together to win Wimbly.
 
I believe the more he plays in finals, the better he'll do. So I don't think he's rattled. I can only think making it to more slam finals will prepare him in the future.
 
Sadly his window of opportunity is disappearing fast, he needs to stamp some authority on slam finals before the likes of Tomic are ready to go deep, otherwise he will just have another set of problems to overcome.
 
dlk said:
I believe the more he plays in finals, the better he'll do. So I don't think he's rattled. I can only think making it to more slam finals will prepare him in the future.
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You know, to me it seems that him being in finals and not winning, might be breaking his spirit more than bettering him. The more times he loses in a slam final, the more he will lose confidence. Even though he should consider it a real achievement to make finals in the first place.
 
Don't worry, it's all part of Murray's evil masterplan. Everyone is revelling in his failure now, but soon they will be driven to despair as he sweeps all before him, and wins Slam after Slam. Muhahahahaha.

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His fear is too great. His frame is a pt57a 16 x19 drill, strung at the ao at 55lbs, with alu power/vs team, too loose, at only 346g. Too light. He needs to bump up mass to 360g, and tens. up to 60lbs, like most other uber style hitters, ie, Tsonga, Sod, Berd., gulbis, etc. Andy, let me string and wt. your sticks, and see if you don't like the frame better!
 
We'll see how he does at the US Open. That is his best chance to win it. Not the blue clay Australian Open regardless what he says.
 
His problem is 100% mental. If he does not get over that and fix it, he will not win a slam. He needs to do something to bolster his confidence. Maybe he needs to seriously see a sports psychologist or maybe a new coach could help him with his confidence. Winning slams is 99.9% mental toughness since obviously the player that reaches the finals must have the skills to get there in the first place. The player that is mentally the strongest will prevail.
 
cc0509 said:
His problem is 100% mental. If he does not get over that and fix it, he will not win a slam. He needs to do something to bolster his confidence. Maybe he needs to seriously see a sports psychologist or maybe a new coach could help him with his confidence. Winning slams is 99.9% mental toughness since obviously the player that reaches the finals must have the skills to get there in the first place. The player that is mentally the strongest will prevail.
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Couldn't have said it better myself. It's really up to Andy Murray.
 
cc0509 said:
His problem is 100% mental. If he does not get over that and fix it, he will not win a slam. He needs to do something to bolster his confidence. Maybe he needs to seriously see a sports psychologist or maybe a new coach could help him with his confidence. Winning slams is 99.9% mental toughness since obviously the player that reaches the finals must have the skills to get there in the first place. The player that is mentally the strongest will prevail.
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If it was 100% mental he wouldn't have been outclassed in 3 straight finals. The fact of the matter is that he cannot go toe to toe with an elite level class of players when push comes to shove in the critical stages of a slam.
 
I just think he's been unlucky with his opponents so far. If he ends up in a final with a guy like, say, Baghdatis, then he'll have a much better chance.

If you can face someone who also has not won a slam, I think it's much easier because they are having trouble getting over that first slam hurdle the same as you are.

Federer faced Phillipoussis in his first major.
Nadal faced Puerta
Hewitt faced Nalbandian
Rafter got Greg Rusedski.

On the other hand Djokovic got Federer, and failed. Then when he got Tsonga he won. Failed again when he got Nadal.
Soderling got Federer and Nadal back-to-back.

Of course there are exceptions like Del Potro, and Safin too. but generally i do think it's easier when you are in a final with another slamless opponent. Look at Gaudio-Coria!
 
NamRanger said:
If it was 100% mental he wouldn't have been outclassed in 3 straight finals. The fact of the matter is that he cannot go toe to toe with an elite level class of players when push comes to shove in the critical stages of a slam.
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He beats them regularly in other settings, but goes down in straights at the end of slams. That's mental. He has a winning record vs. Fed, but can't get a set in a slam. He had beaten Nadal several times, but once it appeared the Wimbledon semi was the true final with Berdych awaiting, he went down in straights. He had beaten Djokovic three straight on hard courts, but couldn't get a set in Melbourne.

If he's playing Fed, Nadal or Djokovic earlier in a slam, with less pressure, I bet he's winning - like vs. Nadal in the AO QF.
 
Rhino said:
I just think he's been unlucky with his opponents so far. If he ends up in a final with a guy like, say, Baghdatis, then he'll have a much better chance.

If you can face someone who also has not won a slam, I think it's much easier because they are having trouble getting over that first slam hurdle the same as you are.

Federer faced Phillipoussis in his first major.
Nadal faced Puerta
Hewitt faced Nalbandian
Rafter got Greg Rusedski.

On the other hand Djokovic got Federer, and failed. Then when he got Tsonga he won. Failed again when he got Nadal.
Soderling got Federer and Nadal back-to-back.

Of course there are exceptions like Del Potro, and Safin too. but generally i do think it's easier when you are in a final with another slamless opponent. Look at Gaudio-Coria!
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I believe Hewitt faced Sampras in his first slam final.
 
Rhino said:
I just think he's been unlucky with his opponents so far. If he ends up in a final with a guy like, say, Baghdatis, then he'll have a much better chance.
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So, if he gets Dolgopolov, Ferrer AND Baghdatis at the end of a slam he might win one? :)

With that draw, 50-60 players could win a slam.
 
Antonio Puente said:
So, if he gets Dolgopolov, Ferrer AND Baghdatis at the end of a slam he might win one? :)

With that draw, 50-60 players could win a slam.
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I'm just saying, if you look at some recent AO finalists like Gonzalez, Tsonga, or Baghadatis - he might have had better shot against them because they were in the same position as him - trying for that first slam.
 
GasquetGOAT said:
I'm not sure if he would beat an in-the-zone Tsonga at a slam final though.
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With his injuries, i wonder if Tso will ever reach a slam final. Will he get through 7 matches, and some will be against high ranks since he himself will enter outside the top 10 or 15 (??)
 
Antonio Puente said:
He beats them regularly in other settings, but goes down in straights at the end of slams. That's mental. He has a winning record vs. Fed, but can't get a set in a slam. He had beaten Nadal several times, but once it appeared the Wimbledon semi was the true final with Berdych awaiting, he went down in straights. He had beaten Djokovic three straight on hard courts, but couldn't get a set in Melbourne.

If he's playing Fed, Nadal or Djokovic earlier in a slam, with less pressure, I bet he's winning - like vs. Nadal in the AO QF.
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THIS........!
 
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Rhino said:
I'm just saying, if you look at some recent AO finalists like Gonzalez, Tsonga, or Baghadatis - he might have had better shot against them because they were in the same position as him - trying for that first slam.
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I don't think so. I think the player he plays against is irrelevant. I think he has some kind of mental block once he gets into a slam final. He needs to work on that in order to win a slam (at least that is what it looks like to me.)
 
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